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- Editor Note;
- This overview of ACE '92 was so nice as it came in, including the cover
- note I decided to leave it there for all to enjoy.
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- by Bill Devonshire
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- Dear Ralph:
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- I wanted to write to you some impressions of ACE 92, but have been
- extremely busy. Although almost a week has past I still feel the desire
- to comment on this latest Atari Exposition. I have never had the
- opportunity to attend any Atari functions of any size shape or diameter,
- and it is a real thrill to actually see, touch and test the products I
- have salivated over in Atari magazines for so many years. Instead of just
- looking and imagining what lies behind that packaging, you could get your
- hands on it, and actually converse with the authors or manufacturers of
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- This is unique, having attended many IBM based conferences, shows and
- exhibitions, in that most of the authors of the products were actually at
- the show. The depth of conversation was excellent and spanned well beyond
- the superficial salesperson/customer interface. I enjoyed the show very
- much because of this one fact, but found that time flew much too quickly
- and left me wanting more.
-
- ACE 92 overwhelmed me with the untouched potential of the ST/TT
- computers. There were some very impressive hardware and software products
- that easily rival and out shine similar products on other platforms. Why
- the DOS platform ever attracted so many people to it is beyond me!! They
- must have used mirrors and smoke to do it. It's like a big snowball
- (Canadian analogy) rolling down a hill, collecting more and more people as
- it goes. However, at ACE it brought one thought to mind, "You can fool
- some of the people some of the time, some all the time but never all the
- people all the time". By the looks and sounds of it Atari supporters are
- mostly in that later category.
-
- It was interesting to see the type of people who attended ACE. There
- was a common thread of appearance and interest. It would seem that Atari
- computers appeal to the more avante garde members of society. Almost a
- "jazz" orientation in the world of Computers. How many people like Pop
- music and how many like Jazz. For the most part, a Jazz musician will not
- expect to make the same millions that their counter parts in Pop will.
- They are more concerned with the highly technical side of their
- profession, and strive to do more than the ordinary. Jazz-Atari! Knowing
- that the ST is a prime "Music" oriented computer this realization is not
- so astonishing, however there would appear to be a common thread of
- artistry and the search for the unique and obscure in the Atari
- supporter.
-
- I am so glad to see Atari out in force, supporting their machines and
- tantalizing us with the future. Before I get into this topic I would like
- to comment on a few things about the dealers and products that really
- caught my attention. This is not in order of importance or likes or
- dislikes but rather my routing through all the literature and brochures I
- picked up and taking it as it comes:
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-
- Gadgets: the SST
- -----------------
- What a dynamite product! but unfortunately too expensive for me.
- Watching the SST animate screen images into a blur was exciting. I am an
- ST/e owner and can only oooh and aaaaah at the SST. Not only is it too
- big for my pocket book but its also too big for my machine, and I'd have
- to either find a new home for my ST or find a new home for the SST (a
- Mega). For those who have the cash and the machine to accommodate it I
- have one thing to say "I'm envious".
-
-
- Gemulator: the Atari ST emulator for MS-DOS and Windows
- --------------------------------------------------------
- The Gemulator is a neat idea but will never find its full potential
- under the guidance of Darek. I had great anticipation when I went to see
- this "gem" and looked forward to chatting with Darek about his latest
- idea. It might have been that way if Darek hadn't of been so defensive
- and argumentative. It was apparent that he has had a rough time in the
- Atari community, and may have faced a deluge before I stumbled (literally)
- into his booth. He was running the Gemulator on a 486. Neat idea but who
- wants to spend $500.00 bucks to put something you already have into
- another machine? Well, when you "upgrade" to a PC you won't have to loose
- your present software investment? Sounds good, but, even if I did buy a
- PC I'd still have my ST (or is someone offering trade in's to "upgrade").
- If I did buy a PC, wouldn't that $500.00 go a long way outfitting my new
- machine with software? The Gemulator does not support any of the hardware
- potential of the PC, no VDI drivers to use Super VGA or whatever else may
- come along. If developed a little more (but I doubt if it will) it may
- attract my attention, until then, nice try.
-
-
- Hyperlink - excellent product. Very well presented!
- ----------------------------------------------------
- Every known size and shape of ST was represented in this booth,
- displaying the prowess of Hyperlink. Especially on the TT hires it was
- exceptional. I can think of several applications for HL that will spin a
- few PC contemptible heads. Nice work, very flexible and easy to use.
- (even Linda liked it!)
-
-
- Lynx - better than I thought it would be.
- ----------------------------------------
- I had never tried one, but next to the display of Lexicor's 24 bit
- color board was an active Lynx setup. After pulverizing my racing car
- several times, I put it back down and headed out to look at more goodies.
- As far as hand-held video games go, I liked it. Crazy Dots - really nice
- product, but it brought up the same feelings as the SST, too expensive and
- won't work on my STe. OH well. Its nice to see this card out, and if I
- had a Mega I'd be real happy, but my pockets are too deep to reach the
- coin levels required to make this a reality. For those that have one -
- "enjoy".
-
-
- Neo Desk 3.0 - far exceeded my expectations
- -------------------------------------------
- This is a great software package. I had to see it to believe it.
- Anyone with a hard drive shouldn't be without it. Neodesk helps bypass
- all the inflexibilities of standard desktop operations and makes the
- Computer an easy to use tool. It really does make applications no more
- than a click away. For the non-technically inclined, a definite shoe-in.
- PC's and MAC's eat your heart out on this one.
-
-
- Cyrel Sunrise - the M16-1280 has been rumored for some time now
- ---------------------------------------------------------------
- I have called and talked to the developers several times throughout
- the year to see how things are going. At first I thought "How can these
- guys develope this extremely powerful and expensive product for the ST
- line?" What market do they have? The fact that Atari equipped their
- latest machines with VME is very significant. The VME bus is "big", and
- presently supports a very large market (and a market that is quickly
- expanding). Their system was breath-taking. It rivals anything I have
- seen yet on any platform, even the Video toaster (it makes the VT look
- like a bun warmer). Fast, crisp, clean and clear are the words that come
- to mind describing the video output of this "Cube". It's expensive but
- for its intended market and class, quite low priced. Actually lower cost
- than the Video Toaster.
-
-
- GramSlam - helps with having 5 school aged kids
- -----------------------------------------------
- Linda and I are kept pacing back and forth between schools trying to
- maintain some stability for our kids in this presently crumbling
- educational system. More and more we are looking towards new ways to
- approach the education of our kids, including home schooling. GramSlam
- and its cohort Grammar Expert meet all our criteria for "Educational"
- software. In a society where spelling and grammar are taking a beating..
- thank you Phil Comeau Software for a step in the right direction.
-
-
- ADspeed - I love this accelerator
- ---------------------------------
- Not only does it fit my pocket book, it also fits in my STe, and for
- $32 lets me math coprocessor myself to oblivion. This is a nice product,
- developed more for the affordable ST crowd. The acceleration is obvious
- on screen, easy to install, easy to use, speed switchable and
- (reportedly) 100% compatible. Nice product! With Math copro it comes in
- at about $325 Canadian.
-
-
- D.A. Brumleve - Good Stuff!
- ---------------------------
- Everything we said about GramSlam above goes double for these
- products. Friendly and informative presentation of a very solid product
- line impressed Linda and I. Multi-Play, KidPainter, KidPublisher Pro (and
- Dot to Dot) are very well designed educational games, that really do
- interest our kids. Even the smallest in our troop (Willy and Katie - 2 and
- 3) will sit and play with the ST for hours. (on rainy days of course).
- Thank you for your unique software.
-
-
- Tiny Turbo - can't say enough good things about this one
- --------------------------------------------------------
- Excellent hardware product! The price is still too high for me but if
- I squeeze hard enough and earn my allowance, I just might be able to get
- one, and YES it will fit inside my STe. Please keep the price down!! (I
- know, I know it cost lots to develop). Well at least it is within the
- edge of my reach. Set your ST on fire with this one.
-
-
- Well, that's just a few of the goodies. The large TT monitors are
- nice. 19" does make a difference. I had never set eyes on a TT before
- until this show, I hope they become a little more popular. Its a very
- solid machine, and mostly downward compatible with lots of flexibility for
- upgrading. The TT will probably make its big hit in the Music area and
- then turn DTP on its head. I would like to get one but (that's right) its
- too pricey yet. Compared to a MAC its cheap, but to a 386DX - expensive.
- When it drops down (will it?) I'll get one. The rumored machines may
- divert me, but then I like the VME port concept.
-
- If I learned anything at all from ACE, it was that it is imperative to
- get out to these shows and get hands on with the various products. I hope
- it was financially successful enough to warrant another show real soon.
- If you are close enough to attend one, please do. Thanks alot to TAF for
- all the organization (and I'll be signing up very soon). The new version
- of Flash is great. Missionware seems to have taken their name seriously
- and they have produced a very satisfying upgrade to old Flash 1.6. I
- didn't get a chance to test Warp 9 (and forgot my disk for upgrade) but
- I'll be sending out for the upgrade. One last thing: with all the talk
- about how the ST line is failing, don't believe it. Life is change,
- nothing stays the same, and so it is with the ST. Version 1.0 becomes
- version 2.0. 512 colors becomes 4096, 320x200 becomes 640x480x256. Tos
- 1.0 becomes Tos 3.0. Get what you need, use what you have to its fullest,
- and if you can afford what you need then get it. You should have seen the
- screens on that 24 bit color Leonardo board from Lexicor, Lee Seiler put
- together some true color graphics that would curl your hair,.... Loved
- it!!
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- by Michael Lee
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- ----------------
-
- From Rich Tietjens at The Conqueror Connection - From the STReport
- FNet Conference...
-
- I received my Mega 2 STe on Friday, 3 April, 1992, and wanted to try
- to find the relative speeds of the various possible configurations.
- Using NBM (NBM - The Ness Benchmark, v1.2, by J. Ness), I ran a series
- of tests to determine how the Mega STe stands up to the "old Atari ST
- line. Here are my findings:
-
- Test Name Test Number
- Math Routines 1
- Memory fetch/store 2
- Dialog box draw 3
- Floppy read/write 4
- Other Drive read/write 6
- Graphics 7
-
- Config 1: 16Mhz, cache on, Blitter on, QSTe 3 on
- Config 2: 16Mhz, cache on, Blitter off, QSTe 3 on
- Config 3: 16Mhz, cache on, Blitter on, QSTe 3 off
- Config 4: 16Mhz, cache off, Blitter off, QSTe 3 off
-
- Test Config 1 Config 2 Config 3 Config 4
- 1 9.03 182% 9.05 181% 9.11 180% 14.75 111%
- 2 10.44 154% 10.43 154% 10.47 154% 14.47 111%
- 3 10.46 462% 9.71 497% 19.23 251% 31.45 153%
- 4 44.41 162% no significant variation in any configuration
- 5 16.28 92% no significant variation in any configuration
- 6 28.75 278% 27.44 292% 59.57 134% 13.53 70%
-
- Config 5: 16Mhz, cache off, Blitter on, QSTe 3 off
- Config 6: 16Mhz, cache on, Blitter on, Turbo ST 1.6 on
- Config 7: 16Mhz, cache on, Blitter off, Turbo ST 1.6 on
- Config 8: 16Mhz, cache on, Blitter on, QSTe 3 on, Turbo ST 1.6 on
-
- Test Config 5 Config 6 Config 7 Config 8
- 1 9.03 182% 8.99 183% 9.00 183% 9.02 182%
- 2 10.44 154% 10.42 154% 10.42 154% 10.44 154%
- 3 10.46 462% 12.67 381% 12.92 374% 11.59 417%
- 4 44.41 162% 67.36 107% 67.54 107% 67.56 107%
- 5 16.28 92% 18.12 82% 18.08 82% 18.33 81%
- 6 28.75 278% 58.58 136% 64.53 124% 28.88 277%
-
- All results are in seconds, with a percentage of the speed of a plain-
- vanilla 520ST, 8Mhz, machine as the baseline.
-
- Conclusions:
-
- 1. The Mega STe is capable of speed ranging from about 130% to 250 of
- the ST, depending on the operation, without any extra software. Re-
- asonable expectation would be an average of 150% in normal operation.
-
- 2. Running Quick STe 3.04 with the Blitter increases performance
- dramatically, and in the artifical environment of the benchmark
- program, Quick ST is actually a little faster with the Blitter turn
- off. Subjective performance is unaffected by the Blitter, however,
- because Quick ST is so much faster than the built-in routines that the
- Blitter is not noticed, regardless if it is on or off.
-
- 3. Turbo ST affects only Dialog Box Draw. It is not effective in
- combination with Quick STe, and in fact seems to slow graphics some-
- what, as compared to what QSTe can do alone.
-
- In addition to the above tests, I have tried some software for com-
- patability. Most of the normal programs (not copy-protected) run as
- usual; a few act inconsistently, and some will not fully function, if
- they work at all, on the Mega STe.
-
- Examples:
-
- All of my shareware games work as expected (although quite a bit
- faster than before).
-
- MegaTraveller 1 ran from Hard Disk once; afterward, I was forced to
- set up a boot floppy in order to get into the program. However, the
- 1.44 meg floppy makes that less onerous than it seems, since both of
- the DSDD disks that come with MT1 will fit on the single 1.44 ;-) !
- Also, today it ran from the HD again, so apparently it was a software
- conflict with a DA or AUTO folder program.
-
- Days of Thunder would run the soundtrack, but the screen became a
- green "snow" pattern, and the game would go no further.
-
- R-Type will run, but your ship and all objects on the screen except
- stars and shots are invisible.
-
- Overall, I am extremely pleased with the Mega 2 STe. It is attractive
- to the eye, and provides an excellent value for the cost. Performance
- is improved over my old 520ST, and far superior to the Zenith AT clone
- I am forced to use at the office.
-
- Rich Tietjens
- "Captain Blade"
-
- ----------------
-
- From A.BITTON1 - Cat. 9, Topic 28, Msg. 104 - from the ST Roundtable on
- Genie...
-
- ...I got a list of upcoming ST Releases from Paul Moodie, marketing
- director at Microprose UK, and it lists 2 Spectrum Holobyte titles:
-
- SuperTetris (April '92)
- Crisis In The Kremlin (May '92).
-
- I read in several mags that Specrum had signed with Microprose UK
- after the demise of Mirrorsoft. This clinches it.
-
- ----------------
-
- Comments about the Princeton Ultra 1400 monitor - Cat. 4, Topic 34, Msgs
- 77, 83-84 - from the ST Roundtable on Genie...
-
- From Rob Glover...
-
- I got the latest Damark catalog yesterday, and saw the Princeton Ultra
- 1400 monitor advertised for $389. According to Damark Technical Dept.,
- the freq. range is 15-36.5KHz, and the refresh rate is 45-120Hz, which
- is suited to the ST.
-
- I seem to remember someone else talking about this monitor a while
- back, so I hope I haven't repeated anything.
-
- Also, they didn't know if the monitor has setting memory, so you don't
- have to keep fooling with the adjustments when you change resolutions.
- If it doesn't, I guess it would best compare to the Acer monitor. Does
- anyone know how well it compares to the Acer?
-
-
- Answer from Mike Drysdale (Team Computers)...
-
- The Princeton is excellent. And the Damark price is below dealer cost.
- (How the **** can they DO that!) :-(
-
-
- Comments from Joe Ceklosky...
-
- I am also interested in the Princeton Ultra 1400 monitor. I know that
- it will work on the ST, but have also been trying to get input on it.
-
- That is a great price on the monitor!!! I saw it for $475 in Computer
- Shopper.
-
- ----------------
-
- From VANDENHEUVEL - Cat. 9, Topic 47, Msg. 106 - from the ST Roundtable
- on Genie...
-
- Bad news all. The news from OCEAN is that EPIC has been put back
- several weeks. It won't be out for about a month. This is the line I
- got from my distributor, who in turn got it from his sales rep at
- OCEAN. Oh well, we've waited this long...maybe they're making it even
- better.
-
- ----------------
-
- Comments about LEGEND from John Hoffman - Cat. 9, Topic 26, Msg. 1 -
- from the ST Roundtable on Genie...
-
- Legend is a new fantasy role playing game. The game system is
- generally 3D isometric. The game is played by manipulating four
- charaters through various dungeons. Dungeons are located in various
- Cities, Keeps, and Castles. Evil minions are constantly attacking
- cities, friendly troups, or characters as they travel cross country.
-
- Legend features real-time animated monsters, unique magic system, and
- dungeon master type puzzles. This is an excellent game.
-
- ----------------
-
- From Alan Hamilton (Starfall Software) - Cat. 4, Topic 4, Msg. 99 - from
- the ST Roundtable on Genie...
-
- I just installed a board from JRI that uses 1meg SIMMS. The SIMMS can
- be had for about $40 each (check your local computer dealers, or look
- through COMPUTER SHOPPER -- either 8 bit (Macintosh) or 9 bit (IBM)
- will work).
-
- The board itself was $120 from JRI, plus $12 shipping, COD, and 2nd
- day delivery charges.
-
- Use of the board avoids the need for chip stacking and other tricky
- stuff. You can't just remove the 256k chips and put in 1meg chips. The
- 1meg chips have extra address lines that must be connected. Further-
- more, I shudder at the thought of unsoldering 16 (512k) or 32 (1meg)
- 256k chips. At 16 pins each, that's 256 or 512 connections.
-
- The installation requires clipping a few resistors (to disable the
- motherboard memory), unless you are going to 2.5meg rather than 4 meg.
- In that case, the 512k becomes the .5meg. The instruction sheet notes
- that on a few 520STs (motherboard Revisions 2, 2A, A, B, and C) two
- traces must be cut for a 4meg installation, since those models don't
- have the resistors.
-
- The other connections are: seven wires soldered to various points on
- the motherboard, power and ground connections, a cable plugged into
- the video shifter socket, and a header piggybacked onto one of the
- motherboard RAM chips. If you have clipped any resistors or traces,
- one side of them has to be connnected to +5v to deativate the old RAM.
-
- The memory options for a 520ST are 2meg, 2.5meg, or 4meg. The 2meg
- option is pointless, since that's just the 2.5meg with the motherboard
- RAM disabled.
-
- The 2.5meg option uses 2 1meg SIMMs, and the 512k on the motherboard.
- The 4meg uses 4 1meg SIMMs, and the motherboard RAM is disabled.
-
- I installed the 4meg option into my 1040STf, and it's worked great. No
- bombs or problems at all. On the 1040STf, at least, the board will fit
- underneath the RF shield.
-
- BTW, it's normal for programs to take much longer to load with more
- memory. Download Charles F. Johnson's PINHEAD to fix this (see CAT 32,
- TOP 17).
-
- The only real advantage of chip stacking over using the daughterboard
- is saving the $137 it cost me to get the board. OTOH, the chip
- stacking involves *much* more soldering. If you're comfortable doing
- this, find. I myself am not.
-
- There are also solderless boards, but I've heard bad things about
- them. They all have to use some sort of wonky method to disrupt the
- MMU connections, since you aren't clipping any resistors. I've heard
- lots of stories about bad connections from these schemes.
-
- ----------------
-
- About DBman from Jeff Wisniewsk - Cat. 6, Topic 16, Msg. 69 - from the
- ST Roundtable on Genie...
-
- NOTE to all users who have upgraded to the latest version of DBman, I
- was talking to them today and they said that they have found some
- major bugs and are recalling all upgrades that they have sent out.
- They also said that the fixed version will ship at the end of the
- month.
-
- ----------------
-
- Looking for a good, quiet and inexpensive fan for your hard drive? WALLY
- has some help for you - Cat. 4, Topic 39, Msg. 61 - from the ST Round-
- table on Genie...
-
- ...I've got this little RS (RatShak) fan (Cat. No. 273-243b) hooked up
- to my 1040STe, and it does a nice job (quietly) at 6vdc.
-
- It is rated at 12vdc, .16A, 1.9W (but I run it at 6 volts). Even at 12
- volts it was a bit more quiet than the Hurricane-fan in my HD. <G>
-
- I paid $18.00 for this fan (and that is the Sitka, Alaska, price).
-
- Also, it is the _standard_ (?) 3 1/8" square.
-
- ----------------
-
- From Paul Wu (Omnimon Peripherials) - Cat. 4, Topic 12, Msg. 20 - from
- the ST Roundtable on Genie...
-
- **** ATTENTION *****
-
- If you are using GENWAVE with the DEKA, you may find that the hardware
- key does not work. Don't panic! there is a very easy fix and it is
- very similar to the resister fix we had posted here some messages
- back. Just connect the same type of resisters to pin number 11, 13,
- 15, and 17 of IC2 to pin 20 (VCC). This should also work with any
- hardware key device that hooks up to the joystick port.
-
- Again, if you feel uncomfortable doing the mods yourself, you can
- always send it back to us and we'll do it for you free of charge.
- However, please call first to get an RMA#.
-
- Our phone number again is (714) 753-9253 and our new business hours
- are M/W/F 10:00am-4:00pm Tues/Thu 10:00am-3:00pm
-
- ----------------
-
- From D.FINCH7 - Cat. 11, Topic 14, Msg. 12 - from the ST Roundtable on
- Genie...
-
- ATARI USERS ANNOUNCE UPCOMING SHOW
-
- Local Atari computer user groups are joining forces to stage a two-day
- computer show later this year in Hartford, Conn. An umbrella
- organization representing Atari users in Fairfield County and the
- Danbury and New Haven regions has announced dates and site for
- Connecticut AtariFest '92. The event is scheduled for August 15 and
- 16, 1992 at the Sheraton Hotel at Bradley International Airport,
- Windsor Locks, Conn.
-
- The show is being sponsored by the ACT Group [Affiliated Connecticut
- (CT) Groups], an umbrella organization comprised of these Atari user
- groups:
-
- F.A.C.E. (Fairfield County)
- S.T.A.R.R. (New Haven area)
- D-BUG (Danbury area)
-
- To date, the following exhibitors have agreed to participate in
- Connecticut AtariFest '92: Atari Computer Corporation, Atari Explorer
- magazine, the Boston Computer Society, GEnie, Gribnif Software, GFA
- Basic, Joppa Computer Products, Sam Ash Music Inc., Step Ahead
- Software, Soft-Logik-Publishing, Tidbit Software, Toad Computers, and
- ICD Inc.
-
- Organizers say the show will showcase the latest Atari products and
- services, and will include seminars on desktop publishing and video
- production, hands-on instruction from manufacturers and software
- developers, MIDI demonstrations, giveaways, a swap room and much more.
-
- For more information about attending or exhibiting at Connecticut
- AtariFest '92, contact Brian Gockley, chairman, 18 Elmwood Avenue,
- Bridgeport, CT 06605 [Phone (203) 332-1721].
-
- ----------------
-
- Some interesting comments about Atari and the Midi market from John J.
- (Atari Explorer) - Cat. 14, Topic 3, Msg. 31 - from the ST Roundtable on
- Genie...
-
- Mike:
-
- WRONG, WRONG, WRONG! "Flashy advertising sells!" ... not true.
- Musicians are notoriously immune to flashy endorsements, because
-
- 1) they don't make a lotta- lotta money to spend on stuff that Paula
- Abdul likes, and
- 2) They're smart enough to know that what's going to grab an A&R
- person's interest is musical quality -- NOT "what kinda system I own."
-
- In other words, this guy's future is wrapped up in PERFORMANCE SPECS
- and PRICE. NOT "Elton John uses my system."
-
- This was confirmed, five minutes ago, when I got off the phone with
- Alan Garvey, manager of PMC ("Dangerous on the Dance Floor" -- #1 RAP
- single NYC Jan/Feb '92), who says to me: "John, we need to do
- business. The boyz are *sick* of these Macs. I'll send you a report on
- PMC and my other new acts, and let's talk."
-
- Nice guy, Alan Garvey. Smart guy. Making money. In music. Shortly with
- Atari systems, I'm forced to assume. I mean, if the sale walks in the
- door, and holds out the money, I should refuse? (Grin) As far as
- advertising goes, my ex-from-France-girlfriend told him to call me. As
- far as I know, Atari didn't have to pay her anything. (grin)
-
- To SM [Music<>MIDI]:
-
- The point is, we're NOT starstruck. Frankly, anybody who thinks Mick
- Fleetwood is still a star ought to listen to the radio more. We're NOT
- that impressed with triple-plat (I mean, Madonna uses Atari systems,
- okay?), because triple-plat is only 20 systems, worldwide. What we're
- impressed with is the idea that there are FIVE music markets, out
- there, from largest to smallest:
-
- 1) People who want to learn to play an instrument. By pushing MIDI-
- based Atari ST music solutions on these people, we're saving them
- megabucks and giving them the BEST training tools on the market.
-
- 2) Serious working musicians. I'm talking weddings and Bar Mitzvah's,
- here. VERY price-performance sensitive. You make $20,000/year working
- six nights a week, you ain't into digital on a Macintosh platform.
- You're into "the ST plays the accordion parts, and I play the keyboard
- parts."
-
- 3) People about to break. See above. Money is still a problem, but
- we're talking image, now, so the PERFORMANCE aspect of Atari systems
- is still attractive. Let's face it ... Apple doesn't HAVE a reliable,
- cheap, four-track digital system for under $5,000. Warner A&R *will*
- notice.
-
- 4) Stars. These people only care if their lives are made easier. Atari
- systems make their lives easier. They make better MUSIC.
-
- Currently, Atari's marketing plans for the music market depends on
- advertising to attract groups one and two, and personal contacts to
- attract groups three and four. It's WORKING. PMC's manager JUST CALLED
- ME. My advice is: wait until the stats are in, but don't bet the farm
- on Apple. If you aren't Billy Joel, you can't afford it.
-
- To OUTRIDER:
-
- The thing is, Atari can GET endorsements. You think Peabo Bryson
- ("Beauty and the Beast," #1-selling album on Billboard's R&B charts,
- October '91 "Can you Stop the Rain") was PAID to tell me what he told
- me in the February issue of Explorer? Bryson's people call me every
- two weeks to ask WHAT THEY CAN DO FOR ATARI!
-
- We're talking "brand loyalty," here. Okay, Peabo wants a four-meg ST
- Book, but still. Don't YOU? *I* sure do. (grin)
-
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- Transcript of a formal Conference, held Tuesday, April 14, 1992.
-
- SPECIAL GUEST - OLIVER STEINMEIER
-
- +++++++++++++++
-
- .Gordie>
- First, let me welcome Oliver to DELPHI. We tried to get him to join
- us for a formal Conference last year, but couldn't find a date he
- hadn't already committed elsewhere. So, when we found out he was
- going to be In the USA this spring, we wisely got him lined up well
- ahead of time.
-
- For those of you who don't know who Oliver is, let me tell you just a
- bit about him. Oliver lives in Karlsruhe, Germany and is an active
- Atari owner there. He somehow manages to write 20 pages for the
- German magazine ATARI JOURNAL each month. He has also written or
- co-authored more than 16 computer oriented books, is one of the
- co-developers of KBS (an cross-platform operating system of some
- kind), did the translation of DC's DataDiet for the German market,
- and has reviewed all three MC68030 boards for the ST that are
- available (SST, Turbo 030, Hypercache 030).
-
- And, most recently, he had a chance to put MultiTOS through its paces,
- and wrote a review of what he found for Atari Journal.
-
- Oliver, do you have any opening comments you'd like to make?
-
- .Oliver>
- Hi folks, it's nice to be here! This is my first conference, not only
- the first I attend on this side but also the first I see live in
- action at all... So please excuse any problems that I might cause
- here! It's all my fault :-)
-
- .Gordie>
- I'll start it out by asking if you have any observations on how Atari
- is doing in Europe. ga
-
- .Oliver>
- Atari in Europe? Well, I have no idea what Atari is doing in other
- countries but Germany. Back home in Germany they are not as strong as
- they used to be, but compared to here it's still a big market. Well,
- I know, this answer isn't full of details, but what exactly do you
- want to know? GA
-
- .Gordie>
- Can developers still make enough money to stay in business in Germany?
- ga
-
- .Oliver>
- Yes, they can, if their products are good, and if their products are
- needed. Actually there are still new companies getting on the market
- with new ideas and products. GA
-
- .Gordie>
- Thanks.
-
- .Jerry>
- What is MultiTOS??? I never heard of it before. GA
-
- .Oliver>
- Good question. MultiTOS is supposed to be a new operating system for
- the Atari 680xx line that allows the use of more than one program at a
- time (i.e. multitasking). GA.
-
- .Dana@STReport>
- Could you elaborate on that a little more, Oliver? GA
-
- .Oliver>
- Okay Dana, as you probably know there are operating systems that allow
- the use of only one program at a time. TOS/GEM used to be something
- like that (let's forget about ACCs).
-
- Then there are operating systems that have multitasking capabilities.
- For the ST there have been systems like OS/9 and Minix on the market
- for quite a while already. The thing is, though, that they wouldn't
- allow the use of your favorite GEM word processor or any other
- software you used to use.
-
- MultiTOS now allows the use of more than one GEM program at a time,
- i.e. wwhile you are writing a letter using xyz-word you can have your
- C-compiler doing some work for you. GA.
-
- .Gordie>
- Okay, Dana did you have an 'official' question? <g>
-
- .Dana@STReport>
- yep... A 2-parter, of sorts...
-
- How do you view Atari Germany's response to the users in Germany
- compared to what you hear about the U.S.?
-
- ...and 2) Could one learn something from the other to improve their
- image? GA
-
- .Oliver>
- I don't see that Atari Germany is doing what users want them to do.
- There have been delays in shipments lately, so TT's weren't available,
- for example.
-
- The Book wasn't available when I left Germany, it was said that it
- would be in the stores in April, though, so I'm looking forward to see
- if they kept that promise this time.
-
- There isn't really a dialog between Atari users and Atari going on in
- Germany, one reason might be that online services aren't as important
- as they are here.
-
- The print magazines are pretty important, though, and they have been
- criticizing Atari lately. Now that the Falcon /030 has been shown to
- selected developers and press representatives there is some hope that
- something is gonna change. GA.
-
- .Dana@STReport>
- So what's the reason behind the massive turnout at shows like
- CeBIT and others in Germany? Are that many more Atari users there
- than here? GA
-
- .Oliver>
- Yes, there are a lot more ST users in Germany than here. And it's no
- problem at all, for example, to find 'the friendly neighborhood Atari
- dealer'. In Karlsruhe, for example, there are 5 or 6 dealers who sell
- Atari computers or related products. Karlsruhe is about 250,000
- people. GA.
-
- .Bryan>
- Is DC Data Diet very popular in Germany? Is the magazine you work for
- very popular? What kind of Atari system do you own and use? And,
- lastly, is the LYNX hand-held game system very popular? GA
-
- .Oliver>
- DC Data Diet is brand new on the German market. I translated the
- manual, and the program came out at CeBIT about a month ago. There
- were a lot of people at the Artifex table showing interest in the
- program.
-
- There are four ST magazines currently on the German market. We (Atari
- Journal, sorry :-) started as a magazine that focused mainly on the
- public domain market. Since last fall we are a full blown magazine,
- and people like us.
-
- The Lynx? It's a good toy, I don't have one, though. The Game Boy is
- selling a lot better, though. They even have radio commercials for
- games...
-
- I still use my old 520ST+ (bought in 1986) with 2.5 MB, monochrome
- screen, and 240 MB hard disk space. GA.
-
- .Hudson>
- Oliver, welcome to Massachusetts! Two questions.. Is your "journal"
- available in the U.S.? How sophisticated was MULTITOS? Was it on the
- same lines as Multifinder, or more like what the Amiga runs?
-
- .Oliver>
- Atari Journal is not available in the US, but you can subscribe to it,
- if you want. It's in German, though. As for MultiTOS, we got a
- betatest version of MultiTOS, which I reviewed for Atari Journal. I
- haven't had the chance to make any detailed tests, but from what I saw
- I can tell you that it seems to be a major improvement - as soon as it
- comes out... It still has bugs, and lots of programs don't like it,
- because they are not expecting other programs to run at the same time,
- but once it is out on the market the developers should have updates
- ready. GA.
-
- .Hudson>
- Thanx,GA
-
- .Paul P.>
- This is gonna be kinda lengthy...sorry. You mentioned that there are
- still new companies getting on the market with new ideas. How will
- that sit with us older ATARIANS (ST users pre-1985)? Seems as though
- some overseas software either locks up my keyboard and/or monitor goes
- heywire. Will this be corrected when they are imported to here in the
- USA or will we have to upgrade to the next generation ATARI system??
- Thanks! (GA)
-
- .Oliver>
- What problems are you having?
-
- .Paul P.>
- The monitor flickers occasionally upon boot up and sometimes the
- keyboard locks up too. As far as specific programs, I can't remember
- their names. Sorry to say I sold them to a friend with an STe and he
- had no problems. Sorry I can't be more specific. ga
-
- .Oliver>
- And that happened with European programs only? I have no clue what
- that might come from. As I said I'm still using my old 520ST+, and it
- works fine.
-
- One general problem for German/European companies is, though, that the
- US market isn't as big as the one at home, so they sometimes aren't
- sure whether it's worth it to make special versions for overseas. GA.
-
- .Paul P.>
- Oh! well, maybe cause of TOS 1.0? Thanx for the help. I will still
- save for the FALCON (dedicated ATARIAN on board) ehehehe! Thanx!
-
- .Oliver>
- Yes, TOS 1.0 might be the reason. Get yourself something nice, TOS
- 2.06, for example :-) GA.
-
- .Paul P.>
- Thank you!
-
- .Vic>
- How does multitos differ from multigem, another multi tasking product
- we have over here in the states? They both seem to access the
- programs running via the desk accessory area on the desk top. GA
-
- .Oliver>
- I have reviewed/tested both products. Both seem to be similar, since
- they both list processes in the 'Desk' menu, but internally they are
- totally different. As you might know MultiGEM only allows the use of
- up to 6 processes. MultiTOS has no limit (except for the RAM
- limitations, of course). Also, MultiTOS has something like a round-
- robin scheduler that gives each process a certain amount of CPU time
- according to its priority. MultiGEM doesn't have something like that,
- but uses GEM calls to switch processes. If one of the tasks doesn't
- call operating system functions frequently (like ARC) the multitasking
- doesn't really work, because the other processes don't get the chance
- to do their work.
-
- There will be a new version of MultiGEM coming out soon. It's called
- MultiGEM II (what a surprise :-). There is also a product called
- Mag!x That seems to be similar to MultiGEM. GA.
-
- .Vic>
- chuckle :) thank you. GA
-
- .Gordie>
- We're also going to be trying something new this time. Oliver, being
- the generous guy he is, has offered to provide some door prizes that
- we will be giving away through the course of the Conference. How we
- award those prizes is still in the air. One option is a straight
- random drawing, where pure luck will be the deciding factor. That's
- the easy one. Our other option is asking a trivia question, and
- giving the prize to the first correct answer that we get. That method
- is a little trickier, and requires one simple rule. If we ask a
- trivia question, everyone should type in their answer, but NOT press
- the return key, until I give the proper signal, which will look
- something like this:
-
- .Gordie says HIT RETURN NOW!
-
- That will give everyone an equal chance at having their answer appear
- first, with no handicap for slow typing abilities. Any answer that
- 'jumps the gun' will be disqualified, by the way, even if it's
- correct. We want it to be fair for everyone, so please abide by that
- one simple rule.
-
- Our first drawing will be a random drawing, and we'll save the bigger
- prize for later on.
-
- The first prize is a program called ST Guide, by the way. Oliver, can
- you briefly describe it?
-
- .Oliver>
- When I was invited to this conference (and told about the door prize
- I'd have to bring :-) I thought that it would be hard to find a
- German program that is a) unknown here, or at least not available,
- and b) Useful for someone who doesn't speak German. I found a program
- called ST Guide, which is a useful tool for people who want to create
- or organize an online help system. It is said to be similar to PC
- programs such as Norton Guide. A text file can be turned into a help
- file that then can be used from the ST Guide accessory. The program
- is useful for shareware authors, for example, who would like to
- provide a help system with their program (there is a freeware version
- coming with it!). And the best thing about ST Guide is that I could
- get an English version with English docs from the developer. GA.
-
- .Gordie>
- I'll do a quick /who to get a list of who's here, then have DELPHI
- pick
- a random number to decide which person will receive the program. Hang
- on a sec...
-
- And the winning number is...
-
- 11. Steve, that's you!
-
- .Kevin>
- Yay!
-
- .Paul P.>
- Right on Steve!!
-
- .Gordie>
- How did I get there? I had DELPHI roll a 17 sided die and Steve was
- the number 11 person on the list of who's here.
-
- Steve, send me your mailing address in e-mail, and I'll get it to
- Oliver.
-
- .Oliver>
- Congrats, Steve! I don't have the program right here (didn't feel
- like carrying it through the US...), but send me your address, and
- it's on the way as soon as I get back home (May). GA.
-
- .Kevin>
- Sounds like Atari U.S! Just kidding!
-
- .Steve>
- Thanks!!
-
- .Gordie>
- Okay. That out of the way, we'll continue with the questions. Jerry,
- you want to try again?
-
- .Jerry>
- In Gordie's opening statement about you writing for a Journal... Q -
- Are you like a Bata tester EX...MultiTOS... And are there some NEW
- items in the horizon that the general public don't know about?
-
- .Oliver>
- If the public doesn't know about it then there is a reason for that
- :-)
- Have you heard about Pure Pascal, the new Pascal compiler from
- Application Systems, that is supposed to be compatible to Turbo Pascal
- (and even faster than Pure C)?
-
- .Jerry>
- No.
-
- .Oliver>
- Okay, Pure Pascal was shown at CeBIT, and it will come out soon. It
- has been developed by the same people who already swept the C market
- with Pure C... (which used to be called Turbo C). ga
-
- .Jerry>
- Another Q -> Do you know if & when some of these software eople will
- write the software to operate for 60 hrz instead of 50 hrz? 60 hrz is
- the USA norm.
-
- .Oliver>
- You talk about games, right? I'm not interested in games at all :-(
- no time for that...
-
- .Jerry>
- Some of these are games and some utilities....The DEMOS
-
- .Oliver>
- Well, it's the problem that I mentioned earlier. Some companies just
- don't see chances on the market here... GA.
-
- .Gordie>
- Jerry, anything that doesn't autoboot can be run after using one of
- the various programs that change the rates.
-
- .Jerry>
- I've tried that AND they reset to 50 hrz. I have TOS 1.4.
-
- .Gordie>
- Oh, well, I don't know what to tell you then. E-mail me the names,
- and I'll see if I can find anything out.
-
- .Oliver>
- Bad habit :-) There are lots of people in Germany who also use the 60
- Hz mode, because it's no problem with good color TV sets, and it
- provides a much better image (less flickering). GA.
-
- .Jerry>
- ok ga
-
- .Sky>
- Tell us some about the "030" boards, and in your opinion, do you
- believe that they are the wiser route to go than a TT or waiting for
- the new Falcon. Last, Please try to get someone to translate the
- program NVDI into English, and sell it in the US. GA
-
- .Oliver>
- As for NVDI I'll try to get this message to Bela, the developer of
- NVDI... Maybe there is a change, I doubt it, though.
-
- There is no easy answer on whether one should get a TT, a 68030 board
- or a Falcon 030. First there aren't too many details out about the
- Falcon yet. The 68030 boards that I reviewed worked pretty good
- (detailed questions?). If you already have a Mega ST with an
- expensive graphics card and other stuff, it might be wiser to get one
- of those boards. If you still hang around with your old 1 MB 520 and
- the good old SC1224, a TT might be the cheaper solution (and also the
- more compatible one). GA.
-
- .Sky>
- Last, is NVDI still the fastest? thanks, GA
-
- .Oliver>
- I can't confirm that, because I didn't see the CodeHeads' new Warp 9
- yet. GA.
-
- .Allen>
- Is OS-9 used on the ATARI? I have been told it is the popular OS in
- Europe on the ATARI and Amiga, but I was there and saw a lot of Ataris
- and Amigas but no OS-9......
-
- .Oliver>
- I haven't seen it either, but it is available. There are ads for it,
- or at...
-
- .Allen>
- btw OS-9 is an OS that is used on the Tandy CoCo.
-
- .Oliver>
- ...least there were ads in the magazines some time ago. But since it
- isn't TOS/GEM compatible, the masses didn't care about it (and neither
- did the press). GA.
-
- .AP7>
- Has the reunification of Germany provided for much growth in the Atari
- market as a whole? GA
-
- .Oliver>
- Atari had been selling 130XEs and 800XLs to the former GDR, and after
- the reunification there are 16 Million people who have been waiting
- for real computers. After the first euphoria about the reunification
- was over most families found out, though, that a computer system costs
- a lot of money, money which was actually needed for other stuff (like
- new cars, VCRs, ...) So the big run for new computers didn't really
- happen, and also PCs are pretty popular in the former GDR now, because
- they provide the same power for less money... GA.
- JDBARNES>
- Oliver, I would like to say that I think ST Journal is an extremely
- professional product even if it's not chock full of glitzy ads. Is
- the "power user" population in Germany really as strong as ST Journal
- would seem to indicate (from its content)?
-
- .Oliver>
- We try to make a magazine that is understandable for most of the Atari
- owners. If you compare Atari Journal with other German magazines
- you'll find that we have less articles for the 'real programmer' than
- the other mags. Instead, we hope to find a good mixture between basic
- introductory articles on various topics (such as 'What is
- multitasking?') and reviews of new hard- and software. GA.
-
- JDBARNES>
- ST Journal is the only German Mag that I read (it's actually Current
- Notes' exchange copy), so my perceptions may be biased. Second, there
- are some top-notch US products that seem to work better than European
- ones - UIS III is one example. Hotwire is another. What kind of
- reception do these get in Europe?
-
- .Oliver>
- UIS III is available in Germany (just saw an ad :-), but I haven't
- seen (or written) any reviews. Hotwire I love, but since Gemini is
- _very_ popular and the new TOS 2.06 is a big success it doesn't get
- the recognition it deserves. GA.
-
- JDBARNES>
- Thanks, Oliver, that's all for me. GA.
-
- .Kevin>
- Atari seems to be getting more mention in U.S. publications lately -
- even a little advertising! What is the state of Atari advertising in
- Germany and Europe as a whole? Thanks! GA (Get Atari) :^)
-
- .Oliver>
- There are ads in Atari magazines. I don't know about other non-
- computer related magazines, though. What I'm always surprised about
- is that they have radio commercials in which they tell us how good the
- ST can be used for video games. They claim that the world's best
- games are available for the ST, and that it is just as perfect for
- playing games as for serious work. What businessman is gonna buy an
- ST for his office after that? GA
-
- .Steve>
- Do public perceptions of the various computers (e.g. Ataris, Macs,
- IBM/clones, Amigas, etc.) differ much between here and Europe? (GA)
-
- .Oliver>
- In Germany the Amiga is widely know as a game machine. GFA BASIC
- wasn't a big success for the Amiga, for example. The ST is used by
- students, small businesses, and universities (yes, that's true!). GA.
-
- .Steve>
- So the Atari in Europe is like the Mac here?
-
- .Oliver>
- I don't really know what the Mac is doing here. A couple of years ago
- the Mac was quite expensive, so the average user couldn't afford to
- get one.. This has changed now, and many people who would have bought
- an Atari get themselves a Mac... Good bye, JackIntosh! GA.
-
- .Gordie>
- Dana wanted me to ask if Atari Journal has considered expanding it's
- readership by producing an English version? I'll add that I think
- it'd be nice to see some translated articles in some of the existing
- US magazines, if that would be possible.
-
- .Oliver>
- Naa, I don't think that there will be a chance for an English version.
- Translated articles? Hmm, I can't make any decisions on that, but
- I'll forward that proposal.
-
- .Gordie>
- Thanks.
-
- .Paul P.>
- Since the Deutsch Mark fluctuates like the English Pound, how can we
- be sure the prices quoted in catalogs/magazines like ST Format, ST
- User, etc. are current? Like when I call, will they give me a US
- dollar amount? (sorry, call me naive I guess) :) GA
-
- .Oliver>
- I don't think that many companies will accept payments in US dollars.
- One problem is that credit card orders are not common in Germany (I
- don't know any company on the Atari market that accepts credit card
- orders.) GA.
-
- .Paul P.>
- So then what are we to do? Any Suggestions?
-
- .Oliver>
- Open your own business, import the particular program and sell it
- here! No, seriously, I don't know how you can order stuff in Germany
- that is not available here. Maybe you have friends over there who
- could send you the stuff? GA.
-
- .Paul P.>
- Wouldn't I have to pay a "duty" too?
-
- .Oliver>
- Not in Germany, as far as I know, but maybe the US customs wants to
- see some money.
-
- .Paul P.>
- Thanx. GA.
-
- .Gordie>
- AP7, do you have a solution here?
-
- .AP7>
- The gentleman who needs to know about paying in a foreign currency, I
- suggest correspondence first, then send foreign denomination travelers
- cheques.
-
- .Oliver>
- Yes, travelers cheques in German marks do exist! GA.
-
- .AP7>
- I got MasterSound from England that way, no probs with customs,
- either.
-
- .Gordie>
- Kev, you have a comment?
-
- .Kevin>
- Send a letter first, like AP7 said - I just sent money once and got
- burned.
-
- .Gordie>
- Excellent point.
-
- .Gordie>
- It's running a little late, so why don't we have another door prize
- drawing? We'll try a trivia question here, so...
-
- Here's the rule for the Trivia contest. Type your answer as soon as
- you have one. But DO NOT press RETURN until you get the signal to do
- so. That will provide a fair chance to any of us who don't have
- especially good typing skills. Any answer that 'jumps the gun' will
- be disqualified, and we'll have to ask another one, which will
- probably be tougher. So please, wait for the signal.
-
- This time, the prize is some kind of keyboard enhancers. Oliver, can
- you explain a bit better?
-
- .Oliver>
- Okay, you have noticed that I had some problems with this keyboard.
- (* Which have been edited out to enhance readability- Gordie *) A
- German company has developed new key caps for the ST that improve that
- feedback. Unfortunately these caps are for German STs with all those
- nasty umlaut characters etc. They also have a brand new product which
- improves the touch even more. As you might know there are little
- pieces of rubber with a graphite ring under each key which close an
- electrical circuit whenever that particular key is pressed. The
- quality of the original Atari keyboard is so bad, because those rubber
- things (I have no clue what they are called) are so weak. The prize
- I'm gonna give away now is a replacement set for those rubber things.
- It's easy to install them, and it is really good (not as good as a PC
- keyboard with DEKA, though :-) GA.
-
- .Gordie>
- Okay, you all know the Rule, so we'll have Oliver ask his question
- now. Do NOT press that RETURN key until I give the signal.
-
- .Oliver>
- Norm, I'm sorry, but you can't participate, because it would be unfair
- if you did :-)
-
- NORMW>
- Rats!
-
- .Gordie>
- I'll give you all about a minute to answer.
-
- .Oliver>
- Okay, here's the question: How many keys are there on German ST
- keyboards?
-
- I can see you guys searching for photos of German STs :-) GA.
-
- .Gordie says PRESS RETURN NOW!
-
- .Steve> 84
-
- .Jerry> ???
-
- .Paul P.> 75
-
- .AP7> 95
-
- .STeaser> 109
-
- .Sky> 108
-
- MICKEYANGELL> 115
-
- .AP7> 101
-
- .Terry> 118
-
- .Gordie>
- Any other answers?
-
- .AP7> 102
-
- .Sky> 91
-
- .Gordie>
- No fair giving more than one!
-
- .AP7> 97
-
- MRBURKLEY> 93
-
- .AP7> ok
-
- .Steve> 1 through 200 (kidding) :)
-
- .Gordie>
- Anyone right yet, Oliver?
-
- .Kevin> 92
-
- .Gordie>
- No more guessing!
-
- .Oliver>
- Yes, I think there is a correct answer, what do you think, Norm? GA.
-
- NORMW>
- I am typing on a PC keyboard with a DEKA..I haven't got one to check,
- but it is one more than an American ST keyboard!
-
- .Oliver>
- Yes, that's right. And since this keyboard right in front of me has
- 94 keys (we counted 3 times!) the correct answer is 95! GA.
-
- .Gordie>
- AP7, you won!
-
- .AP7>
- my first guess
-
- .Gordie>
- E-mail me your address and I'll forward it on to Oliver.
-
- .Steve>
- Congrats! (Ok, what's the extra key??)
-
- .Paul P.>
- darn! Missed it buy that much eheheeheh! Right on AP7!!
-
- .STeaser>
- Congrats AP7 (and Steve)
-
- .Kevin>
- Yay!
-
- .Oliver>
- Congrats! I hope you don't have a DEKA so that you can use this prize
- (actually I hope you do have a DEKA :-) GA.
-
- .AP7>
- It was a guess, I knew more, thought one, but when no congrats figured
- I
- might be wrong and....
-
- MRBURKLEY>
- Congrats, (but isn't 93 close too <g>
-
- .AP7>
- It's an extra alphabetic character, right...?
-
- MRBURKLEY>
- Umlaut?
-
- NORMW>
- All European keyboards have one extra key, whose use varies by
- country.
-
- .Kevin>
- self-destruct?
-
- .Gordie>
- Okay, we're over 2 hours, so we'll have a couple more questions, and
- then draw for the big prize. Which... is a PC Speed. <g> Aren't you
- glad you all hung around this long?
-
- .Oliver>
- The one key that we were looking for is the '<>' key which is located
- on the left side of the 'y' (which is located where you guys have the
- 'z'). Did you get that? It's QWERTZ in the top line, and YXCV in the
- bottom line. GA.
-
- NORMW>
- It is located next to the left SHIFT key, which is shorter!
-
- .Gordie>
- Oliver, do you have any feelings as to why new products appear on the
- horizon in Europe before anywhere else? (Dana asked me to ask that
- one.)
-
- .Oliver>
- New products? European products, or new Atari machines? GA.
-
- .Gordie>
- Atari products, I'd guess. ga
-
- .Oliver>
- Probably because the market is _a lot_ bigger. I don't really like
- that, though, because this policy ruins the US market entirely. They
- should get the machines out everywhere at the same time. I know, FCC
- regulations are a problem, but other companies don't have that
- problem, right? GA.
-
- .Gordie>
- Good observation. Other companies do seem to break new products
- everywhere at the same time without a problem.
-
- .AP7>
- What is the Falcon I've seen mention of... a computer, or a game?
-
- .Oliver>
- I didn't see the Falcon myself. Jack Tramiel called it a workstation
- for your home. Since it is said to be compatible with the old ST line
- I'd call it a computer :-) GA.
-
- .Jerry>
- In the USA, Atari is suing another company [Nintendo I think]... Is
- this company having any influence in Europe & Germany or is this a
- press stunt for exposure?
- .Oliver>
- The story has been in the news in Europe, actually in the 'News from
- USA section of Atari Journal :-)', but I don't think that this is
- gonna have a big influence in Europe (unless Atari makes a lot of
- money by winning the lawsuit). Nintendo is big in Europe, too. GA.
-
- .Jerry>
- ok and thank you for appearing here on Delphi tonight.....ga
-
- .Gordie>
- I think we'll give away that PC Speed, and take this informal. We're
- running about 2 1/2 hours and it's approaching 1 on the east coast.
-
- .Kevin>
- ich bin fertig!
-
- .Oliver>
- Great! GA.
-
- .Gordie>
- We'll do the random method, so give me a sec to do a /who to get the
- list.
-
- .Paul P.>
- Just a comment to say thanks and to say it is good to see the ATARI
- still supported. Thanks Oliver for coming tonite!!!!
-
- MRBURKLEY>
- Thanks!
-
- .Terry>
- I'll second that. Thanks!
-
- .Gordie>
- Oh, does anyone have an objection to including our two previous
- winners
- in this drawing?
-
- (* There were several conflicting views on the matter... *)
-
- .Gordie>
- Looks like a vote is in order. /send biblinski with your vote to
- exclude or include.
-
- Let me take this brief pause to thank Oliver for being our guest
- tonight, and for providing the door prizes.
-
- .Gordie>
- Gotta do a count here... hang on...
-
- Okay, we got more includes than excludes.
-
- .Oliver>
- It was great being here tonight and talking to you. A very nice
- experience, I guess it's time we get something like this in Germany,
- too. The Atari is not dead, and with your support it won't die that
- soon!
-
- .Gordie>
- And the winning number is...
-
- Number 4, who is... Terry!
-
- .Kevin>
- <sniff>
-
- .Kevin>
- Yay!
-
- .Kevin>
- Huzzah!
-
- .Kevin>
- stomp!
-
- .Gordie>
- No, I got it wrong.
-
- .Kevin>
- oops
-
- .Steve>
- Corn-gratulations!
-
- .Gordie>
- Sorry, Terry. Forgot to exclude myself and Oliver.
-
- The winner is Paul P. He's the fourth on my list after me and Oliver.
-
- .Terry>
- It was nice for awhile! :^)
-
- .Oliver>
- Why can't I win my own prize? That's unfair - at least it would save
- me some postage :-)
-
- .Kevin>
- Yay again!
- .Paul P.>
- I won??
-
- .AP7>
- wanna trade?
-
- .Steve>
- Yeah, Wanna??
-
- .Gordie>
- Paul, send me your address in e-mail, and I'll get it to Oliver.
-
- .Paul P.>
- No prob. Wow! The first time I ever won! Thanx, I'll do it!!!
-
- .Kevin>
- cool!
-
- .Terry>
- Way to go Paul!!
-
- .STeaser>
- Congrats Paul!
-
- .Steve>
- All right Paul! Sheeya!
-
- .AP7>
- Congrats!!!! Paul, now you can find out how clumsy DOS is and how
- great TOS is in person!!!
-
- NORMW>
- I've got a book on using the PC Speed written by Oliver Steinmeier,
- in English! Interested Paul??
-
- .Oliver>
- Hey Norm, don't forget that Fred McGhee, a US Atari expert did most of
- the work on the translation of the book (so it is written in perfect
- US English!)
-
- .Paul P.>
- Thanx! You betcha! I was gonna get it but couldn't afford since I got
- laid off last Tuesday.
-
- .Gordie>
- And it's time to bring the formal portion of this CO to a close.
- Thanks again, Oliver, and enjoy the rest of your visit to the USA!
-
- .Gordie declares the CO officially over!
-
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- editor.
-
- The Project Manager makes it easy to handle all your C sources, assembly
- sources, and object files. Only those files which have been modified are
- re-compiled or assembled.
-
- The ANSI standard Compiler supports type checking and function
- prototyping. When an error is found during compiling, simply
- double-clicking on the error message places the cursor directly on the
- offending source code line.
-
- Libraries are included for the TT's math co-processor, FSM-GDOS support,
- and the Borland BGI Graphics Library for compatibility with PC programs.
-
- The Assembler is five times faster than before, and supports local labels
- and longer symbol names. It can also generate code for all 680x0
- processors, up to the 68040. It also generates code for the 68881 and
- 68882 FPUs.
-
- The Debugger is a full source level debugger with its own graphical
- environment. It allows any number of windows to be open at once. Windows
- can include source code, variables, assembly, CPU/FPU registers, memory
- dumps, watched expressions, and the system stack. Breakpoints can be
- configured for a variety of specialized situations. There's even a special
- "animation" mode, where you can watch the program execute one line at a
- time.
-
- Feature List
- ------------
-
- o Fully Integrated Development Environment
-
- o Fast GEM-based Editor
-
- o Integrated Compiler and Linker
-
- o Easy Project Management
-
- o File Cache for Include and Object files
-
- o Quick Turnaround Time
-
- o Context-sensitive Help System for C definitions and user-defined
- functions
-
- o Compiler is ANSI standard
-
- o Lightning fast compiling, at about 9000 lines/minute
-
- o Generates code for 68000, 68010, 68020, 68030, 68040, 68881, and 68882
-
- o Amazingly fast assembler with macros, modules, and long symbol names
-
- o Linker supports DRI and Pure C object files
-
- o Simple library creation
-
- o Pure Debugger for Pure C and external programs
-
- o Debugger has its own graphical windowing system
-
- o Debugger displays processor and FPU registers, plus all variables within
- the program
-
- o Resource construction set included
-
- o Help System compiler lets you to create your own context-sensitive help
-
- o PC-HELP accessory for accessing help outside of the developer
- environment
-
- o 3 manuals, 650 pages total
-
-
- Requirements:
- -------------
-
- o Any Atari ST, STE, TT or compatible computer
-
- o At least 1 megabyte of memory
-
- o Any resolution (80 columns or greater), including high resolution and
- extended color display
-
-
- Pricing:
- --------
-
- $275 U.S. (plus shipping and handling)
-
- Turbo C Upgrades: $175 (must include original Turbo C master disks)
-
- Shipping and handling: $7 within the US, $10 to Canada
-
-
- Gribnif Software
- P.O. Box 350,
- Hadley, MA 01035
- Tel: (413) 584-7887
- Fax: (413) 584-2565
-
-
-
- NeoDesk 3
-
- The Ultimate Desktop's Amazing Spring Promotion
-
-
- Gribnif Software is happy to announce its new Spring Promotion of the best
- selling desktop replacement for the Atari ST, STE, and TT computers.
-
- The Regular Suggested Retail is $69.95. Through this special promotion,
- you can get the popular NeoDesk 3 for only:
-
- $35.00
- --------
-
- 50% off the Regular List Price!
- -------
-
- Only limited quantities will be offered at this special price, and once
- they are gone, the price will go back to the original $69.95, so order
- fast!
-
- Try out the desktop that beats the competition hand down. It offers many
- more features, capabilities, and power than even Atari's new desktop (TOS
- 2.0 and above).
-
- NeoDesk 3 is a complete replacement for the built-in desktop. It is the
- easiest and most affordable way to reach your Atari's true potential.
-
- NeoDesk 3 adds many new features and enhancements over the original
- desktop, while remaining compatible with your other software. There's no
- hardware to buy, no ROMs to plug in. Just install it on your system and
- off you go.
-
- Gribnif Software
- P.O. Box 350,
- Hadley, MA 01035
- Tel: (413) 584-7887
- Fax: (413) 584-2565
-
- Shipping and handling: $4 within the US, $5 to Canada.
-
- Dealer Inquiries Invited (Promotion Applies to You Too!)
-
-
- _________________________________________________________________
-
-
-
-
- > ///TURBO BOARD BBS VER. 2 STR Spotlight
- =======================================
-
-
- TURBO BOARD ST VERSION 2 INFORMATION
- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
-
- Turbo Board ST Version 2 is a total rewrite of our original BBS program.
- Over a year's work has gone into the total rewrite of Version 1, and Bill
- Miller has really outdone himself this time! We think we have a very good
- BBS program indeed!
-
- The ///Turbo Board Support bbs is running at bps rates from 1200-14400 if
- you would like to give us a call, the number is 416-274-1225
-
- Our F-net number is node 18, if you are calling from an ST bbs in the
- Fnet.
-
- John Miller, Bitblit Systems
-
- Turbo Board Version 2's NEW Features
- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
- -Expanded User privileges and Bitmaps for Passwords
- -KByte/File Ratio System
- -Smart Batch uploading & User File Description Editing
- -Ymodem-g uploads for HST users
- -BBS Handles/Real Name system
- -Full User File Editor
- -Masked Sysop commands (For Co-sysops)
- -Many NEW Sysop Functions, including new File Editor and Password Editor
- -Execute files from Main menu commands
- -Sysop definable Menus and Prompts
- -Main Menu commands and functions fully programable (also Submenus)
- -Many New Copy and Save Functions for Fmail, and other files
- -Quick help edit prompt in message editor
- -Modular BBS, (Main Module only uses about 80K of memory) for greater
- free memory -lots- when running Binkley (Fido Mailer)
- -NEW Database, you can use archives, and users can easily upload new
- database entries, entries have access levels
- -BBS handles line answering instead of modem
- -NEW SIG system for grouping message bases, fully configurable by Sysop
- -Quick Chat and DOS keys from local console
- -NEW Turbo System Generator with expanded features
- -UPDATE program for Turbo V1 and Forem ST Sysops to convert to V2
- -New Version 2 Manual (addendum for Version 1 Turbo Owners)
- -And many other new small features not listed here that are improvements
- over our Version 1.0
-
- Additional Features of Turbo 2.1
- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
-
- Version 2.1 running Version 2.0
-
- New features include:
-
- -New Gem BBS Executive Version 3.0 Totally rewritten and enhanced version
- -QWK compatible Qmail system in Message Bases
- -Integrated Full Screen Editor, with Merge and Copy file features for
- sysop
- -Binkley Mailer may be run as front door, or from BBS
- -New Event Scheduler for all batch files
- -Many smaller enhancements
-
- Under Developement
- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
-
- We have been promising this for a long time, and the Next version of Turbo
- Board will contain -fully- Fidonet Compatible message bases. No need to
- run Fifo, or Fidodoor. This new version is presently under developement.
-
- $89.95 US - USA and International List price for new Sysops
- $69.95 US - Special price for Current BBS Sysops (Supply current BBS
- number and information)
- $29.95 US - Special Update offer for Registered Turbo Version 1 Sysops
- (Turbo 2 addendum instead of Turbo 2 manual)
-
- Write or call for more information.
-
- In Canada: The US: Europe & UK:
-
- Bitblit Systems ABCO Computer Consultants L.B. Van Bokkem
- 1580 Liveoak Dr PO Box 6672 100 Broughton Ave
- Mississauga, ON Jacksonville, FL Aylesbury, Bucks
- Canada L5E 2X6 USA 32205-6672 England HP20 1QB
- 800-562-4037
- bbs# bbs# bbs#
- 416-274-1225 904-786-4176 +44-296-395935
-
-
- ____________________________________________________________
-
-
-
-
- > SILHOUETTE V1.37 STR InfoFile SILHOUETTE V1.37 RELEASED!
- =============================
-
-
-
- SILHOUETTE V1.37 RELEASED
- =========================
-
-
- American ST/TT software developer Maxwell C.P.U. is
- releasing Version 1.37 of the bit-image, vector graphics
- drawing program Silhouette. For registered users of versions
- 1.25 or higher, this release is offered as an update - free of
- charge. Registered users on GEnie and Compuserve receive
- updates direct.
-
- Silhouette's retail price remains just $94.95. Maxwell is
- keeping in line with Atari's philosophy of "Power without the
- Price". Silhouette is a comprehensive drawing program with
- auto-tracing at 1/5 the price of the auto-tracing program Avant
- Vector and half the price of the nearest competitor.
-
- Enhancements to Version 1.37 of Silhouette include:
- Advanced bezier curve handling, shipment of Silhouette with
- FONT-GDOS, direct Silhouette print function and convertibility
- of FSM outline fonts to vector objects.
-
- Bezier improvements include improved drawing and editing
- functions unique among computer graphics programs.
- Silihouette's bezier and b-spline curve handling is
- independent of GDOS but supports the GDOS format and also
- outputs bezier curves as postscript.
-
- FONT-GDOS by Atari Corp. is now offered with Silhouette.
- This is the new replacement for GDOS. It offers bit-image fonts
- with advanced memory management that greatly simplifies GDOS
- use. Silhouette now ships with the full complement of GDOS
- drivers including: HP DeskJet 500, HP LaserJet, HP PainJet, HP
- BubbleJet, SLM80x, SMM804, Star NB15, NX1000, Epson FX-80, NEC
- Okidata printers. Silhouette offers a direct print function.
- The OUTPUT program of the original GDOS has been eliminated.
-
- Silhouette also supports the new FSM-GDOS with outline
- fonts. FSM offers the same memory management as FONT-GDOS.
- Outline and bit-image fonts are installable together but the
- great advantage of FSM is its scalable fonts. Silhouette
- supports the rotation and skew options to 1/10th degree. And
- FSM fonts in Silhouette are now convertible to bezier vector
- objects which can be warped into impressive designs.
-
- QINDEX Benchmarks of GDOS:
-
- GDOS 1.1 G++ FONT-GDOS FSM-GDOS
- --------------------------------------------------------------
- GEM Draws 76%(293) 96%(294) 91%(294) 91%(294)
- Text Sroll 100%(135) 100%(135) 100%(135) 100%(135)
-
- Tests with QST-3 Installed are in parentheses. Benchmarks show
- that the new GDOS does not retard the system as the old GDOS
- did. With a software accelerator, any GDOS does not affect
- system performance. Test done on a MEGA4 with TOS 1.4 blitter
- off.
-
-
- Upcoming Improvements to Silhouette!
-
- Silhouette will soon offer the option of interfacing with
- the ScanLite desk accessory by the WizWorks. This will allow
- owners of handscanners and ScanLite to scan images directly
- into Silhouette.
-
- CVG output is presently in the works. And the present
- postscript output is being converted to the Adobe Illustrator
- format viewable and editable in Pagestream.
-
- Silhouette's auto-tracing function continues to be
- advanced. Expect a quantum leap improvement very soon with a
- mild $15 price increase.
-
- Through assistance from Atari Corp. developer support,
- Silhouette's interface has undergone major improvements since
- the initial version 1.07. The Toolbox is now anchored on the
- left-side of the screen and menu options and boxes have been
- standardized. Maxwell will not try to impress you with a sea of
- icons and an unorthodox interface. Silhouette will soon be
- supporting the new TT video modes, beginning with the TT medium
- resolution 640x480.
-
- Silhouette V1.37, $94.95.
-
- Available direct:
-
- Maxwell C.P.U.
- P.O. BOX 576
- Louisville, CO 80027-9998
- (303)666-7754
-
- or through your nearest Atari Dealer.
-
-
-
- ____________________________________________________________________
-
-
-
-
-
- > FLOW CONTROL - FIXED? STR FOCUS "Atari now knows what the problem is.."
- ===============================
-
-
-
-
- FLOW CONTROL - IS IT FIXED?
- ===========================
-
-
- by John Deegan
-
-
- TOS 2.06/3.06 does fix the need for the SERPTCH2 program, which fixed
- other problems related to when the additional serial ports were added. I
- have been reading many messages on the FNET about people having taken some
- of the flow control patches out with TOS 2.06/3.06 only to find out that
- it does not truly work.
-
- This and other problems have been pointed it out to Atari recently,
- they are working on these problems but seem reluctant to openly discuss
- these and other problems that still exist in TOS 2.06 (like the double
- mouse event bug and some file selector bugs, etc.)
-
- Atari now knows what the problem is with the RTS/CTS and maybe now
- they will be able to fix it once and for all. The many patch programs
- that exist to fix this bug DO NOT FIX IT 100%. I have disassembled many
- of these to see what they were doing and they don't address the true
- problem. Ironically, it was an issue of STReport earlier this year that
- caused me to re-investigate the problem and find the solution. This issue
- had a very nice explanation of flow control and the RTS/CTS problems.
-
- Using a serial bus analyzer I found that the ST continues to send data
- in the hardware flow control mode after the CTS signal goes high.
- Software flow control always worked. I disassembled the built in RS-232
- handlers in TOS 1.04 and TOS 2.06 and the code "looks" correct. It
- _should_ work. But it does not!
-
- The real problem with the RTS/CTS flow control is not in the software
- but it is in the hardware! No one at Atari had ever considered the real
- problem as my guess is that they have software and hardware people, but
- few if any Systems people. The hardware people never went back to look at
- the problem and the software people could not find any thing that looked
- wrong from their side.
-
- The problem is that the priority of the CTS interrupt is too low. The
- MFP (68901 Multi-Function Peripheral) has a 16 level interrupt controller
- and a UART in it. The UART is the heart of the ST's RS-232 port. In the
- interrupt controller, several levels are hard-wired for use by the UART.
- The remaining are free to use as the system designers choose. Atari
- placed the CTS interrupt at level 2 (0 is the lowest, 15 the highest
- priority). This goes all the way back to the original ST design.
-
- Level 12 is the interrupt that occurs when a new byte has arrived in
- the UART and Level 10 is the interrupt that occurs when a byte has been
- sent out of the UART and it is empty and ready for a new byte to be
- loaded. These are some of the fixed interrupt levels.
-
- During software flow control, the XOFF byte is sent by the Modem (Data
- Communications Device or DCE) and the Level 12 interrupt occurs. Level 12
- is always processed before Level 10. The XOFF byte is detected by the
- Level 12 handler and it sets an internal flag that says that no more data
- should be transmitted. In the mean time a byte may be in progress of
- being clocked out of the UART, when this byte is completely clocked out
- the Level 10 interrupt occurs. The Level 10 interrupt handler will check
- the internal flag and if it says that no output should occur, it returns
- doing nothing further. If the flag indicates that a byte may be
- transferred, it sends the next byte (if any) in the output buffer by
- loading in into the UART to be clocked out.
-
- The software flow control mode works as designed. The hardware flow
- control mode does not. Why? The DCE will raise the CTS line to signal the
- DTE to stop sending data, this will cause a Level 2 interrupt on the ST.
- However Level 2 is well below Level 10 and when the system is backed up,
- it is possible that the Level 10 interrupt may occur several times before
- the Level 2 handler is ever serviced. The Level 2 handler may not get the
- chance to set the internal flow control flag until it is too late, i.e.
- several extra bytes have leaked out. At 19200 baud, the Level 10
- interrupt handler can occur as often as every 521 uSec, thats about 521
- instructions on an 8 MHz 68000. With the other interrupt levels and the
- fact that an interrupts are sometimes disabled, statistically the problem
- is likely to occur. The early flow control patches may have worked at
- lower baud rates, but could not keep up at the higher rates.
-
- The real fix is to "read the interrupt register that indicates if a
- Level 2 interrupt has occurred before attempting to output a byte in
- hardware flow control mode, i.e. don't rely of the software flag as it may
- not be up to date, check the hardware register directly before attempting
- to output a byte." Atari now knows this and can, undoubtedly, fix the
- problem.
-
- In addition, Atari needs to address the fact that the RS-232 speed
- tops out at 19200 baud. This limits current modems that have a DTE-DCE
- link rate of 38400 baud as my USR Courier Dual Standard 16.8 does. The
- newer V.32bis modems can talk at 57600 baud.
-
- The new "Voice Mail" extensions to the Supra FAX Modems require 38400
- baud to send the compressed voice data. This is a major limitation. I
- have seen patches that allow higher baud rates, of 38400 on STs and Atari
- says that two of the extra serial ports on the Mega STe and TT/030 that
- use the Zilog SCC chip can go faster, but unfortunately, this is not
- supported in the BIOS.
-
- Hopefully, the next generation of machines will finally address this
- aggravating problem.
-
-
-
-
- _______________________________________________________________
-
-
-
-
-
- > SAN JOSE SHOW Show STR SHOW NEWS Northern California Atari Show
- ================================
-
-
- FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
-
-
- THE NORTHERN CALIFORNIA ATARI EXPO
- ==================================
-
-
-
- JULY 25th - 26th
-
- Sacramento, Ca
- The first Northern California Atari show in two years was announced
- today by a coalition of three local Atari user groups, Atari Bay Area
- Computer Users Society, the Sacramento ST users group, and the San Leandro
- Computer Club. The show will be held Saturday and Sunday, July 25th and
- 26th in Atari's own backyard at the Exhibit Hall in San Jose, California.
-
-
- This is the second Northern California Atari Expo, the first was
- highly attended and very successful. The show will run from 10 a.m to 5
- p.m. each day and admission is just $5. The Exhibit Hall is located at
- 145 W. San Carlos, San Jose.
-
-
- A Variety of dealers and developers are expected to attend, showing
- and selling their software and hardware products for the ST/TT and 8-bit
- family of computers as well as the Portfolio and Lynx.
-
-
- For additional information on the show including exhibition space
- availability, please contact us at:
-
- Northern California Atari Expo
- c/o SLCC
- P.O. Box 1506
- San Leandro, Ca 94577
- GEnie Address - M.WARNER8
- or
- call at (510) 352-8118
- or
- (510) 534-2197
-
- There will be further press releases as more information becomes
- available.
-
-
- ______________________________________________________________
-
-
-
-
- > USR SETTINGS STR Spotlight USRobotics Dual Standard 16.8 HST Modem
- ==========================
-
- After noticing how many folks were having one kind minor problem or
- another setting up their modems, I decided to place my own "S" register
- settings in this issue as a reference.
-
-
- *** THIS SETTING LIST IS FOR A GENERAL PURPOSE MODEM (CALLING OUT)
-
- ati4
- USRobotics Courier 16800 HST Dual Standard Settings...
-
- B1 C1 E1 F1 M1 Q0 V1 X7
- BAUD=19200 PARITY=N WORDLEN=8
- DIAL=HUNT ON HOOK TIMER
-
- &A3 &B1 &C1 &D2 &G0 &H1 &I0 &K1 &L0
- &M4 &N0 &P0 &R2 &S0 &T5 &X0 &Y1 %R0
-
- S00=000 S01=000 S02=043 S03=013 S04=010
- S05=008 S06=002 S07=060 S08=002 S09=006
- S10=007 S11=050 S12=050 S13=000 S14=001
- S15=000 S16=000 S17=002 S18=000 S19=007
- S20=000 S21=010 S22=017 S23=019 S24=150
- S25=005 S26=001 S27=000 S28=008 S29=020
- S30=000 S31=000 S32=005 S33=000 S34=000
- S35=000 S36=000 S37=000 S38=000
-
- LAST DIALED #: T
-
- OK
- ati5
- USRobotics Courier 16800 HST Dual Standard NVRAM Settings...
-
- DIAL=TONE B1 F1 M1 X7
- BAUD=19200 PARITY=N WORDLEN=8
-
- &A3 &B1 &G0 &H1 &I0 &K1 &L0 &M4
- &N0 &P0 &R2 &S0 &T5 &X0 &Y1 %R0
-
- S02=043 S03=013 S04=010 S05=008 S06=002
- S07=060 S08=002 S09=006 S10=007 S11=050
- S12=050 S13=000 S15=000 S19=007 S21=010
- S22=017 S23=019 S24=150 S25=005 S26=001
- S27=000 S28=008 S29=020 S32=005 S33=000
- S34=000 S35=000 S36=000 S37=000 S38=000
-
-
- STORED PHONE #0:
- #1:
- #2:
- #3:
-
- OK
-
-
- *** THIS SETTING LIST IS FOR A DEDICATED BBS MODEM
-
- ati5
- USRobotics Courer 16800 HST Dual Standard NVRAM Settings...
-
- DIAL=TONE B0 F1 M1 X7
- BAUD=19200 PARITY=N WORDLEN=8
-
- &A3 &B1 &G0 &H1 &I0 &K1 &L0 &M4
- &N0 &P0 &R2 &S0 &T5 &X0 &Y1 %R0
-
- S02=043 S03=013 S04=010 S05=008 S06=002
- S07=060 S08=002 S09=006 S10=007 S11=050
- S12=050 S13=000 S15=008 S19=007 S21=010
- S22=017 S23=019 S24=150 S25=005 S26=001
- S27=000 S28=008 S29=020 S32=005 S33=000
- S34=000 S35=000 S36=000 S37=000 S38=000
-
-
- STORED PHONE #0:
- #1:
- #2:
- #3:
-
- ati4
- USRobotis Courier 16800 HST Dual Standard Settings...
-
- B0 C1 E1 F1 M1 Q0 V1 X7
- BAUD=19200 PARITY=N WORDLEN=8
- DIAL=HUNT ON HOOK TIMER
-
- &A3 &B1 &C1 &D2 &G0 &H1 &I0 &K1 &L0
- &M4 &N0 &P0 &R2 &S0 &T5 &X0 &Y1 %R0
-
- S00=000 S01=000 S02=043 S03=013 S04=010
- S05=008 S06=002 S07=060 S08=002 S09=006
- S10=007 S11=050 S12=050 S13=000 S14=001
- S15=008 S16=000 S17=000 S18=000 S19=007
- S20=000 S21=010 S22=017 S23=019 S24=150
- S25=005 S26=001 S27=000 S28=008 S29=020
- S30=000 S31=000 S32=005 S33=000 S34=000
- S35=000 S36=000 S37=000 S38=000
-
- LAST DIALED #: T
-
- OK
-
- I've seen where some folks have complaints of 24oo baud callers not
- making good connections or no connections at all. Believe me, with two of
- these modems, it was easy to test all baud rates. Then to make sure of
- myself, I had 15 of my locals call the BBS at 1200 and 2400 using
- different brands of modems a number of times. They did so without
- difficulty. If anyone is having any kind of 'connect' problem, it would
- be a very wise and prudent decision to call USR and get an RMA number.
- (Return Merchandise Authorization) Get the modem exchanged or repaired.
- When the USRobotics Dual Standard 16.8 is working it is an exercise in
- perfection and speed. I hope my setting help in acting as a reference
- point. If you are considering a modem purchase, I highly recommend the
- USRobotics Dual Standard 16.8. High Speed Modem. Especially if you are a
- Sysop as you will be offering the very finest performance to your
- users/callers. The USR DS connects at 14.4 with most any modem out there
- capable of doing so with v.32 and its quite fast.
-
-
-
-
- ______________________________________________________
-
-
-
-
-
-
- > STR Support BBS List STR InfoFile The STReport Conference
- =================================
-
-
-
- CrossNet Conference Node Listing - as of 04/17/92 at 05:20 PM
- =============================================================
- Conference: "STReport Online" (34813)
- Generated From "Lead" Node: 350 - * THE BOUNTY ST BBS *
- Last Node List generated on: 04/01/92
-
-
-
- 18 - ///Turbo Board Support 19 - Autoboss/Atari Elite BBS
- 46 - Cheyenne Mountain 75 - Bloom County BBS
- 80 - Bit Heaven 99 - The Time Warp BBS
- 135 - Batcave BBS 266 - The Patch House
- 287 - Starlight BBS 299 - Critical Mass
- 307 - PayBax BBS 321 - microTalk
- 322 - ACEY 345 - RAM Wasteland
- 350 - * THE BOUNTY ST BBS * 363 - ComNet Luxembourg
- 378 - Little Lulu's Playground 410 - ACE Information Service
- 422 - Virtual Reality (PRIVATE) 429 - MASATEK
- 440 - {{{{ Realm of Chaos }}}} 442 - CMFM Blaster-Mix BBs
- 462 - The Atari ST Connection 469 - The Outer Region BBS
- 475 - Top Gun Systems #1-Las Vegas, 478 - Spectrum Atari Group of Erie
- 484 - microTalk II 489 - STeal Your Face
- 504 - Media 2000 508 - The SenTinel BBS
- 512 - The Asylum BBS 513 - The Forgotten Realms
- 532 - Bill's BBS 546 - Bear Swamp BBS
- 548 - The Metal Shop 555 - The Grid BBS
- 556 - Thieves Guild 557 - The Software Syndicate
- 595 - Temple of Doom 602 - Cartoon Haven BBS - FNET 602
- 610 - The Songwriter's Den BBS 618 - The Sword's Blade
- 620 - Leif's World 625 - Phil's Hangout
- 633 - The Dark STar BBS 637 - The Source Machine BBS
- 639 - The Million Dollar Saloon 642 - Hero's Haven
- 643 - The Ringworld 647 - E.H.C.R.
- 648 - The Mosh Bit 657 - The Round Table BBS
- 668 - ARGONAUT'S BBS 669 - Dateline: Atari BBS
- 675 - Motherboard 678 - A.C.O.R.N.
- 680 - The Revolution 681 - {-The STation 681-}
- 687 - R.A.T. III 689 - Speedy's Raceway
- 690 - Progressive Atari ST Enthusia 701 - The Conqueror Connection
- 702 - The Mother of All BBSs 707 - RevelSTone BBS
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- From the FNET
-
- Msg #29180 ( 53 of 53) Date: 04-11-92 (19:19)
- To : LES PHILIPS
- From: MARK K.
- Subj: VARIOUS
- --------------------------------------------------------------------------
- - wow - you made your mark there mark !!
- - So where was i unintelligent ??
- - Just dont whack me with the fact i am leaving unintelligent messages -
- - tell me why !!
- - I am just trying to get some debate going on here - which i have not
- - seen you doing too much of !!
-
- I have been contributing to the Atari community for quite a while. In
- case you are not aware, this are a few to mention: Review of the
- "Profibuch" (USENET), help/suggestions to Mr. Varela who is the author of
- the "German-To-English Translator" and some more.
-
- I am currently majoring in Computer Eng. and have worked with systems
- ranging from VM/CMS to IBM RISC/6000. I have seen Multitasking at it's
- best and they certainly worked nicely.
-
- I posted my article on MultiTOS AFTER I had seen it and tried it out.
- It had bugs and at that stage was slow considering it was running on a
- TT68030. How can someone claim that MultiTOS is the best if he/she never
- tried it?
-
- The Atari lines of computers are nice but lack good support and more
- professional software. Some great products are Notator, Calamus SL,
- TurboASM, Tempus and a few more that certainly deserve positive ratings.
-
- I have never claimed that PCs are superb but they have more to offer
- in terms of software. I don't want to put any product/company down but
- Atari will have a though time competing in the future.
-
- I am very neutral and there are pro/contra arguments that I could
- bring up (which I did prior) but Atari users have to be realistic. The
- "My Computer is the best in the world" mentality doesn't belong into the
- professional world. Those are child-like statements and have and will not
- lead anywhere. There should be great respect to other computers and
- companies that try to compete on this market.
-
- If you want to start an intelligent discussion than this are not
- topics that should be discussed. I would like to see are more
- info-"hungry" discussion.
-
- Could anyone from the Atari Corporation answer the following
- questions, or if any readers know the answers please send them to me:
-
- 1) Is there any particular reason why Atari has choosen a very similar
- (actually they are the same) TT-SCSI pin layout as the Macintosh?
-
- 2) Why did Atari choose to use a non-standard cartridge slot format?
- I am aware that some third party developers are producing adaptors
- that will convert their 0.7087 inches "standard" to the more
- common Insert Cut-Out of 1/10 inch. It seem also that not all
- manufacturers carry the 40-pin dual readout card-edge receptacles.
- More common onces are the 36 or 44 pin. The data has been taken
- from EDAC Series connectors.
-
- 3) I have seen numerous complaints about the Monitor female and male
- adaptors. Since this are very hard to obtain, many hobbiest are
- having problems to make modifications/designs. A more typical
- connector that could replace the "non-standard" connector on
- the Atari would be the 13-pin Amphenol 92 Series Connectors.
- It's a 13-pin connector with 1 1/4-18 coupling thread. Is there
- any movement by Atari Corporation to adapt more easily obtainable
- parts for their future lines of computers?
- There has been a change in the ST(E) and TT lines. Atari has
- adopted an industrial standard D-Sub Solder Cup - 15 pin connector.
- It should be available in electronic business but it will certainly
- be harder to find than the 2 row versions (8+7).
-
- 4 ) In the future lines of Atari computers, will there be a move towards
- the engineering of a RISC system? Example would be Motorola's
- equivalent of the Intel 80960 (80960KA, 80960KB and 80960MC).
- A cost/performance ratio should be considered.
-
- 5) Bootable disks use several purposes which people should be aware of.
- In the first process, BIOS "analyses" the bootsector during the
- System initialization stage and jumps to the vector that is
- contained in LONG $47A( hdv_boot) which specifis the routine of the
- bootsector. The routine is used by the BIOS to see if there is a
- bootsector and if it's bootable. The sector is loaded into a buffer
- and the CRC (Cyclic Redundancy Check) is checked. If the result
- turns out to be $1234 a jump into the first byte of the sector
- occurs. The address of this buffer is not documented (I have
- checked several sources including the released notes) thus a
- position independant routine must be written.
- Where (address) is the buffer?
-
- 6) Why Atari doesn't use the full horz. space of a line but instead
- only 75% in the Atari TT is still a mystery. There would be no
- problems (from the design point of view) to allow 800 to 900 pixels
- per line instead of the current maximum of 640.
-
- This are a few thoughts that just went through my mind. I would
- certainly like to see all/some of the questions answered. Even though it
- is easy to blame a company for their mistakes (and I will be the first one
- to admit that they made a few), some aspects that never surfaced should be
- kept in mind:
-
- - The reason why the Atari TT is not as cheap as some people would like
- to see is, they decided to use most of the ST parts in the TT thus
- the final release came rather late (new design) and rather unnecessary
- high cost (the usage of recent developed VLSI would have cut down
- the cost dramatically).
-
- - NOTE: FOR PROGRAMMERS [Reference: Atari Profibuch - SYBEX Germany]
- ------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Your fingers adopt very slowly to keyboard combinations. In August
- 1989 at the Developers Conference there were certain guidelines
- set by the commision in order to make it more easy to the user. This
- guidelines are universal thus should be adopted for every system
- including PC, Atari, Macintosh, Amiga e.t.c.
-
- Keyboard Combination | Function
- ---------------------|--------------------------
- Ctrl-C | "copy"
- Ctrl-F | "find"
- Ctrl-O | "open"
- Ctrl-Q | "quit"
- Ctrl-V | "paste"
- Ctrl-X | "cut"
- Shift-"Arrow Up" | Page back
- Shift-"Arrow Down" | Page up (next page)
- Shift-"Arrow Left" | Beginning of line
- Shift-"Arrow Right" | End of line
- Ctrl-"Arrow Left" | One word back
- Ctrl-"Arrow Right" | One word forward
- Home | Beginning of the document
- Shift-Home(Clr) | End of document
-
- Keyboard Combination | Function
- ---------------------|--------------------------
- Ctrl-A | Select all
- Ctrl-G | Next (for searching)
- Ctrl-M | Save as
- Ctrl-N | New document
- Ctrl-P | Print
- Ctrl-S | Save
- Ctrl-R | Replace
- Ctrl-U | Close above window
- Ctrl-W | Next window
- Ctrl-Y | Delete line
- Ctrl-Z | Start shell
-
- There are a few Multitasking programs for the Atari on the market:
-
- - Micro-RTX by Beckemeyer Development Tools, allows real-time
- multitasking.
- - MiNT ("MiNT Is Not TOS") by Eric Smith which tries to "imitate" Unix.
- Some of the Unix-like features include Pipes, Redirection...
- Latest version is 0.93 and the source code is also available.
- - MultiGEM which was available since the CeBit '91. It will run on a TT.
- With 6 GEM programs running on a TT there is only a small amount of
- speed decrease noticeable. To switch between processes the activation
- on a window is required or selection of a ACC.
- You can run all "CLEAN" (very crutial in any of the above/below)
- programs) programmed GEM programs and TOS programs (help of additonal
- programs required).
- - Minix was originally developed for the PC but ported to the Atari
- market.
- - MultiTOS is Atari's entry point into the multitasking world. It still
- requires work in order to improve it. Atari took Eric Smith's concept
- and tries currently to expand on it.
-
- As you can see, Multitasking on the Atari computers is NOT new as some
- people still assume. Multitasking has been around for MANY years on other
- platforms and it's just now that Atari Corporation (and not a third party
- developer(s)) realized the users wishes to have one.
-
- For people who own a Monochrome monitor and would like to view color
- only programs on it, here is a small job you can do to achive it:
-
- -----------------------------
- |
- Pin 7 |
- R ---------270R-----+ |
- Pin 6 | |
- G ---------120R-----+ |
- Pin 10 | |
- B ---------820R-----+ |
- Pin 2 | |
- H+V---------47R------+-------------- > To Coax =========> To Mono
- Sync +--------- > Cable =========> Monitor
- Pin 13 | |
- GROUND -------------------+ |
- |
- -----------------------------
-
- *Origin: Fnet Node 66, The Bre(/\)ery _ Ajax_Canada _
-
-
-
- From GEnie
-
- Category 32, Topic 11
- Message 72 Sun Apr 12, 1992
- C.F.JOHNSON [CodeHead] at 12:53 EDT
-
- Boy oh boy! Am I ever excited about something. I can't get specific
- just yet, folks ... but we've got something incredible waiting in the
- wings, being groomed for its debut. And when I say "incredible," I _mean_
- unbelievable, unprecedented, and incomparable. (I know, it sounds like
- hype - - but I am absolutely certain that when this one comes out, you'll
- agree with me.)
-
- I'll say one thing about it -- if you're in the market for a word
- processor, you just might want to wait a little while before buying any of
- the currently available products. If you already own a word processor --
- start looking for a buyer.
-
- A *MAJOR* announcement is on the way. Stay tuned.
-
- - Charles
-
-
-
- From the FNET
-
- Msg # 23 ( 3 of 10 ) Date: 04-12-92 (13:08)
- To : RON KOVACS
- From: JOHN MILLER
- Subj: NON DISCLOSURE
- --------------------------------------------------------------------------
- Previously L.Ron Kovacs wrote:
- -
- - John, I do not wish to debate you. What you call a lie is just your
- - oposing opinion to my comments. However, your reply is not a problem
- - and I sincerely hope this is not going to become a NEW feature. I am
- - annoyed that I have to read messages from this conference in ST_REPORT.
- - Although it really doesn't surprise me since the fool reprinting them
- - doesn't have the balls to get up here and refute any alledged rumor,
- - only call members here names and spray silling childlike comments all
- - over the place.
-
-
- My View? Comments that you have expressed regarding our BBS software,
- constitute slander in my opinion, and could be used as a basis for a
- lawsuit to compensate us for any damages resulting from such slander.
-
-
- But you don't want to debate this. Instead, let's discuss this
- conference.
-
- Ralph would have gladly debated any of your views, if you hadn't
- deleted his node (350) out of this conference. Lulu at node 378 would
- also have gladly debated any of your opinions had you not deleted her node
- from this conference also. If _you_ had any _balls_, you would apologize
- to both these Sysops for deleting their nodes, and you would enter their
- nodes back into this conference.
-
- You would prefer instead, to scare folks into believing the following:
-
- Behold L.Ron Kovacs and the Holy Doctrine, and obey all His
- commandments, or face excommunication from the Holy Church of Znetology...
-
-
- Right...
-
- I hope that Ralph continues to use Qmail to capture any messages from
- this conference. I hope he continues to publish any message from this
- conference he feels like publishing. I hope he continues to make you look
- like a fool. I hope this message ends up in STReport...
-
- This or any other Fnet conference cannot be copyrighted as they are
- freely networked and, any user can do what he likes with any and all
- messages found in public conferences on a public bbs.
-
- Unless you delete every node in this conference, I don't see how you
- are going to stop anyone from capturing these messages, and doing what
- they like with them.
-
- John @ Turbo Board Support 416-274-1225 Turbonet 100:3/0 Fnet 18
-
-
-
- From GEnie
-
- Category 7, Topic 14
- Message 19 Tue Apr 14, 1992
- JEFF.W [ST Sysop] at 16:21 EDT
-
- I just downloaded and read Doyle Helm's two part review of Silhouette in
- the past couple of issues of STReport. I strongly suggest that anyone
- looking for more information on Silhouette and a hands-on guided tour of
- the program to do likewise. Doyle has done a nice job on the product
- overview.
-
- STR814.LZH is file #23552. STR815.LZH is file #23655.
-
- Ralph, are there more segments of the Silhouette review coming in the next
- few issues of STReport? While the overview of the product is covered very
- nicely, the review doesn't go deep enough (for me) into the actual
- performance of the program. I assume (uh-oh!) <grin> this is due to space
- considerations. I'd like to see some real world examples of how Doyle has
- tested the program, how fast it performed, how good the results were, how
- is the learning curve, etc.
-
- I can appreciate the difficulty of doing a review of a full-bodied product
- like Silhouette without turning over an entire issue or two over to a
- comprehensive and exhaustive review. But additional segments that go into
- more detail spanning future issues would be great!
-
- Editor Note:
- Jeff... there will definately be further segments to Mr. Helms' review of
- Tim Reyes' Silhouette.
-
-
-
- From the FNET
-
- Conf : Atari Technical
- Msg# : 9975/9987 Lines: Extended Read: 2
- Sent : Apr 13, 1992 at 06:30 AM
- To : All
- From : Clemens Chin at Fnet Node 467, SHERWOOD FOREST
- Subj : TT Tower & TOS 3.06/AJAX
-
-
- Well, I finally put my TT into a tower case (along with my external
- floppy drive and SyQuest drive). Instead of picking up a clone case, I
- decided to pick up a case specificly designed for the TT from a company in
- London (the case is made by a German company). I was lucky enough to
- track down a set of the TOS 3.06/AJAX/1.44 floppy upgrade at the same
- time. Here's a review of my new "T^3"...
-
- Installing the TT into the tower case was pretty much straight foward
- and self explainitory (luckily since the english documentation wasn't
- complete and I had half of the english docs and the german docs)... The
- case includes a board that allows users to connect additional floppy
- drives easily, adds an additional reset button to the front of the case
- and monitors the thermosensor (which continuously monitors the system for
- overheating).
-
- Towards the front of the case there is a bay for the original 3.5"
- hard drive (this bay is hidden, therefore, removable media will not be
- suitable for this bay). There are also 3 exposed bays. Here is where I
- put my new 1.44 meg floppy, 720 meg floppy and SyQuest mech. All bays are
- verticle.
-
- Installing the SyQuest was as simple as removing the old 50 pin ribbon
- cable and replacing it with a longer one with an additional IDE plug. TOS
- 3.06 and AJAX went in within minutes. No problems at all.
-
- II. Power Supply
-
- Though everything is working flawlessly after running this set up for
- four days non-stop, the power supply concerns me. Everything is powered
- by the original TT power supply. It is rated at 64.6 watts (not much at
- all). Still, it seems to be handling everything nicely; two floppies, a
- hard drive, a SyQuest, an ST RAM board and a TT RAM board.
-
- III. Future Upgrades
-
- This case definitely has room for upgrading. The manufacturer of the
- case even has an option for an internal VME card cage (with its own power
- supply), Octobus (adds ability to drive up to four floppies, monitor
- switching, bi-directional printer buffer and system protection) and power
- outlets for 4 additional external peripherals (sort of like having a power
- strip on your tower, no power surge supression though).
-
- IV. Fit & Finish
-
- The fit and finish is EXCELLENT. The holes for the TT's ports in the
- rear are a perfect, vergin fit. Access to the Lan prt, Midi port,
- Cartridge port and original reset button are not lost as opposed to going
- with a clone case. Adding any of the above mentioned upgrades would
- require prying off of part of the metal casing.
-
- At 20" high x 6" wide x 16" deep, this case is not small. But it has
- reduced to footprint of my original set up considerably (as well as
- reduced the number of cables and power cords behind my desk). Also, the
- case is very sturdy.
-
- V. Problems and Difficulties
-
- None! Installation went perfectly, the most difficult part being,
- trying to align the drives so that the face plates are flush with the face
- plate of the case!
-
- Having done T16 upgrades, TOS upgrades, etc. Installation of the new
- TOS 3.06 and AJAX were a snap.
-
- I am also happy to announce that there is absolutely no visible RF
- interference with the monitor as I had with the original TT case.
-
- VI. Performance
-
- Everything is performing as it should, no problems anywhere. Even
- after continuous use (without powering down for four days), no heat
- problems, no power problem, nothing.
-
- TOS 3.06 is great, AJAX is excellent and the case is superb.
-
- The case was flat out expensive. It cost 145 pounds (1 pound=$1.70,
- estimate). Was it worth it? Well, I'm in love, so, I say "YES!" (You
- don't know how long I've been trying to clear the clutter and cables from
- my desk!)
-
- TOS 3.06/AJAX/1.44 floppy cost me $185. Was it worth it? No doubts
- about it! Selling my old hard drive case, floppy drive, etc. should
- reduce the cost somewhat...
-
- Interested in the case? (ST/Mega/STe/MSTe versions available)
- Contact:
- System Solutions
- 19 Sumner Workshops
- 80 Sumner Road
- London SE15 6LA UK
-
- Phone: 753-832212
-
- Looking for TOS(2.06/3.06)/AJAX/1.44 floppy upgrade?
- Contact:
- Best Electronics
- 2021 The Alameda, Suite 290
- San Jose, CA 95126
-
- Phone: (408)243-6950
-
-
- From GEnie
-
- Category 4, Topic 11
- Message 149 Fri Apr 17, 1992
- J.ALLEN27 [FAST TECH] at 00:55 EDT
-
- I've decided to let people who want 50Mhz chips for sure go get them
- from a mail order source. We'll knock $95 off the Tiny030 price for those
- who supply thier own 030 chip. We'll also test your chip for you right
- away so you know you got a good one. Just buy it...$130? great...and send
- it in, we'll test it immediately, then put it aside for your unit. We'll
- also cover the unit including the chip under the normal warranty. How's
- that for flexibility?
-
- All 50Mhz 030 equipped units will ship at 50Mhz, we've thoroughly
- tested the design now at 50, so away we go!!
-
- Further tuning report...Turbo030 running at 40Mhz:
-
- NBM mem = 1.78
- math = 2.23
- dial = 5.05
- graf = 10.83
-
- QI 2.2
- memory 1110
- reg 1024
- div 1268
- shf 4457
- txt 1084
- str 5053
- scr 160
- draw 1792
-
- Dynacadd 3D cup.... 30 secs
-
- Nevin's Pagestream test:
- 8Mhz ST.........161 secs
- 32Mhz TT..........31 secs
- 40Mhz Turbo030-4..20 secs
- 50Mhz Turbo030-4..16 secs
-
- I still need to get the blitter talking to the 32bit ram, page mode
- turned on, and the 32bit video turbocharging on. Also need to test my
- "rom-ram" utility. Should be a long weekend ;-)
-
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- SPECIAL PURCHASE! * LPS 120 - 240 * Hard Disk Mechanisms
- Call for SUPER PRICING!! Limited Time Only!!
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- FULLY ASSEMBLED SCSI DRIVES DEDUCT $60.00
- ADD $35.00 for 4 BAY SUPER CABINET w/250+w PS
- EXOTIC TOWER CABINETS AVAILABLE Call for Info!
- PLEASE NOTE: The above is partial listing only!
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- FAST TECHNOLOGY ACCELERATOR UPGRADES AVAILABLE & INSTALLED
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- >> ABCO proudly offers ATARI PRODUCTS <<
- Call for ABCO's * HIGHLY COMPETITIVE PRICING! *
- ATARI COMPUTERS * STILL THE BEST VALUE!
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- Original Atari Mouse replacement: $35.00 NEW!
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- If you don't see what you want listed here, call us.
- Odds are, we either have it or, can get it for you!
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- "WE SERVICE WHAT WE SELL"
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- ****** SPECIAL - SPECIAL ******
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- * SYQUEST 44MB (#555) >> ABCOFILE "44" << REMOVABLE MEDIA DRIVE *
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- - SYQUEST 44 MB DRIVE - ICD ST ADSCSI PLUS H/A
- - ICD Utility Software - 3' DMA Cable
- - Fan & Clock - Multi-Unit Power Supply
- (1) 44 MB Syquest Cart.
- --->> SPECIAL! NOW ONLY __$ 639.00__ <<---
- **** SCSI UNITS -> ONLY $529.00 ****
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- WE PAY SHIPPING & INSURANCE! >UPS!<
- (Cont. USA)
- COMPLETELY ASSEMBLED AND READY TO RUN!
- Cart and Utility Software Included!
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- EXTRA CARTS: $ 69.50
- DRIVE MECH ONLY: $ 339.95
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- ****** SPECIAL - SPECIAL ******
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- * TWIN SYQUEST 44MB REMOVABLE MEDIA DRIVES ... PROGRAMMER'S DELIGHT *
- SPECIALLY PRICED ** $895.95.00 **
- Includes: * TWO * cartridges!
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- * SYQUEST 44MB REMOVABLE MEDIA DRIVE AND HARD DRIVE COMBINATIONS *
- - Syquest 44 Model [555] and the following hard drives -
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- ** 50mb SQG51S $759.00 105mb SQG105S $959.00 **
- Or, YOUR choice of Hard Disk Mechanism!
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- LOWBOY - STANDARD - DUAL BLOWER CABINETS
- CUSTOM CONFIGURATIONS AVAILABLE
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- ** ANNOUNCING THE NEW! -> ABCO CD-ROM! **
- :Special Introductory offer:
- ABCO CD-ROM $359.95 (limited time only)
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- Listed above are a sampling of the systems available.
- Prices also reflect various cabinet/power supply configurations
- (over sixty configurations are available, flexibility is unlimited)
- * IBM - MSDOS - AMIGA - ATARI - APPLE - MACINTOSH *
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- ALL UNITS COMPATIBLE WITH --> SUPERCHARGER - AT/PC SPEED - GCR
- LARGER units are available - (Custom Configurations)
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- *>> NO REPACKS OR REFURBS USED! <<*
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- - Custom Walnut WOODEN Cabinets - TOWER - AT - XT Cabinets -
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- Atari SLM 804, SLM 804PCV Laser Toner Kits
- Memorex 2108, 5287
- Oasys Laserpro 5287, 5308, Express 830, Express Series II
- Silver Express, Gold Express
- ** $41.95 shipping Included **
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- Atari SLM 605 Laser Toner Kits
- AT&T 593, CAF Laser, DSI Laser, DTP Systems, Epson EPL-6000
- Facit P6060, Fontx Syslaser, Harris3M 2006, M-Tally MT905
- Microtek Turbo PS, OAS Laserpro Executive, Packard Bell 9500
- TEC LB 1305, Toshiba PageLaser 6
- ** $41.95 shipping included **
- (TWO Toner Carts Incl.)
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- Panasonic Laser Toner Kits
- Panasonic KX -P 400 series, Panafax UF-750 Facsimile
- ** $41.95 shipping included **
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- -- ALL TONER KITS * IN STOCK * --
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- * Toner Starter Kits-$62.95 *
- * Replacement (804) Drums-$186.95 *
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- ABCO is PROUD to announce the acquisition of
- the exclusive U.S.A. distribution rights for
- ** Bitblit Software's; ///Turbo Board BBS. **
- This fine Atari ST BBS system software and
- user support is available through ABCO to all
- Turbo customers in the USA. Call for current
- pricing.
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- >> MANY other ATARI related products STOCKED <<
- ALL POWER SUPPLIES UL APPROVED
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- -* 12 month FULL Guarantee *-
- (A FULL YEAR of COVERAGE)
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- WE PAY SHIPPING & INSURANCE! >UPS!<
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- QUANTITY & USERGROUP DISCOUNTS AVAILABLE!
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- DEALERS and DISTRIBUTORS WANTED!
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- CALL: 1-800-562-4037 -=**=- CALL: 1-904-783-3319
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