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Zorn List Digest        Thursday, May 13 1999        Volume 02 : Number 662



In this issue:
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       re: Squarepusher
       Re: Zorn book
       re:motreal record stores
       Re: Kleizmatics "The Well"
       Re: Zorn book
       Sonora availability
       Naked City's "Radio" CD FS ...
       straight from the horse's keyboard, as it were
       Fwd: CD-R TREE ANNOUNCEMENT - Zony Mash 9-25-98 Old Office, Knitting Factory ...
       144 Live @ The Knitting Factory 5/14
       Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 19:20:31 -0700
       Re: Kleizmatics "The Well"
       Zorn Performance Question
       Zony Mash CD-R Tree Announcment
       Fripp
       (musings) update

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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 16:47:09 +0100
From: Nils Jacobson <[e-mail]>
Subject: re: Squarepusher

you should check out the archives on this and you will find more info on
sp and drum-n-bass in general.  the derek bailey/dj ninj record started
it at the time.

to second other recommendations: 'feed me weird things' is the place to
start.  the 'vic acid' ep is particularly manic and flashy.  'hard normal
daddy' nice too.  if you get 'big loada' try to get the american (nothing)
release, as it has the port rhombus ep tacked on as well, not worth buying
on its own.  you will find the nothing releases much easier to get than
the warp, rephlex, or worm interface stuff (due to distribution in the us,
if that's where you're buying things).  also be aware that tom jenkinson
aka squarepusher has other aliases as well, including the duke of
herringay and chaos ad, with records under those names too.

i would caution the squarepusher newbie against the last 2 albums,
'budakhan mindphone' and 'music is rotted.' they are atypical of the
earlier material.  different approach: no sequencing here.  they were
constructed by overdubbing tape recordings.  so these 2 are NOT d'n'b in
the typical sense.  i find them much more spacey, atmospheric, and (quite
honestly) impenetrably murky.

nils

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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 14:00:49 -0700
From: Herb Levy <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Zorn book

It's not exactly a "Chadbourne book".  He wrote the preface (9 pages out of
144) & provided the tapes for the CD, but the book was edited by Walter
Rovere & Carla Chiti.

There doesn't seem to be a ISBN (or a ISSN - it's an issue of a magazine)
but there's a Web site <http://www.matson.it/> or you can send e-mail to
<[e-mail]>.  The postal address is:

Sonora:Itinerari Oltre Il Suono
via Tre Novembre 2
52027  San Giovanni Valdarno
Italia

Bests,

Herb

>Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 16:32:37 +0100
>From: "Steve Lord" <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Zorn book
>
>Does any one have the ISBN number for the Chadbourne book - I can't seem to
>find it in the UK
>Thanx
>Steve
>
>
>
>- -


Herb Levy
[e-mail]



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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 18:09:03 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:motreal record stores

>Can anyone recommend good record stores (including used) in Montreal?
>Any other recommendations (bookstores, cafes, etc) are also welcome.

>Thanks,

>Dmitry

cheap thrills is an excellent store! a lot of avant garde/experimental music.

2044 metcalfe, montreal, quebec, canada h3a 1x8
#514.844.8988
http://www.cam.org/~thrills/


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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 18:30:07 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Kleizmatics "The Well"

Just a collection of Yiddish Music?  What kind of comment is that.
Furthemore, the Klezmatics are certainly not pure "yiddish music".  As to
your question, give it another chance, and buy "The Well".  Then dance around
the house.

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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 18:30:41 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Zorn book

<< Does any one have the ISBN number for the Chadbourne book - I can't seem to
 find it in the UK
 Thanx
 Steve
  >>

 for that matter, i cannot procure it in the states. that suggested "crayon"
 website had no answer. who's the publisher? what's the title?
thanks, joseph

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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 20:56:44 -0700
From: Sheik Connery <[e-mail]>
Subject: Sonora availability

The "Zorn book" a.k.a. "Sonora" should be available to record stores of any
repute.  I know we have it at Rasputin Music in Berkeley for $20.99 and I
know the last time I was at Amoeba they had it as well.  I ordered 2 copies
and they were rapidly snatched up by employees, but I will get more in.  It
is distributed to the U.S. by Materiali Sonora so that U.S. stores are
capable of carrying it.  I think you can also successfully procure it (if
all the record stores in your area are no match for the Bay Area's amazing
stores) through GEMM.COM.

                    -Ethan


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Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 06:44:04 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Patrick Carey)
Subject: Naked City's "Radio" CD FS ...

Hello ...

Anyone need a copy of Naked City's "Radio"?  I've got
a NEW copy (simply out of the shrinkwrap) FS for $20 US
(POSTAGE PAID in North America - add $2 for overseas).

Email if interested.


- -Patrick
[e-mail]


more items at:
http://www.astro.utoronto.ca/~carey/sofa/sale.html




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Date: Tue, 11 May 99 10:05:50 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: straight from the horse's keyboard, as it were

I asked Eugene Chadbourne about the Zorn book that has been discussed here.
Maybe I misunderstood? I thought someone had said that he wrote it, but
apparently not. Here is his answer to me:

XXX

I did not write a book about Zorn, although I guess I probably could.  What
I did was put together a short CD to accompany a book recently published in
Italy about Zorn, it is a collection of short pieces on various aspects of his
career, most of them culled from other sources.  It is in English and Italian,
so it is a good read even if you are not adept at la lingua bellisimo.  (That is
probably completely wrong.)
          I think we just managed to get Zorn a copy, they didn't send him one!
I really don't have any idea how this is distributed, it is not my department.
The company is Materiali Sonori.   I would be surprised if you can't find it in
NYC somewhere.

XXX

Hope this helps whoever was looking.

kg



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Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 12:14:50 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Fwd: CD-R TREE ANNOUNCEMENT - Zony Mash 9-25-98 Old Office, Knitting Factory ...

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In a message dated 5/10/99 1:46:23 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Baba666 writes:

<< CD-R TREE ANNOUNCEMENT --
 Zony Mash -- 9-25-98 at the Old Office, Knitting Factory, NYC NY=20
=20
 Wayne Horvitz -- keyboards=20
 Tim Young -- guitar
 Andy Roth -- drums
 Keith Lowe -- bass
=20
 set one: smiles, happens like that, sex fiend, *jam > *prudence rsvp, *meet=20
the zony mash > *electric sandworm =20
 set two: withdrawal symptoms, chimacum after hours, stompin at the cranium,=20
*slide by, *cadillac ranch, *daylight > *upper egypt (pharoah sanders)
 note: *with guest Elliot Sharp on electric guitar
=20
 See http://www.zonymash.com for more details on this amazing (and=20
taper-friendly!) band.
 See http://members.aol.com/baba666/tree.html for tree structure when signup=
s=20
are in.
=20
 MIC SOURCE -- schoeps mk4 front & center ortf 5' high > sonosax sx-m2 > son=
y=20
tcd-d8
 TAPE SOURCE -- Chris Preston
 TREE DEADLINE -- May 28th, 1999 @ 11:59 pm
=20
 The show is composed of 2 cd-rs, an early set and a late set. =A0
=20
 Send the form below back to [e-mail] to sign up, with the subject of=20
your message listing the position you wish to be in on the tree and how many=20
copies you're able to make, for example:
 Zony Mash CD-R BRANCH (7) -- I'd love to see a lot of these! ;-)=20
 Zony Mash CD-R BRANCH (3)=20
 Zony Mash CD-R LEAF (0)
=20
 A note about leaves: the number of leaf positions available depend on the=20
number of branch applications I get. If we get more leaf applications then=20
there are positions, the postitions will be filled on a first-come,=20
first-served basis. If you are unfortunately left off the tree, I can't=20
personally burn a copy for you, nor can I set you up with someone who can.
=20
 The moral of this story is if you can sign up as a branch, please do so! =
=A0=20
The second moral of the story is that Zony Mash is a taper friendly band! =
=A0Go=20
see them! Tape them with the best equipment you can get your hands on! =A0It=
's=20
SOOOOO worth it!
=20
 This is a not-for-profit CD-r tree. If participants choose to send blank=20
data CD-rs and return postage instead of trading, that is their prerogative.
 Any comments or questions? Please write [e-mail].
=20
 ------------------------- cut here -------------------------=20
 Sign-up Form=20
 Name:=20
 Email Address:=20
 Phone Number:=20
 What sort of CD-R deck do you have:=20
 Can you burn DAO?:=20
 Standalone or PC-based:=20
 IDE or SCSI:=20
 CD mastering software:=20
 Preferred CD-r media:=20
 Do you prefer to trade CD-rs with your parent/children, or send blanks?:=20
 Location of CD-r list online:=20
=20
 Please send your completed form back to [e-mail]
 Don't forget to check http://members.aol.com/baba666/tree.html after the=20
deadline for the tree structure! >>


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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 16:46:23 EDT
Subject: CD-R TREE ANNOUNCEMENT - Zony Mash 9-25-98 Old Office, Knitting
    Factory NYC
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will, could you please forward this to the zorn-list?  the inclusion of=20
elliott sharp probably makes it a must-hear for those folks.....

CD-R TREE ANNOUNCEMENT --
Zony Mash -- 9-25-98 at the Old Office, Knitting Factory, NYC NY=20

Wayne Horvitz -- keyboards=20
Tim Young -- guitar
Andy Roth -- drums
Keith Lowe -- bass

set one: smiles, happens like that, sex fiend, *jam > *prudence rsvp, *meet=20
the zony mash > *electric sandworm =20
set two: withdrawal symptoms, chimacum after hours, stompin at the cranium,=20
*slide by, *cadillac ranch, *daylight > *upper egypt (pharoah sanders)
note: *with guest Elliot Sharp on electric guitar

See http://www.zonymash.com for more details on this amazing (and=20
taper-friendly!) band.
See http://members.aol.com/baba666/tree.html for tree structure when signups=20
are in.

MIC SOURCE -- schoeps mk4 front & center ortf 5' high > sonosax sx-m2 > sony=20
tcd-d8
TAPE SOURCE -- Chris Preston
TREE DEADLINE -- May 28th, 1999 @ 11:59 pm

The show is composed of 2 cd-rs, an early set and a late set. =A0

Send the form below back to [e-mail] to sign up, with the subject of=20
your message listing the position you wish to be in on the tree and how many=20
copies you're able to make, for example:
Zony Mash CD-R BRANCH (7) -- I'd love to see a lot of these! ;-)=20
Zony Mash CD-R BRANCH (3)=20
Zony Mash CD-R LEAF (0)

A note about leaves: the number of leaf positions available depend on the=20
number of branch applications I get. If we get more leaf applications then=20
there are positions, the postitions will be filled on a first-come,=20
first-served basis. If you are unfortunately left off the tree, I can't=20
personally burn a copy for you, nor can I set you up with someone who can.

The moral of this story is if you can sign up as a branch, please do so! =A0=20
The second moral of the story is that Zony Mash is a taper friendly band! =
=A0Go=20
see them! Tape them with the best equipment you can get your hands on! =A0It=
's=20
SOOOOO worth it!

This is a not-for-profit CD-r tree. If participants choose to send blank dat=
a=20
CD-rs and return postage instead of trading, that is their prerogative.
Any comments or questions? Please write [e-mail].

- ------------------------- cut here -------------------------=20
Sign-up Form=20
Name:=20
Email Address:=20
Phone Number:=20
What sort of CD-R deck do you have:=20
Can you burn DAO?:=20
Standalone or PC-based:=20
IDE or SCSI:=20
CD mastering software:=20
Preferred CD-r media:=20
Do you prefer to trade CD-rs with your parent/children, or send blanks?:=20
Location of CD-r list online:=20

Please send your completed form back to [e-mail]
Don't forget to check http://members.aol.com/baba666/tree.html after the=20
deadline for the tree structure!

- --part1_ce6d45da.2469b17a_boundary--

- -

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Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 14:21:52 -0400
From: theorcolus <[e-mail]>
Subject: 144 Live @ The Knitting Factory 5/14

On May 14th in NYC @ the Knitting Factory 11 PM
74 Leonard St
212-219-3006

144 Returns!


144 is a 3 piece improvisatory group whose influences range from King
Crimson, to Weather Report, to Albert Ayler among others.

They will be recording the show for a live CD.

The trio is:

David C Gross-6 string fretless bass/electronics/loops

John Macaluso-drums and percussion

Alexander Rastopchin- guitar/electronics

- -

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Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 19:20:31 -0700
From: dennis summers <[e-mail]>
Subject: Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 19:20:31 -0700

>There is an Ornette bootleg called 'Stating The Case' on a label 'Jazz
>Anthology' with identical LP-sides. The lineup is Coleman, Cherry, Redman,
>Haden, Blackwell and it has probably been recorded in NYC on 09/22/72

I haven't listened to it lately, but my copy sure seems to be different on
both sides and says on the sleeve (incorrectly perhaps) that it was recorded
early 60's.

- --ds
***Quantum Dance Works***
****http://ic.net/~denniss****


- -

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Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 13:21:24 +0300 (WET)
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Kleizmatics "The Well"

I wrote that I already bought it. and there was no dances around the
house, I went to sleep.

On Mon, 10 May 1999 [e-mail] wrote:

> Just a collection of Yiddish Music?  What kind of comment is that.
> Furthemore, the Klezmatics are certainly not pure "yiddish music".  As to
> your question, give it another chance, and buy "The Well".  Then dance around
> the house.
>


- -

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 12:42:10 -0500
From: Dan Hewins <[e-mail]>
Subject: Zorn Performance Question

I know this is a longshot but there may be people with recordings out
there.  Is anyone familiar with the performance that took place on January
3 1998?  Does anyone know who was playing?  It sounds like Zorn, Ribot,
Medeski, and a drummer and maybe another guitarist.  I'm guessing it's
Wollensen.  Any help is appreciated.  Please email privately so as to avoid
unwanted list mess.

Thanks,
Dan Hewins



- -

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 13:55:55 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Zony Mash CD-R Tree Announcment

CD-R TREE ANNOUNCEMENT --
Zony Mash -- 9-25-98 at the Old Office, Knitting Factory, NYC NY=20

Wayne Horvitz -- keyboards=20
Tim Young -- guitar
Andy Roth -- drums
Keith Lowe -- bass

set one: smiles, happens like that, sex fiend, *jam > *prudence rsvp, *meet=20
the zony mash > *electric sandworm =20
set two: withdrawal symptoms, chimacum after hours, stompin at the cranium,=20
*slide by, *cadillac ranch, *daylight > *upper egypt (pharoah sanders)
note: *with guest Elliot Sharp on electric guitar

See http://www.zonymash.com for more details on this amazing (and=20
taper-friendly!) band.
See http://members.aol.com/baba666/tree.html for tree structure when signups=20
are in.

MIC SOURCE -- schoeps mk4 front & center ortf 5' high > sonosax sx-m2 > sony=20
tcd-d8
TAPE SOURCE -- Chris Preston
TREE DEADLINE -- May 28th, 1999 @ 11:59 pm

The show is composed of 2 cd-rs, an early set and a late set. =A0

Send the form below back to [e-mail] to sign up, with the subject of=20
your message listing the position you wish to be in on the tree and how many=20
copies you're able to make, for example:
Zony Mash CD-R BRANCH (7) -- I'd love to see a lot of these! ;-)=20
Zony Mash CD-R BRANCH (3)=20
Zony Mash CD-R LEAF (0)

A note about leaves: the number of leaf positions available depend on the=20
number of branch applications I get. If we get more leaf applications then=20
there are positions, the postitions will be filled on a first-come,=20
first-served basis. If you are unfortunately left off the tree, I can't=20
personally burn a copy for you, nor can I set you up with someone who can.

The moral of this story is if you can sign up as a branch, please do so! =A0=20
The second moral of the story is that Zony Mash is a taper friendly band! =
=A0Go=20
see them! Tape them with the best equipment you can get your hands on! =A0It=
's=20
SOOOOO worth it!

This is a not-for-profit CD-r tree. If participants choose to send blank dat=
a=20
CD-rs and return postage instead of trading, that is their prerogative.
Any comments or questions? Please write [e-mail].

- ------------------------- cut here -------------------------=20
Sign-up Form=20
Name:=20
Email Address:=20
Phone Number:=20
What sort of CD-R deck do you have:=20
Can you burn DAO?:=20
Standalone or PC-based:=20
IDE or SCSI:=20
CD mastering software:=20
Preferred CD-r media:=20
Do you prefer to trade CD-rs with your parent/children, or send blanks?:=20
Location of CD-r list online:=20

Please send your completed form back to [e-mail]
Don't forget to check http://members.aol.com/baba666/tree.html after the=20
deadline for the tree structure!

- -

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 10:07:33 +0100
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Fripp

> >. Robert Fripp uses
> >one a lot. Anyway, I think their web site is http://www.ebow.com.
>  This is a common misconception. Fripp's "infinite sustain"=20
> technique comes from controlled feedback and fleet fingers. He was=20
> doing it that way long before the e-bow was invented.

I'm 99.9% certain he uses an ebow on "A Fearful Symmetry" on
the League of Crafty Guitarists album. No way this is done with
feedback, anyway. But I stand corrected on the "uses one a lot"
point.

Having proved I'm no great expert on RF, I'll stick my neck out and
say I think it's about time he was recognised as one of the great
guitarists to have emerged since the late 60s (yes, I know he was
playing before then...). For my money he knocks all those fusion
boys-with-toys into a cocked hat (possible exception: John
McLaughlin). The "frippertronics" thing doesn't do much for me, but
even so I enjoy his playing probably more than any of his
contemporaries, bar Derek Bailey.

Rich

- --------------------------------------------
Visit (musings), a resource for free jazz,
experimental and otherwise non-standard musics:
http://come.to/musings.com
...now with its own mailing list, musings-l

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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 15:44:16 +0100
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (musings) update

As well as a batch of new reviews, (musings) now carries MP3s of
new reviews, an internal search engine, expanded links to the rest
of the world and more.

Latest reviews:
Evan Parker, Fred van Hove, Derek Bailey, Larner/Hikage/Gelb,
John Butcher/ Phil Durrant/ John Russell, Assumed Possibilities,
Michael Doneda,  Bertrand Denzler Cluster, Bonehouse, Vincenzo
Mazzone, Veryan Weston/John Edwards/ Mark Sanders,
Statements Quintet, Ueli Derendinger, Not Missing Drums Project

Thanks for your time; apologies for x-posting.

Richard Cochrane

- --------------------------------------------
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experimental and otherwise non-standard musics:
http://come.to/musings.com
...now with its own mailing list, musings-l

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