> Tony Oxley: he is both classic and innovative. Amazing in the sound (with
> Braxton, Cecil Taylor).
>
> I agree with Jon Abbey : Le Quan Ninh is a very great musician; he is more
> a percussionist than a drummer. I've seen him many times these last years,
> what he does is fantastic. He has created a kind of new language with
> percussions/objects.
>
> Jacques Oger
>
The more I read this thread, the more I realize I have very little interest in 'drummers' and much more interest in 'percussionists'. People such as many mentioned here -- can't remember all them, but the Bozzio, Chambers, etc kind -- bore me to death. It is the ones who are willing to step out from behind their kit and work with non-traditional instruments that I like. Or people who aren't really there to play as a rhythm player. Even someone like Joey Baron, who is a great 'drummer', I begin to get bored with quite quickly. That said, I wholeheartedly agree with Jacques and Jon in their recommendation of Le Quan Ninh. And I am really surpriosed to see so little mention of Oxley, Eddie Prevost, and Paul Lovens. These guys are the ones doing something really interesting with percussion. And Gino Robair. And i'd also recommend a recent disc on Ambiances Magnetiques by Italian percussionist Mirko Sabatini, where he uses a variety of electric motors, and other things, to manuipluate his drums. Good stuff.
And, for a completely untrained, yet interesting player, John Heward. If it can be found, his record with bassist Yves Boulliane (on a little label out of Montreal called CIAC) is great.
And personal message for Jacques -- i got the discs, thank you. Yes, I am still doing the radio show, just far too busy to keep up with my playlists.
Passing on some info about upcoming shows in Atlanta from a periodic emailer
I receive...
<< Euphonic Productions
presents
VANDERMARK FIVE
featuring
Ken Vandermark - reeds
Dave Rempis - reeds
Jeb Bishop - trombone, guitar
Kent Kessler - bass
Tim Mulvenna - drums
8:30pm, Tuesday, Oct. 3rd
$10 at the door
First Existentialist Congregation
470 Candler Park Drive, NE
404-622-3355 or euprod@aol.com
Special thanks to:
Earthshaking Music, The Highland Inn, Old Gold, Pure Productions, Savage
Pizza, WREK 91.1FM
UPCOMING EUPHONIC PRODUCTIONS
EUGENE CHADBOURNE - guitar, banjo, vocals, etc.
PAUL LOVENS - selected drums & cynbals, Stradivarius singing saw
9pm, Thursday, Oct. 12th
$8 at the door
Earthshaking Music
543 Stokeswood Ave
404-622-3355 or euprod@aol.com
THE DON'T LOOK BACK IN ANGER ENSEMBLE
featuring
Jeremy Wilms - guitar
Andrew Barker - drums
Andrew Burnes - bass
9pm, Friday, Oct. 13th
$5 at the door
Earthshaking Music
543 Stokeswood Ave
404-622-3355 or euprod@aol.com
EYEDRUM MUSIC FESTIVAL
featuring
Shaking Ray Levis
Harald Kimmig & Carl Ludwig Huebsch
Gezoleen
Konx
Rob Mallard
Pam Howe
Stetson Fitz
Alison Kendra Hunt
Marshall Avett
Rizzudo
Saturday, Oct. 14th
doors open at 5 pm, show starts at 6pm
$10 at the door includes refreshments
Eyedrum
253 Trinity Avenue, NW
sponsored by WREK, Old Gold & Euphonic Productions
404-522-0655 or www.eyedrum.org
SAMAHDA ENSEMBLE
featuring
Chris Case - piano, alto sax
Peter Hickey - bass, clarinet
Keith Leslie - drums
8:30pm, Thursday, Oct. 19th
$7 at the door
First Existentialist Congregation
470 Candler Park Drive, NE
404-622-3355 or euprod@aol.com
FRANK GRATKOWSKI - reeds
plus special guests TBA
9pm, Saturday, December 2nd
$7 at the door
EYEDRUM
253 Trinity Avenue, NW
404-622-3355 or euprod@aol.com
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> he also plays with two other bands (that i know of) called Rake and
> Brandon Walsh.
>
Hmmm, interesting. I'm a friend of Jamie, the drummer from Rake, and he had mentioned that they play with a cellist recently (we live about 3000 miles apart, so I haven't seen them play). Did you happen to see the "Rakestar Arkestra" gig (Rake's CD release party), where a bunch of Ottawa musicians did Sun Ra material? Was Molnar part of it? It sounded like quite a show. Supposedly it was videotaped, and there will be a copy on the way to me as soon as someone finds the original!!
34, look great in Italian sportcoats purchased tax-free as remainders at the Burlington Coat Factory in Paramus, NJ, and worn over t-shirts, never ever mananged to hear Quine and Maher's 'Basic' despite years of trying to order a copy.
In a message dated Wed, 4 Oct 2000 6:31:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mcizon@800.com writes:
<< I was wondering what self-titled Prelapse Avant CD is like. I hear things like it features never-before-released Naked City compositions. That Zorn guests on
a handful of tracks. That it's excellent. Please confirm/deny this hearsay.>>
I became interested in Prelapse from the tracks on the Zorn Taboo & Exile (or is it Music for Children?)CD, so I bought the Prelapse disc, hoping for more of the same. My huge disappointment came as soon as I heard an Eye-style vocal in the Prelapse stuff. I despise Eye's contributions to Naked City (if I could excise his 'contributions' from NC, I'd spend a lot more time listening to their discs), and the Prelapse "Eye-lite" takes a lot away from their music for me.
As for violinists, I missed some of the posts, but I didn't see Mark O'Connor mentioned, which surprises me (unless the original post asked about strictly avant-style players). Yes, he's doing classical crossover these days, and he's never done anything remotely avantish, but he is one monster if an improvising instrumentalist. Certainly technically, there's never been anybody even remotely on his level in the non-classical world, and very few in the classical field either. But it is what he does with it that can be mind-boggling. His best stuff is still found in the progressive bluegrass/newgrass/new acoustic bins, usually as a sideman (especially from the 1980s, early '90s), but he's also done some a few great albums himself. Try "New Nashville Cats," or "Heroes," for starters.
And having mainly lurked around here for about a year, I was surprised at how many folks are in my age bracket (41).
Subject: Re: Are Absinthe and Heretic Worthwhile Purchases?
Date: 07 Oct 2000 10:05:53 -0400
On Sat, Oct 07, 2000 at 11:55:29PM +1000, Adam Rock wrote:
> I've heard that "Absinthe" and "Heretic" are often regarded as rather mediocre releases from Naked City (especially in comparison to their other albums). Anyone care to comment?
"Absinthe" is the Naked City disc to which I listen the most. It's much
more ambient, without focusing on the jump cut frenzy of some other of
their efforts. If you listen to it expecting a rerun of the "Naked City"
album you'll be disappointed, but it's a wonderful disc on its own
merits.
--
|> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <|
I am very new to the list, and to John Zorn as well. I've heard only a limited amount of recordings to which I've found to be very interesting. I am aware that he has a vast discography, and was wondering if any devoted fan would be willing to tape me some of his works, a personal "greatest hits" if you will, because I'd like to experience a fans favorites over an entire album. Trading would be fine with me, but the only main collection I have of rarities is of Jandek. Any help would be appreciated.
On Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 01:09:17AM -0300, Sh wrote:
> If you were to recommend an Ornette Coleman disc for someone to buy, what would it be and why? I missed the all the Ornette chatter on the Zorn-list that transpired a while a go, so, my apologies. Thanks in advance.
I'd say the best all-around introduction would be "In All Languages",
which features both his electric and acoustic groups doing many of the
same pieces. This provides both a variety of textures and a way into
seeing how his writing works in different settings.
--
|> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <|
> Probably of interest to at least a few people: While looking around the
> AMM/Matchless website, I just noticed that Derek Bailey and Eddie Prevost
> have a duo album due out this fall (which I take to mean any day now) on a
> label I've never heard of, San Wired. Anyone have more info?
>
> - -Jesse
Eddie Prevost has the name of the label wrong on his site. The label is Arrival Records, a new label started by Ron de Jong, the percussionist from Vertrek Ensemble (whose new album with Eugene Chadbourne is very good, by the way -- one of my favorite Chadbourne releases). The EuroFreeImprov site has the right label in the Bailey discography section.
I'm not sure when the album will be out; there will be another release coming at the same time by a band from Montreal, and while the Bailey/Prevost material (disc, cover) is ready to go to the manufacturer, the other one isn't. It should, hopefully, be very soon.
I've heard the album (I wrote the liner notes for it), and it is extremely good. But then again, how could you expect less from Bailey and Prevost? It is quite quiet and introspective -- more than I was initially expecting.
Subject: Re: What was I thinking? (again no obvious Zorn content...but maybe)
Date: 20 Oct 2000 10:14:30 -0700
> Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 08:32:45 -0700
> From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <proussel@ichips.intel.com>
> Subject: Re: What was I thinking? (again no obvious Zorn content...but maybe)
>
> > << So, a question for you all - when did *you* realise that your music
> > obsession was out of control? And did you care?
>
> When I realized that I had more excitement to buy records than to listen to
> them, it was a clear sign that something wrong was going on...
>
> Patrice.
I know that feeling. I've had too many incidents lately where I go to buy a disc and the person in the store asks me a question about something I had bought a few weeks earlier (we have similar tastes) -- and I can't answer it because I haven't heard more than 10 minutes of it on the drive home from the store.
Adam> Would anyone who has heard Sex Mob's "Din of Inequity" care to provide a brief review? Also how does the altoist Briggan Krauss compare with Zorn in relation to playing style and ability? Does
Adam> any zorn-lister have an opinion regarding who they consider to be the best altoist in NYC at present?
Briggan Krauss has one recording DESCENDING TO END. But you nearly
can't identify any saxophone sounds. Krauss used samples of his
playing, electronical sound (???) and created the music out of it.
Well, I don't know who is the best altoist in NY, but Krauss is one of
> Thanks for all the replies. The WFMU archives look pretty >impressive, any hint to what the best programs are?
There's a lot to explore, but check out the playlists to get an idea of what the show is like. Most of the DJs are most inventive/interesting than the usual play-and-say ones. (By the way, it's best to save the show to your hard drive so you can listen later while browsing and without interruptions.) However, Irwin Chusid doesn't do playlists for his show but it's a constant surprise so don't pass it up.
My other personal favorites are:
Rhubarb Cake (surprising stuff that I haven't often heard of)
Ken Friedman (stuff I've heard of but haven't often heard)
Brian Turner (stuff I've heard and haven't heard but like to hear anyway)
Incorrect Music (outsider, golden throats, etc)
Unpopular Music (Kenny G, no not THAT one but a wonderful writer/host of experimental, avant, etc)
Irene Trudel (yeah it might appear a bit wimpy from the playlists but this is just wonderful)
Secret Museum of the Air (old "ethnic" records)
The Audio Kitchen (found recordings & real-life audio snapshots)
& the little that I've heard of Give the Drummer Some, Inflatable Squirrel Carcass and Hova are pretty nice.
Subject: Re: Look at the Riot I've caused/Canadian politics
Date: 26 Oct 2000 18:11:48 -0700
> on 10/26/00 3:30 PM, Ken Waxman at mingusaum@yahoo.ca wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Day 3 of the Canadian campaign:
>
I've always thought that the thing most Americans would least understand about our election process is the fact that it can be done in one month, unlike the US version which seems to start the day after inauguration.
Dan (living in that hotbed of Alliance Party ultraconservatism, but proud to be in one of two ridings to have elected an NDP candidate to our provincial gov't)
> on 10/27/00 12:35 PM, Andreas Dietz at andreasdietz@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> >> NV: The "complete" Stanley Kubrick on DVD.
>
> can anyone explain to me why two of the films are NOT wisescreen???
>
> I don't understand,
> RL
I was told it is because they were originally broadcast in theatres in the same screen ratio as they are on the DVD, and that the disclaimer saying they are reformatted to fit the screen is actually wrong.
I, of course, may also be wrong, and hopefully someone with more knowledge of Kubrick will verify my answer.
