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Subject: Zorn List Digest V3 #209
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Zorn List Digest Wednesday, December 20 2000 Volume 03 : Number 209
In this issue:
-
Re: Black Saint Sale @ cybermusicsurplus
Re: Black Saint Sale @ cybermusicsurplus
repainpen
Kyoto/Osaka music stores...
best of 2000
black saint @ cyber sale
denman maroney (was Re: Black Saint)
BEST OF 2000
Re: BEST OF 2000
James Carter - Layin' in the cut...
Re: Hemphill?
BEST OF 2000
best of 2000
Re: BEST OF 2000 (questions)
best of 2000
Re: best of 2000
Re: best of 2000
Re: best of 2000
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Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 16:21:19 -0600 (CST)
From: Tom Benton <rancor@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu>
Subject: Re: Black Saint Sale @ cybermusicsurplus
Evan wrote...
> Hi, I was wondering if anyone has any recommendations for essential
> Black Saint recordings that are being offered through this sale. A lot
> of them sound really appealing, but alas I can't quite afford to buy 'em
> all. So any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
Continuing with Steve Smith's assumption that Soul Note is fair game
here, I'll mention an album that's always been very dear to me, 'Force
Green' by Mark Dresser. I can only think of a small handful of albums
that illicited a reaction from me of the intensity that this one did (and
still does on occasion) in terms of being so perfectly assembled and
executed. The band includes Phil Haynes (drums), Dave Douglas (trumpet),
Denway Maroney (piano, frequently prepared), Theo Bleckmann (voice, no
words), and of course Mark Dresser (bass). I suspect no one would
disagree if I say all five of these gentleman are top notch players and
improvisers, and I would argue that the latter three are among the most
unique stylists on their respective instruments that we've got. Dresser's
compositions are long and winding and quite catchy in their own
special avant-way and allow everyone plenty of space to stretch out; this
album was my first chance to hear both Maroney and Bleckmann, and I'm
continually blown away by their abilities to dig into their respective
bags of hyper-extended techniques without sacrificing the integrity of the
group dynamic for one moment.
And don't even get me started on the brontasauristic bass prowess of Mr.
Dresser. Oh heavens, I'm getting all flustered just thinking about it...
- -
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Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 17:28:02 EST
From: JonAbbey2@aol.com
Subject: Re: Black Saint Sale @ cybermusicsurplus
In a message dated 12/19/00 5:22:41 PM, rancor@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu writes:
<< Denway Maroney (piano, frequently prepared) >>
one small correction to Tom's nicely written review: it's Denman Maroney, not
Denway. the part about him being a top notch player, improviser and unique
stylist is dead on, though. :)
Jon
www.erstwhilerecords.com
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Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 17:37:21 -0500
From: kurt_gottschalk@scni.com
Subject: repainpen
WYork:
I'd be curious about a bit more details. Do they play compositions or
imrpovisations, for example?
dollars to doughnuts in 100 percent improv. and nothing that strikes me as
particularly oliverosy, either. i'm not way familiar with her stuff, but what
i've heard seems of a different ilk, and not that compelling of one at that. i
may give her another shot next month at tonic (with susie ibarra and rosie
hertlein), but in the meantime, any oliveros defenders?
not sure what other details you're interested in. highly recommended disk, more
reflective of joe morris releases than any of the others', i think.
kg
np: clusone 3: rara avis
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Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 23:08:13
From: "Brad Elsie" <b__elsie@hotmail.com>
Subject: Kyoto/Osaka music stores...
Hi all,
I'm going to be in Japan for a few weeks and wondered if anyone is familiar
with Kyoto and Osaka and can recommend record shops that are worth checking
out. Please reply privately.
Thanks in advance.
...Brad
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Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 22:59:46 -0400
From: "Neil H. Enet" <nilugo@usa.net>
Subject: best of 2000
Hello list,
I joined this list at the beginning of 2000 and I found that you discussed
the best albums of the year, so I decided to write down a list of all the
CDs that I bought this year. Here it goes:
BEST ALBUMS RELEASED IN 2000 (in alphabetical order by artists)
MORRISSEY: the cd singles '88-91' (Great BoxSet)
PLACEBO: black market music
RECOIL: liquid
MARC RIBOT: muy divertido
JAMIE SAFT: sovlanut (excellent album)
JOHN ZORN: the big gundown (never listened to the first edition)
Sadly I didn't buy more albums released during this year, and I have to
admit I own MASADA LIVE IN SEVILLA, but I don't find it's that excellent
album you always talk about ... sorry!!!!
Now: BEST ALBUMS I DISCOVERED IN 2000, BUT RELEASED BEFORE:
CINEMATIC ORCHESTRA : motion (1999)
DJ LOGIC: project logic (1999)
NICK DRAKE: five leaves left (1969) (can't believe I never heard of this
before)
GRANT GREEN: idle moments (1963) (same goes here: thanx to a recommendation
from this list)
ENNIO MORRICONE: a fistful of film music (1995) (again here)
PAINKILLER: complete recordings (1997)
JOHN ZORN: black box (1996)
godard/spillane (1999)
live in middelheim (1999)
SOUNDTRACK: velvet goldmine (1998)
Well, that's it ... hope my student money helps me buy more albums next
year!!!!
Thanks list, for a wonderful year ... lots of recommendations ... lots of
discoveries
Neil H. Enet
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- -
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Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 21:51:11 -0800
From: "Martin Wisckol" <Martin_Wisckol@link.freedom.com>
Subject: black saint @ cyber sale
well, everything steve said -- i can't say which of those are on sale,
since i already had just about all on his list.
i just got my box from cyber in the mail today, so can only speak at this
point to:
the leaders - out here like this: average, not spectacular. chico freeman
sounds like black arthur blythe on tenor....
enrico rava -- electric five: this ain't in the penguin guide, but i'm
glad i took a chance. very, very good. a bit miles-ish, natch, but far
from the imitations we've heard from everyone lately (including
kaiser/smith's fine imitation). gianluigi trovesi's bass clarinet is
great, dolphy-esque. plus two elec gtrs, bass & drums. recommended!
ray lema/joachim kuhn -- just sampled the first cut. very promising, as
one in love with lema's nagadeef but not that satisfied with the others of
his i've heard thus far.
amina myers -- circle of time: np. amina's own albums, the ones i have at
least, are inconsistent. but through the first three cuts of this one, it
may be the best of her i've yet heard.
another dozen or so to go....
(note that if you click on the albums on cybers site, you can sample
tracks.)
less than $7 each, no tax or shipping if you order a few. affordable risk!
martin
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Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 22:35:26 -0800 (PST)
From: Scott Handley <thesubtlebody@yahoo.com>
Subject: denman maroney (was Re: Black Saint)
- --- Tom Benton <rancor@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu> wrote:
> ....Denway Maroney (piano, frequently
> prepared)...and of course Mark Dresser (bass). I
> suspect no one would disagree if I say all five of
these gentleman are top notch players and
> improvisers, and I would argue that the latter three
> are among the most
> unique stylists on their respective instruments that
> we've got...I'm continually blown away by their
> abilities to dig into their respective bags of
hyper-extended techniques without sacrificing the
integrity of the group dynamic for one moment.
>
> And don't even get me started on the brontasauristic
> bass prowess of Mr.
> Dresser.
Since we're on this, Tom's review perfectly summarizes
my feelings about the not-often-mentioned group
Tambastics, with Maroney, Dresser, percussionist Gerry
Hemingway, and flautist Robert Dick. Hemingway and
Dick have done remarkable work and both (especially
Hemingway) share Maroney's and Dresser's abilties to
hurtle through flaming hoops of extremely complex
comprovised material with _often surprising_ results.
I'm most impressed about how their employment of
extended technique never seems to become the object of
the moment----you never feel like you're hearing lines
being recited, even "with feeling", which _is_ a
feeling I get with, say, Ned Rothenberg, sometimes.
Dresser is a monster with gorgeous tone. The
self-titled recording by this group on Music and Arts
is available pretty cheap and might be of great
interest if you like FORCE GREEN (the same level of
achievement, IMHO); it seems at its most interesting
moments like something other than improvisation
altogether. I don't know. It's beautiful.
Has anyone heard the newest Maroney with Hans Tammen
(on "endangered guitar")? Can't remember it being
reviewed here.
- -----s
NP: Pierre Henry, INVESTIGATIONS (Philips France)
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Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 11:19:57 +0100 (CET)
From: =?iso-8859-1?q?efr=E9n=20del=20valle?= <efrendv@yahoo.es>
Subject: BEST OF 2000
There goes my top-list for 2000:
JOHN ZORN: "Xu-Feng"
SUSIE IBARRA: "Flower After Flower"
MEDESKI, MARTIN & WOOD: "The Dropper"
SATOKO FUJII: "Towards to West"
NED ROTHENBERG: "Ghost Stories"
TIM SPARKS: "Tanz"
JOHN ZORN: "The Big Gundown" (re-release)
FRED FRITH: "Traffic
Some CD's I purchased this year but were released
before:
TIM BERNE'S BLOODCOUNT: "Unwound"
BIG SATAN (Winter& Winter relase- can't remember the
title now)
MICHAEL FORMANEK: "Nature of the Beast"
MARC DUCRET: "L'ombra di Verdi"
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Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 05:39:52 -0500
From: Rick Lopez <bb10k@velocity.net>
Subject: Re: BEST OF 2000
Mine (9):
Mat Maneri BLUE DECCA
William Parker PAINTER'S SPRING
Eneidi/Parker/Robinson CHERRY BOX
Ibarra/Chadbourne/Dresser/Morris PAIN PEN
Ibarra's FLOWER AFTER FLOWER
Anderson, Drake, "Kidd" Jordan, William Parker: 2 days in april
Eneidi/Spearman/William Parker/Krall: Live at Radio Valencia
Parker / Guy / Lytton and Marilyn Crispell: After Appleby
Joelle Leandre Project
r
- ----------
Sessionographies: CRISPELL; IBARRA; Wm. PARKER; RIVERS; SHIPP; D.S. WARE.
Discographies: COURVOISIER; ENEIDI; MANERI,; MORRIS; SPEARMAN; WORKMAN.
Also:
- --Samuel Beckett Eulogy--Baseball & the 10,000 Things--Time Stops
- --LOVETORN--HARD BOIL-- ETC., all at: http://www.velocity.net/~bb10k
WHERE THE HELL HAVE I BEEN??? : http://www.velocity.net/~bb10k/LUCILLE.html
- -
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Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 04:05:20 -0800 (PST)
From: Theo Klaase <river_of_dogs@yahoo.com>
Subject: James Carter - Layin' in the cut...
At first listen, I thought this CD was fair, but
I expected a little more... After a few more listens,
I became aware of all these little nuances and James'
and the band were playing... Now, I can't stop
listening to the album and I think it's absolutely
fantastic. I enjoyed it so much that I bought
"chasin' the gypsy" which I'm still trying to get
into. It doesn't seem to have quite the magic of
"layin' in the cut."
=====
- -That which is Theodorus "Good bye sober day, hello milky way..."www.freeyellow.com/members7/theodorus/index.html
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Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 14:34:44 +0100
From: "Andreas Dietz" <andreasdietz@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Hemphill?
>From: Moudry <Moudry@uab.edu>
>
>Would "Fat Man and the hard blues" be the same as Hemphill's Five cord
>stud, which has the same personnel? Or, is the an unknown Tim Berne that
>I'll have to spend countless hours tracking to earth?
Hemphill does not play on Five Chord Stud and instead Tim Berne is added.
The rest of the lineup is the same.
Andreas
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Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 15:10:14 +0100
From: Tim Blechmann <TimBlechmann@gmx.de>
Subject: BEST OF 2000
This year recorded:
Christian Marclay / Otomo Yoshihide - Moving Parts
Elliott Sharp / Christian Marclay - High Noon
Vert - The K÷ln Concert
Arto Lindsay - The Prize
Kim Gordon / DJ Olive / Ikue Mori - SYR 5
This year discovered:
Golden Palominos - Dead Inside
Material - Seven Souls
DJ Krush / Toshinori Kondo - Ki-Oku
Bill Laswell - APC Tracks 1/2
Akosh S. - Eletter
Pharoah Sanders - Karma
PEACE
Tim mailto:TimBlechmann@gmx.de
- -
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Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 10:09:51 -0500
From: Eric Ong <eso200@earthlink.net>
Subject: best of 2000
Well, I thought I'd post my list before I go off on my drinking binge and
can still type, so here goes:
1) Keith Rowe/Gunter Muller/Taku Sugimoto - The World Turned Upside Down CD
(Erstwhile)
2) John Tilbury - Morton Feldman all piano 3CD (LondonHall)
3) Sachiko M - Debris 3"CD (F.M.N.)
4) Donna Regina - A Quiet Week in the House CD (Karaoke Kalk)
5) Thomas Lehn/Marcus Schmickler - Bart CD (Erstwhile)
6) Otomo Yoshihide - music for DanceArt Hong Kong's "Memory Disorder" CD
(Sonic Factory)
7) Bill Dixon - Berlin Abbozzi CD (FMP)
8) JAZZACTUEL - a collection of avant garde/free jazz/psychedelia from the
BYG/Actuel catalogue of 1969-1971 3CD (Charly)
9) e-rax - Live at the Bimhuis 1999 CD (X-OR)
10) Steve Beresford - The Bath of Surprise CD (Amoebic)
blah
- -
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Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 08:20:36 -0800 (PST)
From: Scott Handley <thesubtlebody@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: BEST OF 2000 (questions)
- --- Tim Blechmann <TimBlechmann@gmx.de> wrote:
> Elliott Sharp / Christian Marclay - High Noon
> Vert - The K÷ln Concert
> Akosh S. - Eletter
I haven't heard anything about these releases, and I
don't know anything about Vert and Akosh S. Who are
they? WHat is their music like?
- ----s
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Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 16:30:44 +0000
From: simon hopkins <simon@state51.co.uk>
Subject: best of 2000
After last year's substantial crop of great album releases, this year
has been disappointing. Lots of interesting releases, but little
which has really shined. Of what I've heard, I'd pick out the
following as essential:
Radiohead - Kid A (album of the year, I reckon)
Otomo Yoshihide - Cathode (which I think was actually a 1999 release,
but I hadn't heard it when I did last year's list. Whatever. It's a
work of genius.)
D'Angelo - Voodoo
Hoahio - OHAYO!HOAHIO!
Lewis Taylor - Lewis II
Cornelius Cardew - The Great Learning
V/A - Jazzactuel box set
Jean Luc Godard - Histoire(s) Du Cin=E9ma box set
Sonic Youth - NYC Ghosts & Flowers
Zorn - Taboo and Exile
Zorn - Godard Spillane
Mike Ladd - Welcome to the Afterfuture
Like I say, not a huge list. On the flip side, for me this has been
an extraordinary year for live shows. Off the top of my head, these
stand out (all London, except where noted):
Mr Bungle
=46antomas
The Necks
Zorn/Lombardo/Laswell/Frith (Paris)
Yamatsuka Eye DJ set (Osaka)
Masada/Masada String Trio/Bar Kohkba
Marc Ribot
Magma
Sonic Youth
Yo La Tengo (Glastonbury)
Tiny Bell Trio/Charms of the Night Sky
Thanks to all you z-listers for the usual erudition which, this year,
has been responsible for me finding out about, among many things, the
Oulipo, the films of Raul Ruiz and Korean P'ansori music. whew!
Cheers
Simon
np. Fridge - Happiness (pre-release CDR, I'm afraid!)
- --
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a state51 | 8-10 rhoda street | london e2 7ef
e simon@state51.co.uk
t 020 7729 8493
check out ---+motion
http://motion.state51.co.uk
- -
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Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 17:12:42 +0000
From: dan hill <dan@state51.co.uk>
Subject: Re: best of 2000
>Mr Bungle
>Marc Ribot
>Sonic Youth
>Tiny Bell Trio/Charms of the Night Sky
following simon hopkins pick of the year, i was lucky enough to share
the above with mr. hopkins here in london, and i'd also add the arto
lindsay group at the jazz caf=E9 in london, derek bailey and suzie
ibarra at abaixador deu in barcelona, zorn's de sade group at angel
orensanz, and thurston moore/nels cline/zeena parkins at tonic ...
there have been some great live shows indeed. particularly zorn,
ribot and arto.
but i can also say that i thought the following records were
absolutely killer (again, i *think* most of them are this year).
new releases _____________________
Otomo Yoshihide - Cathode (Tzadik)
Yo La Tengo - And Then Nothing Turned Itself Inside-Out (Matador)
Anti Pop Consortium - Tragic Epilogue (75Ark)
Arto Lindsay - Prize (Ryko)
Radian - TG 11 (Mego/Rhiz)
Heiner Goebbels - Surrogate Cities (ECM New Series)
Burnt Friedman - Con Ritmo (Nonplace)
Him - Our Point Of Departure (Perishable)
Koch-Sch=FCtz-Studer plus DJ M. Singe & DJ I-Sound - Roots and Wires (Intakt=
)
Mike Ladd - Welcome to the Afterfuture (Ozone)
Quasimoto - The Unseen (Stones Throw)
Susumu Yokota - Sakura (Leaf)
Sonic Youth - NYC Ghosts & Flowers (Geffen)
Zammuto - Willscher (ApartmentB)
John Zorn - String Quartets (Tzadik)
John Zorn - Taboo and Exile (Tzadik)
The Sea and Cake - Oui (Thrill Jockey)
Uri Caine - Zohar:Keter (Knitting Factory)
Various Artists: Ropeladder 12 (Mush)
Walter Ruttman's Weekend Remixes (Intermedium)
Radiohead - Kid A (EMI)
Orso - Long Time By (Perishable)
D'Angelo - Voodoo (EMI)
reissues ____________________
Harry Smith's Anthology of American Folk Music Vol.4 (Revenant)
John Cage - The City Wears A Slouch Hat (Organ Of Corti)
The Who: BBC Sessions (Polydor)
Kind Of Soul (Small/Sony France)
New Orleans Funk (Soul Jazz)
>Thanks to all you z-listers for the usual erudition which,
likewise!
all the best
dan.
- --
|||| dan hill [state51]
|||| new reviews on motion [19.12.2000]:
|||| mark springer | microstoria | jonathan coleclough | techno
animal vs dalek | koch-sch=FCtz-studer plus dj m. singe & dj i-sound |
fingathing | dan senn
|||| http://motion.state51.co.uk/
- -
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Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 09:21:14 -0800
From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <proussel@ichips.intel.com>
Subject: Re: best of 2000
On Wed, 20 Dec 2000 17:12:42 +0000 dan hill wrote:
>
> Mike Ladd - Welcome to the Afterfuture (Ozone)
Second time that this one is listed. What is it?
Thanks,
Patrice.
- -
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Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 12:28:42 EST
From: Velaires@aol.com
Subject: Re: best of 2000
stuff I enjoyed most in 2000:
Dave Douglas: A Thousand Evenings
Uri Caine: The Goldberg Variations
Johnny "Guitar" Watson: Rhino Blues Masters
NRBQ (s/t)
Keith Jarrett: Whisper Not
Richard Pryor: And It's DEEP, Too
Joao Gilberto: violao & voz
Jurrasic 5: Quality Control
Little Willie G: Make Up For Lost Time
stuff I only got onto this year that's been around:
Tower Of Power: Live & In Color
Charles Mingus: East Coasting
David Greenberger/Terry Adams: Duplex Planet Hour
my favorite live shows this year: Ellery eskelin (at Eagle Rock Community
Center), Killer Joey at McCabe's, Uri Caine's Mahler Project (at the Skirball
Center), Penn & Teller (at the MGM Grand), NRBQ (at the Roxy), Los Lobos (at
the Greek Theater, with guest Willie G tearing it DOWN).
still in heavy rotation like it just came out: Stevie Wonder: Songs In The
Key of Life, Bill Frisell: This Land, and Carla Bley: Fleur Carnivore
skip h
NP: Los Tres Cabelleros, Oro
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