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From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest)
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Subject: Zorn List Digest V3 #893
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Zorn List Digest Thursday, May 2 2002 Volume 03 : Number 893
In this issue:
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Re: Masada-Live, Favorites?
Masada favorites
RE: Fwd: naked city live - listening...
synths
RE: Fwd: naked city live - listening...
RE: Fwd: naked city live - listening...
live Naked City review
Bacharach
[none]
Company Week
Re: Bacharach
zorn-list@lists.xmission.com
improv music from japan 10cd boxset
Re: intergalactic maiden ballet
arto& Zorn
Re: intergalactic maiden ballet
RE: intergalactic maiden ballet
Re: intergalactic maiden ballet
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Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 00:44:26 +0200 (CEST)
From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Ricardo=20Campillo?= <houseofklang@yahoo.es>
Subject: Re: Masada-Live, Favorites?
I dont heard the Tai Pei and Jerusalem still.
For me the best is The Middleheim, all is spectacular,
the intro, the Nevuah's solos are magnificient, and
the rest of the set is simply excellent, full of
spectacular moments.
The sound of the Sevilla is very special and the set
of the Tonic is probably the best.
Reg for everybody.
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Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 19:39:44 EDT
From: Brennansf@aol.com
Subject: Masada favorites
The sound may not be the absolute greatest but the energy levels on that
bootleg are fabulous. It's my fave too!
jb
Tom wrote:
<<Sevilla must be my favoriteas I listen to it most often, but I very much
enjoy the others as well. Actually the live Masada I listen to most isn't an
offical release. It's the Jazz Door bootleg "Masada Live in New York 1994."
Crisp recording, energetic and soulful performance. Funnily enough, the
title is misleading since the performance itself is radio broadcast of a
German concert.
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Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 19:35:27 -0500
From: "Zachary Steiner" <zsteiner@butler.edu>
Subject: RE: Fwd: naked city live - listening...
I don't think that Erotico was ever recorded by Naked City, but it does
appear on The Big Gundown. The NC version is good but misses a lot with
out the vocals, though Zorn's sax does an acceptable job of
compensating.
It is really nice to hear NC live at long last. They are just as tight
but the songs don't sound quite as sterile as they do on the first
album. They have a ton of energy.
Zach
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Subject: Re: Fwd: naked city live - listening...
the covers are
chinatown - jerry goldsmith
shot in the dark - henry mancini
erotico - ennio morricone
i want to live - jonny mandel
the way I feel - john patton
I am still going thru it, I never remember song titles. Seems like I
know most of the material. I think the patton cover is new.
overall great to hear them live. Does anyone know anything about this
gig? Sounds like they were getting ready to record the first album
because the beginning of the set starts like the album.
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Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 14:42:33 +1000
From: "Julian" <jcurwin@hartingdale.com.au>
Subject: synths
A while back there were some recommendations of synths here and I believe
someone mentioned a Roland JP-8000 as a good analog-modelling synth. Just
wondering if my memory is serving me correctly here, and whether anyone has
any other recommendations, perhaps something new has hit the market since...
And while I'm at it, anyone have any recommendations/comments on guitar
synths? They've always sounded kind of cheesy to me, but maybe technology
has caught up now, any good ones out there?
Thanks,
Julian.
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Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 09:57:23 +0000
From: "Arthur Gadney" <a_gadney@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Fwd: naked city live - listening...
Hello,
>the covers are
>
>chinatown - jerry goldsmith
>shot in the dark - henry mancini
>erotico - ennio morricone
>i want to live - jonny mandel
>the way I feel - john patton
Out of curiosity, which songs from the first album don't they play?
GGrrr, can't wait to get my hands on that CD!
Cheers,
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Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 07:06:12 -0500
From: "Zachary Steiner" <zsteiner@butler.edu>
Subject: RE: Fwd: naked city live - listening...
1. Batman
2. Latin Quarter
3. You Will Be Shot
4. Shot In The Dark
5. Skate Key
6. Erotico
7. Snagglepuss
8. I Want To Live
9. New York Flattop Box
10. Inside Straight
11. Chinatown
12. Igneous Ejaculation
13. Ujaku
14. Blood Duster
15. Hammerhead
16. Speedball
17. Obeah Man
18. Den of Sins
19. Demon Sanctuary
20. The Way I Feel
Here's the track list...
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[mailto:owner-zorn-list@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Gadney
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 4:57 AM
To: zorn-list@lists.xmission.com
Subject: RE: Fwd: naked city live - listening...
Hello,
>the covers are
>
>chinatown - jerry goldsmith
>shot in the dark - henry mancini
>erotico - ennio morricone
>i want to live - jonny mandel
>the way I feel - john patton
Out of curiosity, which songs from the first album don't they play?
GGrrr, can't wait to get my hands on that CD!
Cheers,
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Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 08:29:40 -0400
From: "Bruno Bissonnette" <burningwater@hotmail.com>
Subject: live Naked City review
Hey fellow Zornies,
I've also gotten an advance copy of the live Naked
City, thanks to Bruce at DMG. And it's quite good...
sound very clear and clean. I was afraid that the
reason it had taken so long for this to come out was
that the live tapes did not sound good and that Zorn
was hesitant to put out something some sub-standard.
But my fears were totally unjustified, as this sounds
great. As it was mentionned, Frisell really burns it up,
and maybe it's just because I'm a guitar player myself,
but I think he stands out quite a bit. Well, this is just after
one listen too.
Besides the variations and improvisations in songs, the
other major difference for some tunes (mostly the short
numbers near the end of the second half) with the original
is the absence of Yamantaka Eye. But the songs don't
really suffer from it... if you'd never heard the originals,
you wouldn't get the feeling that something's missing.
They stand on their own, even though Eye definitely
adds intensity on the originals.
As for the overall package, well if you weren't careful you
could easily mistake the cover for the first Naked City release;
very similar WeeGee picture. Also, the inside booklet has
the same drawing of the girl with the snake going thru her
eyesocket from the first NC release, except in black and white.
It really seems as though a parallel can be drawn between
this first (from a series (!!), according to the obi) live release
and the first studio disc. There are also some pics of the band
members.
For those who wished that NC would regroup to record Radio 2,
and couldn't get enough of the studio discs, this is the next best
thing. The Naked City legacy has not been tarnished in any way,
but extended. In other words... get it!
Bruno
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Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 23:00:54 +1000 (EST)
From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Edgar=20Lee?= <edgaralee@yahoo.com.au>
Subject: Bacharach
If you are just getting into Bacharach you'd be fairly
safe buying any of the many compilations of his and
Hal David's compositions from the late 50s to about
1970. Steer away from Burt's own recordings unless you
intend drinking lots of cocktails with your parents
and their friends. Don't even bother with the
collaboration with Costello because it's simply
another one of Costello's overly contrived fan works
which shmacks of pastiche.
Edgar
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Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 18:16:35 +0000
From: "Kurt Gottschalk" <ecstasymule@hotmail.com>
Subject: [none]
cecil taylor, dave douglas, uri caine, don byron, george clinton at jvc fest
in nyc. see www.festivalproductions.net.
just spreading the word,
kurt
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Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 19:16:35 +0000
From: "Arthur Gadney" <a_gadney@hotmail.com>
Subject: Company Week
Hello Zorners.
Have you noticed that there is already a new Company Week comming up in
NYC??? It looks great!!! Last time I thought the lineup was a bit too
predicable but this looks better. Some really interesting things might come
from this... Hope it will spawn a few recordings at least.
If any of you are going, please post comments afterwards... Actually, that's
an order :-)
Thanks.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
May at Tonic:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Please visit http://www.tonicnyc.com for details and schedule updates.
- --Wed, May 15-- through --Sat, May 18--
* Company at 8pm & 10pm
With Derek Bailey (guitar), Cyro Baptista (percussion), Miguel Fransconi
(handcrafted instruments), Bill Laswell (bass), Ikue Mori (drum machine /
power
book), Jim O'Rourke (guitar / laptop / laptop / laptop), DJ Olive
(turntables),
Fred Sherry (cello) & John Zorn (alto sax) plus special guests each night.
Please visit http://www.tonicnyc.com for details and schedule updates.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
TONIC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
107 Norfolk Street
(Between Delancey & Rivington)
212-358-7501 / http://www.tonicnyc.com
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Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 17:36:47 -0700
From: skip Heller <velaires@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Bacharach
on 4/30/02 2:34 AM, patbor at patbor@buzzle.com wrote:
>
> Hi list,
>
> what would You recommend
>
> of Burt Bacharach's works
>
> apart from the Costello collaboration?
>
> Thank You
>
> -
>
any Dionne Warwick greatest hits collection that concentrates on her
60s/early 70s stuff.
sh
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Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 09:05:39 +0200
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Subject: zorn-list@lists.xmission.com
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Hello,
Any comments on the Improvised Music from Japan 10-cd boxset?
Is it worth buying?
http://www.japanimprov.com/
greets,
Jan Weynants
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Hello,<BR>
<BR>
Any comments on the Improvised Music from Japan 10-cd boxset?<BR>
Is it worth buying?<BR>
<BR>
http://www.japanimprov.com/<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
greets,<BR>
<BR>
Jan Weynants<BR>
<BR>
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<BR>
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Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 09:08:27 +0200
From: "> chromasoom audio visuele communicatie >" <mail@chromasoom.be>
Subject: improv music from japan 10cd boxset
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sorry, reprise...
Hello,
Any comments on the Improvised Music from Japan 10-cd boxset?
Is it worth buying? Did anyone order it through Metamkine?
http://www.japanimprov.com/
greets,
Jan Weynants
>
chromasoom bvba
tel 015 26 28 58
fax 015 26 28 58
http://www.chromasoom.be
mail@chromasoom.be
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sorry, reprise...<BR>
<BR>
Hello,<BR>
<BR>
Any comments on the Improvised Music from Japan 10-cd boxset?<BR>
Is it worth buying? Did anyone order it through Metamkine?<BR>
<BR>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF"><U>http://www.japanimprov.com/<BR>
</U></FONT><BR>
<BR>
greets,<BR>
<BR>
Jan Weynants<BR>
<BR>
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<BR>
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Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 12:48:21 +0200
From: "Andreas Dietz" <andreasdietz@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: intergalactic maiden ballet
don┤t know where to get this in the US but it┤s the worst of all Zorn
releases (according to this list several times). Perhaps this is the reason
you want to hear it?
Andreas
np: Peter Kuhn Quartet - The Kill (Soul Note)
>From: Theo Klaase <river_of_dogs@yahoo.com>
>
>Apparently there is a CD by a band called
>"intergalactic maiden ballet" featuring John Zorn...
>Where can I get a copy of this disc?
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Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 11:11:59 +0000
From: "Ricardo Jorge" <ricardoviseu@hotmail.com>
Subject: arto& Zorn
anywone knows why these 2 stop their colaborations??
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Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 19:09:35 +0200
From: Thierry Raguin <thierryraguin@urbanet.ch>
Subject: Re: intergalactic maiden ballet
I don't know this one but personaly, I really don't like Song From The
Hermetic Theater... I just bought it and well....there's just some
noises... Any comments of this?
- - TR
Andreas Dietz wrote:
> don┤t know where to get this in the US but it┤s the worst of all Zorn
> releases (according to this list several times). Perhaps this is the
> reason you want to hear it?
>
> Andreas
>
> np: Peter Kuhn Quartet - The Kill (Soul Note)
>
>> From: Theo Klaase <river_of_dogs@yahoo.com>
>>
>> Apparently there is a CD by a band called
>> "intergalactic maiden ballet" featuring John Zorn...
>> Where can I get a copy of this disc?
>
>
>
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Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 13:17:44 -0400
From: Andy Marks <andy.marks@wisesolutions.com>
Subject: RE: intergalactic maiden ballet
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> reason you want to hear it?
While I haven't heard intergalactic maiden ballet, I would have to
say that the "worst Zorn release" honor belongs to Joe Piscopo's
New Jersey. Not necessarily because of his playing or input
(which is pretty minimal), but just the fact that he was even
involved in such a thing.
Along these lines, does anybody really know how Zorn actually got
involved with said Joe Piscopo album?
PS - I actually own this CD, just for the sheer novelty. I picked
it up from a bargain bin for one or two bucks.
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Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 10:33:07 -0700
From: skip Heller <velaires@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: intergalactic maiden ballet
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on 5/2/02 10:17 AM, Andy Marks at andy.marks@wisesolutions.com wrote:
Along these lines, does anybody really know how Zorn actually got
involved with said Joe Piscopo album?
Hal Willner produced. Terry Adams is on it, too, as is Carla Bley.
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