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Subject: Info-Hams Digest V91 #223
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Info-Hams Digest Fri, 22 Mar 91 Volume 91 : Issue 223
Today's Topics:
Easily EM shielding building windows. A new product.
Frequently Asked Questions for Amateur Radio
Fun with Balloons and long wires! (3 msgs)
Ham interference on Cable TV?
Hamtronics
Help with Tektronixs 661 scope, General Radio Co. connectors.
Hints & Kinks for taking the General code test
Indiana Balloon Flight
New Technician Frequencies
New to ham...what to buy?
phone stuff in cw bands
STS-37 FSTV
upgrade from no-code tech
Whither J. Meshna? (Western MA surplus electronics dealer)
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Date: 14 Mar 91 19:06:32 GMT
From: gatech!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!agate!usenet@ucsd.edu
Subject: Easily EM shielding building windows. A new product.
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
This was in the Usenet comp.risks group. It seems this might put a serious
damper on ham and cellular activities, no? Fortunately, I imagine that this
would probably only see use in specialized applications. I bet the military
will love this.
=========8<========8<========8<=====CUT HERE=====8<========8<========8<=========
RISKS-LIST: RISKS-FORUM Digest Wednesday 13 March 1991 Volume 11 : Issue 27
FORUM ON RISKS TO THE PUBLIC IN COMPUTERS AND RELATED SYSTEMS
ACM Committee on Computers and Public Policy, Peter G. Neumann, moderator
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 91 18:07 BST
From: "Olivier M.J. Crepin-Leblond" <UMEEB37@vaxa.cc.imperial.ac.uk>
Subject: EM solution for new buildings - risk solved?
I have read in this month's British Airways Business magazine that
Pilkington's, the UK's glass manufacturer has attempted to tackle the problem
of electromagnetic spying with a new "shielded" glass.
The glass sheets are similar to the ones usually mounted on new sky-scrapers,
with a shiny surface. However, this metallic film can be tied to earth, thus
providing shielding which stops any electromagnetic radiation from leaving the
building. It is therefore impossible to hack inside information from outside by
picking-up electromagnetic radiation. Solutions were very costly up to now,
with actual physical shielding of the building using metallic plates etc.
Olivier M.J. Crepin-Leblond, Comms.Sys., Imperial College, London, UK.
disclaimer: I am NOT related to Pilkington Glass or British Airways in any way !
------------------------------
Will Marchant Center for Extreme Ultraviolet Astrophysics
marchant@ssl.berkeley.edu University of California
KC6ROL Berkeley, CA 94720 USA
------------------------------
Date: 18 Mar 91 20:49:33 GMT
From: hpfcso!hpfcdc!perry@hplabs.hpl.hp.com
Subject: Frequently Asked Questions for Amateur Radio
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
>Don't stop at 27.990...Listen all the way up into the ham bands at least to
>28.150. The CW portion of the ten meter band is virtually unusable on the
>weekends when the band is open. I know I know.. all us old fart CW operators
>
> richard currier marine physical lab u.c. san diego
I have a militant suggestion for us CW ops that are being encroached
upon on 28.000-28.150. You see, 10m is this really funny band, with DX
fading in and out all the time. I mean, if two different QSOs are on
the same frequency, only separated by the good intentions of the DX
gods, then who is at fault when the DX gods go on coffee break ? This
happened to me during the last Field Day on 20 meters, leading to some
friction over Who Owns the Frequency.
This has also occurred on 10 meters, except the other operators are the
freeband type. Imagine my surprise to find myself calling da-di-da-dit
da-da-di-da on the same frequency as a voice user. I politely asked him
if I should move, but got no response. Tried again. No response.
Well, maybe he couldn't hear me, so Old Betsy gets warmed up and we
attempt to get their attention again, this time at 5 w..o..r..d..s
p..e..r m..i..n..u..t..e. Well, heck, after I go to all this trouble,
the guy just leaves.
Yup, the QSB makes 10 meters a really funny band.
;-)
Perry Scott
KF0CA
------------------------------
Date: 15 Mar 91 14:28:19 GMT
From: usc!apple!uokmax!skaggs@ucsd.edu
Subject: Fun with Balloons and long wires!
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <19630@brahms.udel.edu> moyer@brahms.udel.edu (Eric Moyer) writes:
>
> I'm with the University of Delaware ARA and we're thinking about putting
>a huge long wire antenna onto the end of a balloon and floating it up
>above the shack. We'll probably use good 'ol 22 gauge magnet wire, so
>the weight won't be all that great, but I haven't calculated it yet. I'd
Lots of good stuff deleted...
Eric, for field day a few years ago, our club used 500 ft. of insulated, number
20 stainless steel wire (I know, I know, but we had it, OK?) and 5 ft.
diameter when inflated advertising balloons. One shot in the morning and
a brief top-up during the heat of the day kept these in the air through
the entire field day period. Signal reports were great. Winds were
mercifully light that year, so the slope was not bad and we even had a
light on it at night. Don't limit yourself artificially. If you want
to try a long vertical (remember odd take off angles!) DO IT!
73 de Gary ..._._
>
> Eric P. Moyer /----- You are a fluke of the universe. ---------/
> moyer@brahms.udel.edu / You have no right to be here. /
> Into the night as.... / Whether you can hear it or not, /
> KA3YED on 28.460 MHz /--- The universe is laughing behind your back. -/
______________________________________________________________________________
Gary Skaggs - WB5ULK skaggs@nssl.gcn.uoknor.edu DOC/NOAA/ERL/NSSL
"Listen, I'm a politician. That means I'm a cheat and a liar, and
when I'm not kissin' babies, I'm stealin' their lollipops..."
Jeffery Pelt, The Hunt for Red October.
------------------------------
Date: 14 Mar 91 23:23:47 GMT
From: gatech!udel!brahms.udel.edu!moyer@ucsd.edu
Subject: Fun with Balloons and long wires!
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
I'm with the University of Delaware ARA and we're thinking about putting
a huge long wire antenna onto the end of a balloon and floating it up
above the shack. We'll probably use good 'ol 22 gauge magnet wire, so
the weight won't be all that great, but I haven't calculated it yet. I'd
like to try a 40 meter antenna if I can get enough lift.
The problem is this; helium is going to be an expensive option, and
will probably take many balloons. But constructing a hot air balloon
whose thrust can be conrtrolled from the base station poses many problems
including 1) how to provide the heat? Butane? How do we ignite it? Do we
just throttle back when we want to turn it down, or turn it off and reignite
it with a spark when we need lift again? 2) how should we provide control
signals for the thrust? Will the antenna emissions blow the pants out of
any radio-control circuitry we attempt to construct?
As for the antenna, I was planning to construct a winch that could be
let out to raise the balloon. I was going to run the actual antenna wire
around the winch, connected at the end to the shaft, which would in turn
be connected to the transmiter through a brush assembly. Would it be
better to add the weight of mooring the ballon with fishing line to
reduce possible antenna strain? My guess was that the strain would be
negligable.
I'd be glad to receive any comments on the above, and would be
overjoyed to hear of any past experiences with balloon antennas.
Eric P. Moyer /----- You are a fluke of the universe. ---------/
moyer@brahms.udel.edu / You have no right to be here. /
Into the night as.... / Whether you can hear it or not, /
KA3YED on 28.460 MHz /--- The universe is laughing behind your back. -/
------------------------------
Date: 14 Mar 91 15:48:31 GMT
From: deccrl!news.crl.dec.com!shlump.nac.dec.com!decuac!haven!udel!brahms.udel.edu!moyer@decwrl.dec.com
Subject: Fun with Balloons and long wires!
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
I'm with the University of Delaware ARA and we're thinking about putting
a huge long wire antenna onto the end of a balloon and floating it up
above the shack. We'll probably use good 'ol 22 gauge magnet wire, so
the weight won't be all that great, but I haven't calculated it yet. I'd
like to try a 40 meter antenna if I can get enough lift.
The problem is this; helium is going to be an expensive option, and
will probably take many balloons. But constructing a hot air balloon
whose thrust can be conrtrolled from the base station poses many problems
including 1) how to provide the heat? Butane? How do we ignite it? Do we
just throttle back when we want to turn it down, or turn it off and reignite
it with a spark when we need lift again? 2) how should we provide control
signals for the thrust? Will the antenna emissions blow the pants out of
any radio-control circuitry we attempt to construct?
As for the antenna, I was planning to construct a winch that could be
let out to raise the balloon. I was going to run the actual antenna wire
around the winch, connected at the end to the shaft, which would in turn
be connected to the transmiter through a brush assembly. Would it be
better to add the weight of mooring the ballon with fishing line to
reduce possible antenna strain? My guess was that the strain would be
negligable.
I'd be glad to receive any comments on the above, and would be
overjoyed to hear of any past experiences with balloon antennas.
Eric P. Moyer /----- You are a fluke of the universe. ---------/
moyer@brahms.udel.edu / You have no right to be here. /
Into the night as.... / Whether you can hear it or not, /
KA3YED on 28.460 MHz /--- The universe is laughing behind your back. -/
------------------------------
Date: 20 Mar 91 16:51:43 GMT
From: usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!unix.cis.pitt.edu!dsinc!netnews.upenn.edu!platypus!bill@ucsd.edu
Subject: Ham interference on Cable TV?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Because the channel experiencing interference is Cable Channel 18, which
just happens to overlap the 2 meter band, I don't think anything the cable
company is going to will relieve the problem. The system in my house is
a lot more sophisticated that the average Cable TV installation (ie. I
terminate unused ports on the in house cable system) and I cannot eliminate
interference on that channel. Luckily for me, the programming on that
channel is not one of the most popular in the area (it's not HBO :-) ).
Your best bet is to have some local hams get together with the Cable
Engineering staff when the complaints start rolling in and explain the
whole thing to them. then try and convince them that the best solution is
to abandon the use of that channel. I have never seen a place where hams
and Cable Channel 18 have been able to peacefully co-exist.
bill KB3YV
--
Bill Gunshannon | If this statement wasn't here,
bill@platypus.uofs.edu | This space would be left intentionally blank
bill@tuatara.uofs.edu | #include <std.disclaimer.h>
------------------------------
Date: 21 Mar 91 19:23:47 GMT
From: epic!karn@bellcore.bellcore.com
Subject: Hamtronics
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Hamtronics stuff is *highly* variable.
Some of their products, like the infamous FM-5 voice transceiver, are
pure junk. There's no interstage shielding whatsoever, and the PC
board is single sided; there's not even a ground plane on the
component side. I long ago gave up trying to tune the transmitter
(with a spectrum analyzer) so it wouldn't shower the band with
parasitics. The receiver works, but it's not exceptional. And given
that crystal-controlled transceivers were last state of the art in
1975, there's not much point in buying one now, especially not at
the price they're asking.
Their newer converters, on the other hand, are much better. I have
built their 70cm transmitting and receiving converters and they work
well. They seemed to have learned their lesson about interstage
shielding - each stage of the 70cm transmitting converter is shielded,
the PC board has a ground plane, and the design uses newer components
like the SBL-1 double balanced mixer. The receiving converter is
pretty good too, as long as you get the newer model that also uses the
SBL-1.
In short, examine the unit's design closely before you buy. And avoid
the FM-5 like the plague, no matter how cheap it is.
Phil
------------------------------
Date: 21 Mar 91 05:26:27 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!ub!kitty!larry@ucsd.edu
Subject: Help with Tektronixs 661 scope, General Radio Co. connectors.
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <1991Mar20.064855.2635@lynx.CS.ORST.EDU> youngqd@jacobs.cs.orst.edu (Dean Youngquist) writes:
>I have acquired a Tektronics Type 661 oscilloscope but have no probes
>for it. It doesn't use the standard BNC for probes but instead has
>something called a General Radio Universal Connector.
>...
> Does anyone have an address for General Radio Co., now called GenRad?
> Any source of these connectors would be helpful. I would also like
> to buy a manual for the Tek 661 scope if anyone has one.
GenRad is located in Concord, MA.
However, you may find that the cost of purchasing connectors from
GenRad may exceed the value of your sampling oscilloscope, which is an
oldie. I would suggest that you forget about GenRad and simply canvas
some electronic surplus dealers to find cables or connectors.
I should also point out that one can rather effectively (and without
damage) insert a standard bananna plug in the center of the GenRad connector.
This may leave something to be desired when used with fast risetime signals,
though. :-)
Larry Lippman @ Recognition Research Corp. "Have you hugged your cat today?"
VOICE: 716/688-1231 {boulder, rutgers, watmath}!ub!kitty!larry
FAX: 716/741-9635 [note: ub=acsu.buffalo.edu] uunet!/ \aerion!larry
------------------------------
Date: 20 Mar 91 14:58:50 GMT
From: swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!unix.cis.pitt.edu!dsinc!wells!k3tx@ucsd.edu
Subject: Hints & Kinks for taking the General code test
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <1370@gargoyle.uchicago.edu>, hayward@gargoyle.uchicago.edu (Peter Hayward) writes:
> :
>
> The ARRL VEC has announced that it will be going to multiple choice
> over the next few months.
> --
> Peter B. Hayward University of Maine WX9T
101 I'm generally a staunch supporter of ARRL
102 But in their handling of the VE program I find
them sadly lacking
103 The latest nonsense of trying to "take over"
W5YI is one instance;
104 The fact that their code tests have been compromised
right from the start;
105 The "shift" to multiple choice - which I'd heard rumored]
but haven't seen confirmed yet.
106 I've been holding to W5YI for testing; have run about
80 sessions myself;
107. Have shifted to true=false for code tests.
108. They're rough - but fair.
109 Those who can copy should get 100%.
110 Those who guess will not pass.
111 Our scoring is: 10 pts per correct, 0 for blank, -10 for wrong.
112 For example, how many tests actually require copying the
puncutuation and other garbage that MUST be sent?
113 Ours DO
114 Or SHOULR D the tests be giveaways?
115 The written tests are nearly giveaways
116. The question pools aren't hard to memorize.
117 E.g., a licensee (reportedly now EXTRA) who hasn't the faintest
idea what an OHMMETER is.
K3TX
Who passed in front of an unsmiling but FAIR FCC examiner.
------------------------------
Date: 21 Mar 91 15:51:51 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!maverick.ksu.ksu.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!csrd.uiuc.edu!s30.csrd.uiuc.edu!look@ucsd.edu
Subject: Indiana Balloon Flight
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
With weather permitting, on March 23, the Aerospace Technology class of
Franklin High School along with Chuck Crist WB9IHS, Robert McAuliffe W9PRD,
and Bill Brown WB8ELK will launch a 5 foot helium balloon. The package will
consist of an ATV transmitter with 1 watt on 439.25 Mhz, a 2m FM beacon with
750mw on 144.340 Mhz, and a 10m CW beacon with 100mw on 28.321 Mhz. The
ATV transmitter will be fed by a video camera pointing down at the Earth and
will also have a color ID with the call WB9IHS. The two meter transmitter will
carry the call W9PRD. These two signals are expected to be received in a radius
of about 400 miles when the balloon reaches 100,000 ft. The 10m transmitter
may be heard over much of North America. A net will be run by Emmett K9YKX on
3871 Khz or 7232Khz as an alternate depending on band conditions. A rain date
of April 6 is planned. This balloon package complies with all Part 101 of FAA
regulations. The launch will take place in Franklin, Indiana.
--
Steve Look ka9szw Center for Supercomputing R & D
look@s30.csrd.uiuc.edu 305 Talbot Lab 104 S. Wright
(217) 244-5980 Urbana, IL 61801
"No, we don't have any CRAYs here, they are down the street..."
------------------------------
Date: 20 Mar 91 08:29:40 GMT
From: usc!sdd.hp.com!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!caen!news.cs.indiana.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!phil@ucsd.edu
Subject: New Technician Frequencies
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
sdkuo@argo.acs.oakland.edu (Steve Kuo) writes:
>I plan to get my Technician class license soon by studying the old questions
>that I have (01nov89). The contents is pretty much the same from what
>I've heard, but I think the frequencies have changed. Here is the amateur
>band that I have effective 01-Nov-89. If someone could please send me
>the changes in band(s) I would much appriciate it.
>3700-3750 kHz/CW
3675-3725 as of 16-Mar-91
>7100-7150 kHz/CW
>21.1-21.2 MHz/CW
>28.1-28.5 MHz/CW
>28.3-28.5 MHz/Telephony
28.1-28.3 MHz/digital
>50.0-54.0 MHz/CW
>50.1-54.0 MHz/Telephony
50.1-54.0 allows a lot of modes
>144.0-148.0 MHz/CW
>144.1-148.0 MHz/All
>220.0-225.0 MHz/All (that has changed I think?)
Soon, soon.
>420.0-450.0 MHz/All (this can't be right?)
Right! However much of Michigan cannot use the 420-430 portion.
>902.0-928.0 MHz/All
>1240.0-1300.0 MHz/All
2300-2310
2390-2450
3300-3500
5650-5925
10.000-10.500 GHz
24.000-24.250
47.000-47.200
75.500-81.000
119.980-120.020
142-149
241-250
300-inf
--
/***************************************************************************\
< Phil Howard -- KA9WGN -- phil@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu >
\***************************************************************************/
------------------------------
Date: 15 Mar 91 15:13:00 GMT
From: swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!csn!boulder!bohemia!f510.n5000.z200.METRONET.ORG!Gary.Box@ucsd.edu
Subject: New to ham...what to buy?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Whoh! One thing at a time. First, the tabletop recievers by Icom
Kenwood and others are excellent for receiving all modes. You could
always sell it to by a transciever when you get a license. To decode
modes such as packet, ritty, amtor etc. you need an all mode TNC and
a computer. For an antenna for receiving, a long wire (100ft or
more) is more than adequate. I encourage you to find Amateur Radio
Classes in your area, or pick up "Tune In the World With Amateur
Radio" from the ARRL. The novice license, or new no-code tech
license are easy to get with a little sstud. Then you can skip
buying the receiver and get a newer Transciever such as a Kenwood
440 which can also recieve between the Ham Bands.
You'll find it a lot of fun.
Gary N0JCG
---
* Origin: The Computer Lab (200:5000/510)
--
=============================================================================
Gary Box - via MetroNet node 200:5000/301
The Bohemia BBS System, Boulder Colorado (303)449-8946
UUCP: Gary.Box@f510.n5000.z200.METRONET.ORG
or : ...!boulder!bohemia.METRONET.ORG!510!Gary.Box
=============================================================================
------------------------------
Date: 19 Mar 91 20:44:28 GMT
From: swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!asuvax!ukma!aunro!aupair.cs.athabascau.ca!rwa@ucsd.edu
Subject: phone stuff in cw bands
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
oo7@ut-emx.uucp (Derek Wills) writes:
>Tonight and last night, I have been hearing what sound like Canadian
>hams prattling away on USB at 3505 KHz, right where most of the 80m
This is certainly A Bad Thing.
> [...]
>I admit that I didn't wait around to hear the calls (none given during
>the few minutes I listened), the accents were VE-ish. I haven't come
>across anything similar on any of the other HF bands - yet.
Now, now, you *know* that we VEs don't have accents; it's the Ws and
Ks and Gs and VKs and ZLs that have accents :-) [apologies to those I
have failed to offend :-)].
All I can offer is that, lately, conditions on 80 have been
exceptionally good and perhaps they didn't (these alleged VEs) realize
how well they were getting out. Have you copied the Asian trawler
operators chattering away on 3550 USB? Now *they're* loud, and they
never ID.
And BTW, did I ever tell you about the Ws and Ks stomping on our
nightly traffic net @ 3740 (Alberta Public Safety Net)? CW signals
that would sometimes knock your rig off the desk :-).
I will monitor for these fellows. Happy DX.
--
--
Ross Alexander rwa@cs.athabascau.ca (403) 675 6311 ve6pdq
"Go on! Shoot me again! I enjoy it! I love the smell of burnt feathers
and gunpowder and cordite!" -- Daffy Duck, "Duck! Rabbit! Duck!"
------------------------------
Date: 22 Mar 91 01:09:05 GMT
From: swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!lavaca.uh.edu!menudo.uh.edu!nuchat!buster!garym@ucsd.edu
Subject: STS-37 FSTV
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
pgc@csadfa.cs.adfa.oz.au (Phil Clark) writes:
>I have not been able to find the frequency (ies) that are going to be used
>for fast-scan TV on the upcoming STS-37 mission in early April.
>(I do have the list for the voice, SSTV and packet frequencies.)
The fast-scan TV experiment is uplink only, they will not be transmitting
FSTV from the shuttle, only receiving.
>If there is someone out there who knows the TV frequencies, could you please
>email them to me.
Only the stations that are scheduled to uplink video are being given the
uplink frequency.
Uplinking video to the shuttle takes a significant signal. Most (all?)
ground stations participating in the experiment are using 400 watt
amplifiers provided by the Motorola Amateur Radio Club, plus about 15-18db
antenna gain. It is expected that about 15kw ERP is required on the 430 Mhz
band. Ground stations also need special authorization from the FCC since a
FSTV signal is wider than the currently allocated satellite band.
--GaryM N5QWC
------------------------------
Date: 19 Mar 91 14:50:09 GMT
From: swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!att!emory!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary@ucsd.edu
Subject: upgrade from no-code tech
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <2640@cruzio.UUCP> brettb@cruzio.UUCP (Brett Breitweiser) writes:
>
>Just passed "no-code" tech and want to go back next month to upgrade.
>Query is: should I learn code at 5wpm (I know the dit-dah combos but
>need to develop "my ear") or should I just go straight to 13 wpm and
>the general test? Seems like I could and should just develop my ear at
>13 wpm, know I could pass the written test easily. Does anyone have
>experience with this? Seems like 5wpm then 13 wpm track might be
>duplicate effort. Please e-mail your advice. Thanks!
Yes, yes, yes! Learn the code elements at the speed you intend to
operate. Otherwise you will have to learn all over again and it's
harder when you have to forget the first sounds. At least for me.
I learned the code at 5wpm in order to get a license (Novice). It
took me about 6 weeks. I then spent a very tough year relearning
code at 13 wpm for the general. I have no intention of wasting
5 years to learn 20 wpm. Now code has always been a struggle for
me and your experiences may be different, but I believe that learning
the code first at a speed low enough to separate the individual dots
and dashes in your mind is a bad mistake. I have friends who started
at 20 wpm and were ready in the same 6 weeks it took me to master
5 wpm.
Gary KE4ZV
------------------------------
Date: 20 Mar 91 04:55:06 GMT
From: w1gsl@athena.mit.edu
Subject: Whither J. Meshna? (Western MA surplus electronics dealer)
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <1991Mar19.040529.2481@fs7.ece.cmu.edu> apaeth@taurus.ece.cmu.edu (Alan Paeth) writes:
>Can anyone tell me what became of this place? (John Meshna, Lynn MA)
>
>Better yet, anyone know where all that great surplus might now be stashed?
>(Power supplies, crts, computer part overruns, optics, etc.) By "great" let's
>say "periodically publishes a large, well-stocked catalog" -- like H&R does.
>
> /Alan "once lived just a block from C&H in Pasadena, why did I leave?" Paeth
> VE3AWP
J. Meshna has gone to the great reward in the sky... :-( 3 or 4 years ago.
His son ran the place for a couple of years, and finally sucommed to the
Real Estate frenzy of about a year and a half ago and sold the property
to the Coke Bottling plant next door. I think he got out just after the
peak.
I am not sure what happend to the inventory, I didn't see an auction
even though I try to follow such things.
A small correction Meshna was in eastern MA almost on the Atlantic
in Lynn MA. About 5 miles north of Boston. Just off rt 129 = Western Ave.
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