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Zorn List Digest       Sunday, October 31 1999       Volume 02 : Number 783



In this issue:
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       Re: Great American Mavericks/Glass & Carny
       Rob Blakeslee In Ventura CA
       Re: Ross Bolleter
       Horny electronics
       re: new purchases
       Re: Horny electronics
       re: new purchases
       RE: Jewish Soul/American Beat
       re: new purchases
       Re: Ross Bolleter
       prelapse etc...
       99 Hooker (more horny electronics)
       Re: oh yeah i should tell u where its posted
       Intro
       Jazz on CD-ROM
       Keiji Haino, Ganelin Trio, Charlie Mingus articles
       Friedlander Film Music
       Zorn "Defense" Letters
       ross bolleter
       haino/brotzmann: !#?*

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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 20:52:47 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tom Pratt <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Great American Mavericks/Glass & Carny

- --- Jeni Dahmus <[e-mail]> wrote:
> I felt that the score followed the film well and was
> very moving.  My friend hated it and found the music
> relentless.  Perhaps it's a matter of taste...

Yeah, I gave the 'Dracula' disc a listen and was
pretty bored. Ended up giving it to a friend...

It's a shame, I think, the path that Glass' music has
taken. His early work was so great.

    -Tom Pratt

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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 21:18:49 -0700
From: s~Z <[e-mail]>
Subject: Rob Blakeslee In Ventura CA

The new issue of pfMENTUM is available for free download at the pfMENTUM
website:

http://www.jetlink.net/~pfmentum

It features an interview with composer/trumpet player Rob Blakeslee and
info about his upcoming performance at City Hall in Ventura, California.

There are also Real Audio excerpts of the new Jeff Kaiser/Woody Aplanalp
CD (Asphalt Buddhas, pfMENTUM CD003) for your listening enjoyment.

Thanks,

Keith and Jeff
[e-mail]

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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 14:17:43 +0800
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Ross Bolleter

hi,
 I am your token 'Aussie'. Ross used to live round here, in fact I am
pretty sure he still does. Here is Western Australia, which is like Texas
only without the people, and dare I say it, 'bigger than Texas.
I will ask around and find out what he is up to and get back to 'y' all'.
Musically I haven't seen anything for quite some time, but his stuff was
usually on cassettes.
Billy





>     Anyone heard anything by this guy? As near as I can tell (I may be way
>     off), he's a contemporary Australian composer who, at least sometimes,
>     writes for pianos which have been left out in the elements for lengthy
>     periods of time. I suppose you could call it "cured" piano as opposed
>     to "prepared". I think he also composes for accordion, straight or
>     weather-battered, I don't know.
>
>     We have an Aussie or two on board, eh? Someone must have heard him!
>
>     Brian Olewnick
>
>     (NYC Tower's downtown store actually has a vacant section for him in
>     the classical department)
>
>
>-




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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 09:37:33 +0100
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Horny electronics

> Okura's sax is a bit of a sore thumb to the otherwise
> ego-less playing, but I think a large amount of that
> can be accredited to the nature of his instrument.
> It's incredibly difficult to really integrate a horn
> into electronic sound.

Agreed. Those who have an interest might like to hear VHF's
recent release on erstwhile (http://www.erstwhile.com) on which a
classic sax-bass-drum trio take a lead from contemporary
electronics rather than jazz to create something perplexing and
oddly beautiful. The drummer uses a tone generator to add a pinch
of electronics, but it really is mostly acoustic, notwithstanding what
it sounds like. A review and sound clip will be in the next (musings)
update.

Rich

- -------------------------------------------------
(musings): reviews (with MP3s) of new
improv, free jazz and avant-electronic releases.
http://come.to/musings.com

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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 08:04:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tom Pratt <[e-mail]>
Subject: re: new purchases

- --- Alexander Blok <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> I think the new Fennesz disc is a solid step forward
> from 'Hotel Paral.llel'. The texture of the digital
> drone has become much more refined, but there's
> hardly a trace of the Techno element which used to
> motor some of his tracks.

Well, the thing is is that Fennesz is coming as much
from musique concrete of the contemporary classical
world as he is underground dance music of the '80s and
early '90s. To me, the techno/dance element that
occasionally emerges on 'Hotel Paral_lel' isn't a
cheap way of motoring the more abstract passages but
is instead a very natural coming-together of his
influences.

Still, I haven't had the chance to listen to the new
one yet.

     -Tom Pratt

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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 12:17:06 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Horny electronics

In a message dated 10/28/99 6:01:13 AM, [e-mail] writes:

<< Agreed. Those who have an interest might like to hear VHF's
recent release on erstwhile (http://www.erstwhile.com) on which a
classic sax-bass-drum trio take a lead from contemporary
electronics rather than jazz to create something perplexing and
oddly beautiful. The drummer uses a tone generator to add a pinch
of electronics, but it really is mostly acoustic, notwithstanding what
it sounds like. A review and sound clip will be in the next (musings)
update. >>

the web site's actually at www.erstwhilerecords.com, in case anyone follows
Rich's link and is confused.

Jon

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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 15:59:46 -0400 (EDT)
From: ALexander Blok <[e-mail]>
Subject: re: new purchases

> > I think the new Fennesz disc is a solid step forward
> > from 'Hotel Paral.llel'. The texture of the digital
> > drone has become much more refined, but there's
> > hardly a trace of the Techno element which used to
> > motor some of his tracks.
> Well, the thing is is that Fennesz is coming as much
> from musique concrete of the contemporary classical
> world as he is underground dance music of the '80s and
> early '90s. To me, the techno/dance element that
> occasionally emerges on 'Hotel Paral_lel' isn't a
> cheap way of motoring the more abstract passages but
> is instead a very natural coming-together of his
> influences.

Hmm, well, I didn't mean to imply any sense of "cheapness" when I wrote
Fennesz used Techno as a motor on HP. I intended motor to mean two
things really. First, that he accomplishes, like you said, a
coming-together of musique-concrete and techno (let's not forget rock).
That is, as one component under the hood. But also, in the sense that
"motor" implies movement ---> rhythm. Any feeling of rhythm one can derive
out of HP for the most part points to...the obvious...

- -eric.



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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:03:29 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: RE: Jewish Soul/American Beat

a bit more information : it includes some interview clips with Steve Reich,
about his experience.

from,
matt

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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 15:53:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tom Pratt <[e-mail]>
Subject: re: new purchases

- --- ALexander Blok <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> Hmm, well, I didn't mean to imply any sense of
> "cheapness" when I wrote Fennesz used Techno as a
> motor on HP. I intended motor to mean two things
> really. First, that he accomplishes, like you said,
> a coming-together of musique-concrete and techno
> (let's not forget rock). That is, as one component
> under the hood. But also, in the sense that "motor"
> implies movement ---> rhythm. Any feeling of rhythm
> one can derive out of HP for the most part points
> to...the obvious...

Ok, I'm a little confused... What is "the obvious"?
Are you saying that the more techno/dance sections in
'Hotel Paral_lel' are predictable and uninteresting?

What exactly are you saying?

     -Tom Pratt

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Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 08:47:44 +0800
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Ross Bolleter

>hi,
> I am your token 'Aussie'. Ross used to live round here, in fact I am
>pretty sure he still does. Here is Western Australia, which is like Texas
>only without the people, and dare I say it, 'bigger than Texas.
>I will ask around and find out what he is up to and get back to 'y' all'.
>Musically I haven't seen anything for quite some time, but his stuff was
>usually on cassettes.
>Billy

hi,
I rang him up last night. He is here in Perth, Western Australia. He has
just returned from New Zealand where he has been teaching Zen, which is his
other 'passion'. When he is not teaching, his music is what he does. He
tells me he has just done 2 cds and will let me have details of them and
other stuff from the past since "Austral voices" - a long time ago.
Billy



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Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 12:16:09 -0700
From: e <[e-mail]>
Subject: prelapse etc...

I finally got the new Prelapse cd from tzadik, really pretty amazing they
truely do "shred" those naked city tunes, as well as their own. Mr. Wendell
does a better Eye than...well Eye! o.k. well better than mike patton
anyway, and all while ripping some pretty impressive bass. This cd
definately fills a void for me left after the demise of that zorn project.
If you liked Torture Garden, and Radio pick it up for sure you won't be
dissapointed.

On another note (shameless self promotion) our Cortex Bomb cd has been
getting some reviews...we certainly count Zorn high on our list of
influences, here is a review from Magnet's Fred Mills
http://www.tucsonweekly.com/tw/current/qscans.html

if you are interested visit our website for some freebies mp3 style, and
other nonsense.
http://www.mockbrawn.com/bands/cortex/
we welcome cd trades...

pasta,
Eric

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Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 19:52:08 GMT
From: "Scott Handley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: 99 Hooker (more horny electronics)

Who is this guy/gal, and what has (s)he done outside Bible Launcher and the
duo disc on Ltd. Sedition?  What are the live shows like, w/ electronics,
etc?  I understand 99 Hooker has some interactive CDs out: what are they
like and how can they be acquired?

- ---s, inquisitive/acquisitive

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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 18:47:46 -0400
From: Rich Williams <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: oh yeah i should tell u where its posted

>Hey,
>
>I checked deja.com for the newsgroup and I didn't find the dave
>douglas show.  Is there somewhere on the web that it resides?

    Most people who post mp3's, pirated software,  or whatever,
put an extra line in their header so that Deja news will not archive
the posting. You need a dedicated newsreader that connects to your
ISP's Usenet server, or a third party provider like Supernews. Good
programs are Agent on the PC, and Newswatcher on the mac, though I'd
bet that the Douglas mp3's have expired by now.....:-(


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Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 10:14:00 -0400
From: "Ljova" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Intro

Dear Zorn List:

    Well, I've been lurking on the list for about two-three weeks now, and
thought that it might be time for an introduction.

    My name is Ljova, and I'm a New-York based composer and violist. I was born
in Moscow, Russia, and moved here 10 years ago. Currently, I'm a student at
Juilliard (for viola), and will be graduating in May.

    As a composer, I write whenever I have the time, or the irresistable urge
to do so. (School and freelancing take a huge bite out of my time.) My
compositions are very diverse in styles, orchestration and concept. At the
same time, it can be said that the majority of them are rather short.
(Maximum duration is maybe 15 minutes; minimum 30 seconds.)  Lately, I've
been writing a sinful lot of New-Agey sounding stuff, but I think that phase
is on its way out.

    As a violist, I've been freelancing in and around town (NYC, that is) for a
while, and have done lots of really cool and interesting work. Of interest
to the Zorn list might be my two-year stint with the Absolute Ensemble, as
well as some appearances at HERE. Of the more "uptown" stuff, I've also
played with the Orchestra of St. Luke's, and The Wild Ginger Philharmonic.
I've also played some sessions...

    I've signed up to the Zorn list to see what is happening in "Downtown"
music, and, thankfully, I'm receiving quite an education. It's wonderful to
see concert notices, reviews, and discussions!  Until now, I haven't seen
many downtown events, but I am now making more of an effort. I'm good
friends with Todd Reynolds (violinist), and generally attend whatever he
recommends.  It would be nice, of course, to have a greater familiarity with
the downtown scene -- which is why I'm here.

    I own two of Zorn's CD's -- "Music for Children" and "String Quartets".
They are both very interesting, and very varied. Some pieces I like a lot,
others not as much. But that can change during years of repeated listenning,
and/or acquiring his other works.

    If you're interested in knowing more, hearing my music, or just have some
time to kill, feel free to visit my website, http://www.Ljova.com, which was
just updated with some new stuff. Let me know what you think!

    Thanks for reading, please continue sharing! :)

    Regards,

    Ljova

- --------
Lev "Ljova" Zhurbin
[e-mail]
http://www.Ljova.com

"Do not fear mistakes - there are none."
        -Miles Davis


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Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 09:47:53 +0100
From: infolit <[e-mail]>
Subject: Jazz on CD-ROM

Hello!

Who is interested in Jazz on CD-ROM? I am interested in various artists:
from Louis Armstrong to Weather Report. For trading I have a small
collection of CD-ROMs.
If  you are interested, please send me your lists, questions and offers.

Igor Balenko
Jazz_collectors List Owner

Web-site: <http://www.litinfo.lt/jazz/jazz_home.htm>
Mailing list: <mailto:[e-mail]>
e-mail: <mailto:[e-mail]>

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Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 09:59:47 -0500
From: Perfect Sound Forever <[e-mail]>
Subject: Keiji Haino, Ganelin Trio, Charlie Mingus articles

Greetings,

In the latest edition of Perfect Sound Forever
<http://www.furious.com/perfect>, you'll find (among other things):

* Ganelin Trio- Year Zero in the Soviet Union
How this fierce jazz ensemble survived the Iron Curtain
<http://www.furious.com/perfect/ganelintrio.html>

* Keiji Haino
The mysterious sorcerer attacks with guitar mayhem
<http://www.furious.com/perfect/haino.html>

* Charlie Mingus in the '70's
The Taurus in Winter: the final years
<http://www.furious.com/perfect/mingus2.html>


We're always looking for good material so let us know if you have any
writing or ideas for upcoming issues.

See you online,
Jason

Perfect Sound Forever
online music magazine
[e-mail]
http://www.furious.com/perfect

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Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 17:44:08 +0100
From: Stephen Fruitman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Friedlander Film Music

I just received a copy of an animated short feature entitled _Silence_, by
Sylvie Bringas and Orly Yadin, from its Swedish co-producer. In a mere ten
minutes it manages a brilliant and poetic description of a young girl=B4s
grappling with her identity as a survivor from Auschwitz, rescued at the
end of the war and brought to Sweden. Highly recommended. I have no idea if
the film is available through any retail outlets yet, but I will get back
to the list when I find out.

Of interest to the list is the fact that the score features Erik
=46riedlander on solo cello throughout. According to the credits, the text
and music are adapted from a piece entitled "Through the Silence: Concerto
for Cello and Survivor" by Noa Alin. If anyone has any further information
to offer about this piece, I=B4d be grateful if you got in touch.

Stephen Fruitman


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Bj=F6rn Olsson,
Inst. f=F6r id=E9historia,
Ume=E5 universitet
901 87 Ume=E5
tel. [phone] fax 143374
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Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:01:37 +0100
From: Stephen Fruitman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Zorn "Defense" Letters

Someone (Steve Smith?) mentioned that the week after the Schatz article on
Zorn, three critical letters to the editor were printed in the NYT, one of
them by Dave Douglas.

=46or my own research purposes, I wonder if there is anyone out there who
could photocopy those letters for me (unless they are online, and you can
point me at the right site)?

E-mail me privately if you can do me that favour. All the best, Stephen





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Inst. f=F6r id=E9historia,
Ume=E5 universitet
901 87 Ume=E5
tel. [phone] fax 143374
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Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:17:13 -0500
From: "Caleb T. Deupree" <[e-mail]>
Subject: ross bolleter

A big coincidence that after the recent discussions here about the
Australian composer Ross Bolleter that a new album of his is reviewed in
Cadence (of all places).  Sadly they don't list it in their center section,
but FWIW the album is called Crow Country, it's on Warps, it includes five
pieces, including one pieces for ruined piano, two pieces with bass
(different players on each piece), one piece for solo accordion, and one
piece for ruined piano and live tape manipulation.  They give it amazingly
high marks, considering it doesn't sound like their usual fare.  I'm
looking forward to picking this up somewhere.


- --
Caleb Deupree
[e-mail]

It is pretty obvious that the debasement of the human mind caused by a
constant flow of fraudulent advertising is no trivial thing.  There is more
than one way to conquer a country.

- -- Raymond Chandler

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Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:21:44 GMT
From: "Scott Handley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: haino/brotzmann: !#?*

This is from the nice PERFECT SOUND FOREVER article on Haino, which seems
like a nice, even critical overview of Haino's recorded work:

"And perhaps, one day, the recording of Fushitsusha playing with Peter
Brotzmann will see daylight. (Haino acknowledges its existence, but says
it's not scheduled for release.)"

Oh my god.  Could this be?  The end of the world?  Or of global capital?

Also, John Corbett has spoken of a Milford Graves/William Parker/ Peter
Brotzmann trio which has played in the states at times.  This is another
grouping which makes me wonder why the label owners aren't chasing down
tapes...alas, so much music, so little time...

- -----s, ruminatin'

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