In a message dated 1/26/01 2:44:59 PM, maurice@mac.com writes:
<< Are there any trombonists out there doing stuff that, well, fits in with
the
kind of thing we discuss here? Y'know, improv, maybe live
electronics, someone stretching the vocabulary or something. >>
I don't think anyone has yet mentioned Radu Malfatti, who's gone from being a
member of the Brotherhood Of Breath and the LJCO, just to mention two among
dozens of superb groups, to the new superspare style he's pioneered over the
last seven or eight years.
Malfatti hasn't had any new releases in a few years, but that will be
remedied in the next month or two, with a double CD on Grob, with Burkhard
Stangl, Franz Hautzinger and Gunter Schneider, as well as a CD on my label,
with Thomas Lehn and Phil Durrant.
Jon
www.erstwhilerecords.com
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Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 15:50:06 EST
From: JonAbbey2@aol.com
Subject: saragossa manuscript
well, after all the talk about this movie here, I rented it today. I haven't
seen it yet, but I thought I'd pass on the info printed on the videotape,
since I don't think that's been posted here yet.
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Jon
www.erstwhilerecords.com
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Date: 26 Jan 2001 13:11:23 -0800
From: Dan Given <dlgiven@altavista.com>
Subject: Re: Zorn List Digest V3 #259
> From: Maurice Rickard <maurice@mac.com>
> Subject: Avant-garde trombone?
>
> I'm trying to think of a birthday present for a
> trombone-playing friend of mine, and I'm not
> coming up with any good ideas. Are there
> any trombonists out there doing stuff that, well,
> fits in with the kind of thing we discuss here?
> Y'know, improv, maybe live electronics, someone
> stretching the vocabulary or something. I'm
> probably overlooking the obvious, so any suggestions
> would be great.
Dutch trombone player Wolter Wierbos has a great solo trombone disc on ICP called X-Calibur (subtitle something about trombone technique). It would be my first recommendation. Available through verge, cadence, maybe elsewhere. Wierbos has played with ICP Orcherstra and was in Gerry Hemingway's band for years.
Paul Rutherford is also a good choice; Discreet Harm of the Bourgouisie (Emanem) is solo and wonderful, but he plays on tons of good records.
Gunter Christmann -- also plays cello, and is one of my favorite trombone players. If you can still get it, his duet with Mats Gustafsson, one of those Okka limited editions, is great. One of the few alubms to ever scare me -- some of the transitions from extremely quiet to extremely loud are so jarring I'm still not used to them.
Dan
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Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 16:30:34 -0500
From: "Alan Kayser" <alankayser@hotmail.com>
Subject: [none]
- - --- Maurice Rickard <maurice@mac.com> wrote:
>Are there
>any trombonists out there doing stuff that, well,
>fits in with the
>kind of thing we discuss here? Y'know, improv,
>maybe live
>electronics, someone stretching the vocabulary or
>something.
Paul Rutherford and George Lewis. Lewis was able to get Braxton to swing.
Check out the Braxton Quartet with GL, great stuff with Lewis heavily
featured. Rutherford /ISKRA 1903 with Derek Bailey and Barry Guy is never
far from my CD player. Stretching, twisting, and turning the vocabulary
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Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 22:51:16 +0100
From: "Rob, the Belgian Guy" <Rob@llaert.NU>
Subject: What's he building in there ?
Zorn-agains,
A lot of you dig Tom Waits. On Mule Variations there's this great spoken
song about a man building something. Can anyone clear up this mystery for me
?
What's he building in there? We have a right to know !
Greetings,
Rob@llaert.NU
np: TW - What's he building in there
"The goal is to bring the same intensity to listening as the performer to
playing."
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Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 15:57:42 -0600 (CST)
From: Les Henderson <ljhender@midway.uchicago.edu>
Subject: Re: avant-garde trombone
Sebi Tramontana and Giancarlo Schiaffini have done some really good stuff
with trombones and electronics. I don't know where you can purchase their
music, but I remember them being really amazing when I saw them a couple
years ago.
Les Henderson
ljhender@midway.uchicago.edu
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Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 17:16:24 EST
From: Dgasque@aol.com
Subject: Re: Avant-garde trombone?
As a trombonist, I heartily endorse Rudd (RIP), Bauer, and Lewis.
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Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 17:22:31 EST
From: Dgasque@aol.com
Subject: Re: Avant-garde trombone?
In a message dated Fri, 26 Jan 2001 3:47:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, JonAbbey2@aol.com writes:
I don't think anyone has yet mentioned Radu Malfatti, who's gone from being a
member of the Brotherhood Of Breath and the LJCO, just to mention two among
dozens of superb groups, to the new superspare style he's pioneered over the
last seven or eight years.
>>
He's also on that utterly fantastic Louis Moholo Octet LP _Spirits Rejoice_ . Damn it all, why won't that album get a CD reissue? An LP transcript? Anything!?!?
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Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 17:35:38 -0500
From: Mike Chamberlain <mikec@rocler.qc.ca>
Subject: Re: Avant-garde trombone?
on 1/26/01 3:46 PM, JonAbbey2@aol.com at JonAbbey2@aol.com wrote:
If you can find the albums, Tom Walsh, who lives in Montreal, is pretty
interesting. There's one with his band NOMA, Climbing the Waltz, and one he
did with Michael Vlatkovich and David Mott called Live in Toronto 0n
Thank You Records, 5831 Rhodes Ave, St. Louis, MO 63109. Other than that,
there's Roswell Rudd, Wolter Wierbos, Jeb Bishop, and Ray Anderson.
- --Mike
>
> In a message dated 1/26/01 2:44:59 PM, maurice@mac.com writes:
>
> << Are there any trombonists out there doing stuff that, well, fits in with
> the
> kind of thing we discuss here? Y'know, improv, maybe live
> electronics, someone stretching the vocabulary or something. >>
>
> I don't think anyone has yet mentioned Radu Malfatti, who's gone from being a
> member of the Brotherhood Of Breath and the LJCO, just to mention two among
> dozens of superb groups, to the new superspare style he's pioneered over the
> last seven or eight years.
>
> Malfatti hasn't had any new releases in a few years, but that will be
> remedied in the next month or two, with a double CD on Grob, with Burkhard
> Stangl, Franz Hautzinger and Gunter Schneider, as well as a CD on my label,