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zorn-list Digest       Wednesday, March 26 1997       Volume 02 : Number 072



In this issue:

    New Tzadik catalog
    Re: Rodd Keith
    swell
    Re: Rodd Keith
    New Frith Disc
    Tzadik 1997 Catalog
    Duck Baker
    Re: Duck Baker
    new patton cd.
    address change/new releases/new distributor
    Herbie Nichols
    Human Feel review
    Mike Patton: Pranzo Oltranzista
    Patton
    Re: Samples (Otomo (was Burroughs))
    Bloodcount cancelled
    Patton release
    Re: Painkiller / Grindcore
    Re: Painkiller / Grindcore
    Baron Crackshot
    uk tours
    new Tzadiks
    Ellery Eskelin Trio(w/Andrea Parkins & Jim Black)@ICA, Boston
    Re: new Tzadiks
    masada 4
    Re: masada 4
    Re: masada 4
    Re: masada 4
    [none]
    New CD on Avant
    Concerts in London
    Concerts in London
    DAT traders
    filmworks
    Re: filmworks
    New Zorn events at the Knit
    Re: filmworks... Ikue Mori
    cyro
    Virus
    virus stuff
    TRADITIONS IN EAST ASIAN BAR BANDS available?
    Dim Sum Clip Job (on "Avant") appear with Joe Maneri,Prelapse,Saturnalia

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Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 21:28:26 -0500
From: Tom Pratt <[e-mail]>
Subject: New Tzadik catalog

> And I couldn't help but smile when I saw the following description of the
> Burt Bacharach 2 CD tribute: "This incredible collection is essential
> listening to anybody interested in anything."  But given the lineup, that
> is probably quite right: Wayne Horvitz, Marc Ribot, Dave Douglas, Guy
> Klucevsek, Kramer, Erik Friedlander, Joey Baron, Zeena Parkins, Fred Frith,
> Medeski Martin & Wood, Elliott Sharp, Marie McAuliffe, Mike Patton, Lloyd
> Cole, Robert Quine, Anthony Coleman, Yuka Honda, Sean Lennon, Shelley
> Hirsch, Bill Frisell.

When will this be released?

        -Tom Pratt

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Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 00:05:04 -0500 (EST)
From: Christopher Hamilton <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Rodd Keith

On Mon, 17 Mar 1997, Scott Chamberlin wrote:

> The other release on the tzadik's Lunatic Fringe is Rodd Keith.  I do
> not see why anyone would buy this CD.  It is probally one of the worst
> CD's I have ever heard.  Rodd Keith was some guy that took
> "Send us your lyric" submissions and wrote music for them.  I would
> describe it as real flitty 60's music.  But I guess if you like that
> kind of stuff . . .?

The description of this struck me as intriguing, and I was thinking of
checking it out, but now I dunno.  Anyone hear this and not hate it?

Chris Hamilton

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Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 15:22:20 -0800
From: hywel davies <[e-mail]>
Subject: swell

someone asked about steve swell?...he has a duo project out on cimp with
chris kelsey (can't recall the title) does anyone know what mr. kelsey
plays?

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Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 10:46:46 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Linda Highland)
Subject: Re: Rodd Keith

I've only heard a little of Rodd keth proper, and found it fun...know
many who love him.  BUT those "send us your lyrics " records are GREAT!
The "Smooth Music" comp is truly a thing of wonder and awe, with such
gems and "A Convertible and a Headband Make the Scene', "JimmyCarter
Says Yes," and other noteworthies.....Not "art", but a lot more
interesting than most of what you hear on the radio...

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Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 16:31:49 +0000
From: Scott Russell <[e-mail]>
Subject: New Frith Disc

Dear all

Just for information, I have just purchased the new Fred Frith Tzadik
disc, Ear to Eye. It's part of Tzadik's Film Works series and features
excerpts from several soundtracks composed by Frith. The music is a
mixture of melodic compositions, moody soundscapes and some
improvisation (I think). There's a small band and Frith plays his
usual guitar and assorted manipulations. I found all the music highly
entertaining. It's not a startling new direction but it will please
fans and does feature some good,fractured guitar playing and a
rattling guitar/organ duet.

There seems to be a plethora of Tzadik new releases, I've also seen
the Naked City Black Box, the new Mike Patton disc and another radical
jewish culture disc. I'm waiting to see the Bacharach disc and the new
Bob Ostertag  one. Has anyone heard any of these new discs? I'd be
interessted in any opinions.

Scott Russell.

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Date: Tue, 18 Mar 97 11:56:55
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Tzadik 1997 Catalog

Could somebody tell where I could find the Tzadik 1997
catalog online? Or could somebody who has it post it?
The website at kochint.com hasn't been updated in a while.

- -------------------------------------
Andrew Marks
Software Engineer
MTS-PowerTek, Inc.

E-mail: [e-mail]
Date: 3/18/97
Time: 11:56:55 AM

Buckethead was raised in the chicken
coop by chickens.
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Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 18:14:13 +0100
From: [e-mail] (Jacques Oger)
Subject: Duck Baker

Does somebody know (maybe Patrice):
who is Duck Baker ? I saw an information about a Tzadik release (playing
Herbie Nichols). What is it? It sounds fine.


Jacques

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Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 10:56:06 -0800
From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Duck Baker

On Tue, 18 Mar 1997 18:14:13 +0100  Jacques Oger wrote:
>
> Does somebody know (maybe Patrice):
> who is Duck Baker ? I saw an information about a Tzadik release (playing
> Herbie Nichols). What is it? It sounds fine.

From a previous post by Steve Smith:

- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The full title is "Spinning Song - Duck Baker Plays the Music of
Herbie Nichols."  It's a solo guitar record and it's wonderful.

Here are the tracks:
1. The Third World      4:03
2. The Happenings       4:34
3. Lady Sings the Blues 5:16
4. Nick at T's          4:46
5. House Party Starting 5:22
6. 2300 Skidoo          4:01
7. Portrait of Ucha     4:06
8. 134th St.            3:46
9. Spinning Song        4:47

It's a solo guitar record.  Duck uses a selection of different
guitars to suit the character of the individual pieces.  He is
a pretty stellar improviser of the John Fahey/Leo Kottke variety
(as opposed to the Derek Bailey variety!).  But Henry Kaiser
and Jim O'Rourke say wonderful things about him, and evidently
the idea of doing a solo Nichols album was Zorn's.

The disc may seem terribly conservative to those who prefer the
extreme, but it's lovely and well-recorded, and really reveals
the architecture of these little bop gems.  I especially like
the woozy blues sliding around in "Lady Sings the Blues."

Baker's notes are intelligent and informative, and reveal that
he spent time with the great trombonist and Nichols champion
Roswell Rudd, who told Baker a great deal about Nichols's life
and circumstances, affecting the way Baker interpreted the
tunes.  "Knowning that Ucha was 'a really crazy lady' in
Nichols' life that Herbie 'maybe never really got over' made
a huge difference when approaching [Portrait of Ucha].  Even the
instrument used - a miniature Mexican guitar with built-in acoustic
distortion - was determined by having that information," Baker
writes in his notes.  He also acknowledges Bruce Ackley, Ben
Goldberg and John Schott as having provided "charts and pointers."

- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Patrice.

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Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 14:57:48 -0600 (CST)
From: "J.Ross" <[e-mail]>
Subject: new patton cd.

I don't know if it's out yet, But has anyone had a chance to listen
to the new patton cd?  If so could you send me a description of it?
I bought adult themes when I came out last year....It's really cool
but kind of hard to listen to....

muchas gracias
J-

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Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 15:05:58 +0000
From: [e-mail] (Tony Reif)
Subject: address change/new releases/new distributor

Hello all,

As of the end of March, mail for Songlines will no longer be received at
the W. Broadway addresses you may have, and unfortunately it cannot be
forwarded either but will be returned.

The correct address now for all correspondence is:

Tony Reif
Songlines Recordings
1003 - 2323 W. 2nd Ave.
Vancouver, B.C. V6K 1J4, Canada

Tel [phone] * fax [phone]
e-mail: [e-mail]

Songlines has two new releases available April 1st:

Marty Ehrlich / Ben Goldberg, Light at the Crossroads (SGL 1511-2)

Two master clarinettists with roots in jazz and new music, one based in New
York and the other in San Francisco, join forces in a fine and varied
program of original compositions for clarinets and/or bass clarinets. Their
swinging quartet is completed by longtime Goldberg collaborators Trevor
Dunn (bass) and Kenny Wollesen (drums). 20-bit recording.

Andy Laster, Interpretations of Lessness (SGL 1515-2)

A suite inspired by Samuel Beckett's short prose work, featuring Laster
(baritone and alto sax), Erik Friedlander (cello), Cuong Vu (trumpet), and
Kenny Wollesen (drums/percussion). Laster establishes a unique and
strangely appealing sound world, capturing something of Beckett's rhythms,
colors, sadness, and obtuse, oddly-vaudevillian humor. 20-bit recording.

These can be ordered direct from Songlines (email me for a complete catalog
and inquire about our special offer), or by credit card from our exclusive
US/Canadian distributor Allegro at 1 800 288 2007.


Tony Reif (Songlines Recordings)

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Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 22:07:03 -0500 (EST)
From: Jim McLoughlin <[e-mail]>
Subject: Herbie Nichols

    Hello Everybody

    I had some Herbie Nichols related questions after the recent post
about Duck Baker's (sorry if the name's wrong) solo guitar album.  It was
mentioned that Zorn proposed the project, and that Ben Goldberg and John
Schott gave some pointers.
    I heard a tape of a live show (don't know the date) that had Zorn,
John Schott, Ben Goldberg, Richard Saunders (bass), and Kenny Wolleson
playing Nichol's compositions.  I believe it was Ben Goldberg's project as
he was announcing the show.  SOOO, my question is if there has been studio
work by this lineup.  I thought I heard one of the tunes on a jazz radio
program recently, except without Zorn.  Is it possible Goldberg put out a
CD of this stuff?  Or is part of the Junk Genius CD on the Knitting
Factory label?
    The arrangements of Nichols' music I heard were very good, and
Zorn tore it up.  A nice blend of groove and out-there/deconstructedness.
    Any info regarding the above, including a date of that show, would
be appreciated.

    Jim

 --



    Jim McLoughlin
    [e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 01:42:44 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Matsumoto Craig)
Subject: Human Feel review

Seeing as the band Human Feel got some ink on this list earlier ...

This is from the February 1997 issue of M3, or "Modern Musician Monthly,"
which publishes out of Freehold, N.J. and apparently focuses on
independent-label music (it's a mag about the music biz for struggling
musicians).  I picked it up free at the Knitting Factory.

Anyway, Human Feel's latest CD makes M3's "Top Two of the Month."
Here's the review, copyright 1997 by C.P.I., reproduced without permission.
Written by Rob Levit.


"Brooklyn-based collective Human Feel makes an excellent and
provocative Songlines debut with _Speak to It_.  The music is
simply beyond category, but could be adequately described as
contemporary improvisation, a punk aesthetic wedded to the
stylistic influences of modern chamber music, Albert Ayler,
Ornette Coleman, and Eastern European sensibilities.  The
amazing thing is that they sound like none of the above.
They synthesize all of those influences to create a sound
of their own.  How do they achieve this?  For starters,
percussionist Jim Black and reedmen Andrew D'Angelo and
Chris Speed have strong ties to Seattle where they grew up
playing music.  Guitarist Kurt Rosenwinkel joined the group
in Boston and four CDs later, they continue to explore the
outer limits of "jazz."

"_Speak To It_ offers a virtual compendium of their advanced
techniques.  Speed's "Darker Joys" is a two-and-a-half minute
thrash featuring two competing riffs that grow, then collide
with each other.  D'Angelo's "Spaze" is a through-composed
chamber piece that features a stunning mix of distorted guitar
with saxophone.  Black's "Tic, Tics" reminds me of the openness
of Ornette's ballads; somber, but sounding almost like an
old spiritual.  On previous Human Feel recordings, Rosenwinkel
contributed to the compositions.  It's ironic that he is
left off the compositional roster, because his guitar is
indispensable to each track.  For the first time on a Human Feel
disc, his sound is well-recorded and equal to the reeds in terms
of function.

"The Mal Waldron tune that features vocalist Holly Palmer,
unfortunately, doesn't quite work.  A fine vocalist recently
signed to Reprise, Palmer's breathy, atmospheric approach seems
a little out of place here."


.. Levit goes on to discuss how only independent labels like Songlines
release this kind of music, and he urges us all to support such labels.
I figured this list didn't need the prodding.  :)

Levit also gives Songlines' phone number as  [phone].

I haven't picked up _Speak To It_ yet, but I've got _Welcome to
Malpesta_, which i discovered through the Black/Speed connection with
Tim Berne's Bloodcount.  I really like Jim Black's work - quick and
deftly packed drum flurries that add a lot of meat to the music.

That's about it ... i just thought it was neat to see a real live
Human Feel review.


- -- Craig Matsumoto
   [e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 08:50:36 --100
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Mike Patton: Pranzo Oltranzista

Well,

I was surprised to find the new Mike Patton album in the store yesterday,
since it was slated for April release. Its full title is "Pranzo Oltranzista:
Musica da Tavola per Cinque (Banquet Music for five Players)". It consists of
11 tracks, or parts if you wish. The whole 31:52 piece is inspired by
Marinetti's 1932 Futurist Cookbook "La Cucina Futurista".

The tracks

 1. Elettricita atmospheriche candite   1:19
 2. Carne cruda squarciata dal suono di sassofono   2:32
 3. Vivanda in scodella   3:15
 4. Guerrainletto   1:51
 5. Contorno tattile (per russolo)   2:01
 6. I rumori nutrienti   4:26
 7. Garofani allo spiedo   2:56
 8. Aerovivanda   2:33
 9. Scoppioingola   3:00
10. Latta alle luce verde   3:24
11. Bombe a mano   4:00

The players

Erik Friedlander: cello
Mike Patton: voice, sound effects
Marc Ribot: guitar
William Winant: percussion
John Zorn: alto saxophone

The music is totally different from the first Patton album. There's hardly any
vocals, and the atmosphere is mostly very laid back, although eerie. (2) reminds
me of the music that is played in the background in restaurants, although it
is interrupted by blasts of noise and squeaking saxophone. I am reminded of
Zorn's Rebird at quite a few places. (6) features some very typical saxophone
playing by Zorn, a bit like his playing on The Sicilian Clan, over an
Eraserhead-like background. Each track is accompanied by a nice futurist
recipe. An example for track (5):

"Undresses lettuce leaves,
 dates and grapes eaten from a
 bowl with right hand (no fork).
 Left hand turns crank of a
 'sound box' which emits
 geometrical sounds and rhythms."

In my opinion, Mike Patton establishes himself as an excellent composer with
this album. Those who were scared off by his first offering can rest assured
that this one is completely different, and actually a pleasure to the ears.

I was also told that Filmworks IV and Masada IV "Dalet" are coming soon...

Frankco.

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Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 13:40:18 +0100 (MEZ)
From: BJOERN <[e-mail]>
Subject: Patton

I bought the new Patton CD yesterday and i really have to say that its
really great....
it has nothin to do with Adult themes... its more instrumental...
the line-up is:

Erik Friedlander - cello
Mike Patton - voice , sound effects
John Zorn - alto
William Winant - perc.
Marc Ribot - guitar

there is not too much voice on the CD... th CD is about eatin in
general... so Patton does a lot of sounds that have sth to do with eatin
..like chewin etc...
it is really a very good CD so check it out
BJOERN

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Date: Wed, 19 Mar 97 08:25:40 -0500
From: Peter Risser <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Samples (Otomo (was Burroughs))

- -- [ From: Peter Risser * EMC.Ver #2.5.03 ] --

Actually Negativland has a history stretching far beyond the U2 scandal.
They were one of the best cut and paste artists of all time.  Big 10-8 place
is genius and Helter Stupid is amazing.

Also Nicolas Collins does real-time sampling, as evidenced on his "100 of
the World's Most Beautiful Melodies" album.

Also a guy called Noah Creshevsky, who has released stuff only on Opus One
records, as far as I know, does great sample work.

Just another 2 cents.
- --
=====================
Group 42, Inc.
www.group42.com
[phone]
=====================

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Date: Wed, 19 Mar 97 10:09:58 EST
From: "M.Ho" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Bloodcount cancelled

Anyone thinking that the Bloodcount show in Richmond, VA is supposed
to go on tonight, you've been lied to.  It was actually supposed to
happen last night but there was all this promo mix up and wrong dates
being advertised that the show eventually was cancelled.  So those
that I know were planning on coming in from out of town--DON'T.  He
will, however, be in Baltimore tonight.
_Mary

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Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 10:28:45 -0500 (EST)
From: Scott T Chamberlin <[e-mail]>
Subject: Patton release

Does the new Patton release reseble 'elegy' in any way.
It seems to look like a similar type of 'modern chamber'
set up.

scott chamberlin
[e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 19:54:01 -0500 (EST)
From: Anthony Saunders <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Painkiller / Grindcore

On Sun, 16 Mar 1997, Allan wrote:

> Anthony said he's looking for:
>    >Painkiller like projects? (mix of jazz, grind, and
>      >ambient, with out the somewhat goofy feel of naked city...)
>        > I'm especially interested in sax/bass/drum trios that blast beat. : )
>
> unfortunately, neither Drop Dead nor the Cripple Bastards have put out any
> records featuring saxophone, to my knowledge...

 Well, thats why I was looking for jazzgrind stuff. I ve got a pretty
good collection of Dropdead, Capitalist Casualties, Man Is The Bastard
(two bass guitar jazz punk, very brutal), spazz, early Napalm Death, Sore
Throat, Agathocles, etc. I am fully entrenched in the NY punk scene, and
have been collecting grind records for the last five or six years... All
of the bands/projects so far suggested are being checked out, as fast as I
can (which is pretty slow, actually)

> Here's another suggestion (and I concur with most of what other folks have
> come up with, especially the 16/17, that may well be the closest to what
> Anthony desires):
>
>      how about The Flying Luttenbachers --> Chicago "no-wave" jazzpunk
> combo that at first featured the saxophone of the late Hal Russell.  Ken
> Vandermark has also appeared with them...on their latest release (on Skin
> Graft), I believe that the saxophone is handled by their (goofy? he's named
> Weasel Walter) drummer.
>
> and then there's a bunch of somewhat inter-related Japanese bands in the
> Naked City vein, goofy or not depending on your personal taste I suppose:
> Ground Zero (already mentioned by someone), P.O.N., Altered States, etc.
> There's even a Ruins cd (Early Works) that features the saxophone of Zorn
> on several tracks.
>
> ...
> it seems like there's a bunch of jazz/grind outfits, and some
> jazz/ambient/noise ones (Borbetomagus and Dislocation have been mentioned -
> and Dislocation does remind me a bit of some of Painkiller's _Execution
> Ground_), but not much grind/ambient or all threee...
>
>   well, the last Burzum album could be considered grind/ambient,
>                                                            but not jazz.

 Yeah, but the guy (count grishnak) is a self admitted Fascist scumbag.
Thats the problem with Black Metal, I never buy any of it because I am
unwilling to accidently support nazi bullshit. But the music that I have
heard is pretty good.

 Oh yeah, anyone interested in experimental grind should check out the
Human Remains cdep - Using Sickness As A Hero - on Relapse. Its got almost
perfect songwriting, with incredible musicianship from the players. seven
string guitars, and the fastest and most skilled drummer in the grind
scene today. Its got some really nuts stuff on it, absolutely the best
thing Relapse has ever released.

 Oh yeah, both Agathocles (from Belgium) and Cripple Bastards (from Italy)
are planning USA tours soon. If anyone is interested, I will keep you
posted.

 anthony

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Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 19:14:20 -0500 (EST)
From: "Gary M. Gettier" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Painkiller / Grindcore

Speaking of Painkiller, I've got some extra copies of their stuff for
trade. Let me know if you've got some good trades:

Painkiller - Guts Of A Virgin (Censored cover - I finally found the Toy
                                                Factory one!)
Painkiller - Buried Secrets

Other stuff -
Mystic Fugu Orchestra (Zorn/Eye) - Zohar
Mr Bungle - Mr Bungle     (extra copy)
Mr Bungle - Disco Volante (extra copy)

I'd like to get the 3 CD _Execution Ground_ and one of the Masadas.
I've got a list of metal stuff a mile long I'd like to get. Email me for a
list.

p.s. Hello to Chanel and Mike, miss ya on the metal list!


Gary

- ------------------------------+----------------------------------------
Gary M. Gettier - [e-mail] | "Think for yourself and feel the walls
                              |  become sand beneath your feet."
! Don't Buy CDs at Wal-Mart ! |  - Queensryche

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Date: Fri, 21 Mar 97 12:43:30 -0500
From: Peter Risser <[e-mail]>
Subject: Baron Crackshot

- -- [ From: Peter Risser * EMC.Ver #2.5.03 ] --

I went to purchase Joey Baron's Crackshot album and found out it was on
Avant for 22 bucks.  Is there a non-import version of this album out?  Like,
say, Tzadik or something?  Anyone?

Second, any news on the 3CD release of Painkiller's Execution Ground on
Tzadik?
- --
=====================
Group 42, Inc.
www.group42.com
[phone]
=====================

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Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 11:21:33 GMT0BST
From: DR S WILKIE <[e-mail]>
Subject: uk tours

for those in the UK...tim berne is over in may (london, purcell room
24th...birmingham,custard factory 30 and 31st )..also dave douglas is
at the custard factory, 26 april - see you there!

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Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 14:47:01 -0500 (EST)
From: Jason Caulfield Bivins <[e-mail]>
Subject: new Tzadiks

Has anyone checked out the new Frith and Sharp discs on Tzadik? I imagine
someone must have done so -- I only had the cash for two of the recent
(and huge) batch, and I chose "Filmworks III" and the Ribot. I haven't
really absorbed either of them fully, but I'm really impressed with
Ribot's record so far. It's leagues better than "Shrek" (to my ears), and
it really helps to see where he's coming from insofar as he successfully
synthesizes a number of his influences. As if the Ayler covers on
previous discs weren't hint enough, his approach really seems to owe
quite a bit to Ayler -- in his dismantling of phrases, his off-center
articulation, etc.
By the way, for those interested there are 3 intriguing releases next month:
    Michael Formanek's "Nature of the Beast"
    Dave Douglas' Tiny Bell Trio "Live in Europe"
    Bill Frisell "Nashville" (!!)

Jason Bivins

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Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 17:11:10 -0500 (EST)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Ellery Eskelin Trio(w/Andrea Parkins & Jim Black)@ICA, Boston

SUNDAY, APRIL 13th, 8 PM
@ the Institute for Contemporary Art
955 Boylston Street, Boston, MA 02115
The Boston Creative Music Alliance Presents:

             tenor saxophonist & composer
ELLERY ESKELIN
with
Andrea Parkins (accordian and sampler)
and
Jim Black (drums)

"...Eskelin continues to be the most inventive American tenor player in
creative music..."
(Down Beat, November 1996)

"...One of the most stimulating bands of the decade...Jazz Trash remains one
of the unsung treasures of recent creative music troves."
(John Corbett)

Tickets go on sale Friday, March 28th
@ Twisted Village Records
(12 Elliott Street-near Harvard Square,
Cambridge, MA 02138
ph [phone] fax [phone])

Stay Tuned:
for more info regarding BCMA's May 21st production of
Charlie Kolhase Quintet @ The ICA!

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Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 16:39:18 -0800
From: [e-mail] (Dave Trenkel)
Subject: Re: new Tzadiks

Jason Bivins writes:
>Has anyone checked out the new Frith and Sharp discs on Tzadik? I imagine
>someone must have done so -- I only had the cash for two of the recent

I got them both yesterday, I too only had cash for 2. They're both great,
IMHO. The Sharp disc is probably the biggest surprise, it has some of the
most conventionally beautiful music I've heard him do. One piece, a solo on
what I'm guessing is one of his stringed homemades played with e-bow,
sounds a lot like traditional Korean music. Another piece is a simple, John
Fahey-esque slide blues.

The Frith disc is also very nice, some pieces harken back to his Henry
Cow/European folk phases, which I quite enjoy, others are more
improv/texture oriented. One piece, a duet with organist Willy Webster,
goes on a bit too long, but I like the rest of the disc quite a bit.



________________________________________________________
Dave Trenkel, NEW EMAIL ADDRESS: [e-mail]
self promotional web-site: http://www.peak.org/~improv/
"A squid eating dough in a polyethelene bag is fast
and bulbous, got me?"
                                     -Captain Beefheart
________________________________________________________

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Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 12:25:19 -0800
From: hywel davies <[e-mail]>
Subject: masada 4

i've stopped caring whether you believe me or not, but masada 4(diw 923)
is out in the UK, i have it - it exists! (full price though...)

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Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 09:54:10 -0500
From: Tom Pratt <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: masada 4

hywel davies wrote:
>
> i've stopped caring whether you believe me or not, but masada 4(diw 923)
> is out in the UK, i have it - it exists! (full price though...)

Yes it does.  I'm getting a tape of it from someone in Tokyo.

            -Tom Pratt

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Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 09:28:35 -0800
From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: masada 4

On Sat, 22 Mar 1997 12:25:19 -0800  hywel davies wrote:
>
> i've stopped caring whether you believe me or not, but masada 4(diw 923)
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Why are you saying that? There have been so many rumors about this
record that we became a little bit suspicious. Even an add in a
respected magazine was not enough :-).

> is out in the UK, i have it - it exists! (full price though...)

That's an excellent news!

    Patrice.

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Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 09:31:14 -0800
From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: masada 4

On Sat, 22 Mar 1997 09:28:35 -0800  "Patrice L. Roussel" wrote:
>
>
> On Sat, 22 Mar 1997 12:25:19 -0800  hywel davies wrote:
> >
> > i've stopped caring whether you believe me or not, but masada 4(diw 923)
>     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> Why are you saying that? There have been so many rumors about this
> record that we became a little bit suspicious. Even an add in a
> respected magazine was not enough :-).
>
> > is out in the UK, i have it - it exists! (full price though...)
>
> That's an excellent news!

Also, it seems that the catalog number is different.

    Patrice.

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Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 12:20:04 -0800 (PST)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: [none]

have filmworks 3 & 4 been released yet?  I heard they were out, but I
wanted to make sure.
j

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Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 10:53:08 +0800
From: Jan-Wen Lu <[e-mail]>
Subject: New CD on Avant

Does anyone have idea with the latest CD on Avant, Alva-"Fair-Haired
Guillotine"(AVAN-072, released on Feb. 21)? A female trio from Florida.
They use violin, saxophone and piano.

Concerning the Masada 4 CD on DIW. It was released on Feb. 21, too. It costs
1800 Japanese Yen. Not full price.

- --
Jan-Wen Lu  E-Mail address: [e-mail]

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Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 14:47:36 +0100 (MET)
From: Torsten Nielsen <[e-mail]>
Subject: Concerts in London

Does anybody know of any interesting concerts in London, April 4 or 5?

Thanks,

Jonas

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Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 15:50:08 +0100 (MET)
From: Torsten Nielsen <[e-mail]>
Subject: Concerts in London

Does anybody know of any interesting concerts in London, April 4 or 5?

Thanks,

Jonas


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Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 07:25:33 -0500
From: Tom Pratt <[e-mail]>
Subject: DAT traders

Are there any DAT traders out there who trade Jazz/Avant stuff? PLEASE
CONTACT ME!


                -Tom Pratt

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Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 08:35:09 -0600
From: [e-mail] (Eric Schneider)
Subject: filmworks

Could anyone provide general impressions and/or ratings of each one of
Zorn's Filmworks collections?  I'm familiar with a lot of Zorn's projects
and compositions, but I have yet to approach this series.  Any pointers
would be helpful.  Thanks.

- - Eric

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Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 08:47:21 +0100
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: filmworks

> Could anyone provide general impressions and/or ratings of each one of
> Zorn's Filmworks collections?  I'm familiar with a lot of Zorn's projects
> and compositions, but I have yet to approach this series.  Any pointers
> would be helpful.  Thanks.

Although I like all or most of the Filmworks series, I must say that I like
the recently released fourth instalment the best. It features some of Zorn's
best work, not only in the Filmworks series, but on the whole.
There are five tracks, each with a very different character and feel.
The first track, Pueblo (9:04), is a track that prominently features guitarists
Marc Ribot and Robert Quine. It is very laid back, sort of a Mesoamerican
atmosphere. It reminds me of the song the band is playing during Santanico
Demonia's dance in From Dusk Till Dawn. The second track, Elegant Spanking
(14:22) is a suite culled from a 27 minute composition of the same name. The
line-up and instrumentation for this one is the same as on Zorn's masterpiece
Redbird. The feeling is the same, too. Reminds me of the softer parts of Grand
Guignol. I can't relate the music to the S/M scenes depicted in the booklet,
however, since there is absolutely no harshness in the piece.
The third track is a wicked sound design with harsh, almost Merzbow-like parts
interrupting dark ambient sounds that once again remind me of Grand Guignol.
The fourth piece is a 6:19 piece for solo piano. Well-crafted, and very
beautiful. The fifth piece, Lot Of Fun For The Evil One (17:48), has Zorn
playing keyboards over some strange ethnic music and voice samples from
Aleister Crowley talking in some kind of esoteric language.

The atmosphere of the individual pieces and the album as a whole is such that
I would say this is one of my favorite Zorn albums. To give you an indication,
my other favorites are Redbird, Grand Guignol, and The Big Gundown.

I would also recommend Filmworks III, it has some very good Film Noir Masada
tracks, as well as great improvisations between Marc Ribot and Zorn.

Frankco.

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Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 12:19:56 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Steve Smith)
Subject: New Zorn events at the Knit

Hi all -

Mark your calendars for these upcoming Zorn events:

Saturday March 29 - John Zorn & Susie Ibarra Duo, Cyro Baptista's Testa de
Farinha

Sunday March 30 - The Flux String Quartet plays Zorn ("Cat O'Nine Tails"),
Ornette Coleman ("Poets and Writers"), Gyorgy Ligeti (String Quartet No. 2)
and Michael Ratte ("Sept B").

Tuesday May 13 - John Zorn and Eugene Chadbourne, Roger Turner and Phil
Minton, and Eugene Chadbourne solo

Thursday May 16-Sunday May 18 - Bar Kokhba (2 shows nightly)

Tuesday May 20 - Larry Ochs, John Zorn and Dave Douglas

Remember, those of you not in New York can at least hear and "see" these
shows live on the internet on our website, free of charge naturally.

Steve Smith
[e-mail]
http://www.knittingfactory.com

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Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 10:52:28 -0800
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: filmworks... Ikue Mori

Thanks to Frankco for the great rundown on Film Works IV, which made it
sound like III would be more my speed (being less of a Grand Guignol fan
myself, and more of a Ribot/Masada fan, but never mind that).

>The first track, Pueblo (9:04), is a track that prominently features guitarists
>Marc Ribot and Robert Quine. It is very laid back, sort of a Mesoamerican
>atmosphere. It reminds me of the song the band is playing during Santanico
>Demonia's dance in From Dusk Till Dawn.

Don't know about the film in question, but this description sounds similar
to Ikue Mori's "Painted Desert" which I like like a lot.  Said record also
features Ribot and Quine, and might be described as somewhat slowed down,
spaced out spaghetti western music, though it does pick up (as you would
expect) on tracks with titles like "Desperado".  Reminds me a bit of early
Durutti Column as well, if that rings bells for anyone.

Alexander

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Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 14:52:54 -0500 (EST)
From: "Yeah-shure, Nah...er...ve'-so'n" <[e-mail]>
Subject: cyro

What does Cyro Baptista do when not playing on John Zorn albums?  COuld
someone tell me about his other projects, and give reviews or general
impressions?

thanks,
    jascha

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Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 19:33:59 +0000
From: Scott Russell <[e-mail]>
Subject: Virus

Dear all


The following message has been passed to me via the internet. It
originally
came from IBM. Please read this message.

If anyone, receives mail entitled: PENPAL GREETINGS! please delete it
WITHOUT reading it!!  This is a warning for all internet users.  There
is
a dangerous virus propagating across the Internet through an e-mail
message entitled "PENPAL GREETINGS"!  DO NOT DOWNLOAD ANY MESSAGE
ENTITLED
"PENPAL GREETINGS"!!  This message appears to be a friendly letter
asking
you if you are interested in a penpal, but by the time you read this
letter, it is too late.  The "trojan horse" virus will have already
infected the boot sector of your hard drive, destroying all of the
data
present.  It is a self-replicating virus, and once the message is
read,
it will AUTOMATICALLY forward itself to anyone who's e-mail address is
present in YOUR mailbox!  This virus will DESTROY your hard drive, and
holds the potential to DESTROY the hard drive of anyone whose mail is
in
your in box, and who's mail is in their in box and so on.  If this
virus
keeps getting passed, it has the potentioal to do a gread deal of
DAMAGE
to computer networks worldwide!!!  Please, delete the message entitled
"PENPAL GREETINGS!" as soon as you see it!  And pass this message
along
to all of your friends, relatives and the other readers of the
newsgroups
and
mailing lists which you are on so that they are not hurt by this
dangerous
virus!!!  Please pass this along to everyone you know so this can be
stopped.

Hope none of you encounter this.

Scott Russell.

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 15:32:54 -0500 (EST)
From: Jim McLoughlin <[e-mail]>
Subject: virus stuff

    Hi

    The penpal greetings virus is a hoax.  If you ever get mailed
virus messages, it is worth checking their valididty at the following
site before propogating these rumors:

    www.symantec.com/avcenter/hoax.html

    They maintain a list of virus hoaxes, which includes the PENPAL
virus.  There are no viruses that are able to do the damage described in
that message.

    Sorry for lack of zorn/music related content.
- --



    Jim McLoughlin
    [e-mail]


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Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 13:57:53 -0800
From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: TRADITIONS IN EAST ASIAN BAR BANDS available?

    I don't know about anywhere else, but TIEABB is not
available in Portland (OR). Was anybody successful to get it?

    Patrice.

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Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 17:41:20 -0500 (EST)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Dim Sum Clip Job (on "Avant") appear with Joe Maneri,Prelapse,Saturnalia

Wednesday, April 9th
@ The Middle East, Upstairs
472 Massachusetts Ave.
Cambridge, MA 02139
[phone]
 Unsound Music Productions presents:

Avant Recording Artists
Dim Sum Clip Job

with
Joe Maneri (solo),

Prelapse
(featuring original compositions and the music of John Zorn's Naked City)


and
Jonathan LaMaster's Saturnalia

Hailing from NYC, Dim Sum Clip Job inhabit a soundscape somewhere between
Godzilla movies, the noise stylings and stage energy of The Boredoms, and the
groove of a Hammond B3...without the B3!
The band features Laura Cromwell on drums (Laura has also played with Bowery
Electric, Cibo Mato, Buffalo Daughter, No Safety, and in performances of the
John Zorn games "Cobra" and "Xeu Feng"), Gordon Knauer on alto saxophone
(Gordon has played with Anthony Coleman and members of Soul Coughing), Curtis
Hasselbring on guitar (Curtis is also a jazz trombonist and has worked with
Benny Carter), and Jay Brown on bass.

     "Dim Sum Clip Job do set a standard for any ragged chord-crush
instrumental ensemble to come...
      If you shotgun tripple espressos in a cold shower when you woke up,
would you ever go back to
      sleep again?"  (Jonathan Dixon, Soundviews)

Since there are four acts on the bill, the show will start promptly at 9pm wit
h the following order:

9pm:   Joe Maneri
9:45:   Saturnalia
10:30:  Dim Sum Clip Job
11:45:  Prelapse

ALSO,
Come see Saturnalia on Saturday, April 5th appearing at a great loft party
with TWO stages in Chinatown (115 Kingston Street, Boston) at 6 pm on the
nose.  Also appearing (on the main stage) will be Cul de Sac, Bardo Pond,
Primordial Undermind, Juneau, Lockroove Lullaby, Abunai, and Christmas Ape.
 On the side stage will be The Harvard Project for New Music folks, and
Lothars (theremin ensemble who will be the side stage "house band".)
 BYOWhatever!
Contact Ditko Universe Productions @ 617-254-4151 for info.
webinfo: http://www.tiac.net/users/cutter

Jonathan LaMaster
Unsound Music Productions

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