It's due out November 8th. Check the Smells Like website for more info (well not much more). ICE says it's supposed to have a CDROM-accessible video of one performance but that's not mentioned on the site. Anyway, these seem more post-neoclassicist to me.
LT
"Patrice L. Roussel" <proussel@ichips.intel.com> wrote:
> Anybody knows if the following record has been released?
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Subject: re: tony williams THANKS FOR ALL YOUR REPLIES!!!
Date: 22 Nov 1999 20:04:11 +0100
hi everyone!
first of all thanks a lot for all the input concerning essential tony
williams recordings!
guess i'll have to save up some money! if i bought everything
recommended: phew!
but thanks again. i'll most definitely check a lot of the stuff out!
aaron (adm226@is9.nyu.edu) wrote:
>>Do yourself a favor and get Tony Williams Lifetime "Emergency!". It's John
this i will definitely check out since so many people have recommended
it!
>>I know I have
>>some Blue Note stuff where he is a sideman, but no standouts are popping out
>>at me at the moment. I'll make sure and get back to you on that stuff. In
i got some of that blue note stuff, too. i quite like una mas by...
er... is it kenny dorham? (not sure, can't check it right now...)
hywel davies wrote:
>>hi, i'd second the recommendation for Emergency - it's
>>eassential listening; not alot else is unfortunately -
>>his two blue note cds Spring and Life Time (not to be
>>confused with the later Lifetime group!)are very good,
>>but nothing else is really worth getting;
definitely on my wants list now!
>>if you want
>>a cd of his later quintet, get the live in tokyo
>>double cd, it's the best of a pretty similar bunch.
didn't like the later stuff. have checked that out already. didn't have
a problem with tony's playing, but with the music itself...
>> any of his albums with miles are of course essential,
have bought quite a few of them already.
>>except for "in a silent way" (good record, but tony is
>>pretty bland);
i wont buy it then!
>>and go for the plugged nickel highlights
>>cd if you can't afford the box set!
on my wants list, too! (the box set of course. which means more saving
up!)
jeroen wrote:
>>Be sure to check out Eric Dolphy's 'Out to Lunch'
got that already.
>>and Andrew Hill's
>>'Point of Departure' (featuring Dolphy). It shows Williams in a more
another one i'll check out!
User384726@aol.com wrote:
>>For an amazing latin influenced jazz album you should try to find Stan Getz's
>>"Captian Marvel" Album (I think it was reissued as "The Lyrical Stan Getz").
now this sounds very, very interesting! tops my shopping list!
eric martens wrote:
>>I have to disagree. Personally, the secong Lifetime
>>album, "turn it over" (w/ McLaughlin, Young & Jack
>>Bruce) is even better: harsher, darker, more intense .
>>. . the opening take on Chick Corea's "To Whom it May
>>Concern" is probably one of my favorite recordings of
>>all time . . . also, Williams' vocals are a lot better
i'll definitely check this bands stuff out!
matt mitchell wrote:
>>ANYTHING he was on with Miles, including ESP, Miles Smiles, Sorcerer,
>>Nefertiti, Miles in the Sky, Files de Kiliminjaro, Seven Steps to Heaven, the
>>Complete 1964 Concert (My Funny Valentine+Four and More) Also, he's on the
>>7-CD set The Complete Live at the Plugged Nickel, and the first 6 I listed
>>are compiled with alternates, etc. on the Miles 1965-68, the Complete Studio
>>Sessions (6 CD's)
now i also know some more miles albums i can check out!
>>He has two albums on Blue Note under his own name, Life Time and Spring,
>>which are amazing. He's on Herbie Hancock's My Point of View, Empyrean
>>Isles, and Maiden Voyage, Wayne Shorter's The Soothsayer, Jackie Maclean's
>>One Step Beyond, Grachan Moncur's Evolution and Some Other Stuff, Eric
>>Dolphy's Out to Lunch, Andrew Hill's Point of Departure. All these are on
>>Blue Note.
>>He recorded some electric stuff in the 70's, some of which is essential:
>>Emergency!, Turn it Over, Ego, are all great, and I don't recall the titles
>>of the later ones. Also, VSOP aldums are all great, most notably, VSOP: The
>>Quintet. He's on Herbie Hancock Quartet from 82, with Wynton, and he's on
>>Wynton's first album a little. He's also on Renaissance by Branford.
>>I know all the recordings I listed seem like a lot, but, trust me, at least
>>85% are MUST HAVES. Hope you find stuff you enjoy.
well... do you want to ruin me??? too many recommendations! but thanks
anyway! this gives me a great starting point! and, besides, i still have
years on completing my collection, don't i?! (thank god for that!)
Velaires@aol.com wrote:
>>Kenny Dorham -- Straight Ahead
>>TW's first recording (and Joe Henderson's as well). He's swinging his ass of on this record, >>>and you can hear how developed his style already was.
sounds good to me! how many on my wants list now??? (too many!)
>>Herbie Hancock-- Empreyan Isles, Maiden Voyage
>>Everything about both these records is great, not least of all TW.
matt wirzbicki wrote:
>>If you've just started listening to the Miles stuff then maybe you haven't
>>picked up Eric Dolpy's OUT TO LUNCH. Besides being an amazingly forward
well. i just got into the miles stuff again. all those cds have been
doing nothing much but collecting dust for too long... out to lunch i
already have. quite like it, but i find it a little bit demanding to
listen to. definitely not something i can play in the background.
(zorn's masada is my favourite background music at the moment.)
>>but Sam has an awesome live trio disc on impulse!
might check that out some time, too!
again, i can only say thanks a lot to all of you! your help will keep me
busy, busy, busy... and will maybe make my bank go crazy, crazy,
crazy...
patRice
listening/listened to today: thelonious monk: genius of modern music
volume 1, hank mobley: soul station, iron maiden: piece of mind
>other gain by an illegal use of Bill Dixon's name and music (BILL >DIXON is trademarked name and cannot be used for the sale or the >promotion of any commodity without the explicit authorization of Bill >Dixon) ignoring and bypassing all forms of decency and respect
For anybody who cares, Dixon is a bit off on this: Having a personal name trademarked doesn't mean the owner (Bill Dixon Inc in this case) gets to approve everything bearing that name. If this CD is a legal release then consent isn't required, though the uneasy match between trademark and copyright law means there's probably enough to argue the case into court. As to whether the CD is legally released that will depend on who owns the copyright and what rights were granted to Cadence/CIMP; it could easily be perfectly legit and in no sense a bootleg and still be "unauthorized" by Dixon. None of this touches on the moral issues & it's pretty clear that there's some story behind this we may never know.
While there's usually a fair amount of talk about Uri Caine on this list, I have seen little (if any mention) of this release. What do y'all think of it?
>has made a deal with Tower Records to create an "Avant Garde" >section. I don't
>know the details (all stores? who decides what goes in? when does/did
The Atlanta store has had such a section for about three years, formerly way back in the corner behing "local music" but now up front in the corner behind some gift items. The promotional aspect seemed promising, especially pulling together albums that would otherwise be scattered through the store, but the drawback was that Cecil Taylor and Peter Brotzmann among others were removed from the jazz section though Cage and Feldman remained in classical. One problem is that Tower doesn't (or at least hasn't, maybe it's changed in the past year or two) completely use centralized buying so that each store is mostly responsible for its own inventory. One result is that the Atlanta store's jazz stock has been spotty for the past few years and the formerly extensive magazine selection is now pretty thin. And the cut-outs completely vanished. It's nice to see Incus or Avant releases in a store but at $5-6 above Cadence/Wayside prices there's not much incentive to buy there.
