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ztt-digest            Monday, March 9 1998            Volume 02 : Number 024




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Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 09:02:13 +0100 (MET)
From: Soeren Larsen <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (ztt) Soren's fantastic mp3!

OK. Here's a translation:



It may sound like Trevor Horn used a massive selection of different
effects on this track. But most of them is en fact sampled from an old
jazz funk record called Kool Is Back made by a band called Funk Inc. For
sure one of the World Famous Supream Teams favorite breaks from their
radio show. Originally it sounds like this....


It's this break that has delivered the incredibly shape trumpet sound as
we heard as the intro [???] of Owner of a Lonely Heart. And it the same
loop that used on the incredibly effective break down in the middle of the
track. It's this I'm talking about....


Then Trevor was ready to make this almost genius engineering musical
piece he faced a single problem. As you remember his very primitive
sampler was only able to sample one second at a time [he told earlier]. So
forget everything about looping drum beats as you would have done at this
time here in the 90'es. Instead he took three small pieces of the Funk
Inc. beat. The trumpet as you heard before....


A one second piece of the drums which sounds like this....


And another piece of the drums which sounds like this....


And when he connected these three pieces together it sounded like this....


Errr perhaps not that impressive. But if you own good creative skills of
using different effects, reverb and compressors. Then you can make the
beat sound like a lot more. I gave our technician Peter an hour to play
with the sounds. And I'm sure that Trevor Horn spend several days on the
thing. But in just an hour it's possible to make it sound like this....




PS. Kool Is Back is from an LP titled Funk Inc. released in 1971 on Prestige.
Who wouldn't love to have a copy.


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Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 11:29:24 -0700 (MST)
From: "Lazlo Nibble" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (ztt) Supreme Records

> What I'm wondering (as I don't have too much background knowledge) is
> whether this label has (or has had) anything to do with ZTT?
> I ask this because this (cassette) issue is 'ZCSU2', and I know that the
> Propaganda 'A Secret Wish' cassette is 'ZCIQ3'...Is there any
> relationship between the two as I know that usually no two different
> labels have the same numbering system.

Is there any indiction as to whether the Mel & Kim album was distributed by
Island?

- --
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Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 16:30:36 +0100
From: Andy Robinson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (ztt) Supreme Records

graphicdesignstudent'98 wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
> Does anyone out there know the Label 'Supreme Records'?

It was the in-house label of 80s production team Stock Aitken & Waterman
- - famed for churning out hit records at an alarming rate for a vast
number of artists of dubious talent... they wrote No.1 hits for Kylie
Minogue, Jason Donovan, their studio tea boy Rick Astley, etc.

> I've just bought second-hand for a few pounds the Mel & Kim
> album F.L.M. ...This album has great characteritic sounds from the
> Fairlight sequencer

Actually, the sounds shared with ZTT are mostly PPG Waveterm samples (if
my ears don't decieve me) - another 8-bit sampler of extreme age & cost.
Also, the Roland 727 drum machine which was heavily used on "Watching
the Wildlife" was also a favourite of S.A.W.

> What I'm wondering (as I don't have too much background knowledge)
> is whether this label has (or has had) anything to do with ZTT?

Well, apart from them both essentially being outlets for a production
team rather than a roster of artistes, the strongest connection that I
know of is that the first ever Stock, Aitken Waterman track was "The
Upstroke" by Agents Aren't Aeroplanes - which had a cover mimicking the
Relax "Two Bodies" picture, but featuring the 2 girls in the band.

> I ask this because this (cassette) issue is 'ZCSU2', and I know that
> the Propaganda 'A Secret Wish' cassette is 'ZCIQ3'...Is there any
> relationship between the two?

This is probably just a coincidence.

- - andy R.


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Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 12:22:33 +0100
From: "Henrik Lundstrom" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (ztt) Supreme Records

> > I've just bought second-hand for a few pounds the Mel & Kim
> > album F.L.M. ...This album has great characteritic sounds from the
> > Fairlight sequencer
>
> Actually, the sounds shared with ZTT are mostly PPG Waveterm samples (if
> my ears don't decieve me) - another 8-bit sampler of extreme age & cost.
> Also, the Roland 727 drum machine which was heavily used on "Watching
> the Wildlife" was also a favourite of S.A.W.

You can hear the PPG on a lot of ZTT stuff, often superbly programmed
by Andy Richards (I've got a PPG Waveterm B, and I recognise many of
the factyory sounds). SAW used the PPG in their pre-fairlight (ie
pre-1987) days. A lot of Fairlight CMI Series III samples can also
be heard on both ZTT and SAW productions (I will soon get a new HD to
the CMI, end then I can check the whole sound library). Another
common machine is the Linndrum - haevily used on both SAW and ZTT
recordings.

h.


Henrik Lundstroem ([e-mail])


  Chemistry student at Chalmers University of Technology.

  Stalivari shout "HEUREKA!!" as the signal for invention par excellence

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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 11:20:11 +100
From: "Till Teuber" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (ztt) Holly live at G.A.Y

Holly has been singing live in London's Astoria G.A.Y Nightclub on
Febuary 14th '98 (Valentines Night).
It was hillarious atmosphere, over 2000 people where chereing Holly
on: "HOLLY, HOLLY!", when he left the stage after 6 songs.
He startetd of with "Love Train", folowed by "Americanos" and "The
Power of Love". Encores: "RELAX!", "Two Tribes"  and finaly
"Legendary Children (all of them queer)"!

Don`t miss his next P.A. will be in the german nightclub KOENIGSBERG
in KREFELD (near Cologne/Duesseldorf; Germany).

Till


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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 07:58:38 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (ztt) More Claudia info

     Hello everyone;

     I was exploring the web today, and came across the following URL:

     http://www.kgb.co.uk/~skuds/spizz/ssinbala.html



     Apparently Claudia did vocals on a song called "In Balance" with a
     group called Lifestyle back in 1994.  I don't recall seeing anything
     about this in the discography.

     Does anyone know anything about this??

     As if there weren't already enough obscure Claudia recordings to
     chase, now it appears there's another one.


     Mike



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Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 10:28:24 +0000 (GMT)
From: "simon.wade" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (ztt) welcome to me!

I don't know how many other ztt fans there are out there, but 'hello'
none-the-less!

I'm a mature student at The University of Sunderland, my hometown in
north-east England.

Back in '84, I was crazy for FGTH, and that lead me on to Propaganda and
all things ZTT. I still play all their stuff at home!

Currently, I'm doing an essay on the ausio-visual experience that is the
video for Two tribes - one of the most powerful and compelling clips ever
produced. Godley and Creme at their best!

If any of you guys n gals have any interesting facts / theories or just
plain trivia about the video, would you get back to me so I can bolster
my assignment? At the moment, it just reads like a crazy fan writing an
appreciation of FGTH!!

regards and respect

simon w



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