Subject: Re: RE: elegant spanking / the black glove
Date: 05 Jan 2000 13:58:54 -0500
> Speaking of ordering, anyone know where I might be able to order > some movies zorn has scored?
"Sadistic City" has been released on Hong Kong video, dubbed into Cantonese with Chinese and English subtitles. Can be found in your local Chinese video store.
>Re: Kaiser being a dickhead... From my admittedly
>limited experience with him, he's actually been a very
>nice and generous guy. He was very informative and
Without going into details I once experienced what people are probably referring to, but when Henry found out that it was a legitimate misunderstanding between us and a well-meaning publicist he was very apologetic and even sent sent some taped concerts as a peace offering. (The punch line was that the two resulting articles were later canned almost simulataneously by the magazines involved.)
In a message dated Fri, 7 Jan 2000 4:54:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, Aaron D Meyers <adm226@is9.nyu.edu> writes:
>
> > the big three, if you want purist experimental electronica, are
> > squarepusher (pre-'rotted'), bisk, and autechre. the first two have
> > actual jazz elements. the third simply represents the electronica of
> > the future. avoid squarepusher from 'rotted' on; it's dreck.
>
> I would have to completely disagree with this last statement. There are a
> lot of nay-sayers when it comes to the latest Squarepusher stuff, but
> while I really love the older stuff, Music is Rotted One Note is a truly
> amazing album covering very fresh territory. Admittedly, it took me a bit
> to get into, but the new Squarepusher era can hardly be written off as
> "dreck".
>
> I'll second the Cujo/Amon Tobin reccomendation, but the real magnum opus
> of his is Permutation. I love the Cujo disc, but Permutation is very
> evolved and complex in places where the Cujo disc was a bit lacking.
>
> In this area of Jazz-inflected electronic music, also worth checking out
> is the Cinematic Orchestra (cut-up jazz noir orchestral sound with live
> musicians), Clifford Gilberto (jazzed up DnB with a cartoonish edge?), Red
> Snapper (live band DnB, etc.), and also check out Isotope 217 for sure.
>
> In regards to downtowners doing DnB/Trip Hop, Ponga is worth checking
> out. Dave Douglas' Sanctuary CD occasionally has a Trip Hop feel to
> it... sorta. Thats about all I can think of at the moment that is
> actually recorded. If you are in NYC, check out the amazing live Drum and
> Bass stylings of drummer Jo Jo Mayer.
>
> -Aaron
>
Have to "me too" Aaron's statement. If you're one to limit your electronica scope to the drifty/bleepy stuff, then sorry 'bout that- you're missing out. Squarepusher has avoided the redundancy one finds in much of the ambient/electronic/d'n'b world these days. I wish others would reach out and explore like Jenkinson and the others mentioned above...
On Thu, Jan 13, 2000 at 02:50:43PM -0500, Michael Berman wrote:
> folks-
>
> I have been trying to track down the Joe Zaniwul: 'Money In Pocket/Rise and Fall of The Third Stream' two-fer. does anyone know if that is still available anywhere?
You might have better luck spelling the name "Zawinul".
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|> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <|
I'm almost 100% sure I saw a copy of it in NYC last wek and in Toronto at
the same time. 32 Jazz has a Web presence either itself or through Rhino.
Drop them a note to find out for sure.
Ken Waxman
On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, Michael Berman wrote:
> folks-
>
> I have been trying to track down the Joe Zaniwul: 'Money In Pocket/Rise and Fall of The Third Stream' two-fer. does anyone know if that is still available anywhere?
I'm almost 100% sure I saw a copy of it in NYC last wek and in Toronto at
the same time. 32 Jazz has a Web presence either itself or through Rhino.
Drop them a note to find out for sure.
Ken Waxman
On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, Michael Berman wrote:
> folks-
>
> I have been trying to track down the Joe Zaniwul: 'Money In Pocket/Rise and Fall of The Third Stream' two-fer. does anyone know if that is still available anywhere?
In a message dated Tue, 18 Jan 2000 10:59:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, Douglas Tapia <dtapia@arts.unco.edu> writes:
>
> >>What's your opinion on BILL LASWELL'S JAZZONIA?
> >>
> >that it's complete bullshit, very much like the last dozen or so albums
> >laswell has released. lame, uninspired, & poorly played.
>
>
> Can you elaborate? I mean, it's not as if your reply isn't explicit
> enough, I just would like to know what you're hearing. I'm by no means
> an authority on Laswell, but the stuff I've heard seems to be pretty
> good, if not necessarily ground breaking. Is Laswell's playing
> specifically poor, or is blame shared all the way around? I'm not being
> a smart-ass, I'm really curious, since you obviously have a developed
> opinion.
>
> respectfully,
>
> -Doug
>
> -
I've always found Stephen Fruitman's "thumbs up" reviews as an indication of a pretty good album. I just bought it tonight based on his positive remarks from yesterday- i'll throw my input this way after I give it a few spins.
>They never fail to confuse, infuriate and ultimately satisfy me. I hope
>they can keep putting out product despite their radically >unpredictable
>and ungrateful attitude.
>Gotta love em
>But why hasn't WB dropped them, or would they WANT to be >dropped?
Since the ultimate break-up of Faith No More, Patton has decided to make Mr. Bungle his most serious project. It seems like WB keeps them around because they sell a lot of albums with absolutely no promotion, so it costs WB nothing to keep them on. Plus, their diversity of sound allows them to extend to a number of markets. From the comic-metal aspects of the first album to the pure avant-garde wierdness of Disco Volante (which, in my opinion, is more "Zorn-like" than the one that he produced himself) to the doo-wop, sickly pop sound of the latest California, Mr. Bungle has shown that they have the ability to spread through all different kinds of markets.
Unlike FNM, which Patton was asked to do, Mr. Bungle is done with people he's known for a long time. This seems like it will keep the infighting that occured in FNM down, but I cannot imagine a whole lot of tours coming from it (considering when Trey Spruance was asked to join on for "King for a Day" and then dropped out when touring started). However, I think that they are a better studio band than a touring band.
The best example that I know of (that is still in print) the magic that Albert Ayler had is "Live-Greenwich Villiage Session" on Impulse. It's a 2-disc set, so it's a little more of an investment (& I dare you to find it used), but it's well worth it. I cannot remember off the top of my head what year it was recorded in, but it holds 14 tracks, almost all of which are quality.
On Sat, Mar 08, 2036 at 05:07:41PM -0800, Cindy Emch wrote:
> The Japanese S&M and other intense imagery that Mr. Zorn has used, for whatever given effect, has used ADULTS, and thus although it may not be your cup of tea, they are consenting adults and they may do their intense things and some powerful images may come out of it.
Did the victims of the tortures, executions, and post-mortem mutilations
consent?
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|> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <|
