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DIGEST #70, 6-26-95
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From rp16+@andrew.cmu.edu Thu Jun 22 17:39:50 1995
Subject: Re: ZORN DIGEST #68
>Sahar-The Moan
I believe that Sahar actually means "moon"
Ralph
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From jeffs@bgsuvax.bgsu.edu Thu Jun 22 21:22:12 1995
Subject: Giant Robot
I ordered Giant Robot from CD-Now last night. It was ridiculously
overpriced, even by their standards. Anyway, I'll let you know if it ever
shows up.
Also, I picked up Henry Kaiser's Hope You Like Our New Direction which
features Buckethead on one track & makes pretty clear (in case there was
any doubt) that Buckethead is (or maybe was) Brian Carroll. I wasn't very
impressed by the duo, but I'll buy just about anything with Buckethead on
it, though I've resisted the Company CDs, at least so far.
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From jeff@shop.internet.net Fri Jun 23 10:43:44 1995
Subject: Re: Buckethead
>Thanks for the info Jeff. I think Buckethead is a tremendous talent with lots
>of untapped potential. I know a somewhat famous musician who has recorded with
>him. My contact says that he (Buckethead) is a bit eccentric and kinda weird.
I have heard the opposite from people who know him, that despite the image
he presents, he is more or less a SoCal surfer dude.
>Of course its all within the eyes of the beholder. Anyway, I was wondering why
>he doesn't guest star or even record a little more within the mainstream. I'm
I think he likes doing other stuff. He could certainly be the next Eddie
Van Halen if he really wanted to be.
>not saying he should join "Poison" or Megadeath.. Some of the stuff I've heard
>(I'm talking solo projects) seems to be unfocused and downright silly. As if
>he picked up the guitar and had no idea what he was about to do. Some would
>call this improvisation..... The results don't always make sense. Just
The album that generates this type of comment is _Bucketheadland_, which is
supposed to be a soundtrack for a non-existent movie. Within that context
it works, but I would agree that that album doesn't bear up to repeated
listenings. Nothing else would fit this, although he gets a little silly
on _Giant Robot_.
Check out _Octave of the Holy Innocents_ to hear a side of Buckethead that
most people know nothing about. He plays only acoustic guitar and it's an
awesome piece of work.
>curious.... I also heard from a distributor some time ago, that Sony was going
>to sign him to a 6 figure record deal. Wondering if he went against the grain
>and so on.....
He has a contract with Sony, _Giant Robot_ is on Sony in Japan and I have
heard that the album he is now recording will be on Sony.
Jeff Spirer jeff@internet.net
Axiom Web Site: http://www.hyperreal.com/axiom/
``We all enter this world in the same way: naked; screaming; soaked in
blood. But if you live your life right, that kind of thing doesn't have to
stop there."-- Dana Gould
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From jeff@shop.internet.net Fri Jun 23 10:43:47 1995
Subject: Re: Buckethead
>Buckethead also might be doing the music to the upcoming Mortal Kombat
>movie.
He did music for the Power Rangers movie, I am not sure if that is the same.
Jeff Spirer jeff@internet.net
Axiom Web Site: http://www.hyperreal.com/axiom/
``We all enter this world in the same way: naked; screaming; soaked in
blood. But if you live your life right, that kind of thing doesn't have to
stop there."-- Dana Gould
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From pmcarey@students.wisc.edu Fri Jun 23 15:09:40 1995
Subject: ZORN DIGEST #68
>From stat!hndymn!ozric@news.primenet.com Tue Jun 20 19:56:49 1995
Subject: Re: ZORN DIGEST #67
> > To the person who wanted to know who did the vocals on Leng Tch'e, it is
> > Michael Patton of Faith No More.
that was me.....and how do you know for sure??
> Yamatsuka Eye, at least that's what is written on the wrapper and what
> confirmed a musician from the band. At one time there was even a rumor that
> the Melvins were playing on LENG TCH'E. This rumour seems to have calm
> down. I am not very familiar with Mike (except for Mister Bungle) and I
> think I will listen to it again to see why so many people want Patton
> as the singer on this record (I am sure there is a reason).
have you ever listened closely to his screaming? you would know if it was
hime if you ever heard FNM or bungle in concert, or listend to the latest
FNM album. or closely examine the small amount of screaming noise parts
on the mr bungle album........i want it to be him because he is a very
wonderful singer....even if he never sang, he can make just as many, if
not more different, and more varied sounds with is throat than Eye can...
well, maybe....
and was that thing about the melvins saying that the Mike Patton
possibility is only a rumor?
they do thank him on Grand Guignol, and he does sing on Elegy.
**** The insert to my Leng Tch'e disc (Toy's Factory) says the following:
recording - ALEC HEAD, mix - OZ FRITZ, mastering - BOB LUDWIG, cover -
TOMOYO T.L., composed & produced by - JOHN ZORN, published by - THEATRE OF
MUSICAL OPTICS (BMI), (*...and here's the important part ...*) thanks -
PATTON & THE MELVINS.
I would assume that if Zorn thanked them than they must have contributed to
the album in some way ... i.e. Patton on vox & the Melvins helping with the
music.
I've also read a few reviews of the disc that have talked about how Patton
& the Melvins joined Naked City for a "30 minute jam session" etc etc . . .
It was quite a while ago so I'm sorry but I don't remember where I read it.
-Patrick
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From kidfunky@grfn.ORG Sat Jun 24 11:19:11 1995
Subject: Re: ZORN DIGEST #67
> >
> > To the person who wanted to know who did the vocals on Leng Tche, it is
> > Michael Patton of Faith No More.
>
> Yamatsuka Eye, at least that's what is written on the wrapper and what
> confirmed a musician from the band. At one time there was even a rumor that
> the Melvins were playing on LENG TCH'E. This rumour seems to have calm
> down. I am not very familiar with Mike (except for Mister Bungle) and I
> think I will listen to it again to see why so many people want Patton
> as the singer on this record (I am sure there is a reason).
>
> Patrice.
My copy of the album specifically states: THanks to Mike Patton, and the
Melvins. (Or something to that affect). It sounds to me like the Melvins
play throughout the album, the guitar for the most part is very
Melvins-ish and not very Naked City-ish. Also the vocals, as far as I can
tell, are Mike Patton. Sure it is the same screaming style vocals that
Yamakutsa Eyes is known for, but it does not sound like Yamakutsa, and
Mike Patton also is known for doing the same kind of vocal style on
occasion. Besides wasn't Mike Patton touring with Naked City at the time?
I know he did several shows with them. You were aware that Zorn produced
Bungle, and also several members of Bungle including Patton are on Zorn's
Elegy?
>
> >
>
> Did the Deli Creeps ever actally release anything? I have one shitty
> quality demo and would love to get a hold of more if it existed.
>
> "Can't see me, can't see me, na na na...YOU CAN'T SEE ME BASTARDS, YOU CAN"T
> SEE MEEEEEEE!!!!!" - Maximum Bob
>
> Andrew
>
Buckethead's Giant Robots features many tracks which are either new
versions of Deli Creeps songs, or also feature the other members of Deli
Creeps. If you like Deli Creeps, definetly see if you can get your hands
on this disc. I also am only aware of demo recordings from them.
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From jk@ritz.mordor.com Sun Jun 25 11:11:57 1995
Subject: Re: ZORN DIGEST #68
>> From jeff@shop.internet.net Tue Jun 20 17:24:04 1995
>>
>> I saw Patton as the vocalist with Naked City in NYC about five years ago.
>> Maybe his live appearances make people suspect that he is on the recorded
>> stuff.
>
>do you happen to know what the date was or what could be distinguishable
>about the show to maybe find out if it is was recorded and accessible in
>some way?
>
>----
>ozric@hndymn.stat.com ((corey fogel))
>'the computer handyman' - 602/548-9706
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i didn't write the original mention of the show but if it's the same one i
was at it was at the now-defunct marquee in new york on thursday april 9,
1992.
jon (who knew that if he saved all of his ticket stubs for 18 years it
would come in handy at least once)
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