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From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest)
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Subject: Zorn List Digest V2 #548
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Zorn List Digest Monday, December 7 1998 Volume 02 : Number 548
In this issue:
-
Re: Zorn book
Rome recommendations?
Re: Zorn book
Re: Kronos Quartet - 25 Years
Re: Zorn book
Re: Dogon A.D.
small stores rule & so do these crispell's CDs
Re: Audience for classical/chamber music (Mr. Drury's question)
Haino/Baron/Cohen
Ensamble music
Re: Haino/Baron/Cohen
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Date: Sun, 06 Dec 1998 19:25:43 -0500
From: Taylor McLaren <tmclaren@uoguelph.ca>
Subject: Re: Zorn book
MEEP! Eric John Lundberg wrote:
>A couple of months ago somebody posted a message about a Zorn book called
>Sonora or something.
It's apparently being put out by somebody associated with the Italian label
Materiali Sonori, but I'll be damned if I can connect with their Web site
(http://www.matson.it should get you at least part of the way there, but
the server sends back a "you aren't authorized to view directory listings"
message, and I haven't been able to guess the name of a single page on the
site yet). There are a couple of links to their site from different search
engines, including a few that are artist-specific, but absolutely nothing
that I've found so far. Does anybody know of a URL that actually leads
somewhere at the moment?
- -me
- -
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 01:39:31 +0100
From: "J. Kan" <j.kan@agora.it>
Subject: Rome recommendations?
Yet another of these requests....
I'm in Rome for a few months. Any ideas for interesting musical or other
avant-whatever events? Record stores? Radio stations? Gelato? Pedestrian
survival skills?
Jim
- -
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 06 Dec 1998 17:32:18 PST
From: "Scott Handley" <c123018@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Zorn book
I got through to the site, so maybe everyon else did to, but for those
of you who can't, and who can read Italian, here's the info from the
site, which is http://www.matson.it/Mb/Card/SonoraZorn/SonoraZorn.html:
ITINERARI OLTRE IL SUONO
JOHN ZORN
a cura di Carla Chiti & Walter Rovere
Il ritorno del progetto SONORA.
Dopo quattro anni, riprende vita una delle pi∙ interessanti
iniziative editoriali della Materiali Sonori.
Uno strumento internazionale
di riflessione e di documentazione
per i pi∙ importanti eventi musicali e culturali.
Maestro d'azzardo
Giampiero Bigazzi
Ancora una volta Sonora si cimenta in un gioco di frammenti, tentando di
fissare (termine forse non
proprio adeguato in questo contesto) i primi venticinque anni dell'
attivitα di John Zorn.
Abbiamo tentato di esaminare (e documentare) il linguaggio zorniano, la
sua vicenda artistica, le sue
opinioni, il suo porsi nella musica e verso la musica. Un percorso alla
ricerca di tracce sul suo
personalissimo rapporto con lo strumento, la sua voce mediata, e poi la
sfida con gli altri arnesi, il filtro
della registrazione, l'esterno, fino alle sollecitazioni che provengono
dal cinema, dalla letteratura, dal
teatro. I ritrovati collegamenti con la cultura ebraica.
La sua Φ una presenza piena di tensioni, ma i suoi rumori ci sono
apparsi divertimento, libertα presa per
i capelli. Una collezione di reperti e di scorie. Nessun regalo alla
finzione espressiva, ma un filo diretto
dalla mente all'aria, con l'irritante e seducente gioco d'imprecazioni,
di ferite, di richiami, forse di
pentimenti. Ci ha affascinato soprattuto la diversitα di Zorn.
Abbiamo cercato di evitare le buone maniere tipiche del critico d'arte,
ma anche l'incoscienza degli
acc≥liti, cercando di raccontare una storia musicale complessa e per
certi versi esemplare (anche se di
difficile imitazione) per l'epoca in cui viviamo. L'intuizione che ne
scaturisce Φ evidente: l'esercizio
culturale giusto Φ mescolare con equilibrio, ma anche con temerarietα,
elementi diversi, spesso
appartenenti a mondi lontani. Il loro frantumarsi e ricomporsi in nuove
forme Φ la scommessa dei nostri
tempi. E Zorn Φ maestro di questo azzardo. Il suo navigare non parte mai
dal nulla, non lascia fluire il
discorso in un presente che fa tabula rasa di quello che Φ esistito
prima: il confronto con il fenomeno
umano Φ obliquo, sottile, aperto alle sfumature. Raccogliere frammenti
di realtα per poi giocarseli alla
roulette della vita.
nel libro:
Eugene CHADBOURNE - Note sul Disco
Carla CHITI - John Zorn
Alberto PEZZOTTA - Velocitα e Citazione
Franco MINGANTI - Musica, Cinema, Letteratura e altro
Claudio CANAL - Shpil, Klezmer, Shpil
Walter ROVERE - The Ear of the Beholder
immagini 1: Private Collection
writings:
John ZORN - Sound Directions in Fuller's Shock Corridor
John ZORN - L'Atalante
John ZORN - Jack Smith and Flaming Creatures
archivio:
Ela TROYANO - John Zorn's Theatre of Musical Optics
Ruggero BIANCHI - Incontro con John Zorn, New York, 19 marzo 1979
immagini 2: John ZORN - Music Scores
works
nel compact:
ZORN & CHADBOURNE: The Viaduct
CHADBOURNE, BRADFIELD & ZORN: Welcome West
ZORN & CHADBORNE: The Double AA
2000 STATUTES: The English Channel (new mix)
THE CHADBOURNES with ZORN: W VA Spec (newly done version)
_________________________________________
book (144 pag) + compact disc
italiano e inglese
Lit. 32.000
MATERIALI SONORI EDIZIONI MUSICALI
prenotazioni e informazioni:
MATERIALI SONORI
ph. 055.943888 - fx. 055.9120370
e-mail: matinfo@matson.it
>Date: Sun, 06 Dec 1998 19:25:43 -0500
>To: zorn-list@lists.xmission.com
>From: Taylor McLaren <tmclaren@uoguelph.ca>
>Subject: Re: Zorn book
>
>
>MEEP! Eric John Lundberg wrote:
>>A couple of months ago somebody posted a message about a Zorn book
called
>>Sonora or something.
>It's apparently being put out by somebody associated with the Italian
label
>Materiali Sonori, but I'll be damned if I can connect with their Web
site
>(http://www.matson.it should get you at least part of the way there,
but
>the server sends back a "you aren't authorized to view directory
listings"
>message, and I haven't been able to guess the name of a single page on
the
>site yet). There are a couple of links to their site from different
search
>engines, including a few that are artist-specific, but absolutely
nothing
>that I've found so far. Does anybody know of a URL that actually leads
>somewhere at the moment?
>
>-me
>
>
>-
>
______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
- -
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 1998 18:45:54 -0800
From: Todd Bramy <tbramy@oz.net>
Subject: Re: Kronos Quartet - 25 Years
From what I recall looking at the Kronos website, it is something like
eight discs of material culled from their entire discography and touting
pretty proudly the fact that pieces are presented in their entirely. One
piece was re-recorded for this release: Terry Reily's Cadenza On A Night
Plain.
If Nonesuch is following the same formula they did with Steve Reich's box a
while back, we'll see this new recording released on it's own after a year
or so, as we saw with Reich's Music For 18 Musicians.
Todd
>
>Anyone heard this box set? comments, reviews, opinions?
- -
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 00:14:32 -0500 (EST)
From: ctonelli@trentu.ca
Subject: Re: Zorn book
Does anyone know of any good books on Zorn that were eithier written in
English or were translated, and where to get them? =20
On Sun, 6 Dec 1998, Scott Handley wrote:
> I got through to the site, so maybe everyon else did to, but for those=20
> of you who can't, and who can read Italian, here's the info from the=20
> site, which is http://www.matson.it/Mb/Card/SonoraZorn/SonoraZorn.html:
>=20
> ITINERARI OLTRE IL SUONO=20
>=20
> JOHN ZORN
>=20
> a cura di Carla Chiti & Walter Rovere
>=20
> =20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Il ritorno del progetto SONORA.=20
>=20
> Dopo quattro anni, riprende vita una delle pi=F9 interessant=
i
>=20
> iniziative editoriali della Materiali Sonori.
>=20
> Uno strumento internazionale=20
>=20
> di riflessione e di documentazione=20
>=20
> per i pi=F9 importanti eventi musicali e culturali.
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Maestro d'azzardo
>=20
> Giampiero Bigazzi
>=20
> =20
>=20
> Ancora una volta Sonora si cimenta in un gioco di frammenti, tentando di=
=20
> fissare (termine forse non
> proprio adeguato in questo contesto) i primi venticinque anni dell'=20
> attivit=E0 di John Zorn.
>=20
> Abbiamo tentato di esaminare (e documentare) il linguaggio zorniano, la=
=20
> sua vicenda artistica, le sue
> opinioni, il suo porsi nella musica e verso la musica. Un percorso alla=
=20
> ricerca di tracce sul suo
> personalissimo rapporto con lo strumento, la sua voce mediata, e poi la=
=20
> sfida con gli altri arnesi, il filtro
> della registrazione, l'esterno, fino alle sollecitazioni che provengono=
=20
> dal cinema, dalla letteratura, dal
> teatro. I ritrovati collegamenti con la cultura ebraica.
>=20
> La sua =E8 una presenza piena di tensioni, ma i suoi rumori ci sono=20
> apparsi divertimento, libert=E0 presa per
> i capelli. Una collezione di reperti e di scorie. Nessun regalo alla=20
> finzione espressiva, ma un filo diretto
> dalla mente all'aria, con l'irritante e seducente gioco d'imprecazioni,=
=20
> di ferite, di richiami, forse di
> pentimenti. Ci ha affascinato soprattuto la diversit=E0 di Zorn.=20
>=20
> Abbiamo cercato di evitare le buone maniere tipiche del critico d'arte,=
=20
> ma anche l'incoscienza degli
> acc=F2liti, cercando di raccontare una storia musicale complessa e per=20
> certi versi esemplare (anche se di
> difficile imitazione) per l'epoca in cui viviamo. L'intuizione che ne=20
> scaturisce =E8 evidente: l'esercizio
> culturale giusto =E8 mescolare con equilibrio, ma anche con temerariet=E0=
,=20
> elementi diversi, spesso
> appartenenti a mondi lontani. Il loro frantumarsi e ricomporsi in nuove=
=20
> forme =E8 la scommessa dei nostri
> tempi. E Zorn =E8 maestro di questo azzardo. Il suo navigare non parte ma=
i=20
> dal nulla, non lascia fluire il
> discorso in un presente che fa tabula rasa di quello che =E8 esistito=20
> prima: il confronto con il fenomeno
> umano =E8 obliquo, sottile, aperto alle sfumature. Raccogliere frammenti=
=20
> di realt=E0 per poi giocarseli alla
> roulette della vita.
>=20
>=20
>=20
> nel libro:
>=20
> Eugene CHADBOURNE - Note sul Disco
>=20
> Carla CHITI - John Zorn
>=20
> Alberto PEZZOTTA - Velocit=E0 e Citazione
>=20
> Franco MINGANTI - Musica, Cinema, Letteratura e altro
>=20
> Claudio CANAL - Shpil, Klezmer, Shpil
>=20
> Walter ROVERE - The Ear of the Beholder
>=20
> immagini 1: Private Collection=20
>=20
> writings:
>=20
> John ZORN - Sound Directions in Fuller's Shock Corridor
>=20
> John ZORN - L'Atalante=20
>=20
> John ZORN - Jack Smith and Flaming Creatures
>=20
> archivio:
>=20
> Ela TROYANO - John Zorn's Theatre of Musical Optics
>=20
> Ruggero BIANCHI - Incontro con John Zorn, New York, 19 marzo 1979
>=20
> immagini 2: John ZORN - Music Scores
>=20
> works
>=20
> =20
>=20
> nel compact:
>=20
> ZORN & CHADBOURNE: The Viaduct=20
>=20
> CHADBOURNE, BRADFIELD & ZORN: Welcome West
>=20
> ZORN & CHADBORNE: The Double AA=20
>=20
> 2000 STATUTES: The English Channel (new mix)
>=20
> THE CHADBOURNES with ZORN: W VA Spec (newly done version)
>=20
> _________________________________________=20
>=20
> book (144 pag) + compact disc=20
>=20
> italiano e inglese
>=20
> Lit. 32.000
>=20
> MATERIALI SONORI EDIZIONI MUSICALI=20
>=20
> prenotazioni e informazioni:=20
>=20
> MATERIALI SONORI
>=20
> ph. 055.943888 - fx. 055.9120370=20
>=20
> e-mail: matinfo@matson.it=20
>=20
>=20
> >Date: Sun, 06 Dec 1998 19:25:43 -0500
> >To: zorn-list@lists.xmission.com
> >From: Taylor McLaren <tmclaren@uoguelph.ca>
> >Subject: Re: Zorn book
> >
> >
> >MEEP! Eric John Lundberg wrote:
> >>A couple of months ago somebody posted a message about a Zorn book=20
> called
> >>Sonora or something. =20
> >It's apparently being put out by somebody associated with the Italian=20
> label
> >Materiali Sonori, but I'll be damned if I can connect with their Web=20
> site
> >(http://www.matson.it should get you at least part of the way there,=20
> but
> >the server sends back a "you aren't authorized to view directory=20
> listings"
> >message, and I haven't been able to guess the name of a single page on=
=20
> the
> >site yet). There are a couple of links to their site from different=20
> search
> >engines, including a few that are artist-specific, but absolutely=20
> nothing
> >that I've found so far. Does anybody know of a URL that actually leads
> >somewhere at the moment?
> >
> >-me
> >
> >
> >-
> >
>=20
>=20
> ______________________________________________________
> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
>=20
> -
>=20
>=20
- -
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 00:33:00 -0500
From: Steve Smith <ssmith36@sprynet.com>
Subject: Re: Dogon A.D.
hijk wrote:
> I spoke to Tim Berne last night and he said he's made some headway in
> getting Dogon back out. It'll have to be a European release and imported to
> the US, but at least it will be available.
Further, before the question gets asked, "Reflections" was not available for
license in a combined package because it is being remastered for release as
"Coon Bid'ness."
Steve Smith
ssmith36@sprynet.com
- -
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 1998 22:29:47 -0800
From: Martin_Wisckol@link.freedom.com (Martin Wisckol)
Subject: small stores rule & so do these crispell's CDs
i'm not a purist about it and i enjoy the overwhelming stock of towers
NYC as much as the next guy, but do strongly favor independent coffee
shops, record stores, etc.... it's not so much the practical aspect
that i've generally been able to develop relationships and order things
cheaper than i could get them at virgin megastore or b&n, although that
helps. more, i like the personality and spirit of the independents.
independents had to the sense of community -- the best megastores can
do is help to reflect and facilitate it. there's something orewellian
about the biggies -- they may stock stuff for freaks like us zornies,
but it's all with an eye on the bottom line. the independents are more
often doing it for the love of the endeavor.
perhaps i'm a romantic. i do find it common for an artist' biggest
innovations to come earlier in his career. seems like you could breaks
the major ones into three categories: 1. big splash and then
diminishing returns, or refinements of the big splash (see a. braxton's
theory of tradition, reconstruction and stylism, which is basically
thesis-antithesis-synthesis) (i would place harry partch in this
category -- he developed his scales and approach young. the biggest
change later on was that he let go of his distaste for "lyricism,"
which might be huge for someone else but was relatively minor
considering his other innovations). 2. several big splashes. (miles) 3.
cat who develops steadily steadily steadily and blossoms with his
biggest beauty later in his career (tommy flanagan)....
my favorite by marilyn crispell are "gaia" and "nothing every was,
anyway."
np: tom waits, the black rider
- -
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 11:33:49 +0200
From: "J.T. de Boer" <J.T.de.Boer@let.rug.nl>
Subject: Re: Audience for classical/chamber music (Mr. Drury's question)
In Europe Zorn only plays in the big cities also. I think it's a
matter of how much support the local and state authorities spend to
the arts. Holland (where I come from) has a well developped
art-policy which also concerns 'foreign' artists, but still they only
play in the large cities.
> The difference between here
> (North Carolina) and
> Europe, possibly, is that
> there isn't a large enough audience anywhere outside of big cities for
> such programs as the recent Zorn chamber music tour to pay the bills.
Jeroen
- -
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 13:20:47 +0100 (MET)
From: FJG_Lamerikx <flamerik@best.ms.philips.com>
Subject: Haino/Baron/Cohen
I saw the Haino/Baron/Cohen album advertised in the latest issue of The Wire
(it doesn't receive a review yet, though). Has anybody here (David Keffer?)
already heard it?
Frankco.
- -
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 13:57:49 -0300 (GMT-0300)
From: perojo@unsl.edu.ar
Subject: Ensamble music
Hello:
if anyone want taste some good songs, in mp3 formmat; take a look
at http://inter2.unsl.edu.ar/~gborbon/ensamble.html . Txs.
-. Pablo R. .-
- -
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 12:06:06 EST
From: JonAbbey2@aol.com
Subject: Re: Haino/Baron/Cohen
In a message dated 12/7/98 7:25:30 AM, flamerik@best.ms.philips.com wrote:
<<I saw the Haino/Baron/Cohen album advertised in the latest issue of The Wire
(it doesn't receive a review yet, though). Has anybody here (David Keffer?)
already heard it?>>
I've heard it a few times. It's very beautiful, and I'm planning to pick it up
when it's released next month in the US. It's a side of Haino that I haven't
heard on disc yet, something like what he was going for with Dresser and Baron
at Tonic last month, but the record works better than that show did.
Jon
- -
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