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Subject: Zorn List Digest V3 #654
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Zorn List Digest Thursday, December 20 2001 Volume 03 : Number 654
In this issue:
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Re: Madness, Love & Mysticism
my favorites of this year
Music Romance
Re: Music Romance
Re: What's Good For The Goose........
Fwd: Music Romance
RE: James
Fwd: Re: my top 10 list / DAVID LYNCH
2001 list
tops o' charts
Re:islamic roots music (no downtown content)
My Top 10 for 2001
koncerts.
Re: Fwd: Music Romance
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Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 22:39:45 -0800
From: "Revue des Fossiles" <revuedesfossiles@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Madness, Love & Mysticism
>I just got "Love, Madness and Mysticism." I like it a lot. like a lot of
>zorn, its so full of new ideas, its going to take me a while to aborbs them
>all. The musicians are incredible. What do other zorn listers think of
>this one?
i was eagerly looking forward to this release, especially given jeni's
review of the debut of 'le momo.' i do like the three performances quite a
bit, but was a little disappointed with . . . i suppose the lack of
intensity in 'le momo?' i can appreciate the 'trills' being symbolic of the
shock therapy to which artaud was subjected, but i'd really like to hear
this piece arranged for a full orchestra.
artaud is a touchy subject for me, and i feel that zorn's previous student
film soundtrack for a happening based on one of artaud's works is a much
more fitting tribute to antonin's legacy.
'hermetic theatre,' on the otherhand is on my top ten list for 2001.
- - rdf.
np. - fad gadget - ricky's hand.
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Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 06:59:41
From: "Andrew Nairn" <moretap@hotmail.com>
Subject: my favorites of this year
Favorite cds I got this year (no particular order, some of these are old):
Low - Things we lost in the fire
Mercury Rev - All is Dream
Bill Frisell - Bill Frisell Quartet
Pan Sonic - Rude Mechanic
Raincoats - Raincoats
Bjork - Vespertine
Aphex Twin - Drukqs
Braxton - Tristano Compositions (Some of the solos on this are amazing)
Sam Cooke - The Man and his Music
Shivkumar Sharma/Zakir Hussain - Rag Madhuvanti/Tilang
Massive Attack - Mezzanine
Opal - Happy Nightmare Baby
Favorite live shows:
Spiritualized in Philadelphia (the most emotional thing I've ever seen)
Laurie Anderson in Philadelphia (this was a couple days after sept. 11th and
the lyrics for O Superman were suprisingly similar to the events e.g. "here
come the planes, so you better get ready, ready to go ... this is the hand,
the hand that takes ... cause when love is gone, there's always justice, and
when justice is gone, there's always force ... They're American planes, made
in america." the crowd went wild after that song, it was very emotional.)
Mogwai - (I think this band is so much better live then on albums. It was
very intense and loud)
Melvins - (this show was also intense and loud, and went on for a while. It
drove the crowd angry)
Book:
Italio Calvino - If on a Winters Night a Traveler
Movies: (This year I got around to watching a lot of movies)
Tow Tywker's new film - Princess & the Warrior (He also did Run Lola Run,
but this one is less gimmicky, and I think better)
Jeunet's newest - Le Fabulex Destin d'Amelie Poulain
Muholland Dr. (I was slightly disappointed by this because of how it seemed
like a miniseries the first half and not the second.)
Man Who Wasn't There (new Coen Brothers)
Svankmajer's Faust
Godard's Weekend
The Cabinet of Dr. Caliagri
David Cronenberg's eXistenZ
AI (To really like this movie I had to look past the goofy heartwarming
speilberg touches, and I found that I really liked it. mainly the
atmosphereic and visual aspects of it .)
-Andrew Nairn
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Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 08:32:12 +0100
From: "Kris Visser" <sstarkris@hotmail.com>
Subject: Music Romance
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Thanks,
Kris
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Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 18:34:29 +1100
From: "Julian" <jcurwin@hartingdale.com.au>
Subject: Re: Music Romance
The other two are "Music For Children" and "Taboo and Exile", in that order.
They are not the same style as "The Gift", rather I see them as 'best of's
in a sense (not that they contain the best material, just a reasonable cross
section of Zorn's styles). Number 1 has some Naked City-ish stuff, Bar
Kokhba-ish stuff, chamber stuff, etc... and Number 2 has some noisy rock
stuff with Laswell, Lombardo and co, some more Bar Kokhba-ish stuff, etc...
I wouldn't class either of them as ground-breaking but they're good for a
few listens. Number 2 has a bit more mileage than 1 from my experience...
<< I just bought "The Gift" and the OBI strip says that it's "the third
release in Zorn's challenging Music Romance series". I was trying to find
out on www.tzadik.com what the other cd's in the Music Romance series were,
but I can't find it. Can anyone here help? Are the other two in the same
easy listenable style as "The Gift"? >>
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Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 23:48:31 -0800 (PST)
From: Scott Handley <thesubtlebody@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: What's Good For The Goose........
- --- Revue des Fossiles <
> nr. ralph wehowsky - assorted articles.
On or by? Where?
- ------s, on an RLW kick, spilling coffee all over self
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Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 09:40:30 +0100 (CET)
From: =?iso-8859-1?q?efr=E9n=20del=20valle?= <efrendv@yahoo.es>
Subject: Fwd: Music Romance
Hi,
>
> I just bought "The Gift" and the OBI strip says that
> it's "the third release in Zorn's challenging Music
> Romance series". I was trying to find out on
> www.tzadik.com what the other cd's in the Music
> Romance series were, but I can't find it. Can anyone
> here help? Are the other two in the same easy
> listenable style as "The Gift"?
The two other releases from that series are "Music for
Children" and "Taboo and Exile". They are also very
"listeanable", maybe not as much as "The Gift" but two
of Zorn's most accessible works, IMHO. The two first
releases from the Music Romance Series are much better
than the latest, I think.
Best,
EfrΘn
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Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 08:42:42 +0000 (GMT)
From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Nick=20Cain?= <npc_4@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: RE: James
Pointless James trivia (speaking as someone who has
always loathed them and was consequently very
embarrassed to develop a rather irrational crush on
their 'Fred Astaire' song three years ago): the band
recently played their final show at Wembley Arena -
they've now split up, as frontman Tim Booth is leaving
the group to go run a consciousness-altering new age
workshop in the Canary Islands called "The Dolphin
Connection Experience". All true, I'm afraid...
--- "Neil H. Enet" <nilugo@usa.net> wrote: >
- --------------
> Was it just me, or was this this about the dullest
> thing you've ever heard?
> I honestly wasn't expecting a lot out of it though,
> after how completely
> wonderful I thought Millionaires was - not that most
> Americans ever heard
> it, much less knew it existed.
> ----------------
>
> I actually like it very much, even more than
> MILLIONAIRES, although they are
> both great albums. But to me, they both sound very
> similar, same vibe.
> Anyway, be sure to check the new B-SIDES album, I
> understand it's a very
> good compilation.
>
> Neil H. Enet
> ------------
>
> NP. FAITH NO MORE - album of the year
>
>
> -
>
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Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 09:53:54 +0100 (CET)
From: =?iso-8859-1?q?efr=E9n=20del=20valle?= <efrendv@yahoo.es>
Subject: Fwd: Re: my top 10 list / DAVID LYNCH
Hi,
> << In january you will be able to buy
> the DVDs for ERASERHEAD >>
>
> any more details on this? it doesn't seem possible
> to access any info on
> Lynch's web site without becoming a paying member.
> will you have to order it
> through him, or will all the normal outlets have it?
I don't think there should be any problems to get this
stuff from normal stores. In Spain a first three-DVD
collection was already released just a couple of
months ago, although the choices were not the best:
THE ELEPHANT MAN, DUNE, THE STRAIGHT STORY (not too
representative of his work, IMHO). If there are
collections in Spain, just imagine out there!!
Also, the entire VHS TWIN PEAKS COLLECTION was
released about a year ago and I was clever enough to
buy it. I've watched the series 3 times in a row.
I forgot to include LYNCH ON LYNCH among my favorite
readings of the year. Just amazing.
No Zorn content, BTW.
Best,
EfrΘn del Valle
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Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 09:16:32 +0000 (WET)
From: Ricardo Reis <l43384@alfa.ist.utl.pt>
Subject: 2001 list
sorry, things are busy, just made a cut through the stuff i've
bought this year and left what thoughted better (or which turned my head
more than 5 times listening):
John Zorn / Naked City Radio
Sarah Vaughan Sarah Vaughan
Stan Getz/Joco Gilberto Getz/Gilberto
Tony Scott Music for Zen meditation
Ennio Morricone A fistful of sounds
Dr. Frankenstein The lost tapes from Dr. Frankenstein lab
Rita Hayworth Rita Hayworth
John Coltrane Coltranology Vol.1
Thelonious Monk Brilliant corners
Louis Armstrong Hot 5s and Hot 7s Louis Armstrong Hot 5s and Hot
7s
Marilyn Monroe Marylin Monroe - complete recordings
Nvel Akchoti Alike Joseph
Boredoms Soul discharge '99
O.S.T. In the mood for love
Bebel Gilberto Tanto tempo
Max Nagl The evil garden
O.S.T. Touch of Evil
John Zorn The Big Gundown
John Zorn The gift
Fantomas Director's cut
Kodo Tsutsumi
David Shea Hsi-Yu Chi
Dean Elliott Zounds! What sounds!
Herb Robertson Transparency
Rechenzentrum The John Peel sessions
Freeform Audioturism - Vietnam and China
greets,
Ricardo Reis
"Non Serviam"
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Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 04:13:56 -0500
From: "Nirav Soni" <nirav@ink19.com>
Subject: tops o' charts
I'll post this before people stop reading them.
Olivia Block- Mobius Fuse (Sedimental)
Antenna Farm- fog/splinter (early mess) (Phthalo)
Phoenecia- Brownout (Schematic)
Lionel Marchetti/JΦrome Noetinger- Mort Aux Vaches (Staalplaat)
Phillip Jeck- Vinyl Coda IV (Intermedium)
Michael Gira/Daniel Matz- What We Did (Young God)
Joan of Arc- How Can Anything So Little be Any More? (Jade Tree)
bonnie 'prince' billie- Get On Jolly (did this come out last year? oh
well...)
Jonathon Coleclough- Period (Anomalous)
Hands To- Turn Back the Sun (Manifold) (reissue)
Discordance Axis- The Inalienable Dreamless (Hydra Head)
Tetuzi Akiyama/Taku Sugimoto/Bo Widget- Periodic Drift (Corpus Hermeticum)
John Butcher/Xavier Charles/Axel Dorner- The Contest of Pleasures (Potlach)
Phil Durrant/Thomas Lehn/Radu Malfatti- Dach (Erstwhile)
Giuseppe Ielasi/Domenico Scianjo- Right After (Erstwhile)
Utah Kawasaki/Tetuzi Akiyama/Jason Kahn- Luwa (Rossbin)
Perlonex- Perpherique (Zarek)
Toshimaru Nakamura/Sachiko M- Do (Erstwhile)
Toshimaru Nakamura/Keith Rowe- Weather Sky (Erstwhile)
Andrea Neumann/Toshimaru Nakamura- Aton (Rossbin)
Keith Rowe/Burkhard Beins- Grain (Zarek)
Martin TΦtreault/Xavier Charles- MXCT (Vand'Oeuvre)
BERNHARD GUNTER- Then, Silence (Trent Oiseaux)
Brandon Labelle- Automatic Radio (Fringes)
Ralf Wehowsky/Kevin Drumm- Cases (Selektion)
Polwechsel-3 (Durian)
most everything I bought on vinyl isn't on the list, b/c I can't remember
what came out this year, and I'm a long way from my records.
Why so few records with tunes on them? I dunno...I guess I have no
heart/soul. It was a pretty fuckin cold year anyways (emotionally...not
really climate-wise).
Best shows-
Black Dice at the Knitting factory a few days ago
Neuman/Kelley/Dorner/Rainey
John Butcher/Phil Durrant
Jim O'Rourke at Tonic for Insignifigance
The Fall in Love at the Luxx
Steve Roden/Taylor Deupree/Richard Chartier
Low (in NY and Jersey)
the Pietasters
Movies of the year (that came out this year):
Werkmeister Harmonies- Bela Tarr
Code Unknown: Incomplete Tales of Several Journeys- Michael Haneke
"Into the Light" exhibition at the Whitney
Waking Life- Richard Linklater
Dream Work (For Man Ray)- Peter Tscherkassy
The Pleasures of Reading (Lost and Found)- David Gatten
Time Being- Andrew Noren
Hybrid- Monteith McCollum
Operator Kaufman- Rasmus Gerlach
Little Otik- Jan Svankmajer
(a huge chunk of the NYFF "Views from the Avant-Garde")
The Royal Tennenbaums- Wes Anderson
What I didn't see (in terms of movies) for varied reasons
Mulholland Dr.
Fat Girl
La Cienaga- Graciela Borges
Tape- Richard Linklater
Did ABC Africa come out in the US? I noticed it on someone's list...any
thoughts about it? Comparisons to other Kiarostami work?
Huge, huge film recommendation for y'all....Jan Svankmajer's "Conspirators
of Pleasure", it's complex, hilarious, incisive, satiracal, and all round
wonderful. Very, very complex use of sound, but no dialogue! fancy that...
Nirav
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Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 09:29:20 +0000 (WET)
From: Ricardo Reis <l43384@alfa.ist.utl.pt>
Subject: Re:islamic roots music (no downtown content)
don't know if you're answered yet but maybe this article would be
of interest. it was published in Aramco World:
http://www.saudiaramco.com/publications/saworld/mar_apr2001/p32to37.pdf
it has some stuff to which i don't agree but as i'm lacking of
knowledge on the area i can't refute them.
greets,
Ricardo Reis
"Non Serviam"
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Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 11:10:08 +0100
From: patRice <iqhouse@yahoo.de>
Subject: My Top 10 for 2001
Don't think I've actually bought any groundbreaking new stuff, but
here's a list anyways...
Fantomas, The Director's Cut, Ipecac
Jeff Mills, Every Dog Has Its Day, Axis
Drahdiwaberl, Torte Statt Worte, Virgin
John Zorn, The Gift, Tzadik
Iannis Xenakis, Chamber Music 1955 - 1990, Naive Montaigne
Huun-Huur-Tu, The Orphan's Lament, Jaro Medien
The Melvins, The Bootlicker, Ipecac
Missing Persons, Color In Your Life, Capitol
Kazue Sawai Koto Ensemble, Live In Bremen, Da Capo
Ustad Alla Rakha & Zakir Hussain, Tabla Duet, Moment
Body Count, Body Count, Sire
King Tubby & Soul Syndicate, Freedom Sounds In Dub, Blood And Fire
Various, Select Cuts From Blood And Fire, Blood And Fire
Miss Kittin & The Hacker, First Album, Int. DeeJay Gigolos
(Plus all the repressings of Underground Resistance that I bought)
Also I want to include my favourite books from this year:
Horiyoshi III, 108 Heroes Of The Suikoden
Michael McCabe, Tattooing New York City
JT LeRoy, Sarah
Yoshitoshi, One Hundred Aspects Of The Moon
Yasunari Kawabata, Palm-Of-The-Hand Stories
Haruki Murakami, Sputnik Sweetheart
Hampton Hawes, Raise Up Off Me
Toshio Saeki, The Early Works
Jeoren Lamers, Japonius Tyrannus: Oda Nobunaga
Spider Webb, Pushing Ink
Phil Sparrow, Bad Boys & Tough Tattoos
George Burchett, Memoirs Of A Tattooist
Eiji Yoshikawa, Taiko
Best live shows I attended:
The Melvins, Zurich/Switzerland
Jeff Mills (DJ), Zurich/Switzerland
patRice
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Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 05:14:08 EST
From: UFOrbK8@aol.com
Subject: koncerts.
i didn't see so many concerts this year. however, taking the cake...
16 and 17 november 2001
kronos quartet...
<drool>
yeah, that was me front row center screaming after every song like a 13 year
old at a backstreet boys concert. that was also me front row center asking
obnoxious, obtuse questions. and yeah, that was me who got the crowd
cheering after michael gordon's "potassium"... whee!!
kp
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Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 12:08:09 +0100
From: patRice <iqhouse@yahoo.de>
Subject: Re: Fwd: Music Romance
Hi EfrΘn & everyone else...
Again, EfrΘn, I disagree with you... ;-)
I do love "The Gift", also think that "Taboo & Exile" has some fantastic
moments, especially the hard-edged stuff... (And the cool, laid-back
track feat. Ribot.)
But "Music For Children" I personally feel is the weakest of the three
CDs from the "Music Romance" series. The Naked City "Torture Garden"-era
stuff, performed by Prelapse, I think sounds absolutely lame compared to
anything performed by Naked City, and the chamber stuff feat. Winant I
find to just be a bit artsy fartsy... (Couldn't think of a better
word...)
So, for the guy who asked the question that got this started, I think
you'd be rather disappointed with "Music For Children" if you are
expecting sthg similar to "The Gift".
patRice
np: Underground Resistance Back Catalogue
nr: Alex Kerr, Lost Japan
efrΘn del valle wrote:
>
> The two other releases from that series are "Music for
> Children" and "Taboo and Exile". They are also very
> "listeanable", maybe not as much as "The Gift" but two
> of Zorn's most accessible works, IMHO. The two first
> releases from the Music Romance Series are much better
> than the latest, I think.
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