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From: David Crouch <dcrouch@erols.com>
Subject: (ztt) Metaforce downloads
Date: 02 May 1999 16:04:48 -0400
Fans,
The video preview and a Roni Size remix of Metaforce are now available
on http://www.theartofnoise.com
The Trevor Horn and Lol Creme KCRW 4/26/99 interview is available in
RealAudio at
http://www.kcrw.org/cgi-bin/db/kcrw.pl?show_code=mb&air_date=4/26/99&guest_name=Trevor+Horn+and+Lol+Creme&tmplt_type=show
Enjoy,
Dave
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From: Adeheathen@aol.com
Subject: (ztt) early days anyone ?
Date: 03 May 1999 12:18:58 EDT
Hello,
I just joined the list to ask a couple of "favours".
1) does anyone have or know the availability of the video of the ZTT concert
at Ambassadors Theatre ? I had to leave early to get the coach back to Brum
you know.
2) does anyone have tapes of propaganda gigs in Hammersmith Palais (or the
german dates from around the same time) ?
I had most of that early ZTT stuff, but lost interest after Das Psychoh
Rangers (for some reason).
Ta.
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From: "John Michael Goelzer" <john.goelzer@mixcom.com>
Subject: (ztt) hear(s) the new Art of Noise album
Date: 05 May 1999 20:53:19 -0500
Since I've finally gotten my hands on an advance copy of "The Seduction of
Claude Debussy" (thanks Phobrek!), I'll be broadcasting it in its
entirety tomorrow morning (Thursday 5/5/99) between the hours of 6:00 am and
9:00 am Central Standard Time interspersed with other tracks (remixes
mostly) that showcase the studio wizardry of Trevor Horn.
To tune in from anywhere in the world using RealPlayer G2 (or, if you must,
Windholes Media Player), tap on http://www.wmse.org/ and follow the link at
the top of the page to the live feed.
(Of course, if you're within a 20-mile (or so - I'm guessing) radius of
downtown Milwaukee, you can hear it at 91.7 FM.)
Enjoy!
JG
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From: John McCormick <jdmcc@cwcom.net>
Subject: (ztt) 2tribes v bbc
Date: 06 May 1999 22:19:48 +0100
Dear ztters,
Does anyone remember a TV programme back in the early 1980's ('83 ish I
guess) which was a programme about Computing. It was presented by someone
called Chris Searle, and I think it was done by the BBC as it kept going
on about BBC B's which are (now) old computers still used by some schools.
The point being is that I want to know if I am right in thinking that the
music they used for it was a variation on FGTH's 'Two Tribes'.
I've wanted to know the answer to this question for a long while (many
years); I was only a young nipper at the time, but the music to this
programme I find had even then been lodged in my brain!
I'd appreciate any thoughts/reflections.
Thanks!
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From: Ian Peel <ian@nutopia.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: (ztt) AON: Tripping on Lol & J.J.
Date: 07 May 1999 08:47:01 +0100
Juno Jackson <noisewerker@hotmail.com> writes:
>3) Since Ian Peel decided to provide as little useful information
>possible in his DJ Magazine article (please Ian, don't take this
>the wrong way; I don't mean any offense by this, but I do think that a
>lot of important questions were left unanswered) , can someone give
>any insight as to why J.J. Jeczalik didn't return for this project
Well I didn't take offence, but I am mystified - I only finished writing
the Art of Noise articles for DJ mag (and sister mag EQ) this week and
posted them to the editors yesterday... So how you can comment on their
content is beyond me!
Perhaps you thought that the simple, intentionally cryptic Q&A I posted
to the list a few weeks ago (the day after the interview were recorded)
was in fact the actual article!! Unlikely, but this is the only
explanation I can think of for your mystical visions of the future...
Suffice to say that many of the 'hot' questions ARE answered in my
articles, but DJ mag and EQ now own the copyright to these - so I'm not
likely to be posting them to the list now am I?!
But thanks, James S. for your "pearls in a stagnant pond". Quite right.
Trading futures,
Ian Peel
http://welcome.to/the.world.of.ian.peel (is under construction)
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From: "Juno Jackson" <noisewerker@hotmail.com>
Subject: (ztt) AON: Ian Peel and the May issues of DJ /EQ Magazine
Date: 07 May 1999 10:13:55 PDT
To the list :
I would like to express my apologies to Sir Peel (you were right in your
mail that you sent me !) . I mistook his article "preview posting" as most
of what I thought was going to be included in his articles for the
respective magazines. I am truly sorry. He said that he just finished the
final copies and sent them into the editors(I was wondering why the hell I
couldn't find the new issues; do you have the street date on those Ian ? ).
By the way Ian, how do you feel about this project compared to the sediment
expressed in the AON RIP article that you published quite a ways back (It
definitely seems that one would be excited) ???
Sincerely,
Noise Werker
(Kraftwerk & AON FOREVER !!!)
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From: Phil Stubbs <phil@dreams.u-net.com>
Subject: (ztt) Dreams: Propaganda 1985
Date: 07 May 1999 22:37:33 +0000
I will, over the next few months, be placing a great deal of
Propaganda-related text, images and personal recollections from c. 1985 onto
the web. Please let me know if any/most of this is already out there...
Phil
* Mabuse
Smash Hits interview - 1984
NME Gossip - Thein leaves - 24 November 1984
NME Gossip - 'Paul marries Bombshell' - 23 Feb 1985
* Ambassadors Theatre Concert
* Duel/Jewel
NME ad 20 April 1985
NME review - 4 May 1985
NME interview - 25 May 1985
Smash Hits competition 5 Jun 1985
Smash Hits interview with Claudia alone
Smash Hits review
No. 1 letter - Jun 29 1985
Smash Hits interview with Band
* A Secret Wish
NME Album review - 6 July 1985
Singalongapropaganda Advert in NME 6 July 1985
Smash Hits review
* P: Machinery
Smash Hits review - August 1985
NME photo - 3 August 1985
'Heart of Glass' NME cover and interview - 24 August 1985
NME Review - 3 August 1985
'Friends or Foes' No. 1 cover and interview - 24 August 1985
The Face advert - August 1985
NME advert - 3 August 1985
* Wishful Thinking
NME review - 23 November 1985
They read books, too? - The Guardian interview
NME advert 16 November 1985
* P: Machinery - re release
NME Review of rerelease - 7 December 1985
NME advert of release - 7 December 1985
* Tour
NME first news - 5 October 1985
NME tour kick off - 26 Oct 1985
NME - Then Jericho advert (Propaganda support)
NME review - 23 November 1985
NME vs Kevin Armstrong feud - 7 December 1985
NME ad: Salford - issue dated 26 Oct 1985
NME ad: Hammersmith Palais gig - issue dated 9 Nov 1985
Tour program
Tour T-Shirt (photo of)
Post 1985
Record Mirror - 15 Feb 1986
Propaganda Fan Club Letter 14 March 1986
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From: Phil Stubbs <phil@dreams.u-net.com>
Subject: Re: (ztt) 2tribes v bbc
Date: 07 May 1999 22:56:48 +0000
At 22:19 6/5/99 +0100, you wrote:
>
>Does anyone remember a TV programme back in the early 1980's ('83 ish I
>guess) which was a programme about Computing. It was presented by someone
>called Chris Searle, and I think it was done by the BBC as it kept going
>on about BBC B's which are (now) old computers still used by some schools.
>The point being is that I want to know if I am right in thinking that the
>music they used for it was a variation on FGTH's 'Two Tribes'.
>I've wanted to know the answer to this question for a long while (many
>years); I was only a young nipper at the time, but the music to this
>programme I find had even then been lodged in my brain!
>I'd appreciate any thoughts/reflections.
>
I do remember the Chris Searle computer program (Sunday mornings on BBC1),
but I'm pretty sure there was no Two Tribes-related theme, though that's no
proof. I can't believe those old computers are still in use. One BBC
technology progam I do remember that had a ZTT connection (and I still have
on video tape) was a Tomorrow's World special presented by Howard Stableford
(sp?) dedicated to electronic music, including a feature on Claudia Brucken,
Thomas Leer and Stephen Lipson putting Snobbery and Decay together.
Phil
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From: Lazlo Nibble <lazlo@studio-nibble.com>
Subject: Re: (ztt) 2tribes v bbc
Date: 08 May 1999 15:12:34 -0600
On Fri, May 07, 1999 at 10:56:48PM +0000, Phil Stubbs wrote:
> I do remember the Chris Searle computer program (Sunday mornings on BBC1),
> but I'm pretty sure there was no Two Tribes-related theme, though that's no
> proof. I can't believe those old computers are still in use.
I has the privilege of checking out some of Vince Clarke's gear when Erasure
were touring last time around and was very surprised to discover that the
entire show was sequenced off an old BBC micro (I'd never even seen one
before, since they never got over here to the states).
Apparently he has a spare for hot-swap purposes, just in case. :-)
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From: "Mark Humphrey" <Mhumph@tesco.net>
Subject: Re: (ztt) 2tribes v bbc
Date: 09 May 1999 21:50:41 +0100
>----- Original Message -----
>From: John McCormick <jdmcc@cwcom.net>
>Subject: (ztt) 2tribes v bbc
>
> Dear ztters,
>
> Does anyone remember a TV programme back in the early 1980's ('83 ish I
> guess) which was a programme about Computing.
I think this may be of help
>From http://www.havaccnt.demon.co.uk/hac/MicroLive.html
'The first BBC Micro made its debut in 1982 on the BBC's "The Computer
Program." It was anticipated that total sales to be in the reagion of 12,000
units. Sales eventually exceeded 1 million computers. The BBC micro was also
used for another BBC computer programs like "Making the Most of the Micro"
and "Micro Live". '
Also check out the entry in TV Cream: http://tv.cream.org/arkm1.htm
I remember the Program with Chris Serle but not it's theme tune. The theme
to Micro Live was Kraftwerk's Computer World.
Cheers
Mark
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From: "Luciano" <luque@tising.es>
Subject: (ztt) Propaganda stuff
Date: 11 May 1999 00:54:35 +0200
>I will, over the next few months, be placing a great deal of
>Propaganda-related text, images and personal recollections from c. 1985
onto
>the web. Please let me know if any/most of this is already out there...
Hi
Where are you going to place all that stuff? url?
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Flexxtropia/Club de egipcios /Tecno-Trash/ Malaria/ Plantas de Interior/
http://www.geocities.com/WestHollywood/Village/6403/index.html
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From: John McCormick <jdmcc@cwcom.net>
Subject: (ztt) 2tribes
Date: 11 May 1999 22:29:12 +0100
Hi ztters,
Thanks to Robert/Phil/Lazlo who have so far replied to my enquiry, and
which have been noted with interest.
Phil, was that TW programme (indeed Howard 'Stableford') the one with the
Kraftwerk dummies featured on it? If so, I remember it vaguely.
As for sequencing on a BBC micro! (Lazlo) I have an Atari ST and I
thought THAT was due for a pension! :)
I intend to edit a section of FGTH's 'Two Tribes' together with a bit of
my own keyboard playing in order create an idea of how this theme tune
sounded. It may even jog a few more memories?!
I will attach it as a .WAV file, and keep it small.
Coming to you soon.
John M.
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From: Phil Stubbs <phil@dreams.u-net.com>
Subject: (ztt) Propaganda stuff
Date: 11 May 1999 23:03:45 +0100
>>I will, over the next few months, be placing a great deal of
>>Propaganda-related text, images and personal recollections from c. 1985
>>onto the web. Please let me know if any/most of this is already out there...
>
>Where are you going to place all that stuff? url?
>
I have created a site at the following address for the proposed set of web
pages dedicated to Propaganda in 1985:
http://www.smart.co.uk/dreams/propaganda/
I've put a few things on there - an interview from teen mag No. 1 and a
couple of covers. The content and design of the site will develop over the
next few months or so.
Check into the main Dreams site if you are a fan of writer, director and
animator Terry Gilliam:
http://www.smart.co.uk/dreams/propaganda/
Phil
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From: Markus Arnold <markus@cable.a2000.nl>
Subject: (ztt) 808 State US Newbuild
Date: 12 May 1999 23:33:14 +0200
Has anyone stateside already picked up the Newbuild LP or CD yet? They were
supposedly released yesterday. I am trying to find out if they are actually
manufactured in the US and not just a distribution of the UK pressing.
Trainspotting, I know...
Thanks
Markus
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From: Christopher Robin Zimmerman <kzim@kzim.com>
Subject: (ztt) Extra Newbuild CD for sale - and postscripts
Date: 15 May 1999 09:21:31 -0700 (PDT)
I ended up with two Newbuild CD's, so I'm selling my extra.
$11 including shipping anywhere in America.
Not much of a deal but better than the $19.99 CDNow's offering. :)
I'll put it up on Ebay if I don't get any takers, so don't feel like you
HAVE to buy it...
Thanks,
CRZ
PS Has my Newbuild LP plunged in value now that it's been rereleased?
PPS Anybody sprung for the triple LP? I almost did, then decided it was
a bit excessive. :) Maybe I've missed out but is this disc really
as crucial as the new liner notes make it out to be? I never thought
that much of it...
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From: John McCormick <jdmcc@cwcom.net>
Subject: (ztt) BBC/Two Tribes Tune
Date: 16 May 1999 22:04:05 +0100
Dear ztt'ers,
You can go to
http://members.tripod.com/~jmccormick/fgth.htm
regarding my emails '2tribesvbbc', and listen to something i've (quickly)
put together.
More info is available on that page to read.
Please have a look, and have a listen!
Regards,
John M.
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From: Phil Stubbs <phil@dreams.u-net.com>
Subject: (ztt) Propaganda - Guardian interview
Date: 18 May 1999 21:34:05 +0100
http://www.smart.co.uk/dreams/propaganda/
Today I have added a new Propaganda interview from the Guardian - Autumn 1985
Phil
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From: "Mark Wasiel" <markw@pcmagic.net>
Subject: (ztt) Seal Live at the Virginmega.com party
Date: 20 May 1999 00:00:00 -0700
I had the lucky honor to go see Seal live at the http://virginmega.com party
last week. He did 3 songs and they were fantastic. Virgin has the real
audio/video up on their web site plus an interview so check it out. I think
it is mysteriously hidden under the "party" heading on the main page.
Overall, their web site looks pretty good but it's a little lacking in
catalog depth and music details compared to the other sites out there. It's
still pretty new though!
Btw, Seal sounded great!!
Mark W.
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From: "Mark Humphrey" <Mhumph@tesco.net>
Subject: (ztt) New artist?
Date: 20 May 1999 20:17:34 +0100
I've just heard about a potential new signing for ZTT. His name is Jordan
(yes a he, not the model of the same name) . I believe he's a soul singer
of sorts. A colleague of mine shares flat with his manager. They had a
meeting with TCH a couple of weeks back and apparently it was very
"positive". I'm currently trying to obtain a demo tape/cd.
More info when I get it........
Mark
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From: "Juno Jackson" <noisewerker@hotmail.com>
Subject: (ztt) INSTANT ORGASM (The Return of the Masters)
Date: 21 May 1999 12:02:46 PDT
Well, this is some BIG NEWS !!!!!
This may seem like bullshit to some, but there is a NEW KRAFTWERK ALBUM AND
SINGLE THAT WILL BE RELEASED ON 12/31/99 !!!!
According to VMI records, a Canadian record store, there are two new KW
releases that have been posted up the store's website.
You can check them out at the following addresses:
wmimusic.com
mail : wmi@wmimusic.com
Here is a bit more info :
New KW CD single
Japanese Import
Toshiba/EMI Records (TOCP 40022)
$13.90
New KW Album
Japanese Import
Toshiba/EMI Records (TOCP 50091)
$28.96
These are also listed at gemm.com . VMI is also a great place to find rare
Art of Silence, Yello, and Anne Dudley records as well as other extremely
hard to find imports, vinyl, CD's and video.
NOISEWERKER (a.k.a. "Juno Jackson") noisewerker@hotmail.com
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From: mike@hyperreal.org
Subject: (ztt) MP3 of 3 Seduction cuts available
Date: 21 May 1999 12:09:10 -0700 (PDT)
For those who can't wait or are not sure what to make of the mixed
reviews, I have encoded a 56 kbps / 22 kHz stereo MP3 of 3 tracks from the
12-track US promo CD of 'The Seduction of Claude Debussy':
rapt: in the evening air
metaforce
the holy egoism of genius
The file size is 6.4 MB. It is available for a limited time at this URL:
http://www.hyperreal.org/~mike/pub/secure/mp3/
Username: aon
Password: aon
I chose these 3 tracks because they are to my ears, representative of the
content and flow of the album as a whole. Surprisingly, the album version
of Metaforce is way better than the Roni Size remix.
I'll post a full review soon.
- Mike
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From: Dave Cowen <esch@fische.net>
Subject: (ztt) Vote for your favorites -- An Art of Noise Survey
Date: 21 May 1999 18:40:59 -0500
I'm a little bit cheesed off that the new Art of Noise web site seems to
pay short shrift to the China Art of Noise... and was thinking, I wonder
what the list members' true Art of Noise favorites are. So, in a fit of
fanboyism brough on by the new album, I drew up a brief Art of Noise survey.
Fill it out, send 'er back to me (and -not- the list), and I'll compile them
and post the results at the end of the month, Monday May 31st. I've listed
examples for most questions to give you an idea of valid responses, but
please feel free to veer off from the examples I've given.
Favorite Art of Noise full-length record:
(Examples: Who's Afraid, In No Sense? Nonsense!, The Seduction of Claude
Debussy)
Favorite Art of Noise 12", CD5 or EP:
(Examples: Into Battle, Close Up, That Was Close, Paranoimia 12", Dream On)
Favorite overall Art of Noise track:
(Choose any song recorded under the name Art of Noise)
Favorite Art of Noise album track:
(Examples: Beat Box (Diversion One), Close to the Edit, Peter Gunn, Metaforce)
Favorite Art of Noise remix:
(Examples: Closely Closely Enough's Enough, Close Up (Hop), Peter Gunn 12"
mix)
Favorite Art of Noise B-Side:
(Examples: Something Always Happens, A Nation Rejects, Hoops and Mallets)
Favorite Art of Noise member:
(Choices: Trevor, Anne, JJ, Paul, Gary, Lol)
Favorite Art of Noise collaborator:
(Examples: Duane Eddy, Matt Frewer [nee Headroom], Tom Jones, Claude Debussy)
Favorite Art of Noise Cover Art:
(Any format)
Favorite Art of Noise Liner Notes:
(Any format)
Favorite Art of Noise beat (give example with song name):
Favorite Art of Noise sample (describe):
Favorite album with Art of Noise as session musicians:
(Examples: Duck Rock, The Lexicon of Love, 90125, WttPleasure Dome, Duane
Eddy)
Favorite Trevor Horn produced non-AON track:
Favorite song where any member of the Art of Noise participated:
(Examples: Left to my own Devices, Crazy, tracks off Beauty Stab, etc.)
Favorite Art of Noise member "solo" album (ie, single member was primary
musician):
(Examples: Buggles records, Art of Silence, Songs from the Victorious City,
Ancient and Modern)
Favorite Art of Noise Remix Album:
(Choices: The Ambient Collection, the FON Mixes, The Drum n' Bass
Collection, None)
Favorite Art of Noise Configuration:
__ Trevor, Anne, JJ, Paul, Gary (early ZTT era)
__ Anne, JJ, Gary (early China era)
__ Anne & JJ (late China era)
__ Trevor, Anne, Paul and Lol (new ZTT era)
Worst Art of Noise full-length album
Worst Art of Noise track or remix:
Worst Art of Noise remix album:
Guilty Pleasure track ("nobody likes this one except me"):
Dave Cowen (esch@fische.net)
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From: "Juno Jackson" <noisewerker@hotmail.com>
Subject: (ztt) Art of Noise Video Broadcast at raveworld.net
Date: 22 May 1999 12:23:05 PDT
Hey Noisemakers !!!
Tonight, there will be an Art of Noise video broadcast showcasing the
history of the group and what's to come in the future. This video will be
broadcast at raveworld.net Also, if you sign up on their mailing list, you
will be elligible to win some Art of Noise goodies.
Unfortunately, I don't know what time this video will be shown at, so keep
your eyes peeled to the site !!!
Love you all,
Noise Werker
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From: MB <mazbass@icl-server.ucsd.edu>
Subject: (ztt) 808/Act/Art of noise and ZTT stuff for sale
Date: 23 May 1999 22:18:13 -0700
Hi all,
I have the following 808/AON/Act, etc items for sale, email me for shipping
rates or questions about any title. All prices are in US dollars.
ztt backtraxx US promo cd with AON, Frankie, 808 State and propaganda,
still sealed! Universal sampler--$12
art of noise "moments in love cd single (german pressing, 1984)" UK
cd5 15 VG
Locust Your Selfish Ways (808 state remixes, Boom Boom Satellites) UK
cd5 6 mint
Suns of Arqa Gouinda Go UK 12" (808 State remix) UK 12" 8 Mint
act-snobbery and decay 12" German pressing That's Entertainment! mix, plus
b-sides.
808 State Cubik 98 (US promo remix by V Calderone) US 12" promo 15
808 State MC Tunes: Primary Rhyming UK 12" remixes UK 12" 5 mint
808 State MC Tunes:Tunes Splits the Atom UK 12" remixes UK 12" 5 VG
808 State MC Tunes: North at its heights UK LP ZTT Records UK LP 5
808 State Sawnoff Dali PROMO double 10"" of tracks from Don Solaris. SAM
1821 mint condition, gatefold picture sleeve. Bind, Jerusahat, Banacheq,
Mooz " uk 2x10" promo 10 mint
808 State Cubik US white label Tommy Boy 12", Tommy Boy remix 9:30
and Lambrusco Cowboy mix US w/l 6 mint
808 State Gorgeous UK LP with free UK 12" of remixes UK 12" 12
808 state white label "sun arise" 808 state remix and dub UK 12" w/l
10 VG
Check this site out for more promos, 12"s, etc:
http://icl-server.ucsd.edu/~mazbass/odysseymusic.html
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Updated: 5/23/99!!
Art of Noise, 808 State, Pet Shop Boys, Erasure,
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BT, Depeche Mode, Massive Attack, Orbital
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From: "Robert Marston" <robert_marston@hotmail.com>
Subject: (ztt) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 09:54:56 GMT
Date: 25 May 1999 03:55:33 -0600
The ZTT shop appears to now be online. Shame there isn't anything 'that
little bit extra' available on it yet.
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From: "Juno Jackson" <noisewerker@hotmail.com>
Subject: (ztt) Metaforce Remix Contest
Date: 25 May 1999 13:21:40 PDT
There is a Metaforce remix competition at theartofnoise.com . The winner
will receive a limited edition AON box set. Also, the site mentions a single
that was recorded by AON in 1997 that was released under a different name.
Does anyone know if this record is still in print ? Where could I find it ?
NOISEWERKER
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From: John Goelzer <johng@engberganderson.com>
Subject: RE: (ztt) Metaforce Remix Contest
Date: 25 May 1999 15:36:51 -0500
All I know is that it was released under the artist name The Metaphor Tops.
I don't know in what quantities and formats it was issued, what exactly it
contained, or whether it's still available. In other words, all I know is
the name.
The few searches I've done for The Metaphor Tops have yielded nothing.
Anyone *ever* run across this thing? And if so, why haven't you MP3'd it
yet? Seems like the ideal candidate...
JG
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From: Juno Jackson [mailto:noisewerker@hotmail.com]
Subject: (ztt) Metaforce Remix Contest
There is a Metaforce remix competition at theartofnoise.com
. The winner
will receive a limited edition AON box set. Also, the site
mentions a single
that was recorded by AON in 1997 that was released under a
different name.
Does anyone know if this record is still in print ? Where
could I find it ?
NOISEWERKER
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From: John McCormick <jdmcc@cwcom.net>
Subject: (ztt) ZTT Sampled
Date: 27 May 1999 22:14:22 +0100
Hi ztt'ers!
I'm glad as a I've just layed my hands on a copy of 'Zang Tuum Tumb
Sampled' (or 'Zang Tumb Tuum Sampled' as it says on the cover!) with
songs from 1985/6 from Andrew Poppy/Anne Pigalle/Propaganda/etc; but I
guess you fellow ztt'ers already know what this is. :-)
I have a few questions about the 'album' as a result of listening to this
for the first time:
Q1:For those who have access to a copy:
At the beginning of 'Disneyland' by FGTH, there are some 'abstract
brass' sounds for the first few seconds. I notice these exact sounds are
also used in the 'quiet' middle section of Propaganda's 'Duel' - the
question is: which came first? (chicken or egg?)
Q2:For those who dont (or do):
What became of 'Instinct'?
Those ZTT/XL typos still make me laugh! Though perfect ellipses
everywhere. [chaos]
The sleeve quotes:
"1. The Post-AGE - Who even thinks to ask anymore - what becomes of the
work of art in the world of mass production? No: WHAT CAN ART WORK GIVE
the world of mass production?"
Indeed.
[I'm a graphic designer]
John M.
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// http://members.tripod.com/~jmccormick \\
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From: mike@hyperreal.org
Subject: (ztt) Review: new Art of Noise
Date: 27 May 1999 22:59:47 -0700 (PDT)
The Art of Noise, Trevor Horn's 1983 side project, was a novel
interpretation of a 70-year-old idea of an Italian Futurist by the name of
Luigi Russolo. To listen to Horn tell it, the success of the combination
of Yes and Frankie Goes to Hollywood session hands J.J. Jeczalik, Anne
Dudley, and Gary Langan, under Horn's direction and packaged by Paul
Morley, was a complete and total accident.
Gosh, we're pioneers with this new sampling technology? People are dancing
to "Beat Box"? "Close (to the Edit)" is an international hit? How could
this be?
Please. That 'Into Battle' and 'Who's Afraid' were clever, arty, yet
mostly accessible pieces of sample-based pop-dance by _design_ is obvious.
Yet despite Horn (and Dudley)'s oh-so-British faux naivete, the fact
remains: those two albums, and arguably the Horn-less "parody" that
followed ('In Visible Silence'), are of groundbreaking importance not just
in that they created palatable music from found, sampled sounds, but also
in that they did it so _well_. And the arrival of this non-band
foreshadowed a movement in electronic music that would lend new meaning to
the term "faceless", influencing generations to come.
While the Art of Noise had some fine moments after breaking with Horn's
ZTT label in the latter half of the 1980s, its members parted ways in
1990. By the time popular interest in electronic music was surging in the
mid-90s, Art of Noise had become synonymous with bland remix and
compilation albums issued by the China label after the band's dissolution.
Against the backdrop of this time that they had been ahead of, all of the
former members discussed at one point or another the possibility of
reforming, but it wasn't until Dudley and Horn worked on Marc Almond's
'Tenement Symphony' that a new Art of Noise was born, this time without
Jeczalik and now incorporating Lol Creme and Morley again in more
productive roles. Work began in 1996 and took over 2 years to complete.
One would hope that the fruit of this labor would be a kind of redemption
for the tarnished name of the Art of Noise, a bold return to new, untested
ideas, something that would be as exciting and fresh in 1999 as 'Into
Battle' was in 1983.
Well, 'The Seduction of Claude Debussy' is a reinvention, to be sure, and
in some ways it marks a return to some of the original concepts, but it is
not by any stretch as daring as the Art of Noise of old. Further
disappointing is that its creators are standing by the "we were good by
accident" rhetoric, dismissing the contrast between the new and the old as
a misunderstanding on the part of the fans as to what the Art of Noise was
really about all along.
On some levels, TSoCD is a triumph for Horn. It's clearly his baby, and
his high production values permeate every second of the album's 60 minutes
(or so; there are multiple mixes of the album in circulation already).
Dudley's string and piano arrangements, based on relatively unknown
Debussy compositions, swoop and swirl with grandeur around drum'n'bass
styled percussion patterns, Sally Bradshaw's operatic declarations and
John Hurt's narration about the life of Debussy that is so carefully
placed at the right moments in the album.
But the implication of such deliberate incorporation of each and every
element of sound leaves the listener feeling like the new Art of Noise is
now just all about technical perfection. Where's the accidental beauty in
that? For that matter, where's the _fun_? Never has an album so perfectly
produced by such talented people been so devoid of intensity. The new Art
of Noise is very Euro, very mild, even when hip-hop icon Rakim delivers a
surprisingly tolerable rap about Baudelaire, among other things, halfway
through the album ("Metaforce"). The drum'n'bass inspired moments have
half the drums and none of the bass that they should, and the closest
thing to a real mood in this epic is the all-too-brief ambient interlude
"out of this world (version 138)".
That said, one still comes away from this album with a sense of relief.
The Art of Noise are back and whether it was deliberate or not, they have
crafted a quality album that, while not living up to anyone's expectations
or being very much ahead of its time, is more cohesive than anything AoN
-- or very many other musicians, for that matter -- have ever done. It's
not without its moments, and there's a promise of more to come. Welcome
back. We're not afraid.
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From: Markus Arnold <markus@cable.a2000.nl>
Subject: (ztt) Trevor Horn, AON, 808
Date: 28 May 1999 23:24:06 +0200
My apologies if this has been mentioned before:
The July '99 edition of UK magazine 'The Mix' has a exclusive interview
with Trevor Horn in it. It seems to focus mainly on Art of Noise and the
new album.
On a different note: 808 State's Newbuild re-issue seems only to have been
imported by EVA/Caroline in the US, so it is not a US pressing.
Markus
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From: Matt West <mattwe@wrq.com>
Subject: (ztt) new to list - can help me find this promo album?...
Date: 28 May 1999 15:58:53 -0700
I'm trying to find the following on either cd, cdr, vinyl, or
cass...any help will be appreciated. Please email me privately.
Various: License to Thrill Soundtrack
[1989] promotional compilation album
CS: 1989 US (ZTT Records; KT 1)
7:51 Nasty Rox Inc.: Escape From New York
5:06 Nasty Rox Inc.: 9th Wonder
8:38 Nasty Rox Inc.: 10th Wonder
6:02 Nasty Rox Inc.: Wooba Wubbaa II
6:07 Hoodlum Priest: Crime Inc.
5:38 MC Tunes vs. 808 State: Dance Yourself to Death (exclusive mix)
4:46 Nasty Rox Inc.: Wooba Wubba I (plake)
5:01 Nasty Rox Inc.: Blow
5:57 808 State: Pacific
[Soundtrack to the Greg Stumpf ski film]
thanks,
matt
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