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From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest)
To: zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Zorn List Digest V3 #395
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Zorn List Digest Monday, April 23 2001 Volume 03 : Number 395
In this issue:
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Amon Tobin (was: Re: Odp: S≤nar Festival 2001)
Maruo Suehiro
RE: Maruo Suehiro
Re: Maruo Suehiro
Suehiro Maruo
Re: Suehiro Maruo
Re: Zornheads
accents and sounds
book of heads
Odp: Upcoming Tzadik releases
G- Force? G- team?
Mao's Moon
unwrapping the gift
Re: Upcoming Tzadik releases
disc review and a Lounge Lizard experience...
Re: Book of Heads
Pharmacopia
The Well-Tuned Piano DVD
Re: Book of Heads
Re: Book of Heads
Fantomas - live in Europe
Re: Book of Heads
Re: Book of Heads
Zorn's "Songs for the Hemetic Theatre"
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Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 08:39:37 +0200
From: patRice <iqhouse@yahoo.de>
Subject: Amon Tobin (was: Re: Odp: S≤nar Festival 2001)
Dave Trenkel wrote:
> I saw Tobin DJ-ing a few years
> back, and it was pretty thoroughly underwhelming. Hopefully, he's gotten
> better.
I read an interview with Tobin some time ago - he said that he doesn't
consider himself a technically good DJ. Said he's not even interested in
becoming good at it. He feels that what's important is the programming
of his DJ sets; and he said that he considers himself pretty good in
that field. (On another list I've subscribed to - for DJs - that's the
point of discussion currently: technically good DJ vs. DJ who knows how
to programme his sets.)
patRice
np: The Melvins, The Maggot
nr: Various, Japanese Tattoo Artist Horiyoshi's World
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Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 08:54:10 +0200
From: patRice <iqhouse@yahoo.de>
Subject: Maruo Suehiro
Hi y'all...
Has anyone ever seen one of the books available by Maruo Suehiro? (The
guy who made the illustrations used inside the Naked City Elektra debut
CD booklet.)
Comments would be very much appreciated.
patRice
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Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 11:09:15 -0400
From: "Chad Mairn" <cmairn@tampabay.rr.com>
Subject: RE: Maruo Suehiro
I have 'Mr. Arashi's Amazing Freak Show' by Suehiro Maruo. Basically, it is
about a lost orphan girl who decides to travel with a freak show. The
graphic novel is in black and white and has its surreal and violent
qualities, which everyone is probably familiar with. However,
there are some fairly beautiful scenes as well.
The characters are certainly unique. For instance, the story introduces the
human worm, Kanabun the boy-girl, Hohichi the human pretzel, the snake woman
etc. etc. It is definitely worth checking out!
Original Message-----
From: owner-zorn-list@lists.xmission.com
[mailto:owner-zorn-list@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of patRice
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 2:54 AM
To: zorn-list@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Maruo Suehiro
Hi y'all...
Has anyone ever seen one of the books available by Maruo Suehiro? (The
guy who made the illustrations used inside the Naked City Elektra debut
CD booklet.)
Comments would be very much appreciated.
patRice
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Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 17:53:16 +0200
From: patRice <iqhouse@yahoo.de>
Subject: Re: Maruo Suehiro
Hi Chad...
Thanks a lot for your comment.
I think you convinced me to order a copy.
Recently I also discovered another Japanese illustrator/painter, named
Toshio Saeki. Very good stuff, but his first two books are no longer
published. Can only be found on Bookfinder - at rather high prices. :-(
patRice
np: Naked City, Naked City
nr: s.f.a
Chad Mairn wrote:
>
> I have 'Mr. Arashi's Amazing Freak Show' by Suehiro Maruo. Basically, it is
> about a lost orphan girl who decides to travel with a freak show. The
> graphic novel is in black and white and has its surreal and violent
> qualities, which everyone is probably familiar with. However,
> there are some fairly beautiful scenes as well.
>
> The characters are certainly unique. For instance, the story introduces the
> human worm, Kanabun the boy-girl, Hohichi the human pretzel, the snake woman
> etc. etc. It is definitely worth checking out!
- -
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Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 11:23:45 -0700
From: Tosh <tosh@loop.com>
Subject: Suehiro Maruo
Whenever I go to Japan I try to pick up his mangas (Japanese comic books).
I think his work is fantastic. They are sort of a combination of retro
Japan (20's era), pornography with a big Georges Bataille aesthetic thrown
in.
As far as I know there is only one title in English, but still it is worth
picking up the Japanese books because they are so beautiful. I am kind of
surprise that there is not a big cult for him in the West.
Also an additional 'cultural' note about Maruo's work - some of the models
used in his stories/images are actual Japanese showbiz figures from the
Twenties and Thirties. So there is that aspect of Japanese pop culture
that is missing in the translation.
The comics in Japan are only about $18.00 (well worth it). I wonder if
there is a store in the U.S. that carries them?
- --
Tosh Berman
TamTam Books
http://www.tamtambooks.com
>
>
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Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 15:26:17 EDT
From: Knutboy@aol.com
Subject: Re: Suehiro Maruo
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I've been able to order quite a few through Kino Kinea here in New York.
Usually $20 bucks a pop, and a bargain. Amazing work.
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>I've been able to order quite a few through Kino Kinea here in New York.
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Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 23:27:45 EDT
From: DvdBelkin@aol.com
Subject: Re: Zornheads
In a message dated 4/19/01 3:53:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
DvdBelkin@aol.com writes:
> How's the Book of Heads?
You know, the Zorn guitar etudes played by Ribot. Anybody?
David
np: Epiphany by Company
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Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 10:57:14 +0200
From: "Francesco Martinelli" <fmartinelli@tin.it>
Subject: accents and sounds
.> >(And
> > Francesco, if you're out there reading this, how am I going to identify
you
> > at Tonic this week?)
I didnt read it - I was at Tonic only for the Thursday gig though. I met
Brandon Evans, Bruce Gallanter, saw Kevin Norton, Bruce Eisenbeil, Mark
Dresser, Steve Dalachinsky, besides the musicians and the Master of
Ceremonies of course.
> Steve, look for the guy who looks just like Lopez but speaks with a
> charming Italian accent!
Thanks - I had mixed reviews, so to speak, about that in my recent trip. Of
course when someone mentions it I tend to become self conscious and it gets
worse. Or maybe in an American speaking context it does sound different.
NP - Pat Martino, the recent reissue of Live! and Consciousness on 32 Jazz.
That's what a week in Philly does....
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Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 12:34:42 -0000
From: "Arthur Gadney" <a_gadney@hotmail.com>
Subject: book of heads
>How's the Book of Heads?
Essential. I would call it a classic. Probably the most revolutionary and
original thing Zorn has ever done. Ribot's playing is unbelievable as well.
Not easy listening though. Very chaotic. If you can get the full score, do
so, and follow it while listening.
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Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 12:48:09 +0200
From: "Marcin Gokieli" <marcingokieli@go2.pl>
Subject: Odp: Upcoming Tzadik releases
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Smith <ssmith36@sprynet.com>
> Filmworks X
Anyone has any more precise info?
Marcin Gokieli
marcin.gokieli@mospan.pl marcingokieli@go2.pl
Generally speaking, if a philosopher offers to 'dissolve' the problem
you are working on, tell him to go climb a tree - Jerry Fodor
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Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 18:17:39 +0200
From: "Marcin Gokieli" <marcingokieli@go2.pl>
Subject: G- Force? G- team?
Hi,
Anyone remembers a japanese cartoon called G-force or G - team (it was
called 'zaloga g' in Poland)? A kind of super cheesy sf cartoon about
a group of brave people fighting the evil Zoltar?
A friend of mine wants to cover the music from that glorious movie, it
was a classic in Polnd some 20 years ago... maybe the first such thing
here. If anyone could help in finding the tune, i'd be extremely
grateful.
PS: I sent this message from another account, so two copies of it may
arrive on the list. But it's VERY important ;-)
Marcin Gokieli
marcin.gokieli@mospan.pl marcingokieli@go2.pl
Generally speaking, if a philosopher offers to 'dissolve' the problem
you are working on, tell him to go climb a tree - Jerry Fodor
Marcin Gokieli
marcin.gokieli@mospan.pl marcingokieli@go2.pl
Generally speaking, if a philosopher offers to 'dissolve' the problem
you are working on, tell him to go climb a tree - Jerry Fodor
- -
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Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 17:49:44 -0000
From: "thomas chatterton" <chatterton23@hotmail.com>
Subject: Mao's Moon
Well, here in Canada, where it appears to be a (thought) crime to sell John
Zorn CDs, I managed to find a copy of 'The Gift', oddly enough at a
classical music speciality shop, on the first day I started working there as
the jazz/world music buyer. However, listening to the haunting 'Mao's Moon'
(track 6) with its gorgeous Dave Douglas trumpet solo, I can't help but
think that I've heard this theme somewhere before, even though it is
credited to Mr. Zorn. Anyone else notice this? Any ideas where that theme
originates?
np: The Gift (but I promise I won't look at the pictures!)
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Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 22:33:12 +0200
From: Rob Allaert <Rob@llaert.NU>
Subject: unwrapping the gift
Zorn-agains,
I've unwrapped the Gift and somehow succeeded to not interpret the
pictures in a bad way. But still, that picture with the beaten girl with
the eye bandage with hands all over. How do the 'yeah'-sayers deal with
this one ?
greetings,
Rob @ risk
np: a 1000 evenings - Dave Douglas
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Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 21:48:00 -0400 (EDT)
From: konrad <konrad@panix.com>
Subject: Re: Upcoming Tzadik releases
>
> RADICAL JEWISH CULTURE
> Jewlia Eisenberg
I believe this will be the a capella version of the band Charming Hostess,
Jewlia accompanied by Carla Kihlstedt and Nina Rolle. They're from
Oakland and also play as a larger ensemble with guys backing them who used
to be in the Oakland art/punk band Idiot Flesh. One time this lineup
played a gigue where Frith joined them for a half a set, and they even
performed some Art Bears songs.
> ARCHIVAL SERIES
> Bosch/Beuys
Does anyone know anything about this Beuys one? Are we talking Heironymus
Bosch here or the tool company?
> ORACLES
> Carla Kihlstedt
This i suspect will be Carla's solo violin and voice songs. She's pretty
incredible, and if you live in the Bay Area you can see her play pretty
often. You may know her from Tin Hat Trio fame.
konrad
^Z
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Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 09:13:11 +0100 (WET DST)
From: Ricardo Reis <l43384@alfa.ist.utl.pt>
Subject: disc review and a Lounge Lizard experience...
Hi Z-people!
One disc and one weird concert:
1st, the disc:
Mao Morta is a portuguese group who carved a niche on rock-underground
world here, using their work to express a political statement (to the
music, this is unimportant as far i'm concerned). Their last disc,
"Primavera de Destrocos" ("spring of wreckage" in a free translation) is
out. I thought on given it a light review for the list, maybe some of you
would be interested in listening to it (and i would be very interested in
knowing your opinion, especially because i doubt you understand portuguese
and so are not influenced by lyrics):
# Mao Morta, "Primavera de Destrocos", EMI/Valentin de Carvalho:
The disc uses a lot of guitar riff, simple figures to accentuate
the declamation of the vocal lider, Adolfo Luxuria Canibal. It's
interesting this use, like a companion in his "singing" (like walking) or
to give emphasis to his silence. Canibal's voice is deep, going in grave
tones, it sometimes remembers me of Sepultura vocalist (first song)
although i can understand all he says :). He doesn't sings but you can
rather compare this to a spoken word with music.
Although i make some association with Trent Reznor's NiN it's only
a slight feeling in some of the songs (the first basically) due to the
evolution of expressed feelings (Downward spiral). The lyrics (and so the
"reading"), goes through some pain, rage, the silent kind, growing up,
exploding or dying away but the motives (musical and lyrics) are
particular to the group.
They used some oriental motives, tibetan like, on one of the songs
(3, "tu disseste") and a cricket singing sampler, and, on the background
of another (4, "penso o que penso") use some ambient motives, like water
running (read it was a sampling of water drums), for instance. On the song
"Humano" a sampler of W.S.Bourrougs reading "Bradley the buyer" is used to
a good effect, responding with a question to the Canibal's musings. This
song also has an effective use of strings through the use of sampling.
Another, homage to a portuguese author's book (Mario Henrique Letria
"Tales of the Tonic-Gin") obeys to a cabaret style evolution.
Another instruments that appear in some songs (through sampling or
direct playing): bass, drums, hammond, sax, vibraphone, piano, trumpet,
whistle, water drums, violin, berimbau...)
Oh, yeah... I started this afternoon (i'm writing this the 22th)
thinking that I should write a review of John Lourie and the Lounge
Lizards concert here at Lisbon. Then i realised that the concert is only
in late June and i've dreamt it this night... gurk, someone has been
pouring things on my food...
greets,
Ricardo Reis
"NON SERVIAM"
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Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 03:56:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: Andy Marks <andywmarks@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Book of Heads
I've always wondered why the score wasn't
included with this. Sure, there's a little but
it's barely legible. Anybody know where to get
the score?
>>How's the Book of Heads?
>Essential. I would call it a classic. Probably the
most revolutionary and
>original thing Zorn has ever done. Ribot's playing is
unbelievable as well.
>Not easy listening though. Very chaotic. If you can
get the full score, do
>so, and follow it while listening.
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Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 09:35:50 -0400
From: "& c." <parksplace@hotmail.com>
Subject: Pharmacopia
Has any one else recieved an email from a band called Pharmacopia? I don't
know how I got on their mailing list. I wonder if this is connected with
the list on any one on it.
Zach
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Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 10:38:26 -0400
From: David Beardsley <xouoxno@virtulink.com>
Subject: The Well-Tuned Piano DVD
Some folks here might be interested:
The Well-Tuned Piano in The Magenta Lights DVD
Installation Opens in Germany
and
Just Dreams Announces Release of La Monte Young / Marian Zazeela
DVD of The Well-Tuned Piano in The Magenta Lights
http://lamonteyoung.com
- --
* D a v i d B e a r d s l e y
* 49/32 R a d i o "all microtonal, all the time"
* http://www.virtulink.com/immp/lookhere.htm
* hint hint ---> http://mp3.com/davidbeardsley
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Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 15:27:12 -0000
From: "thomas chatterton" <chatterton23@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Book of Heads
>From: Andy Marks <andywmarks@yahoo.com>
> >>How's the Book of Heads?
>
> >Essential. I would call it a classic. Probably the
>most revolutionary and original thing Zorn has ever done. Ribot's playing
>is unbelievable as well.
Well, I beg to differ on this one, I found it boring and predictable,
Ribot's attempt at 'outside' guitar playing is too derivative of Fred
Frith...
np:Burnt Friedman Con Ritmo
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Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 17:35:12 +0200
From: patRice <iqhouse@yahoo.de>
Subject: Re: Book of Heads
thomas chatterton wrote:
> >From: Andy Marks <andywmarks@yahoo.com>
>
> > >>How's the Book of Heads?
> >
> > >Essential. I would call it a classic. Probably the
> >most revolutionary and original thing Zorn has ever done. Ribot's playing
> >is unbelievable as well.
>
> Well, I beg to differ on this one, I found it boring and predictable,
> Ribot's attempt at 'outside' guitar playing is too derivative of Fred
> Frith...
So it's Zorn who's to "blame" really, isn't it?
I mean - he wrote all the pieces...
Wasn't "The Book of Heads" also originally written for some other guitar
player?
patRice
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Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 18:06:03 +0200
From: patRice <iqhouse@yahoo.de>
Subject: Fantomas - live in Europe
Hi ther...
Thought some of you might be interested:
Looks as if FANTOMAS will be touring Europe in July.
I'll definitely go check them out...
patRice
np: Depeche Mode, 101
nr: Eiji Yoshikawa, Taiko
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Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 17:03:48 -0000
From: "thomas chatterton" <chatterton23@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Book of Heads
>From: patRice <iqhouse@yahoo.de>
>
>So it's Zorn who's to "blame" really, isn't it?
>I mean - he wrote all the pieces...
>
Interesting point...not being familiar with the parameters of the score, I
am unable to discern how much the performer brings into this work...in any
case, no blame!
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Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 19:08:30 +0200
From: patRice <iqhouse@yahoo.de>
Subject: Re: Book of Heads
thomas chatterton wrote:
>
> >From: patRice <iqhouse@yahoo.de>
> >
> >So it's Zorn who's to "blame" really, isn't it?
> >I mean - he wrote all the pieces...
> >
>
> Interesting point...not being familiar with the parameters of the score, I
> am unable to discern how much the performer brings into this work...in any
> case, no blame!
Well - I don't know neither.
But as far as I remember, most of it is rather clearly written out.
Somebody else might know better...?!
patRice
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Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 17:34:20 EDT
From: Orangejazz@aol.com
Subject: Zorn's "Songs for the Hemetic Theatre"
Anyone have any information on this upcoming release?
from,
matt
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