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yello-digest         Wednesday, June 21 2000         Volume 02 : Number 195




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Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 07:46:47 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (yello) new kid on the block

William Orbit would be the one to listen to.

Julz


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Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 09:34:53 +1000
From: Chris Norton <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) [Partly off topic] Cabaret Voltaire

Would a Yello fan like Cabaret Voltaire?  Well, this one does!  But they
would not be for everyone and are quite different to Yello.  I hope people
don't mind but I'd like to take some time to give people an insight into
their music.  Sorry if this seems a bit of a late response but I get the
digest version of the list...

With the possible exception of "Warm" (a track which opens with a rhythm
containing samples of two people making love) their music is, as Andy says,
quite bleak and dark and not at all light and quirky like Yello's.
However, they are widely recognised, along with the likes of Throbbing
Gristle and 23 Skidoo, as innovative pioneers of early industrial music,
although their more recent work has become fairly derivative and
uninteresting.  Repetitive imagery through their music, videos and lyrics
is of repressive control, whether it be by police, religion, or even
surgery or emotional control.  A long way from Yello's common themes of
driving, love, and people who love driving. (Joke!)

There are several phases of Cabaret Voltaire's music:

1974-early 80's - 'true' industrial
Albums: 1974-79; Mix-Up; Voice of America; Live at the YMCA; Drain Train:
Red Mecca; The Living Legends; Johnny Yesno; 2x45; Hai
Also: Listen Up With Cabaret Voltaire

At this stage the band comprised Richard H Kirk, Stephen Mallinder and
Chris Watson.  As one of the first industrial bands, the Cabs attempted to
imitate the grinding machinery, shrill whistles and clunking rhythms of the
industry of North England.  Their equipment was pretty primitive, and
sounds it.  Lots of hollow, tinny and shrill sounds, radio feedback, and
sampled pieces of spoken word often used in preference to lyrics.  With
2x45, they started moving to a more accessible sound, with groovier
rhythms.  This album features one of my fave tracks, "Breathe Deep", with a
military rhythm overlaid by a funky bassline, fragile percussion and watery
samples with a heavily distorted vocal.  'Hai' is a live album recorded in
Japan - Chris Watson isn't around, and although the tracks played are
generally from other albums around this period you can see the beginnings
of their next period coming through with a cooler, more sophisticated feel.
 'Johnny Yesno' is a soundtrack for a low-budget film about a drug addict,
and 'Listen Up With...' is a more recent release of rare tracks that mostly
come from this period plus a few from the mid-80s.

Mid 80's - Industrial funk
Albums: Crackdown; Drinking Gasoline; The Covenant, the Sword and the Arm
of the Lord; Micro-Phonies; Code
Video: Gasoline in your Eye
Also: Radiation (aka Sex, Money, Freaks); Technology.

This is the most accessible period.  Chris Watson left the band, and Kirk
and Mallinder started laying down groovy rhythms overlaid by staccato
basslines, jagged guitars, sax and the CV trademark percussive handclaps.
Mallinder lays down vocals with strictly metred lyrics that complement the
music well, becoming another rhythm line in themselves.  Although the music
is markedly different, there are in my view a number of parallels that
could be drawn with Yello, and Andy is right to suggest that this would be
a good starting point for Yello fans interested in sampling a bit of this
band.
In my view the best work the Cabs did is the trio of the 4-track EP
'Drinking Gasoline', the subsequent album 'The Covenant, the Sword and the
Arm of the Lord' and the hour-long video 'Gasoline in your Eye' which
features videos for the four DG tracks, some from CSAL, and some other
otherwise unavailable tracks.  All feature lush industrial funk
instrumentation, syncopated rhythms and in some cases are actually
danceable, if you don't mind abruptly stopping and starting from time to
time (I challenge you to dance to 'Big Funk' - difficult but quite an
experience!).  The video footage is generally pretty dark - very low budget
and experimental, but in my view far more effective than the light fluff
Yello puts out as videos.  Reinforcing the images of decay and control,
they feature looped, repetitive footage of dark rooms and corridors,
derilict buildings, winding staircases, opening doors, police marches,
running feet, and even electro-shock therapy.  They complement the music
very well, showcasing a world of nightmares.  Pretty heavy stuff, which
gives you a different perspective on the albums.  Note that the CD
rerelease of CSAL contains 2 of the 4 tracks from Drinking Gasoline.
'Code' was produced by Adrian Sherwood of On-U Sound fame, and is the most
'pop'-like of the albums.  This period was revisited by the Cabs in the
early '90s, when they put out 'Technology', a series of more accessible
dancy remixes of work from this time (in my view, none as good as the
originals) and the late '90s with the release of 'Radiation' containing
some live BBC recordings from this time.

Late '80s - '90s - Bleep Music
Albums include Groovy, Laid Back and Nasty; Colours; Percussive Force; The
Conversation

For me, the wheels started falling off the Cabs wagon in this period and I
lost interest in them.  Trying to embrace the growing dance scene, Kirk
(the main muso) went to a sort of light techno that he called "Bleep
Music".  When the lighter, more ambient bleeps and passive synth sounds
replaced the driving rhythms of the early '80s, the passion went out of the
music for me.  I think Yello fans, used to more complex rhythms and unusual
sounds, would probably find anything from this period too bland for their
tastes.

The Cabs are together no more, as Mallinder has moved to Perth, Australia
while Kirk remains in England, working on a number of generally one-man
projects under a number of different names.

Hope this is of use to some people; like Yello, CV have brought me many
happy times and if this post helps just one person discover a band they
find interesting I think it's been worth it.

Chris


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Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 19:54:53 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (yello) [Partly off topic] Cabaret Voltaire

In a message dated 6/13/00 7:38:20 PM, [e-mail] writes:

<< For me, the wheels started falling off the Cabs wagon in this period and I
lost interest in them.  Trying to embrace the growing dance scene, Kirk
(the main muso) went to a sort of light techno that he called "Bleep
Music".  When the lighter, more ambient bleeps and passive synth sounds
replaced the driving rhythms of the early '80s, the passion went out of the
music for me.  I think Yello fans, used to more complex rhythms and unusual
sounds, would probably find anything from this period too bland for their
tastes. >>

See I tend to differ. In a very noisy kind of way the 80s Cabaret v did
resemble Yello just a little. Being from the same era of older Yello Probably
the equipment made things sound similar more the anything (I don't think
there was that much to choose from).
In my opinion the albums from CODE on is my favorite work. Since then Richard
H Kirk has put out tuns of work, I think I have about 15 or so albums since
then. Richard puts out at least 2 albums a year! Hard to keep up with when he
almost every time its under an another name(almost). The CD store that is
always on top of it, Richard Kirk and other great unheard music is
www.ab-cd.com . A great place to find Richard's music. So if you like dub
site elector funk Richard's stuff is for me and you.

Love you all

Julz


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Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 18:19:05 -0700
From: Brian Willoughby <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (yello) [Partly off topic] Cabaret Voltaire

At the risk of continuing this non-Yello topic too far...

[  From: Chris Norton <[e-mail]>

Thanks for the summary of Cabaret Voltaire.  There was a lot I didn't know
about them.  I, too, find Cabaret Voltaire to be interesting music in many of
the same ways that Yello are interesting: complex layers of sounds and catchy
rhythms.

[  Late '80s - '90s - Bleep Music
[  Albums include Groovy, Laid Back and Nasty; Colours; Percussive
[  Force; The Conversation

In my opinion, you left out the top two albums from this period: Plasticity
and International Language.  Actually, International Language and The
Conversation may be tied for second place, but Plasticity is certainly one of
my favorites.

[  For me, the wheels started falling off the Cabs wagon in this
[  period and I lost interest in them.  Trying to embrace the growing
[  dance scene, Kirk (the main muso) went to a sort of light techno
[  that he called "Bleep Music".  When the lighter, more ambient
[  bleeps and passive synth sounds replaced the driving rhythms of
[  the early '80s, the passion went out of the music for me.  I think
[  Yello fans, used to more complex rhythms and unusual sounds, would
[  probably find anything from this period too bland for their
[  tastes.

I think there are plenty of interesting rhythms on Plasticity and
International Language, and there is certainly enough subsonic bass to kill
most systems that aren't techno ready.  For me, both Yello and Cabaret Voltaire
have tunes which sometimes seem like they belong on a soundtrack, and
sometimes seem like they belong on the dancefloor, or both.  The new stuff
probably isn't as dark as the older, but there is still a trippy, drugged out
feel to their music which isn't anything like Yello.

[  The Cabs are together no more, as Mallinder has moved to Perth,
[  Australia while Kirk remains in England, working on a number of
[  generally one-man projects under a number of different names.

Kirk has releases as Sandoz, Electronic Eye, himself, Agents with false
memories, and others (Alphaphone? .. or is that a label?).

Brian Willoughby


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Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 15:37:52 +0200
From: Jast <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (yello) new kid on the block

Hi JULZMON,

> William Orbit would be the one to listen to.

 While William Orbit is surely nice, it doesn't quite get at me like Yello
 does. The sounds don't have that torso-touching quality, to put it
 this way.

 However, I was recently given a tip on Napster: Art of Noise.
 After listening to some pieces, I'd say the feeling is of a similar
 quality as Yello. Possibly not with the same perfection, but the effect
 goes in that way.

 Another great artist to check out is myth. I know of him from the game
 creation system scene around MZX/ZZT (if that tells you anything) He
 tracks very detailed pieces. Not at all Yello style, but rather quiet and
 calm, usually. You can download several of his pieces here:
  http://www.traxinspace.com/Artists/MusicDirectory.asp?ArtistID=774

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Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 08:56:19 -0700 (PDT)
From: Farshid Arjomandi <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) Cabaret Voltaire

Hi!

I just bought the rather recently released CD: "BBC recordings 1984-1986"
and it seems to be really cool. (This was released in 1998)

Best,
F.A.



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Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 04:10:14 +0200
From: Jast <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) Yello IRC channel

Hi all,

 if anyone is interested, there's a #Yello IRC channel on Austnet. It's not
 yet populated, but it'd be great if anyone came, to chat about Yello or
 other random issues interesting to Yello fans ;-)

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Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 17:46:34 -0700
From: Sheldon Stern <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (yello) Yello IRC channel

Jast wrote:

> Hi all,
>
>  if anyone is interested, there's a #Yello IRC channel on Austnet. It's not
>  yet populated, but it'd be great if anyone came, to chat about Yello or
>  other random issues interesting to Yello fans ;-)

Thanks Jast, great to know that.

Sheldon




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Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 07:38:33 +1000
From: "Simon McBurney" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (yello) new kid on the block

I've been a big fan of the Art Of Noise for a long time now.
In the 80's they were more of a dance, sometimes ambient style. Some very
alternative.
The unfortunately they broke up early 90's but they have got together again
and made a new album called "the Seduction of Cluade Debussy".
 This album just oozes class.
 If ya want a listen, e-mail me directly. ( [e-mail] )


Simon McBurney
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Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 05:11:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: julian gardner <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) Caberet Voltaire

I met Yello when they did the Venasage in the late
80's. At the show was Bal from Caberet Voltaire and we
talked for a few hours about loads of shit, but he did
say that early yello was a major source influence in
his music

joolz
ps. I have a picture of Bal and my ex-girfriend and a
bloody good photo of Dieter and Boris coming out of
the toilet

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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 20:29:17 +1000
From: Shaun Turner <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) Yello IRC Chan

Greetings to all.

after some discussion on the matter with a number of people, and some
poking & prodding, I would like to officially bring to the attention
of the list that I have created (some time ago) a chat channel on the
austnet IRC network devoted to Yello.

The channel is quite small at present, but with support, that
hopefully will change.=20

given the time differences around the world, with some on the list in
the US, some in europe & some in Australasia picking a time good for
everyone is hard, so whenever you can just pop in & spread the word we
all know about how good Yello is. My handle is Galron, and am often in
from 1030gmt until 1230gmt.

The Channel is #Yello

Come & spread the word.





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