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From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest) To: zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: Zorn List Digest V3 #300 Reply-To: zorn-list Sender: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Zorn List Digest Friday, February 23 2001 Volume 03 : Number 300 In this issue: - Steve Lacy Trio in Atlanta on 3/9 John Fahey: 1939-2001 Re: Oregon Re: John Fahey: 1939-2001 Re: John Fahey: 1939-2001 bailey/ruins Denio? Re: Denio? Re: bailey/ruins Re: kind of AMM record from 1969! John Fahey, 1939-2001 Re: Avant mag/FMR Records Web sites? Re: Avant mag/FMR Records Web sites? Jazzos.com Re: John Fahey: 1939-2001 Re: Avant mag/FMR Records Web sites? Re: mottomo otomo Barry Guy ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:00:26 -0800 From: Brad Syna <dncac@mindspring.com> Subject: Steve Lacy Trio in Atlanta on 3/9 The Steve Lacy Trio is performing in Atlanta,GA on March 9 at the Red Light Cafe at 8 & 10:30pm. check out www.redlightcafe.com or call 404 874 7828 for more details The Coalition for Creative Music presents... "...masterly samurai of the soprano sax..." -Val Cleary, The Toronto Star THE STEVE LACY TRIO Steve Lacy, soprano sax Jean-Jacques Avenel, bass John Betsch, drums Concert: March 6th, 8PM Old Main Chapel, CU-Boulder Campus $10, CU-Students are FREE with ID No advance tickets, begin selling at 7PM, doors open at 7:30PM Clinic: March 6th, 3 PM UMC Forum Room, CU-Boulder campus Admission is FREE Steve Lacy is a throw-back and undisputed master of the soprano saxophone and tireless innovator whose music is as fresh today as it was 40 years ago. He has one of the most recognizable sounds in jazz. His playing has been celebrated by perennial awards from Down Beat magazine as the top soprano saxophonist, the prestigious MacArthur Foundation Fellowship the "genius" award in 1992 and the across-the-board respect and admiration of fans and fellow musicians alike. For more information, please call the Coalition Hotline at 303.735.3163, or email Matt Plummer at plummerm@colorado.edu - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 20:51:05 -0500 From: "Caleb T. Deupree" <cdeupree@erinet.com> Subject: John Fahey: 1939-2001 From another list: John Fahey died this morning following heart bypass surgery earlier this week. John went into the hospital last week following several weeks of chest and arm pain and was told he'd had a heart attack. He elected to have the bypass--sextuple, as it turned out--with a sober but optimistic outlook. He had the operation Monday morning and remained heavily sedated thereafter. By Wednesday night, his kidneys had shut down and, following a further unsuccessful heart procedure Thursday morning, he was placed on life support. He was removed from life support sometime around 11 am today. - -- Caleb Deupree cdeupree@erinet.com How old would you be if you didn't know how old you were? - -- Satchel Paige - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 20:00:43 -0600 From: Herb Levy <herb@eskimo.com> Subject: Re: Oregon > >In a message dated 2/22/01 12:23:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, >chatterton23@hotmail.com writes: > > > > These may be the first to come from the 'jazz' side of things, but don't > > forget that 'rock' bands like the (U.S.) Kaleidoscope with David Lindley, > > Yardbirds, Incredible String Band, Osibisa, Devil's Anvil, etc. were mixing > > > >And if I'm not mistaken, Jade Warrior would belong in there too, a little >later. > >Dale. Devil's Anvil - haven't thought of that record in decades - thanks for the memories. & In the context of recording/performing chronologically before Oregon & McLaughlin, Jade Warrior was late enough that they started out roughly the same time. Kaleidoscope, Devil's Anvil, Yardbirds, et al were active in the early to mid-1960s. I think Jade Warrior's first disc came out around the same time as Inner Mounting Flame and the First Oregon disc (though this may have been a year or two later) in the early 1970s. - - Herb - -- Herb Levy P O Box 9369 Forth Wort, TX 76147 817 377-2983 herb@eskimo.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 20:57:47 -0500 From: Brian Olewnick <olewnick@gis.net> Subject: Re: John Fahey: 1939-2001 Caleb T. Deupree wrote: > John Fahey died this morning following heart bypass surgery earlier this > week. Awful news. A wonderful, wonderful musician. Brian Olewnick - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 21:12:28 -0500 From: "Caleb T. Deupree" <cdeupree@erinet.com> Subject: Re: John Fahey: 1939-2001 At 08:57 PM 2/22/01 -0500, Brian Olewnick wrote: > >Awful news. A wonderful, wonderful musician. Complete agreement. Fahey was my introduction to independent music many years ago, definitely one of the turning points in my musical life. - -- Caleb Deupree cdeupree@erinet.com How old would you be if you didn't know how old you were? - -- Satchel Paige - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 21:14:57 EST From: ObviousEye@aol.com Subject: bailey/ruins - --part1_91.7435123.27c721a1_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit does anyone have an opinion on the Ruins/Derek Bailey album "Saisoro"? i heard one track i really enjoyed...very subtle playing by Bailey. i like his more calm, textured playing the best. i am also interested in hearing: Arcana, Nucleus, and Zorn/parker/bailey's "HARRAS". any opinions welcome. ben o neb - --part1_91.7435123.27c721a1_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML>does anyone have an opinion on the Ruins/Derek Bailey album "Saisoro"? i heard one track i really enjoyed...very subtle playing by Bailey. i like his more calm, textured playing the best. i am also interested in hearing: Arcana, Nucleus, and Zorn/parker/bailey's "HARRAS". any opinions welcome. ben o neb</HTML> - --part1_91.7435123.27c721a1_boundary-- - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:48:25 -0700 From: "Matthew W Wirzbicki (S)" <M_WIRZBICKI@ColoradoCollege.edu> Subject: Denio? After seeing the victo schedule I'm curious enough to ask: What are people's opinions here regarding Amy Denio? I saw her and Lopez play this past summer in Boulder, CO. They each played a solo set and then they performed in duo. It seemed to me that a number of people in the audience actually knew Denio personally (i'm not sure if she's local or what). I'm just confused: I found that she had a cutsy sense of humor and an interesting stage presence but I didn't find her music to be anything special. Her chords were interesting but her songs seemed one sided and I don't understand the pairing. I found their set together to be dry (she was basically playing an electronic drone of some kind and Lopez was building around her). I really enjoyed Francisco Lopez's set however. I don't know what to call his music but it was definitely an experiece to be in that room. Am I missing something? Matt Wirzbicki - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 21:51:46 -0500 From: "Caleb T. Deupree" <cdeupree@erinet.com> Subject: Re: Denio? At 06:48 PM 2/22/01 -0700, Matthew W Wirzbicki (S) wrote: > >What are people's opinions here regarding Amy Denio? Denio has a long and varied career, from the energetic avant rock of Tone Dogs (which also introduced Zony Mash's Fred Chalenor to the masses) and a number of Chris Cutler's groups (including the amazing (EC) Nudes album and the more recent Science Group), to a jazzier Billy Tipton Memorial Sax Quartet (who has recorded with an equally amazing and former Victo guest Lithuanian group Ne Zhedali). She brings an energy to a group that is unique, and her singing and lyrics are also very unusual. That said, her solo work that I've heard leaves me unimpressed, and her recent collaboration with Lopez was unmistakeably a Lopez album (although a fairly good one). I'll enjoy her playing more when she returns to a rock group. - -- Caleb Deupree cdeupree@erinet.com How old would you be if you didn't know how old you were? - -- Satchel Paige - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 22:34:59 -0500 From: Mathieu Belanger <belanmat@MAGELLAN.UMontreal.CA> Subject: Re: bailey/ruins Hello, >i am also interested in hearing: (...) Zorn/parker/bailey's "HARRAS". I really like _Harras_. As I said earlier this week, I still have to fully explore Bailey's work so I can't say where it stands in it. Bailey is playing electricly, sometimes very noisy, soemtimes less. Although it sounds like him, Zorn's playing is different than what you can hear with Masada and the other projects to me. It does not always fit perfectly with Bailey, but it's still nice. William Parker is doing a very good job. He creates some very solid fundations to the music, but he adds some nice texture to the whole thing. Hope it helps, Mathieu (I feel my English is horrible tonight, sorry!) - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 22:38:09 EST From: JonAbbey2@aol.com Subject: Re: kind of AMM record from 1969! In a message dated 2/21/01 6:06:45 PM, JonAbbey2@aol.com writes: << SILVER PYRAMID: Eddie Prevost Recorded live during the Music Now Festival, London in 1969 Keith Rowe; Cornelius Cardew; Lou Gare; Eddie Prevost. 2001 - Matchless (UK), 40 (CD) <it's not really out yet, first of all.>>> I'm commenting on my own comment here; Forced Exposure is now listing it as in stock, along with a couple of other new Matchless titles by young, fairly unknown musicians. I have heard the Bark! record, and it's pretty good, worth checking out. Jon www.erstwhilerecords.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 22:09:22 -0600 From: pedro moreno <carbuncle@mail.utexas.edu> Subject: John Fahey, 1939-2001 This note from Dean Blackwood from Revenant Records... >John Fahey died this morning in Salem Oregon, following heart bypass surgery earlier this week. > >John went into the hospital last week following several weeks of chest and arm pain and was told he'd had a heart attack. He elected to have the bypass--sextuple, as it turned out--with a sober but optimistic outlook. He had the operation Monday morning and remained heavily sedated thereafter. By Wednesday night, his kidneys had shut down and, following a further unsuccessful heart procedure Thursday morning, he was placed on life support. He was removed from life support sometime around 11 am today. > >Thanks to all who befriended John over the years. He wasn't always good at expressing it, but he definitely got a kick out of people. PG moreno Epistrophy Arts Austin, TX http://epistrophyarts.org - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 23:17:32 EST From: JonAbbey2@aol.com Subject: Re: Avant mag/FMR Records Web sites? In a message dated 2/21/01 11:21:44 AM, Moudry@uab.edu writes: << Does anyone know when the Web sites for Avant Magazine (UK) <www.avantmag.com> and FMR Records (who still promised the ten CD Cecil box last week) <www.fmr-records.com> disappeared from existence? >> they seem to have moved to www.alternativeroute.com/avant.htm. Jon www.erstwhilerecords.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 23:27:10 EST From: JonAbbey2@aol.com Subject: Re: Avant mag/FMR Records Web sites? In a message dated 2/22/01 11:18:02 PM, JonAbbey2@aol.com writes: << << Does anyone know when the Web sites for Avant Magazine (UK) <www.avantmag.com> and FMR Records (who still promised the ten CD Cecil box last week) <www.fmr-records.com> disappeared from existence? >> they seem to have moved to www.alternativeroute.com/avant.htm >> some further investigation shows that this site hasn't been updated in a year, so I don't know what the deal is, sorry. Jon www.erstwhilerecords.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 23:28:35 EST From: Fastian@aol.com Subject: Jazzos.com - --part1_74.8076640.27c740f3_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/22/01 8:22:17 AM Pacific Standard Time, Samerivertwice@aol.com writes: > This in from Brian Zande: > > The website www.Jazzos.com carries all the Splasch recordings and a lot > more European labels. Marco runs the site. The prices are not bad once > you consider the exchange rates. My copy of the Berne/Enten Eller CD is > already on the way to the USA. > > It's a great site and has a lot of titles I couldn't find anywhere else. > check it out!!! > > Cheers, > Cadence carries the full line of Splasch recordings as well for $16.00 each. If you phone,fax, or email your order, it usually goes out the same day. I've never waited more than a week to get an order and I live on the west coast. East Coasters probably get it 3 or 4 days earlier than that. That's where I got the 1st Eller/Berne cd which is just ok by the way. Berne is really just a guest in the band. But to order something overseas if Cadence has it doesn't make much sense(cadencebuilding.com). I know it sounds like a plug, but its answering another plug. Cheers, John - --part1_74.8076640.27c740f3_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML>In a message dated 2/22/01 8:22:17 AM Pacific Standard Time, Samerivertwice@aol.com writes: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">This in from Brian Zande: The website www.Jazzos.com carries all the Splasch recordings and a lot more European labels. Marco runs the site. The prices are not bad once you consider the exchange rates. My copy of the Berne/Enten Eller CD is already on the way to the USA. It's a great site and has a lot of titles I couldn't find anywhere else. check it out!!! Cheers, Tom</BLOCKQUOTE> Cadence carries the full line of Splasch recordings as well for $16.00 each. If you phone,fax, or email your order, it usually goes out the same day. I've never waited more than a week to get an order and I live on the west coast. East Coasters probably get it 3 or 4 days earlier than that. That's where I got the 1st Eller/Berne cd which is just ok by the way. Berne is really just a guest in the band. But to order something overseas if Cadence has it doesn't make much sense(cadencebuilding.com). I know it sounds like a plug, but its answering another plug. Cheers, John np:"On the Roof"-Franky Douglas(yuck, why did I buy this cd)</BLOCKQUOTE> </HTML> - --part1_74.8076640.27c740f3_boundary-- - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 21:12:10 -0800 From: "s~Z" <keith@pfmentum.com> Subject: Re: John Fahey: 1939-2001 I've told this here before, but in honor of his passing: I saw Fahey once at UCLA's Royce Hall as part of a "Guitar Summit" back in the mid to late 70s. He walked out on the stage, stepped up to the microphone, and announced: "They have given me 45 minutes, and I want to play my entire set, so forgive me if this is a little sped up." Then he took his guitar out of his case, put fingers to strings, and played blistering gorgeous music for exactly 45 minutes, stopped dead in his tracks, and walked off the stage to futile screams for more. Blessings upon him and his music. - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 06:32:40 +0100 From: "Francesco Martinelli" <fmartinelli@tin.it> Subject: Re: Avant mag/FMR Records Web sites? Trevor said to me that the web site is down for server problems and will be back in a couple of days Francesco - ----- Original Message ----- From: <JonAbbey2@aol.com> To: Sent: Friday, February 23, 2001 5:27 AM Subject: Re: Avant mag/FMR Records Web sites? > > In a message dated 2/22/01 11:18:02 PM, JonAbbey2@aol.com writes: > > << << Does anyone know when the Web sites for Avant Magazine (UK) > <www.avantmag.com> and FMR Records (who still promised the ten CD Cecil box > last week) <www.fmr-records.com> disappeared from existence? >> > > they seem to have moved to www.alternativeroute.com/avant.htm >> > > some further investigation shows that this site hasn't been updated in a > year, so I don't know what the deal is, sorry. > > Jon > www.erstwhilerecords.com > > - > > - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 03:22:39 EST From: JonAbbey2@aol.com Subject: Re: mottomo otomo wow, such an angry post. I was hoping more people would chime in, but here=20 goes anyway... <<He represents that element of the progressive intellectual music on the=20 margins of popular culture, which Barthelme mocks. >> it's a lot easier to mock than to create. just because there are plenty of=20 musicians who talk a good game and don't back it up doesn't mean that they'r= e=20 all full of it. <<By describing his new music in grandiose terms, Otomo is simply paying=20 himself compliments about his own creativity, uniqueness, etc. etc., after=20 all he is the source of the supposed fundamentally new music.>> not really true. although he curated the festival and played in five of the=20 sets, that left 18 made up of other musicians, including Keith Rowe, G=FCnte= r=20 M=FCller, Kaffe Matthews, Erik M, Voice Crack, Taku Sugimoto, Sachiko M,=20 Toshimaru Nakamura, Werner Dafeldecker, Martin T=E9treault and Radian.=20 << For him to say that he "quietly supports this new stream" is the height o= f=20 irony, seeing as the entire paragraph is one of self-promotion and=20 self-aggrandizement. >> self-promotion and aggrandizement? it's part of the liner notes to a CD that= =20 may sell 500 copies worldwide, compiled from a festival that drew a couple o= f=20 hundred people, tops. I was the one who posted it here, not him. if you'd=20 like to personally attack me instead, bring it on. <<It's true that there are musicians consciously working to expand the frontiers of music, but to trumpet it about like this note of Otomo's is, to my thinking, the height of juvenile pretension. >> trumpet it about? are you serious? there are very few musicians around that=20= I=20 can think of who are simultaneously as accomplished and as self-effacing as=20 Otomo. as for "the height of juvenile pretension", have you read all of the Haino=20 album and track titles on your site? Jon www.erstwhilerecords.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 03:28:48 EST From: Reaboi@aol.com Subject: Barry Guy - --part1_46.10fba37a.27c77940_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was at the soundcheck at Tonic for the Barry Guy gig this Tuesday. As soon as he got there he warmed-up with a solo bass composition by Xenakis. he told an amusing story about hoe Xenakis was sure the piece was 'physically unplayable' and, when Barry performed it solo in Paris a few years ago, the composer was amost moved to tears. You shoulda been there! Cheers, Dave - --part1_46.10fba37a.27c77940_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML>I was at the soundcheck at Tonic for the Barry Guy gig this Tuesday. As soon as he got there he warmed-up with a solo bass composition by Xenakis. he told an amusing story about hoe Xenakis was sure the piece was 'physically unplayable' and, when Barry performed it solo in Paris a few years ago, the composer was amost moved to tears. You shoulda been there! Cheers, Dave </HTML> - --part1_46.10fba37a.27c77940_boundary-- - - ------------------------------ End of Zorn List Digest V3 #300 ******************************* To unsubscribe from zorn-list-digest, send an email to "majordomo@lists.xmission.com" with "unsubscribe zorn-list-digest" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. A non-digest (direct mail) version of this list is also available; to subscribe to that instead, replace all instances of "zorn-list-digest" in the commands above with "zorn-list". Back issues are available for anonymous FTP from ftp.xmission.com, in pub/lists/zorn-list/archive. These are organized by date. Problems? Email the list owner at zorn-list-owner@lists.xmission.com