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ztt-digest          Monday, February 1 1999          Volume 02 : Number 084




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Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 14:24:01 GMT
From: "Robert Marston" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (ztt) P-Machinery

Does anyone know the meaning of the title P:Machinery??? I know what the
song's about but not the title.

I thought about it the other night and couldn't work it out.

Anyone in the know?

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Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 22:59:56 +0200
From: "Roger" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (ztt) P-Machinery

Here is my guess. There is a pawn on the cover of the single, and in chess,
P is the symbol for the pawn. So the meaning would be that we are all pawns
in a big machinery.
Then again, I could be wrong, and the sleeve is just a coincidence.

Roger



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Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 19:18:03 -0600
From: "John Michael Goelzer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (ztt) P-Machinery

Ah, but there's *another* 12" for P:Machinery with a pearl on the cover. So
while I think you're right about the connection between the pawn and the "P"
in the title, I tend to think that the title came first and the objects on
the sleeves came after. I say this, however, without any explanation of what
the title actually means. I've always wondered myself.

JG

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>From: "Roger" <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Re: (ztt) P-Machinery
>
> Here is my guess. There is a pawn on the cover of the single, and in chess,
> P is the symbol for the pawn. So the meaning would be that we are all pawns
> in a big machinery.
> Then again, I could be wrong, and the sleeve is just a coincidence.


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Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 23:37:57 EST
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Subject: Re: (ztt) P-Machinery

i always assumed that the "p" stood for propaganda...

propaganda:machinery

referring to the mechanisms of propaganda.

propaganda will give you the truth,
zteven


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Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 10:08:16 +0000
From: Andrew Robinson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (ztt) P-Machinery

John Michael Goelzer wrote:
>
> Ah, but there's *another* 12" for P:Machinery with a pearl on the cover.

and one with a sofa for that matter....

> So
> while I think you're right about the connection between the pawn and the "P"
> in the title, I tend to think that the title came first and the objects on
> the sleeves came after. I say this, however, without any explanation of what
> the title actually means. I've always wondered myself.

I'd originally assumed it was to differentiate it from another song called
'machinery', rather like 'close to the edit' avoiding the more obvious title
'close to the edge' because of the album of that name by Yes.

I'd guessed that the P stood for Propaganda, until I read somehwere about a
computer language (the name of which ecapes me - possibly lisp?) that uses
'p-' to indicate a query... does anyone know more about this possibility?

- - Andy R.




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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 23:22:37 -0800
From: "Karl Hirschberger (Intl Vendor)" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (ztt) ZTT: New Propaganda Internet Site

Hi all,

A new Praopaganda related site is in the net:

UNOFFICIAL PROPAGANDA HOMEPAGE:
http://come.to/propaganda.de or
http://home.t-online.de/home/propaganda.de

The site isn`t 100 percent ready and will be completetd as soon as possible,
but I hope you enjoy it.

Bye
Karl


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