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Zorn List Digest        Friday, April 14 2000        Volume 02 : Number 911



In this issue:
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       Francesco's Braxton Discography
       R: Francesco's Braxton Discography
       Re: Tonic improv
       Re: Tonic improv
       Re: Tonic improv
       Prelapse 4-12-00 gig
       Ponga
       Re: Ponga
       Spilllane's missing tracks
       Re: Spilllane's missing tracks
       Re: Spilllane's missing tracks
       Re: Ponga
       Re: Spilllane's missing tracks
       recent cd buy (Otomo Yoshihide)
       new derek bailey releases

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Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 18:29:45 -0400
From: Brian Olewnick <[e-mail]>
Subject: Francesco's Braxton Discography

This morning, I received Francesco Martinelli's new and very complete
Anthony Braxton Discography. He's done a wonderful job--it's a handsome
book, a valuable tool and a must for all confirmed Braxophiles.

The format is simple enough: one page devoted to each commercial release
that AB either plays on or has his music performed, stretching from
Muhal's 'Levels and Degrees of Light' from 1967 through Kevin Norton's
'For Guy Debord' of 1999, 183 releases in all (does this number strike
anyone else as small? I would've guessed there'd be more, though I
certainly can't identify any omissions here.) Aside from all pertinent
discographical information, often corrected and clarified by Francesco,
there are extracts from previously published criticism (culled from well
known writers from likely sources--Coda/Cadence/WIRE, etc. as well as
Lock, Radano, Heffley et al) as well as newer observations from entirely
more obscure admirers (several z-listers are represented, including
yours truly). Also has lotsa photos, cover shots, score pages, etc.

There's considerable drool-value for those items we relative completists
have never been lucky enough to grab (like some of those early Circle
things, in my case!). Highly recommended!

It's available, as far as I know, only through order from www.felmay.it
Last I checked, the book wasn't actually listed on the site, but if you
e-mail them and request info, you'll get it. The price, which I imagine
fluctuates with the lire, was $31 and change.

Excellent job, Francesco. I trust we can expect to see supplements every
few years, yes?

Brian Olewnick

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Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 05:11:00 +0200
From: "Francesco Martinelli" <[e-mail]>
Subject: R: Francesco's Braxton Discography

> This morning, I received Francesco Martinelli's new and very complete
> Anthony Braxton Discography. He's done a wonderful job--it's a handsome
> book, a valuable tool and a must for all confirmed Braxophiles.

thank you very much.

> 183 releases in all (does this number strike
> anyone else as small? I would've guessed there'd be more, though I
> certainly can't identify any omissions here.)

Due to certain reissues irregularities the number is slightly higher, some
page featuring two cds (the Kimus samplers for example are associated with
the main release from the same session. By the way, I heard from hatHUT that
Kimus 6 was announced but never released, and the material with Braxton that
was planned for it will be soon out on a new sampler Cd.

> It's available, as far as I know, only through order from www.felmay.it
> Last I checked, the book wasn't actually listed on the site, but if you
> e-mail them and request info, you'll get it. The price, which I imagine
> fluctuates with the lire, was $31 and change.

this includes postage, of course - the book is fairly substantial and weighs
about 0,6 kilos, so needs about 6 dollars of postage. I hope that others
will stock it too, as it's available for wholesale price to distributors as
well, and maybe their price will be lower (note: MAYBE)

> Excellent job, Francesco. I trust we can expect to see supplements every
> few years, yes?

this is according to our man's activities... amazingly enough the book is
not outdated yet and has been out for a month!
Thank you again. I do appreciate your comments and hope you'll have fun with
the book.

Francesco


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Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 13:30:49 -0400
From: "John L. Scott / Tonic" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Tonic improv

>> Rodriguez (perc), Adam ? (d), and ? (p).  The drummer was a young guy
>> whose name I didn't catch entirely.  He was pretty good.  The pianist
>> was an asian woman (I couldn't tell her ethnicity).
>
>Possibly Yuko Fujiyama?  I'm not too familiar with her, but she plays on
>this record with the horn players from Test, Susie Ibarra, and Wilber
>Morris.  Good, quite blues-based free jazz.  The piano playing didn't leave
>much of an impression that I can recall now, but anyway. . .
>
The pianist was Shoko Nagai and the drummer was Andrew Barker (Little Huey
Creative Music Orchestra).

>Kevin Drumm is playing Tonic, 4/27-28, although with some odd pairings (Lee
>Ranaldo, White Out, Ikue Mori, maybe one other). hopefully they'll let him
>play some solo material also.
>
Drumm will be playing solo 4/28 before his set with Ranaldo...


John
[e-mail]


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Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 13:37:50 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Tonic improv

In a message dated 4/13/00 1:31:30 PM, [e-mail] writes:

<< Drumm will be playing solo 4/28 before his set with Ranaldo... >>

great news! although he's played a couple of brief solo sets here over the
last few years (one sparsely attended Tonic show with Alan Licht and Tamio
Shiraishi playing in different combos, and a short set with not such great
acoustics at the School Of Visual Arts), this will essentially be his NYC
solo debut.

Jon
www.erstwhilerecords.com

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Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 13:30:49 -0400
From: "John L. Scott / Tonic" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Tonic improv

>> Rodriguez (perc), Adam ? (d), and ? (p).  The drummer was a young guy
>> whose name I didn't catch entirely.  He was pretty good.  The pianist
>> was an asian woman (I couldn't tell her ethnicity).
>
>Possibly Yuko Fujiyama?  I'm not too familiar with her, but she plays on
>this record with the horn players from Test, Susie Ibarra, and Wilber
>Morris.  Good, quite blues-based free jazz.  The piano playing didn't leave
>much of an impression that I can recall now, but anyway. . .
>
The pianist was Shoko Nagai and the drummer was Andrew Barker (Little Huey
Creative Music Orchestra).

>Kevin Drumm is playing Tonic, 4/27-28, although with some odd pairings (Lee
>Ranaldo, White Out, Ikue Mori, maybe one other). hopefully they'll let him
>play some solo material also.
>
Drumm will be playing solo 4/28 before his set with Ranaldo...


John
[e-mail]


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Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 16:46:30 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Prelapse 4-12-00 gig

I was one of the handful of people who at Prelapse's 10pm gig at CBGB's in
NYC last night.  If you get the chance, check them out (hopefully you already
have the Avant cd)!  They refrained from any Zorn/Naked City covers last
night and played new original pieces for a 50+ minute set.  The new stuff is
like a cross between Naked City and Fantomas!  KILLER!

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Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 18:39:52 -0400
From: "Neil H. Enet" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Ponga

Hello all,

    people have been talking about Wayne Horwitz's ZONY MASH, but what about
PONGA.  I remember someone suggested it when we were having the TRIP
HOP/JAZZ discussion a couple of months ago, so I would like your opinion on
their album, and the remix CD.

Thanks in advance,

Neil H. Enet
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Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 15:48:49 -0700
From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Ponga

On Thu, 13 Apr 2000 18:39:52 -0400  "Neil H. Enet" wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
>     people have been talking about Wayne Horwitz's ZONY MASH, but what about
> PONGA.  I remember someone suggested it when we were having the TRIP
> HOP/JAZZ discussion a couple of months ago, so I would like your opinion on
> their album, and the remix CD.

The original album is quite amazing. It is a very successful mix of improv
with a rock feeling, making it less abstract and allowing both the head and
the body to move.

    Patrice (pissed for having missed the band twice :-().

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Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 23:59:31 +0100
From: "Alastair Wilson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Spilllane's missing tracks

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JZ will be reissuing "Forbidden Fruit" and "Two-Lane Highway" from the =
Elektra version of "Spillane" on Tzadik at any time? I always used to =
recommend that version of "Spillane" to potential new Zorners, and still =
think it's possibly his most rounded and representative single disc. I'm =
aware that "Forbidden Fruit" is available on a Kronos Quartet release, =
but as far as I know "Two-Lane Highway" is now unavailable anywhere.

On a related note: Any chance that JZ's version of Weill/Brecht's "The =
Little Lieutenant of the Loving God", will turn up anywhere again? It's =
well worth a revival.

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Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 16:03:07 -0700
From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Spilllane's missing tracks

On Thu, 13 Apr 2000 23:59:31 +0100  "Alastair Wilson" wrote:
>
> On a related note: Any chance that JZ's version of Weill/Brecht's "The =
> Little Lieutenant of the Loving God", will turn up anywhere again? It's =
> well worth a revival.

But the record is still in print, no?

And what about the incredible Monk cover "Shuffle Boil"?

    Patrice (still trying to recover from discovering it 15 years ago).

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Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 00:17:16 +0100
From: "Alastair Wilson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Spilllane's missing tracks

I just assumed that seeing as the only time I'd ever seen (and snapped up)
the Willner Weill tribute it was second hand, that it was long out of print
*sigh*. I've never found the Monk one, more's the pity.

>
> On Thu, 13 Apr 2000 23:59:31 +0100  "Alastair Wilson" wrote:
> >
> > On a related note: Any chance that JZ's version of Weill/Brecht's "The =
> > Little Lieutenant of the Loving God", will turn up anywhere again? It's
=
> > well worth a revival.
>
> But the record is still in print, no?
>
> And what about the incredible Monk cover "Shuffle Boil"?
>
> Patrice (still trying to recover from discovering it 15 years ago).
>
> -
>
>

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Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 12:21:23 CEST
From: "Andreas Dietz" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Ponga

>From: "Neil H. Enet" <[e-mail]>
>
>people have been talking about Wayne Horwitz's ZONY MASH, but what about
>PONGA.  I remember someone suggested it when we were having the TRIP
>HOP/JAZZ discussion a couple of months ago, so I would like your opinion on
>their album, and the remix CD.
>

I think Ponga is one of the best livebands today. I had the luck to see them
last August at the Saalfelden Festival in Austria - Horvitz and Previte
together are a dream team. I got the CD a few months later and was a little
dissapointed but it could be to high expectations after the amazing live
experience. It┤s still very interesting stuff but you have to hear it
several times to go really into.
I haven┤t heard the remix but ordered a few days ago.

Andreas Dietz
______________________________________________________
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Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 12:39:08 CEST
From: "Andreas Dietz" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Spilllane's missing tracks

>I just assumed that seeing as the only time I'd ever seen (and snapped up)
>the Willner Weill tribute it was second hand, that it was long out of print
>*sigh*. I've never found the Monk one, more's the pity.
>

I purchased my copy of LOST IN THE STARS one year ago. It should be in
print.

There┤s a version of SHUFFLE BOIL by the great dutch band AVAILABLE JELLY
(Michael Moore, Michael Vatcher among others) on their CD AL(L)WAYS issued
1989.

Andreas Dietz
______________________________________________________
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Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 14:14:59 +0200
From: "Stefan Verstraeten" <[e-mail]>
Subject: recent cd buy (Otomo Yoshihide)

Hi all,

to be honest, I bought these some time ago, but never had the chance to
discuss, and recommend them on this list.

Both of them are by otomo yoshihide and his new jazz group.

- -Film music from shabondama ellegy (a movie by Ian Kerkhof)
I have not seen the movie yet, but the soundtrack is great. Don't expect
ground zero blasts of noise (god, i miss this band), but lots of humor. Two
track are called police impossible, and yes, what you hear is very crazy
song based on mission impossible. More of these please.... The rest of the
album is typical sound track style: Some themes (for example: elagy, bath
cream, sad theme) that are played by different line ups: solo, jazz version,
film version. But hey, these tracks are differently each time in their own
way, so why bother.

- -Otomo Yoshide plays the music of takeo yamashita (cartoon music)
Remember 'ground zero plays standards'. Well, same style here: Starting
point is music by takeo yamashita (except the last track: a song by sashiko
m and yoshihide) and 'covered' by yoshihide. As I said before: his new jazz
band is a lot about humor. I don't know what they are singing (it is
japanese), but it sounds so funny, so innocent. The album has a wide variety
of styles: from pure japanese popsongs to soundscapes and free jazz blasts.

Anyway, these albums are not so great as the ground zero albums (in my
opinion of course) but are worthwile. Unfortunately, they are japanese
imports, so quite expensive.

Best wishes

Stefan Verstraeten

[e-mail]



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Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 13:56:59 +0200
From: "Stefan Verstraeten" <[e-mail]>
Subject: new derek bailey releases

Hi,

Incus-records is definitely hard-working again, since four new releases are
available:

- -Derek Bailey & Steve Lacy: Outcome (potlach label)
For the record: our very own Patrice Roussel is mentioned here in the thank
you list.
My opnion on this record? A good album, that's for sure, but not a superb
record. I heard duo recording of these two before (Lacy recordings on
emanem, and I believe on FMP, not so sure about the last one since i don't
have my records here with me), but i am not so convinced about this one.
Reason: the two of them have very distinctive styles, ways of playing
notes,... And yes, sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. In my
opinion, this album has more moments when bailey and lacy just go their own
way... Yes, the album has some moments where bailey plays more melodic, and
moments when lacy goes beyond... but not as often as one would hope.
Conclusion: if you are a big fan, go for it, but this album is not suited
for those who occasionally buy records by bailey.

- -Derek Bailey and Susie Ibarra: Daedal (incus records)
You have to have the guts to go as a drumplayer on a stage-recording studio
and play duo with derek bailey. Yes, john stevens was THE PERCUSSION player
that could fit with derek perfectly. What to expect form Ibarra? I am not
familiar with her other recordings, so she was new to me. And yes, these two
go well together. Derek is on electric guitar (this means a lot of power),
but Ibarra knows how to handle: She doesn't answer with free-noise but most
of the time very subtle playing.... great. Although I have one little
remark: one can hear on the album that she really admires derek bailey....
this means that most of the time she follows the lead by derek bailey, and
sometimes forgets that she is a player with her own way of playing. But hey,
l do not forget that is difficult to maintain your own style when playing
with bailey (remember the duo album with keiji haino, even this very typical
guitar player went along with derek bailey's style). Conclusion: superb
album, both players interact very good. Personally, this was a very good
introduction for me with Ibarra.

- -Bailey-Rutherford-Guy: Iskra 1903 Chapter One (Emanem label)
Yes, emanem brought us in the past a cd by this superb trio, but here we get
three (!!!) cds. The only negative thing to say is the sound quality... Most
of these recordings were made live (sometimes audience recordings) and some
parts are copied from the old incus vinyl records. But hey, it is on cd
right now, so forget about the sound quality. As a big bailey fan (but hey,
aren't we all on this list?) I really dig this album: the album has a very
laidback, calm sphere, and so is derek bailey. No aggressive, harsh bursts
of noise, but very subtle playing, almost melodic. Perhaps strange to hear a
trombone in this context, but hey, it works, so why bother? Conclusion: A
very fine record indeed, if you like derek bailey, but doesn't like his
harsh playing, I say, go for this one. This album can even be recommended
for starters.

- -Bailey, Tacuma, Weston: Mirakle (tzadik label)
Man, what a blast. Everyone should go for this album. And if you have
doubts: go in a record store and skip to number two (track title: What it
is). What it is? A very groovy steady beat, a phat bass, and on top of that
derek bailey in a great form. Whow, what an album. The funny thing about
this album is that it appeals to a lot of people, from funk to free jazz and
noise rock. I just can't say more: this album is great. I immediately
thought of the arcana album (with tony williams and bill laswell), but this
album is more conventional, more rock/funk oriented... SO GO BUY THIS ONE.

How to order these albums? For those who live in europe, the cheapest way to
order these (12 pounds, except the three cd set, 24 pounds), is to order
them from incus records. You can email Karen Brookman of incus records on:
INCUS RECORDS KAREN
E-mail Address(es):
  [e-mail]
and give her my regards.

Best wishes,


Stefan Verstraeten

[e-mail]



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