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From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest)
To: zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Zorn List Digest V2 #632
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Zorn List Digest Thursday, March 25 1999 Volume 02 : Number 632
In this issue:
-
Re: Has anybody seen my head
Cecil Taylor Radio
NOT MUCH ZORN: soup disk?
Re: Secret Chiefs 3
(musings) update
Econ just 4 musicians
Negativland
Re: Negativland
CT correction
CT correction
Bailey Live Review
negitivland- book
Re: negitivland- book
M. Zerang
Re: Bailey Live Review
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 08:44:18 -0300
From: "J.A.Bueno" <jabu@sminter.com.ar>
Subject: Re: Has anybody seen my head
Michael Zerang has a beautiful cd in Chicago`s label =B4Eight day music=B4=
,title is
"the Ballad of Frankie and Johnny".
Antonio
GUSTAVO.BROGGI@monsanto.com wrote:
> Hello, I know I am a little late with this comments, but I cannt
> control my feelings about this topic. Last Monday I received my co=
py
> (#1463) of Peter Br=F6tzmanns Chicago Octet Tentet, and it blew ou=
t my
> mind. I began to heard it yesterday late in the night, and I had s=
top
> because my wife woke up at 2:00 a.m asking about "that noise". I a=
m
> sure it is the beautiful sound of chaos under control. I am a newy=
on
> this things, but from my humble point of view I would like to enco=
urage
> those members who havennt had the opportunity to hear this 3cd pac=
kage
> try to do it. You will start enjoying the esperience as soon as yo=
u see
> the packaging.
>
> Can anybody give me more information and recommendation about Mich=
ael
> Zerang and his jobs as leader or sessionist?. His compositions
> included on the Chicago 8tet 10tet cds. are amazing.
> Just my humble two drops in the ocean
> Regards
> Gustavo
>
> -
- -
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 99 08:46:52 -0500
From: brian_olewnick@smtplink.mssm.edu
Subject: Cecil Taylor Radio
A reminder to NYC area listers: WKCR is celebrating the master's 70th
birthday today by, as is their custom, playing wall-to-wall Cecil all
day.
Brian Olewnick
(I know there's some dispute about his DOB, but KCR's going with
70...)
- -
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 09:37:51 -0500
From: Matthew Shepherd <shep@globetrotter.net>
Subject: NOT MUCH ZORN: soup disk?
The tentative connection is that soup is a Japanese label and Zorn
spends lots of time in Japan.
Picked up the Soup "Out Of Perspective" comp last week and I'm heartily
impressed. A label that seems largely dedicated to slick blends of
drum&bass and jazz. The jazz end of things is a little light, but it's
still pretty freakin' cool.
Does anybody know anything else about Soup? Their website is nice, but
not as informative as it might be.
- --
"I had a dog named Shep. He was a good dog, too."
- - E. Presley
Matt Shepherd
shep@globetrotter.net
- -
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 01:37:04 +1100
From: "Julian" <jcurwin@hartingdale.com.au>
Subject: Re: Secret Chiefs 3
> SC3's first CD is different from their second.
> It's more noise oriented, much like early negativland. At least that's
how
> I remember it.
Speaking of Negativland, any recommendations? I've heard good things about
them, and about a cd where someone asks someone called David about
cigarettes... That's all I really know, and it intrigues me somehow...
- -
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 14:31:30 -0000
From: Richard@rcvs.org.uk
Subject: (musings) update
Announcing the latest (musings) update; you can now find reviews
of the following new releases at http://come.to/musings.com.
Fred Frith Guitar Quartet (Ambiances Magnetiques: AM063CD)
Fred Frith, Mark Stewart, Nick Didkovsky, Rene Lussier (guitars)
Icarus: Icarus (FMR: CD15-V11298)
Philipp Wachsmann (violin, electronics), Roger Curphy (double bass),
Mark Wastell (cello), Carol Ann Jackson (voice), Trevor Taylor
(percussion, electronics)
Martin Archer: Ghost Lily Cascade (Discus: 4CD)
Martin Archer: Pure Water Construction (Discus: 4CD)
Martin Archer (electronics, sopranino sax, violin) with a cast of, well
twenty or so free improvisors.
Ned Bouhalassa: Aerosol(Diffusion i Media: IMED9840)
Ned Bouhalassa (electronics)
Darren Copeland: Rendu Visible(Diffusion i Media: IMED9841)
Darren Copeland (electronics)
Yves Daoust: Musiques Naives(Diffusion i Media: IMED9843)
Yves Daoust (electronics)
Jaques Tremblay: Alibi(Diffusion i Media: IMED9841)
Jacques Tremblay (electronics)
Brasserie Trio: Musique Mecaniques (Leo: CDLR269)
Carlo Actis Dato (reeds), Alberto Mandarini (trumpet), Lauro Rossi
(trombone)
Dominic Duval: Equinox (Leo: CDLR267)
Dominic Duval (bass, mallets, piano, cymbal, voice), Tomas Ulrich (cello,
voice, whistle), Michael Jefry Stevens (piano, mallets))
Guyvoronsky and Petrova: Chonyi Together (Leo: CDLR268)
Vyacheslav Guyvoronsky (trumpet), Evelin Petrova (accordion)
Ivo Perelman: Brazilian Watercolour (Leo: CDLR266)
Ivo Perelman (tenor sax, recorder, piano), Matthew Shipp (piano),
Rashied Ali (drums), Guillherme Franco (percussion, wooden flute), Cyro
Baptista (percussion, wooden flute)
Day & Taxi: About (Percaso: 17)
Christoph Gallio (reeds), Dominique Girod (bass), Dieter Ulrich (drums))
FJQ: FJQ (RM: RM001)
Ntshuks Bonga (alto sax), Alfredo Genovesi (guitar), Jerry Bird (bass),
Robin Musgrove (drums)
With the usualy apologies for cross-posting,
Richard Cochrane
- --------------------------------------------
Visit (musings), a resource for free jazz,
experimental and otherwise non-standard musics:
http://come.to/musings.com
...now with its own mailing list, musings-l
- -
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 99 10:04:02 -0500
From: kurt_gottschalk@scni.com
Subject: Econ just 4 musicians
Sorry to post this twice, but we forgot to put the date. March 27. 6 p.m. Please
come.
OK, you've all gone to see bands play music. But how much of your hard
earned dough actually makes its way to the musicians bustin' their asses up
there on stage just to give you a good time/enliven your soul/enrich your
consciousness... whatever? Ever wonder? In most cases, the answer is "not
enough!" Club owners suck the cash you pay at the bar and get big old
sponsorships from multi-national companies. So come to a panel discussion
this Saturday to learn about the reality our hardworking musicians are
living with, what are their strategies for change, what organizing models
work for them (in NYC's downtown scene), and how you can help! (or if you
live out of town, fyi cause you might be interested!)
"Pay to Play?" panel re. Economic Justice for Musicians: featuring Stanley
Aronowitz, Marc Ribot, Jane Scarpantoni, Lianne Smith and Greg Tate
co-sponsored by the Noise Action Coalition & Neues Kabarett
at the Brecht Forum at 122 West 27th Street, 10th Floor, 6-8 pm
$6-10 no one turned away for lack 'o dough
for info call 212-242-4201
- -
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 07:27:43 PST
From: "Douglas Clarke" <dugc@hotmail.com>
Subject: Negativland
Negativland are currently based out of good ol' Concord California (I'd
like to give a shout out to all you Concord Metal Women (CMW), bigger
hair still existing!), a city where I used to work. East San Francisco
Bay. They do A LOT OF GOOD STUFF. Albums, radio broadcasts, they have a
label called SEELAND that just put out the new Panty Christ cd. Look!
http://www.negativland.com
- -Doug
(currently listening to Secret Chiefs)
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
- -
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 10:35:11 -0500 (EST)
From: alissa bader <molbloo@interport.net>
Subject: Re: Negativland
oh, negativland kick ass. who could ever forget their tribute to Casey
Kasem/American Top 40 on their U2 album?
"This is American Top 40.
This is bullshit."
- --alissa
On Thu, 25 Mar 1999, Douglas Clarke wrote:
> Negativland are currently based out of good ol' Concord California (I'd
> like to give a shout out to all you Concord Metal Women (CMW), bigger
> hair still existing!), a city where I used to work. East San Francisco
> Bay. They do A LOT OF GOOD STUFF. Albums, radio broadcasts, they have a
> label called SEELAND that just put out the new Panty Christ cd. Look!
>
> http://www.negativland.com
>
> -Doug
> (currently listening to Secret Chiefs)
> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
>
> -
>
>
- -
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 99 09:42:51 -0500
From: brian_olewnick@smtplink.mssm.edu
Subject: CT correction
Oops. Wrong on the all-day part of the previous post, at least. The
morning program was all CT and I thought it was going to continue, but
there's some un-CT-like string playing at the moment, so....perhaps
the remainder of the jazz programming will resume with more Taylor.
B.
- -
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 99 09:42:51 -0500
From: brian_olewnick@smtplink.mssm.edu
Subject: CT correction
Oops. Wrong on the all-day part of the previous post, at least. The
morning program was all CT and I thought it was going to continue, but
there's some un-CT-like string playing at the moment, so....perhaps
the remainder of the jazz programming will resume with more Taylor.
B.
- -
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 10:40:58 -0500
From: David Keffer <keffer@planetc.com>
Subject: Bailey Live Review
Well, thanks to somebody or another on the Zorn List,
I heard about Derek Bailey playing in Chattanooga
last night. I attended and I'll give a short review.
After work, I drive the 110 miles from Knoxville to Chattanooga
and I find in a run-down neighborhood next to downtown, a sign in
front of this unlit building that says "Lamar's Restaurant and Motel".
Half the sign is busted up and all of it is unlit. The facility is
obviously not in operation. There appear to be no lights on inside
the building. I am kind of skeptical of this but I climb up some
steep concrete stairs to the entrance. Inside, in what
was at one time a motel lobby, some twenty-something people, sort
of hip-looking sort of very unhip-looking (in a hip proportion of the
two, of course), are hanging out in some diner booths. There
is a very narrow hallway leading from this lobby and I follow
it, finding no other alternate direction. This hallway passes
by motel rooms on either side. In these motel rooms, the doors
are open and various people are sitting around, talking,
smoking, drinking. I keep going. At the end of the hall, I
find a small "banquet hall". The room is in the original 1960's
decor. In a semi-ridiculous imitation of a large hotel banquet
halls, this room can be divided into four smaller halls, each
about the size of a small bedroom. The partitions which could divide
the room are these brittle accordion-like red plastic devices that
are partially extended, because, apparently they won't draw
completely back into the recesses. The walls of the room are
covered with old orange "autumn leaves falling" wallpaper.
The wallpaper is peeling off in places. In other places, the
wallpaper is held up by purple, blue, and white 1980's era
airbrush-painting-style posters of jazz saxophone players.
The room is lit by several 1960's dim flat-pane brown-glass
chandeliers. The room is filled with freaks, freaks like
you don't find in a southern state like Tennessee, unless
you go to some decrepit, closed-down motel, follow a narrow hall,
and end up where I have ended up. Very interesting. A large,
round, young man wearing a fuzzy white fez, a black plastic Mardi
Gras mask, and a thin robe, which appears to have been made out
of a bedsheet covered with a giant replica of the PAC-MAN gameboard,
mills about the crowd as if he were the pontiff of the gathering.
A variety of other notable-looking denizens of Chattanooga are
also roaming around but most of the 150 or so people in the room
have their eyes focused on the source of music emanating from
the back of the room. There, will you believe it, in a closed-down
motel on the edge of the Chattanooga slums, is Derek Bailey,
plinking and plonking on his guitar.
Bailey sounded awesome, his playing sounded like his playing
on Harras. I could not have imagined a better venue than
"Lamar's Restaurant and Motel". He was the OPENING BAND for a
local Chattanooga act that I had never heard of. Bailey
was playing with two guys (from Chattanooga?) on drums and
synthesizer. They were just making some background rumble
to Bailey's playing. It sounded good. The sound quality in
the motel was pretty lo-tech but still sounded good. On the
last song, the keyboardist (a skinny, closely-shaved head,
balding white guy) got a microphone and started rapping,
but just sounds, chookachookachookachooka, stuff like that,
no words, and then got up and did a real freak show spaz dance
to Derek Bailey's playing. It would have been a real horrible
thing to witness had it not been located inside this motel hall.
As it was, he received a standing ovation for the performance.
I applauded as well; I was enamored with the entire affair,
not excluding the man in the PAC-MAN sheet who continued to pace
the hall throughout the show.
Later,
David K.
p.s.
If any of you ever happen to be in Chattanooga, I highly
recommend that you stop by "Lamar's Restaurant and Motel",
regardless of whether Derek Bailey is playing there.
p.p.s.
For you folks in Atlanta...The same trio is playing again
on Saturday
Bailey, Stagner & Palmer
March 27, 1999 8:30 p.m.
at First Existentialist Congregation Church
470 Candler Park Drive NE
Atlanta GA
(1/2 mile from lil' 5-points)
advance tickets avaiable at Wax n' Facts
$10 advance and $12 day of show
for more information call (404)622-3355
or e-mail euprod@aol.com
Seeing these guys in a church ought to be pretty good,
especially an existentialist church.
- -
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 10:44:20 -0800
From: Jason Tors <jtors@organic.com>
Subject: negitivland- book
Negitivland also put out an interesting book that is very applicable to our
modern medium of communication. Ultimately it was about replication and
distortion of digital information and identity cover band. The book is
represented a series of court cases highlighting their battles with u2
[island records] and casey kasum. After reading the book, the music made a
lot more sense to me, it became highly conceptual music with a social
voice.
- -
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 10:49:42 -0500 (EST)
From: alissa bader <molbloo@interport.net>
Subject: Re: negitivland- book
I think it was called _Fair Use_ (not certain). Anyway, I'll never forget
the WFMU (NYC's) description for this item: "Buy it before the lawsuit!"
heh.
- --alissa
molbloo@interport.net
On Thu, 25 Mar 1999, Jason Tors wrote:
> Negitivland also put out an interesting book that is very applicable to our
> modern medium of communication. Ultimately it was about replication and
> distortion of digital information and identity cover band. The book is
> represented a series of court cases highlighting their battles with u2
> [island records] and casey kasum. After reading the book, the music made a
> lot more sense to me, it became highly conceptual music with a social
> voice.
>
> -
>
>
- -
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 11:36:32 -0500 (EST)
From: William York <wyork@email.unc.edu>
Subject: M. Zerang
> BTW, I think Zerang has just put out a 2-CD set of his work (with Fred
> Longberg-Holm) on an even more obscure Chicago label.
Could this be the 2CD _Earth Sessions_ set w/ pianist Jim Baker on Box
Media. If so, it's in an entirely different mode, more classically
inspired (disc 1 -piano/drums) and maybe like hyper AMM or other British
improvisors on disc 2 (percussion and ARP synthesizer).
He also has a duet CD w/ Hamid Drake on Okka Disc (haven't heard it) and
at least one recording with Ken Vandermark - "Eightball" (a 7-inch 2 song
single which I really like). Maybe if Vandermark does something else with
his quartet Zerang will be involved with that (as opposed to the V5 which
is a different thing).
WY
- -
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 08:42:52 PST
From: "Michael Boock" <mboock@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Bailey Live Review
Anyone have other DB tour dates? I'm heading south next week and would
love to catch him.
Thanks,
MB
>From: David Keffer <keffer@planetc.com>
>To: zorn-list@lists.xmission.com
>Subject: Bailey Live Review
>Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 10:40:58 -0500
>
>
>Well, thanks to somebody or another on the Zorn List,
>I heard about Derek Bailey playing in Chattanooga
>last night. I attended and I'll give a short review.
>
>After work, I drive the 110 miles from Knoxville to Chattanooga
>and I find in a run-down neighborhood next to downtown, a sign in
>front of this unlit building that says "Lamar's Restaurant and Motel".
>Half the sign is busted up and all of it is unlit. The facility is
>obviously not in operation. There appear to be no lights on inside
>the building. I am kind of skeptical of this but I climb up some
>steep concrete stairs to the entrance. Inside, in what
>was at one time a motel lobby, some twenty-something people, sort
>of hip-looking sort of very unhip-looking (in a hip proportion of the
>two, of course), are hanging out in some diner booths. There
>is a very narrow hallway leading from this lobby and I follow
>it, finding no other alternate direction. This hallway passes
>by motel rooms on either side. In these motel rooms, the doors
>are open and various people are sitting around, talking,
>smoking, drinking. I keep going. At the end of the hall, I
>find a small "banquet hall". The room is in the original 1960's
>decor. In a semi-ridiculous imitation of a large hotel banquet
>halls, this room can be divided into four smaller halls, each
>about the size of a small bedroom. The partitions which could divide
>the room are these brittle accordion-like red plastic devices that
>are partially extended, because, apparently they won't draw
>completely back into the recesses. The walls of the room are
>covered with old orange "autumn leaves falling" wallpaper.
>The wallpaper is peeling off in places. In other places, the
>wallpaper is held up by purple, blue, and white 1980's era
>airbrush-painting-style posters of jazz saxophone players.
>The room is lit by several 1960's dim flat-pane brown-glass
>chandeliers. The room is filled with freaks, freaks like
>you don't find in a southern state like Tennessee, unless
>you go to some decrepit, closed-down motel, follow a narrow hall,
>and end up where I have ended up. Very interesting. A large,
>round, young man wearing a fuzzy white fez, a black plastic Mardi
>Gras mask, and a thin robe, which appears to have been made out
>of a bedsheet covered with a giant replica of the PAC-MAN gameboard,
>mills about the crowd as if he were the pontiff of the gathering.
>A variety of other notable-looking denizens of Chattanooga are
>also roaming around but most of the 150 or so people in the room
>have their eyes focused on the source of music emanating from
>the back of the room. There, will you believe it, in a closed-down
>motel on the edge of the Chattanooga slums, is Derek Bailey,
>plinking and plonking on his guitar.
>
>Bailey sounded awesome, his playing sounded like his playing
>on Harras. I could not have imagined a better venue than
>"Lamar's Restaurant and Motel". He was the OPENING BAND for a
>local Chattanooga act that I had never heard of. Bailey
>was playing with two guys (from Chattanooga?) on drums and
>synthesizer. They were just making some background rumble
>to Bailey's playing. It sounded good. The sound quality in
>the motel was pretty lo-tech but still sounded good. On the
>last song, the keyboardist (a skinny, closely-shaved head,
>balding white guy) got a microphone and started rapping,
>but just sounds, chookachookachookachooka, stuff like that,
>no words, and then got up and did a real freak show spaz dance
>to Derek Bailey's playing. It would have been a real horrible
>thing to witness had it not been located inside this motel hall.
>As it was, he received a standing ovation for the performance.
>I applauded as well; I was enamored with the entire affair,
>not excluding the man in the PAC-MAN sheet who continued to pace
>the hall throughout the show.
>
>Later,
>
>David K.
>
>p.s.
>If any of you ever happen to be in Chattanooga, I highly
>recommend that you stop by "Lamar's Restaurant and Motel",
>regardless of whether Derek Bailey is playing there.
>
>p.p.s.
>For you folks in Atlanta...The same trio is playing again
>on Saturday
>
>Bailey, Stagner & Palmer
>March 27, 1999 8:30 p.m.
>at First Existentialist Congregation Church
>470 Candler Park Drive NE
>Atlanta GA
>(1/2 mile from lil' 5-points)
>
>advance tickets avaiable at Wax n' Facts
>$10 advance and $12 day of show
>
>for more information call (404)622-3355
>or e-mail euprod@aol.com
>
>Seeing these guys in a church ought to be pretty good,
>especially an existentialist church.
>
>
>-
>
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
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