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Zorn List Digest       Sunday, December 9 2001       Volume 03 : Number 637



In this issue:
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       ode to lou, ornette, air, and phil kline
       RE: Air
       RE: Zorn with WDR orchestra - Dec 14-15 (and more thoughts on Miller)
       NYTimes article about Boulez' arrest as terrorist suspect
       WANTED! THE SAINTS "(I'm) Stranded" LP
       (nz) Konk Pack in Holland
       Re: WANTED! THE SAINTS "(I'm) Stranded" LP
       Re: WANTED! THE SAINTS "(I'm) Stranded" LP
       Jim O'Rourke interview
       The Locust
       Intro
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Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 20:46:57 +0000
From: "Kurt Gottschalk" <[e-mail]>
Subject: ode to lou, ornette, air, and phil kline

someone said nice to see
ornette and reed are playing together.
i couldn't agree less.
let me tell you why.

it's not the first thing
they've done together.
ornette brought laurie'n'lou out
with prime time
when he played lincoln center
a few years ago.
it rotted. deeply.

i don't know what any of their stupid problems are.

meanwhile the band called air
with a new release on kfworks
is neither from chicago nor france,
but japan.
air #3, then, and that's
not counting 'fresh aire'
or 'airto sandoval.'
(but speaking of the knit
a new low there.
apparently they no longer have enough equipment
to set up all the rooms at once,
so 'zu' started some 40 minutes late
because they were waiting for tim berne
to finish with the bass amp.)

and

last year, i invited you nyclisters
to ring it on in
at phil kline's christmas parade
(no radical jew, i know, but he calls it christmas).
no one came, no grudges bare i.
this year's info at http://www.mindspring.com/~boombox/xmas.htm
lemme know if you're gonna go.
it's pretty cool.

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Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 16:00:13 -0500
From: "Steve Smith" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Air

Nope, this is a 30-year-old Japanese singer-songwriter named Koji
Kurumatani, just voice, guitar, bass and drums with a few synth twinkles.
Early impression - grungy guitar, speak-sing vocals, hip-hoppish drums. No
relation to Threadgill, nor to the French synth-pop duo. Can say as I'm real
impressed so far.

Steve Smith
[e-mail]
NP - Air, "24 Years Old," 'All Along Air' (Knitting Factory)

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[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of Andreas Dietz
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 5:57 AM
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Air


jazzmatazz lists this upcoming release:

Air - All Along Air (Knitting Factory) Jan 22

can someone give some insights? is it an old live performance of
Threadgill┤s trio?

Andreas

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Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 18:42:32 -0500
From: "Steve Smith" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Zorn with WDR orchestra - Dec 14-15 (and more thoughts on Miller)

Stranger still - I remember reading somewhere... wasn't it here, in fact, in
Ljova's or Jeni Dahmus's recap of the Zorn talk at Miller?... that Zorn's
Double Piano Concerto had been cancelled outright because Katia and Marielle
LaBecque were meddling too much. I know it's no longer on the WDR
Orchestra's American tour program...

The New York Times pretty much trashed the Miller Concert, but it really
only showed how hopelessly out of touch Tony Tomassini is with anything more
contemporary than Berg. Yes, 'For Your Eyes Only' sounds a bit naive and
antiquated by now - the filecard system is pretty old, by Zorn standards.
Yes, 'Kol Nidre' sounded like Ernest Bloch-style schmaltz, though for
Tomassini to suggest something close to plagiarism only reveals his
ignorance of the original settings for quartet, clarinet and so on. (This
new version would have sounded far better played with the full-on plumminess
of the Philadelphia Orchestra instead of the well-meaning but fairly anemic
pick-up strings of the Absolute Ensemble.)

But the Violin Concerto 'Contes de fees' was brilliant and breathtaking. It
started with the techniques of Berg, yes, but it told a different story in a
different accent and with a different man's experience and interests
compelling the narrative. Violinist Jennifer Koh made it look painless and
easy. What it revealed, too, is that Zorn is a born orchestrator. There was
a moment early on in which the violins were all playing muted harmonics
while the percussionists played shimmering, metallic sounds that made me sit
forward in amazement. And unlike many other modern composers (Elliott Carter
in his wan new cello concerto, for one), Zorn writes idiomatically for
percussion - he's as good as Chris Rouse and very nearly as good as the
all-time master, Varese, and as a percussionist, I don't say that lightly at
all. The piece made me run straight over to Zorn like a geek when it was
over, just to tell him that I wanted to hear it again, right away.
Tomassini's dismissal was ignorant, glib and unfair.

I also thought it was awfully cool that Fred Sherry, one of the Chamber
Music at Lincoln Center bigwigs and the man who commissioned 'Chimeras' for
Bargemusic some weeks back, showed up at Miller and actually continues to
take an active interest in Zorn's music, instead of just boosting his own
marquee value by using Zorn's notoriety on a single program.

Steve Smith
[e-mail]
NP - King Crimson, "Dangerous Curves," 'Level Five' (DGM)


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Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 19:34:08 -0500
From: Glenn Lea <[e-mail]>
Subject: NYTimes article about Boulez' arrest as terrorist suspect

PARIS, Dec. 6 =8B The avant- garde music of Pierre Boulez has often upset
traditionalists. But the French composer and conductor never imagined that
he could become a terrorism suspect until the Swiss police entered his room
in a five-star hotel in Basel last month and confiscated his passport.

True, back in the 1960's, Mr. Boulez once suggested that it would not be a
bad thing for contemporary music if all opera houses were blown up. Still,
he was not being literal, and that was not what prompted three Swiss
policemen to wake him the morning after he conducted at Basel's 2001 Month
of European Music.

The local police, who routinely check hotel guest lists against their
computer files, had found Mr. Boulez's name among those posing a potential
threat. In the aftermath of Sept. 11, a predawn raid was called for. The
police, who had never heard of the maestro, seized his passport and train
ticket and began to investigate.

The problem, it seems, stemmed more from musical taste than terrorism.

Astride Schirmer, Mr. Boulez's spokeswoman in Paris, said that in 1995, a
Swiss music critic who had written a scathing review of a concert by Mr.
Boulez received a threatening telephone call that included references to
bombs.

"The person who called may have said he was Mr. Boulez," Ms. Schirmer said.
"It was evidently a joke in extremely bad taste, but the critic reported it
to the police, and Mr. Boulez's name was entered into their files."

Two hours after the raid in early November, the police returned Mr. Boulez'=
s
passport amid profuse apologies. A letter from Basel's police chief
apologized for "the force's excessively zealous behavior." After the
incident became public this week, Mr. Boulez, 75, refused to discuss it
further.

"I hope it won't stop him coming back here," a Basel police spokesman said.
"I understand a lot of Swiss like his music."
P


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Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 18:28:51 +0000 (GMT)
From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Michael=20Gillham?= <[e-mail]>
Subject: WANTED! THE SAINTS "(I'm) Stranded" LP

WANTED!

THE SAINTS "(I'm) Stranded" LP in ex/ex condition. I'd
prefer the original Australian pressing (EMI EMC
25708, 1977), but I'd consider any other pressings.



________________________________________________________________
Nokia 5510 looks weird sounds great.
Go to http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/nokia/ discover and win it!
The competition ends 16 th of December 2001.

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Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 20:45:34 +0100
From: "Remco Takken" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (nz) Konk Pack in Holland

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Review in Newspaper De Volkskrant today, sorry for sloppy translations =
and unintended weird wordplay:

Free Jazz of the uncompromising kind
Music: Rumor, december 6th, Lantaren/ Venster, Rotterdam. Tonight =
(Saturday) in Theater Kikker and Sjuhuis, Utrecht.

Tetzepi from Amsterdam is at length the hippest Dutch big band of the =
moment. Their music is ever growing, but maintains the solid =
rock-versus-improv sounds from their beginnings. At the Rumor festival, =
thursday night in Rotterdam, the group seemed to be a step ahead of all =
expectations. No electronics or samples, as on their latest cd SHU =
(Trytone/ BVHaast), but indeed a completely revised solistic concept. =
Damien Cluzel succesfully derailed his accompanists with spiky guitar =
effects, while trompeter Jimmy Sernesky carefully stayed just between =
all the right notes. Double bass and piano could hardly keep a grip on =
the lot.

It made up a nice counterbalance between all those tightly written =
passages, held together by their dancing director Wouter Hakhoff. Soon =
there's more of this newfound direction in Tetzepi's music. During The =
Festival in the Shape of an Egg (on december 19-22) these musicians will =
work together with the experimentalists of The Karnatic Lab: young =
Amsterdammers who dive into South-Indian classical musics to find the =
secrets behind those intrigueing in-between space unused in western =
scales.=20

Tetzepi will undoubtedly go back to electronics and distortion in the =
near future, during last thursday's Rumor concert electricity was =
handled well enough by another group. Konk Pack played free jazz of the =
most uncompromising kind: with added amplification. Cologne based =
keyboard player Thomas Lehn turned out to be a synthesizer virtuoso, =
playing perfectly in balance with the ragged hawaian guitar of Tim =
Hodgkinson, and the electronically prepared drum set of Roger Turner.=20

The British drummer looked fearsome, with his bold head, and rattling =
bike chains. Luckily he also came up with featherlight bell sounds, =
coming out of stainless steel drumsticks. The sound of Hodgkinsons =
hawaian guitar deemed unrecognisable throughout. That was mainly due to =
his unorthodox playing style: with little sticks, brushes and effect =
pedals Hodgkinson scraped all romantic and false sentimentality from the =
instrument.=20

Konk Pack did away with instant notes from taperecorders, and =
deadserious, but extremely difficult music scores. And with their solid =
walls of sound and whisperingly soft interplay, the group also referred =
to a breaking point in improvised music, around 1970. The moment that =
the political fire of free jazz got loaded with electricity. Back then, =
the fire was extinguished by big record companies, advertising =
technocratic jazz-rock and slick fusion for a wide audience.=20

It is only now, that young labels like Erstwhile, Grob and Durian dare =
to invest in this dangerous music. And if a true revolution is very =
likely to be too far-fetched in our days, a cool breeze seems fair =
enough.

Remco Takken


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Rotterdam, the=20
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samples,=20
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revised=20
solistic concept. Damien Cluzel succesfully derailed his accompanists =
with spiky=20
guitar effects, while trompeter Jimmy Sernesky carefully stayed just =
between all=20
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lot.</P>
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passages,=20
held together by their dancing director Wouter Hakhoff. Soon =
there’s more of=20
this newfound direction in Tetzepi’s music. During The Festival in =
the Shape of=20
an Egg (on december 19-22) these musicians will work together with the=20
experimentalists of The Karnatic Lab: young Amsterdammers who dive into=20
South-Indian classical musics to find the secrets behind those =
intrigueing=20
in-between space unused in western scales. </P>
<P>Tetzepi will undoubtedly go back to electronics and distortion in the =
near=20
future, during last thursday’s Rumor concert electricity was =
handled well enough=20
by another group. Konk Pack played free jazz of the most uncompromising =
kind:=20
with added amplification. Cologne based keyboard player Thomas Lehn =
turned out=20
to be a synthesizer virtuoso, playing perfectly in balance with the =
ragged=20
hawaian guitar of Tim Hodgkinson, and the electronically prepared drum =
set of=20
Roger Turner. </P>
<P>The British drummer looked fearsome, with his bold head, and rattling =
bike=20
chains. Luckily he also came up with featherlight bell sounds, coming =
out of=20
stainless steel drumsticks. The sound of Hodgkinsons hawaian guitar =
deemed=20
unrecognisable throughout. That was mainly due to his unorthodox playing =
style:=20
with little sticks, brushes and effect pedals Hodgkinson scraped all =
romantic=20
and false sentimentality from the instrument. </P>
<P>Konk Pack did away with instant notes from taperecorders, and =
deadserious,=20
but extremely difficult music scores. And with their solid walls of =
sound and=20
whisperingly soft interplay, the group also referred to a breaking point =
in=20
improvised music, around 1970. The moment that the political fire of =
free jazz=20
got loaded with electricity. Back then, the fire was extinguished by big =
record=20
companies, advertising technocratic jazz-rock and slick fusion for a =
wide=20
audience. </P>
<P>It is only now, that young labels like Erstwhile, Grob and Durian =
dare to=20
invest in this dangerous music. And if a true revolution is very likely =
to be=20
too far-fetched in our days, a cool breeze seems fair enough.</P><B>
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Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 22:55:55 +0000 (GMT)
From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Michael=20Gillham?= <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: WANTED! THE SAINTS "(I'm) Stranded" LP

>You're definitely stranded far from home, looking
>for a hard to find punk rock LP on the Zorn list.

Not at all, my friend. I find it highly unlikely that
every single person on this list just listens to Zorn
and related music. If it were the case, then I truely
sympathise with you all, and more than than anything,
I would be very disappointed.



________________________________________________________________
Nokia 5510 looks weird sounds great.
Go to http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/nokia/ discover and win it!
The competition ends 16 th of December 2001.

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Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 13:29:50 +0100
From: "Remco Takken" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: WANTED! THE SAINTS "(I'm) Stranded" LP

  >You're definitely stranded far from home, looking
  >for a hard to find punk rock LP on the Zorn list.

  Not at all, my friend. I find it highly unlikely that
  every single person on this list just listens to Zorn
  and related music. If it were the case, then I truely
  sympathise with you all, and more than than anything,
  I would be very disappointed.

  Hey I'm sorry, it was all in good fun. 'Stranded far from home' is a quote
from the album you are looking for! So you see, I am not listening only to
Zorn and related musics... I don't own a copy of 'Stranded' though.
  Still friends?
  Greetings, Remco Takken


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Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 06:26:29 -0600
From: Herb Levy <[e-mail]>
Subject: Jim O'Rourke interview

Hi gang,

I ran across this & thought all y'all might be interested:

<http://www.rocksbackpages.com/news/0812_parnes_orourke.html>

The overall Web site has lots of old British rock criticism that may
or may not be of use.

Bests,

Herb

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Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 10:27:02 -0400
From: "Neil H. Enet" <[e-mail]>
Subject: The Locust

Hello list,

    has anyone heard the Hardcore band "The Locust"?  Any thoughts on them?

Thank you

Neil H. Enet
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NP. FAITH NO MORE king for, a day fool for a lifetime

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Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 17:39:49 +0100
From: "Christian Isendahl" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Intro

Hi all,
I=B4m brand new to the list, so I don=B4t know whether this is a high =
frequency one or what yet. Anyway, FYI I=B4m Swedish, have been a Zorn =
fan for a few years and have a bunch of his records. Got my last couple =
of ones last week, The Circle Maker and Cobra, of which I find the =
former one particularly interesting. A beautiful record... Don=B4t know =
whether this is koscher around here, but I=B4d love to trade for =
liveshows. If interested, please send me a note and I=B4ll email you my =
list.

All the best!/Christian


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Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 17:53:00 +0100
From: Rob Allaert <[e-mail]>
Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?List_Identity_N=B02?=

Someone wrote:

>> You're definitely stranded far from home, looking
>> for a hard to find punk rock LP on the Zorn list.

Well, it does make you think. I love the idea of having Zorn in the middle
of the wide circle of musical tastes, since his own circle is really wide
as well. I guess he truly is the 'circle maker'. Anyway.

To me there are two main directions happening on the list. Some enjoy to
experiment in a jazz, classical & world vein. Others like to experiment
with rock. I know there's a lot more in between and beyond. But I suppose
there's a group that really wonders why all the mr. bungle and metal talk
needs to happen on this list. While others feel akward reading about
Ellington and even Masada.

I know it's all Zorn's fault because he once created Naked City and opened
the door for the rock fans. I for one, wouldn't mind a new list for the
metalheads to keep this Zornlist more focused. Ok, flame on !!! ;-)

    greetings,
      Rob @ risk
        np: Mark Dresser - Marinade


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