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Subject: Zorn List Digest V3 #805
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Zorn List Digest Monday, March 4 2002 Volume 03 : Number 805
In this issue:
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Fwd: Oskar Sala R.I.P.
Massacre, Europe Recs
Tribal Tech/JLJ shows
Re: New Tim Berne (NO JZ)
Re: minilp
Re: Tribal Tech/JLJ shows
Music Composition Software
Re: Tribal Tech/JLJ shows
Break Up Music
Re: Break Up Music
breakin' up is hard to doo(wop).
Re: breakin' up is hard to doo(wop).
Re: breakin' up is hard to doo(wop).
Re: breakin' up is hard to doo(wop).
Re: breakin' up is hard to doo(wop).
Re: breakin' up is hard to doo(wop).
Re: breakin' up is hard to doo(wop).
RE: Break Up Music
ben folds!
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Date: Sun, 03 Mar 2002 10:26:48 -0500
From: Perfect Sound Forever <perfect-sound@furious.com>
Subject: Fwd: Oskar Sala R.I.P.
>Date: Sun, 03 Mar 2002 07:19:25 -0800
>From: Thomas Ziegler
>
>Hello unto you.
>
> It is with great sadness that I announce the passing of Oskar Sala,
>one of our oldest creators and one of the founding fathers of
>experimental music. From the Associated Press:
>
>"BERLIN (AP) =97 Oskar Sala, the German composer and physicist whose novel
>musical instrument produced the sound effects for Alfred Hitchcock's
>"The Birds," died Tuesday, February 26. He was 91.
>
>Born in the eastern German town of Greiz, Sala is known for developing
>and mastering the trautonium, billed as the world's first electronic
>musical instrument on its invention in 1929.
>
>He performed with the Berlin Philharmonic several times, and the
>instrument =97 a precursor to the synthesizer =97 was frequently used in
>German ads in the 1940s and 1950s.
>
>The trautonium was most famously employed to produce the bird calls in
>Hitchcock's 1963 film. Few people realized the cacophonous calls on the
>film were produced electronically.
>
>Sala donated his original Mixtur-Trautonium to the German Museum for
>Contemporary Technology in Bonn in 1995."
Perfect Sound Forever
online music magazine
perfect-sound@furious.com
http://www.furious.com/perfect
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Date: Sun, 03 Mar 2002 12:47:52 -0500
From: "Duke Wong" <dukewongnyc@hotmail.com>
Subject: Massacre, Europe Recs
Hi All,
The Massacre gig last MOnday at the knit was sick, high energy and chuck
full of intensity, which led to 3 encores before the trio retired to get
ready for set two.
Who shows up for about half of the second set with his alto but Mr.
Zorn himself, adding his tricks and sounds to the group. Of course the tunes
and first encore Zorn sat in for were more free improv and less composed
than when the trio were left to do the massacre thing but, man, was I glad I
was there for both sets!!
On another subject:
I am currently in Europe and am looking for good live musical
recommendations in the towns of Salzburg, Munich, and Venice for this week
til next Sunday (10th). A private e-mail is greatly appreciated.
Duke
- ------------------------------
Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2002 12:22:06 +0000
From: "Arthur Gadney" <a_gadney@hotmail.com>
Subject: Frith + Bailey
Hello.
Did Massacre just play in New York? Was it good??
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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 13:56:51 -0500
From: "Sh" <subexistence@hotmail.com>
Subject: Tribal Tech/JLJ shows
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'Lo Folks. I'm looking for a couple of [excellent sounding] live shows.
Any Tribal Tech shows that have Rocket Science material on them, =
preferably
from the current European tour. Also, any Jef Lee Johnson. This guy is =
not
really well known. I came across him from James Carter's "Layin' in the
Cut," which is co-guitared with Ribot. He's got a few solo releases =
which
are all super, and there are some live tracks on some of them, leaving =
me
drueling for some live content. I know he played the Knitting Factory =
on
April 17 and 23 of 1999. Anyone have this show, or any other?
Drop me a reply if you can help me out, and I'll send you my list.
Thanks.
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Date: Sun, 03 Mar 2002 14:08:03 -0500
From: Alan Lankin <lankina@att.net>
Subject: Re: New Tim Berne (NO JZ)
Well, Hank Roberts was also on Phil Haynes's Free Country, which IIRC
was kind of open-ended song oriented, if still instrumental.
Alan Lankin
- --
Jazzmatazz
http://jazzmatazz.home.att.net
lankina@att.net
Samerivertwice@aol.com wrote:
>
> By the way, I saw Hank Roberts
> playing with a band of four last night in Ithaca. It was not what I expected
> at all. He and the other members sang quite a bit and it was more
> song/spacejam-centered than jazz. His playing was excellent -- very diverse
> with lots of gorgeous, squawky solos. The band itself was funky and tight,
> the drummer (name escapes me) being especially impressive.
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Date: Sun, 03 Mar 2002 14:12:46 -0500
From: Alan Lankin <lankina@att.net>
Subject: Re: minilp
Verve is now calling them "LPR"s. Maybe that stands for "LP replica."
None of these LPRs will have bonus tracks.
Like many, I'm torn between the ugly look/easy replacement of jewel
cases and the nicer asthetics/damagability of alternate packaging...
Alan Lankin
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Jazzmatazz
http://jazzmatazz.home.att.net
lankina@att.net
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Date: Sun, 03 Mar 2002 11:35:29 -0800
From: skip Heller <velaires@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Tribal Tech/JLJ shows
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on 3/3/02 10:56 AM, Sh at subexistence@hotmail.com wrote:
'Lo Folks. I'm looking for a couple of [excellent sounding] live shows.
Any Tribal Tech shows that have Rocket Science material on them, preferably
from the current European tour. Also, any Jef Lee Johnson. This guy is not
really well known. I came across him from James Carter's "Layin' in the
Cut," which is co-guitared with Ribot. He's got a few solo releases which
are all super, and there are some live tracks on some of them, leaving me
drueling for some live content. I know he played the Knitting Factory on
April 17 and 23 of 1999. Anyone have this show, or any other?
Drop me a reply if you can help me out, and I'll send you my list.
Thanks.
You might wanna check the Dreambox Media website for additional Jef Lee
Johnson info. He's notorious for not playing out, but he's played with
Reverie and -- I think -- also recorded with 'em. Sweetest and most
talented guy in life, but ultimately the least self-assertive. Every guitar
player in Philly 9with any sense) fears him, but he never shows up anywhere,
so he's almost Bigfoot.
skip h
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s.<BR>
Any Tribal Tech shows that have Rocket Science material on them, preferably=
<BR>
from the current European tour. Also, any Jef Lee Johnson. This=
guy is not<BR>
really well known. I came across him from James Carter's "Layin'=
in the<BR>
Cut," which is co-guitared with Ribot. He's got a few solo=
releases which<BR>
are all super, and there are some live tracks on some of them, leaving me<B=
R>
drueling for some live content. I know he played the Knitting Factory=
on<BR>
April 17 and 23 of 1999. Anyone have this show, or any other?<BR>
Drop me a reply if you can help me out, and I'll send you my l=
ist.<BR>
Thanks.<BR>
<BR>
</BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
You might wanna check the Dreambox Media website for additional Jef Lee Joh=
nson info. He's notorious for not playing out, but he's played with Re=
verie and -- I think -- also recorded with 'em. Sweetest and most tale=
nted guy in life, but ultimately the least self-assertive. Every guita=
r player in Philly 9with any sense) fears him, but he never shows up anywher=
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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 11:33:15 -0800 (PST)
From: Michael Brooker <hirakemike@yahoo.com>
Subject: Music Composition Software
Hello,
I'm sure this question has been posed many times, but
I was curious to know if anyone was aware of competent
music production software, specifically used
especially with found sound processing.
Any suggestions would be great, thanks.
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Date: Sun, 03 Mar 2002 14:52:10 -0500
From: Rich Williams <punkjazz@snet.net>
Subject: Re: Tribal Tech/JLJ shows
>
>
>
>'Lo Folks. I'm looking for a couple of [excellent sounding] live shows.
>Any Tribal Tech shows that have Rocket Science material on them, preferably
>from the current European tour. Also, any Jef Lee Johnson. This guy is not
>really well known. I came across him from James Carter's "Layin' in the
>Cut," which is co-guitared with Ribot. He's got a few solo releases which
>are all super, and there are some live tracks on some of them, leaving me
drueling for some live content.
JLJ was with Ronald Shannon Jacksons Decoding Society in the
early 90's,
He's on Red Warrior, Raven Roc and Shannon's House.
Rich
- -
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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 20:05:39 -0500
From: "Zachary Steiner" <zsteiner@butler.edu>
Subject: Break Up Music
What are some albums/songs that make people feel better when they break
up or are just feeling down?
Thanks
Zach
- -
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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 20:24:50 -0500
From: "Andrew" <ahorton@vt.edu>
Subject: Re: Break Up Music
> What are some albums/songs that make people feel better when they break
> up or are just feeling down?
It totally depends on what it takes to make you feel better; whether you
want dark, depressing music that you'll empathize with (and vice versa), or
you want cheery, happy music that will pick you up.
Dark, depressing stuff that I like to listen to when I'm filled with
despair:
Leonard Cohen
Joy Division
Nick Drake
Stuff that picks me up because it's happy:
Beat Happening
the Flaming Lips
Wire's "pink flag"
Spiritualized's rendition of "Oh, Happy Day"
- -
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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 01:00:09 EST
From: UFOrbK8@aol.com
Subject: breakin' up is hard to doo(wop).
In a message dated 03.03.02 21.43.13, ahorton@vt.edu writes:
>Stuff that picks me up because it's happy:
>
>the Flaming Lips
interesting. the song 'feeling yourself disintegrate' is probably one of the
saddest songs i've ever heard. although my perennial depressive favourite
songs include:
'a summer wasting' by belle and sebastian
'trust' by the cure
'end' by the cure (both off of wish)
all of r.e.m.'s 'out of time' (except 'shiny happy people', obviously - but
especially 'country feedback')
elvis costello ballads (especially 'days')
all of robyn hitchcock's 'perspex island'
and while i'm embarassed to admit it
'crash' by dave matthews band... it's such a pretty song. it makes me cry.
love,
k8. (who has spent a lot of time on this topic for the past ten years.)
- ---
[.n0thing.is.what.is.sAid.]
k a t e p e t e r s o n
c o m p o s e r / p e r f o r m e r
http://www.geocities.com/uforbk8/kate.html
http://www.icefoundation.org (roundtable)
- -
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Date: Sun, 03 Mar 2002 22:33:34 -0800
From: skip Heller <velaires@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: breakin' up is hard to doo(wop).
BLOOD ON THE TRACKS -- Bob Dylan
"I Loved You Yesterday" -- Lyle Lovett
"Valerie" -- Jackie & the Starlights
IN THE WEE SMALL HOURS -- Sinatra/Riddle
"Lonely Lonely Nights" -- Johnny "Guitar' Watson (If you don't respond to
this, I don't wanna know you)
"Yes It Is" -- Beatles
"Caroline, No" -- Beach Boys
or, if you're good and pissed off:
"She's Your Problem Now" -- Ben Vaughn (his only truly great song, but you
only have to be this great once)
"A Girl Like That" -- NRBQ
"Fool Fool Fool" -- The Clovers
"God Will" -- Lyle Lovett
"Any Way The Wind Blows" -- Mothers Of Invention
"How Could I Be Such A Fool" -- Mothers Of Invention
no stranger to heartbreak --
skip h
- -
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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 01:33:35 EST
From: UFOrbK8@aol.com
Subject: Re: breakin' up is hard to doo(wop).
In a message dated 03.04.02 01.30.27, velaires@earthlink.net writes:
>"Caroline, No" -- Beach Boys
shit, how could i forget? don't stop at 'caroline, no', though, let's take
all of pet sounds. for an ostensibly happy album, that one can be a real
downer. 'sloop john b', anyone? 'wouldn't it be nice'? i really think
'wouldn't it be nice' is one of the saddest happy songs i've ever heard.
it's so forlorn... ah, poor brian wilson... <bemoans the plight of brian
wilson just once more>
k.
- ---
[.n0thing.is.what.is.sAid.]
k a t e p e t e r s o n
c o m p o s e r / p e r f o r m e r
http://www.geocities.com/uforbk8/kate.html
http://www.icefoundation.org (roundtable)
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Date: Sun, 03 Mar 2002 22:47:14 -0800
From: skip Heller <velaires@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: breakin' up is hard to doo(wop).
on 3/3/02 10:33 PM, UFOrbK8@aol.com at UFOrbK8@aol.com wrote:
>
> shit, how could i forget? don't stop at 'caroline, no', though, let's take
> all of pet sounds. for an ostensibly happy album, that one can be a real
> downer. 'sloop john b', anyone? 'wouldn't it be nice'? i really think
> 'wouldn't it be nice' is one of the saddest happy songs i've ever heard.
> it's so forlorn... ah, poor brian wilson... <bemoans the plight of brian
> wilson just once more>
>
> k.
I trhink Brian described the emotional effect of PS best -- "I can't listen
to it without getting into some kind of mood."
sh
- -
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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 22:56:06 -0800 (PST)
From: aaron chua <aaronchua22@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: breakin' up is hard to doo(wop).
- --- skip Heller <velaires@earthlink.net> wrote:
> or, if you're good and pissed off:
> "She's Your Problem Now" -- Ben Vaughn (his only
> truly great song, but you
> only have to be this great once)
<snip>
off the top of my head how bout
(i'm not yr) stepping stone by the Monkees(say does
anyone know of a live version that's countrified and
raw with i recall to sound like strings or guitar
breaking??? not sure that this was done by any
ex-Monkee)
&
don't think twice its alright by dylan
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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 05:13:35 -0800 (PST)
From: jason tors <jasontors@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: breakin' up is hard to doo(wop).
there are select waits tunes that do it for me, jersey girl, anything
off closing time, the slower tunes off mule. I have a hard time
listening to lyrics, esp waits its usually the sound and feeling that
hit me.
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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 11:19:13 EST
From: UFOrbK8@aol.com
Subject: Re: breakin' up is hard to doo(wop).
should we overlook motley crue's "don't go away mad, just go away"?
;)
a few more -
'dilate' by ani difranco
'hyper-ballad' by bjork (if you read into the lyrics, it's a good angry tune)
'you are the everything' by r.e.m.
'you woke up my neighbourhood' by billy bragg
'sally (would ya be my girl)' by the police
'anna begins' by the counting crows
'euphoria' by school of fish
'laid' by james (such a sad happy song!)
'out to get you' by james (such a sad SAD song!)
'fake plastic trees' by radiohead
'someone to pull the trigger' by matthew sweet
'the long and winding road' by the beatles
'nothing worth living for' by the violent femmes
'there she goes' by the la's (another sad happy song)
and so many more...
k8.
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k a t e p e t e r s o n
c o m p o s e r / p e r f o r m e r
http://www.geocities.com/uforbk8/kate.html
http://www.icefoundation.org (roundtable)
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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 11:23:33 -0500
From: "Sean Westergaard" <seawes@allmusic.com>
Subject: RE: Break Up Music
>What are some albums/songs that make people feel better when they break
>up or are just feeling down?
this one may or may not be appropriate:
Ben Folds Five-Song for the Dumped has anyone said it better than this?
i would also echo/expand Skip's suggestion for Mothers of Invention songs to
the entire Cruisin' with Ruben and the Jets album. it's all greasy in
love/out of love doo-wop
there are also some great pouty early Roxy Music tunes:
In every dream home a heartache
chance meeting
2HB
bitter sweet
enjoy/feel better
sean
- -
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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 12:10:08 EST
From: UFOrbK8@aol.com
Subject: ben folds!
In a message dated 03.04.02 11.34.42, seawes@allmusic.com writes:
>Ben Folds Five-Song for the Dumped has anyone said it better than this?
how could i forget?
give me my money back / give me my money back you bitch / i want my money
back / and don't forget / to give me back my black t-shirt
<laugh>
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k a t e p e t e r s o n
c o m p o s e r / p e r f o r m e r
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http://www.icefoundation.org (roundtable)
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