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Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 12:24:44 +0000
From: Nathan Lloyd <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (yello) The new version of "To the s

[Nathan Lloyd]  Hats off to Daniel!

Very witty and very ironic=2E  Talented? Puff Daddy? Will Smith?

They both have about as much combined talent as Boris has in one strand  =20
of his moustache=2E

Thank god neither of them had nothing to do with 'Hands On=2E=2E=2E', can y=
ou  =20
imagine that?

We would have 'Tied Up with my ho=2E=2E=2E=2E' and 'Blazing Uzi'

Nat
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Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 07:59:45 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Bruce Dawson)
Subject: (yello) Ages

Mine is March, 1953


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Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 00:05:09 +0100
From: "Daniel Svensson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) Ages

Mine is:

december -79
I was born on the last day of the seventies!
Beat that!!!!!!!!!!!!

Daniel



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Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 09:53:18 +0000
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (yello) Ages

I was actually born in the early 1992.  I am in fact six!!!

Beat that.

James




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Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 10:08:20 +0000
From: Nathan Lloyd <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (yello) Ages

[Nathan Lloyd]  Mine is:

May 1973

And that was the year after 1972, fantastic!

Nat   =20



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Date: Tue, 8 Dec 98 22:07:29 +1100
From: Mark Pulley <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (yello) Eccentrix

>Subject:     (yello) Eccentrix
>Sent:        7/12/98 8:26 PM
>Received:    8/12/98 9:55 PM
>From:        Henrik "Betn=C8r", [e-mail]
>To:          Yello, [e-mail]
>
>> Is anyone particularly offended by the use of the
>> title 'Eccentrix?'
>I don't find the name "Eccentrix" negative or offensive. Calling
>(Is "Essential" a better name? I
>mean, not even us on the list could probably agree on which tracks are
>the most essential...)

...or which tracks form the 'essence' of Yello...

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Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 17:25:08 +0300
From: "Olga Khomuk" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) =?iso-8859-1?B?zvLi5fI6ICh5ZWxsbykgQWdlcw==?=

>I was actually born in the early 1992.  I am in fact six!!!

It's not incredible! For example, I was actually born in May 1995.
Who's younger here? :)

Olga

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have no friends. Can you bald fat old fool help me?!"



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Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 12:15:15 +0100
From: "Mathias af Jochnick" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (yello) Ages

I won't be born until the year 2067. But I have come back in time to kill
Aaron Carter, to prevent him from dominating
the future charts with his lame music.

;)

/Mathias af Jochnick



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Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 18:10:33 +0200
From: Michael Weintroub <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) Rubber, Lubber, Blubber

Hello Yello Freaks,

Daniel tried to explain by posting:
>>The word lubber is a word I learn't playing Leisure Suit Larry.
>>I think it's a mix of the word lubricated and rubber.
>>I could also be a mix of latex and rubber, I don't know!

Ok Daniel, relax and pull yourself together.
What the hell is Leisure Suit Larry? And if lubber is a mix of
latex and rubber - what on earth was dancing in that MTV video?
(I'm sure we will get there eventually!)

And this remix of To The Sea by Puff Daddy and Will Smith.
Is this on the level? If so, it is yet another example of
stealing other artists' talent to make a quick buck. It really
pisses me off! But then the copyright must have been sold to
allow it anyway. You see - money, money, money!

And FG. I was born in '49! Sorry Gary, the prize is mine (so far).

Move.....Dance......Be Born (before 1949?)
Mike (the old fart who is dreading next year!!!!)


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Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 03:21:39 +0100
From: "Daniel Svensson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: SV: (yello) Rubber, Lubber, Blubber

Hi!

The dancing object is meant by the gods to remain a mystery. A divine
intergalactic mystery, evolving from the "Big Bang" (far ago).

Regarding the mix of "To the sea" don=B4t take it so serious man. I thoug=
ht
you should understand my sarcasm while telling you folks about the very
talented Puff Daddy. But of course Mya is very cute. Maybe we can look
forward to some Yello videos featuring Mya.





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Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 22:27:17 +0100
From: "Jonas Warstad" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) New mailing list

Hi all! I've started a new Yello mailing list, using the excellent =
service offered by OneList (www.onelist.com).=20
I feel there's a need for a new list: for the "busy" fans who don't have =
time to read lots of more or less relevant postings, but who still want =
to stay in touch with other Yello fans and read news whenever there are =
any. One advantage is that I get information directly from Yello Office, =
and I can also answer most questions.=20

I don't say that one list is better than the other, it's just that =
different people have different needs.

If you want to join my new and more "serious" list, please go to my main =
Yello page at:
http://www.algonet.se/~jonwar/yello.html

It only takes a few minutes to register at OneList, but if you're =
certain
that you want to join and don't have the time to register, then please
just send me an email with "join Yello" as the subject, and your email
address followed by your name (all on one line) in the body of the =
message,
and I'll do a "mass" registering on Sunday. I accept this "quick"
registering until Saturday 12 Dec, 6 pm CET (Central European Time).
After that you will have to register yourself at OneList (which is =
really easy).
Everyone is welcome.

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Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 08:00:19 GMT/BST
From: nic <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (yello) New mailing list

Jonas,

While I applaud much of the important and very valuable work you do for
the fan's of Yello, I question the need for another list.

Does this mean that all fans who regard themselves as serious will be
subscribed to one list only, or the other? Will we all be on both,
getting mixed messages, cross posting, posting replies to the wrong list
(this list is configured reply to sender remember), getting just the same
amout of irrelevant postings that any list will get as natural noise.

Sorry, but I don't advocate it, if this list does 'split' into two, I
will not be able to afford the time to attempt to work out which message
came from which, and who I should reply to. In the shorter term it'll
confuse all and increase the noise (we've not all been on the 'net for 5
years plus), and irritate the hell out of me.

If it happens, I will unsubscribe from this, and not subscribe to any
other. It was suggested on another list  and rejected out of hand, and
the mesage volume constitutes 2-3 _digests_ per day on average.

Other views (flames?) on this welcome, echoed to the list membership
please. The list is the members, not the owners/organizers. This
suggestion alone has already created this, which only mentions "Yello"
twice, and has nothing strictly to do with them.

Regards,

Nic
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Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 09:48:19 GMT
From: "Andy Jackson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (yello) New mailing list


> Other views (flames?) on this welcome, echoed to the list membership
> please. The list is the members, not the owners/organizers. This
> suggestion alone has already created this, which only mentions "Yello"
> twice, and has nothing strictly to do with them.

I agree with Nic - I like the mix of serious and silly and I don't
want another list. If Jonas is lucky enough to get info from the
Yello office why doesn't he continue to post it on here?

I'm all for free enterprise, but there's barely enough traffic
(official or otherwise) to support *one* list, let alone two. Please
reconsider Jonas - it's a mistake - it really is...

Andy Jackson

: a n d r e w * j a c k s o n :
: l i b r a r i a n :
: s c h o o l * o f * n u r s i n g * a n d * m i d w i f e r y :
: u n i v e r s i t y * o f * d u n d e e :
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Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 11:14:01 +0000
From: Nathan Lloyd <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (yello) New mailing list (No no no)

> Other views (flames?) on this welcome, echoed to the list membership
> please=2E The list is the members, not the owners/organizers=2E This
> suggestion alone has already created this, which only mentions "Yello"
> twice, and has nothing strictly to do with them=2E
  =20

> I agree with Nic - I like the mix of serious and silly and I don't
> want another list=2E If Jonas is lucky enough to get info from the
> Yello office why doesn't he continue to post it on here?

I agree with both Nic & Andrew - I enjoy the strange & interesting mix  =20
that we get on the list=2E  A brilliant example was the very funny Puff  =20
Daddy version of 'To The Sea' by Daniel Svensson=2E  Even funnier was when=20=
 =20
some people took him seriously!

There isn't enough traffic to warrant 2 lists at the moment and I for one =20=
=20
could not be bothered with keeping up to date with 2 lists and would  =20
invariably choose one over the other=2E  The list contains die-hard Yello =20=
=20
fanatics with knowledgeable views=2E  Occasionally subjects stray and we  =20
all start talking nonsense, but thats half the enjoyment=2E  And Jonas  =20
please don't set up another list=2E  We all have our various views on the =20=
=20
merits of Yello tracks and albums but few of us have the privilege to get =20=
=20
direct information from Yello themselves=2E

Nat
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Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 08:15:46 -0500
From: "Gene Tsygan" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (yello) New mailing list (No no no)

I agree with Nic, Andrew and Nat.
There is another argument against the new list. Onelist.com site says that
it is sponsored by advertisement. It means that we will receive a piece of
junk mail included with every posting.

Gene

|I agree with both Nic & Andrew - I enjoy the strange & interesting mix
|that we get on the list.  A brilliant example was the very funny Puff
|Daddy version of 'To The Sea' by Daniel Svensson.  Even funnier was when
|some people took him seriously!




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Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 15:39:04 +0200
From: Juhana K Kouhia <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (yello) New mailing list

I understand the second list because particularly Jonas has no time to read
the current "noisy" list. Well, you can have the second list but please post
a copy to here too. Perhaps the postings from the other list could be
automatically forwarded to here too. Perhaps Jonas could put important
info to his Yello pages?

Juhana


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Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 07:28:11 EST
From: [e-mail] (Tom Metro)
Subject: RE: (yello) New mailing list

"Andy Jackson" <[e-mail]> writes:
> I agree with Nic - I like the mix of serious and silly and I don't
> want another list. If Jonas is lucky enough to get info from the
> Yello office why doesn't he continue to post it on here?

I got the impression (though it certainly wasn't explicitly stated
as such) that Jonas list would be primarily a means for him to
distribute news items or announcements on Yello, and not a general
discussion list. If indeed it is an announce only list (probably
moderated to control the quality of posts), and all messages posted
to it are cc'ed to this list (by the list server), then I'd support
the concept as a good idea. (Jonas should also repost newsworthy
items that appear on this list to his list.)

Separate announce lists are a great idea in my opinion, and I wish
more music related lists had such companion lists. I know I'm on
several other music lists where the volume is so high that I tend to
rarely read them (they get automatically filed) and I miss out on
the newsworthy items among the noise.

I know Lazlo (the owner of this list, [e-mail]) has
such announce lists for other lists he runs. Perhaps, if the above
was Jonas' intent, the new list should be created by Lazlo so
subscribers can find both lists in the same place and chose which is
best for them.

 -Tom

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Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 11:28:38 +0100
From: Mathias af Jochnick <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (yello) New mailing list

Nope, I don't see the point with another list either.
/Mathias


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Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 12:20:01 +0100
From: [e-mail]
Subject: RE: (yello) Ages

> I was actually born in the early 1992.  I am in fact six!!!
>
My doughter was born 6 november 1995. Since she can't write to the list she
sometimes tells me what to write insted. If she likes Yello? Just put on any
record with them and she'll start, especially to PU.

;-)

Eric




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Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 12:22:35 +0100
From: [e-mail]
Subject: RE: (yello) Ages

> I won't be born until the year 2067. But I have come back in time to kill
> Aaron Carter, to prevent him from dominating
> the future charts with his lame music.
>
Killing your ancestor won't get you born ;-)




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Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 20:57:04 +0100
From: "Jonas Warstad" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) New List - reply from JW

Nic wrote:
>Does this mean that all fans who regard themselves as serious will be=20
>subscribed to one list only, or the other? Will we all be on both,=20
>getting mixed messages, cross posting, posting replies to the wrong =
list=20
>(this list is configured reply to sender remember), getting just the =
same=20
>amout of irrelevant postings that any list will get as natural noise.

There's no need to confuse it like that. You just pick the list which =
fits you best.
About reply to sender versus list, there is information on my mailing =
lists page about that.

Andy Jackson wrote:

>I agree with Nic - I like the mix of serious and silly and I don't=20
>want another list. If Jonas is lucky enough to get info from the=20
>Yello office why doesn't he continue to post it on here?=20

If you like the mix of "serious and silly" and you don't want another =
list,
then you don't have to do anything. But there're others here who *don't*
like it, or at least don't have the time for it, and the point I was =
making
is that there should also be an alternative for us. Right? I will post =
any
important news to both lists. I'm not talking about "enough traffic to =
warrant
two different lists", that's not the point here.

Gene Tsygan wrote:

>There is another argument against the new list. Onelist.com site says =
that
>it is sponsored by advertisement. It means that we will receive a piece =
of
>junk mail included with every posting.


That's not true, and it's obvious you're not subscribed to any list at =
OneList.
I'm running 12 lists there, and so far that has *never* happened! Don't =
ask me
why, but maybe some of the spam I'm usually getting directed to me =
personally
is from a "customer" of theirs? I don't care.

Tom Metro wrote:
>I got the impression (though it certainly wasn't explicitly stated
>as such) that Jonas list would be primarily a means for him to
>distribute news items or announcements on Yello, and not a general
>discussion list. If indeed it is an announce only list (probably
>moderated to control the quality of posts), and all messages posted
>to it are cc'ed to this list (by the list server), then I'd support
>the concept as a good idea. (Jonas should also repost newsworthy
>items that appear on this list to his list.)

I don't intend it to be a one-way news-list only, although I proposed
this idea while in Zurich. However, I can always modify whenever
I want to, it's a very flexible system. Time will tell what's best. All
messages on my new list will not be automatically forwarded to this
list, only important news (which happen seldom, sadly).

He also wrote:
>I know Lazlo (the owner of this list, [e-mail]) has
>such announce lists for other lists he runs. Perhaps, if the above
>was Jonas' intent, the new list should be created by Lazlo so
>subscribers can find both lists in the same place and chose which is
>best for them.

I describe both lists on my Yello page, and also on the OneList page.
Everyone who searches through the Yello Web Ring will also find this
information. Lazlo's site is not registered there though. And besides
I've long since given up believing that Lazlo would do anything I =
suggest.
No more words.

Best, JW





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Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 15:03:36 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (yello) extra lists

I agree with Nic, Andrew, Nat, and Gene, ANOTHER list will just irritate me. I
subscribe to several lists and get as many as 40 messages a day, and the
potential for another 40 will make me want to sit upon a grassy knoll and
shoot people. Not seriously, though. A website would be more acceptable, as
then I can access the info on my own time. then we could also delve into the
minds of other yello-ites. Unification is better than segregation.

Peace and chicken grease

Corbett


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Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 07:52:31 +0100
From: David John <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) New List

I think we should wait and see how things turns out, before we decides
about the new list.
My guess is that most of the people interrested in joining a Yello
mailinglist are already subscribing to this one, so I don't think it's
going to be like 40 extra messages a day just because there's two lists. As
already said, there's just so much news you can discuss and then that's it.
And when the noise is off, then my guess is that it'll be a relative quiet
list. And that's probably good for those getting loads of messages every
day. (Unlike me, I might add.)
I'm subscribing to both list, but I don't mind the *noise* on this list. I
only think it's spices things up -Making a little Yello-cozyness.
In my mind this is still the main Yello list (in fact I'm working on a
special 'recommendation' for this list, to put on my site, -waving to you
Lazlo :-) ).
My only hope is, that people will keep from crosspostings. Hopefully we all
have enough netiquette to respect, and support the idea of having two lists.
Let's give it a chance.

You have my support, Jonas. And btw, now when you get more time from not
reading *noise*, one can hope that your book will be out sooner :-)

PS
Jonas, don't let James in on your list. He'll ruin it.



David John
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Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 01:52:43 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (yello) ages/extra lists

I honestly thought the list topic made no difference but now that is has
caused me to age another year or so I should respond before I catch '49 & '58.

When one finds his heart filled with the love of Jesus, quite often he wants
others to know of it. This in itself is fine-wonderous.
To go into another's church and invite them to his own...might raise some
eyebrows.

Thank you very much
Fred


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Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 02:04:05 PST
From: "Klas ╓sterberg" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (yello) New mailing list

  Just a little note to the new mailing list discussion,
The situation that appears right now is just what Jonas is talking
about, that this list contains unserious elements. For example, this
discussion about Jonas new list. Correct me if im wrong, but I got
impression that this Yello list is supposed to deal with Yello, and not
a meaningless debate about the use of a new mailinglist.
We live in a democratic society (hopefully), therefore feel free to join
any list that u can get any satisfaction from.
JW┤s list or Lazlo┤s list or any other list!

have fun,
Lament


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Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 15:16:41 +0000
From: Nathan Lloyd <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (yello) New mailing list

  Just a little note to the new mailing list discussion,The situation  =20
that appears right now is just what Jonas is talking
about, that this list contains unserious elements=2E For example, this  =20
discussion about Jonas new list=2E Correct me if im wrong, but I got  =20
impression that this Yello list is supposed to deal with Yello, and not a =20=
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meaningless debate about the use of a new mailinglist=2EWe live in a  =20
democratic society (hopefully), therefore feel free to join any list that =20=
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u can get any satisfaction from=2EJW=85s list or Lazlo=85s list or any othe=
r  =20
list!

have fun,
Lament


[Nathan Lloyd]  Woh!  Steady on there Lament=2E  The point myself and other=
  =20
people on the list were trying to make was that there really isn't the  =20
need or the justification for another list=2E  The fact that we are  =20
discussing the inclusion of another list on this list itself is surely  =20
not a bad thing=2E  We are still discussing Yello however far removed the =20=
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subject matter appears to be=2E  I for one thoroughly enjoy all the  =20
idiosyncrasies of the various personalities we get on the list=2E  Because=20=
 =20
we don't talk about which sample was used on 'Dr Van Steiner' in every  =20
conversation does not mean that we are not serious fans=2E

I thought that the whole idea of email debate and discussion, and forgive =20=
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me if I offend, was that we could enjoy the subject matter we are  =20
discussing and maybe have some light hearted moments in the process=2E  I,=20=
 =20
like many, have not got the time to subscribe to two lists, as I dispatch =20=
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my emails from my office at work and I do unfortunately have other things =20=
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to do=2E

I enjoy discussing the merits of Yello but perhaps unlike Lament there  =20
are other things in life than sitting in a dark room listening to Yello  =20
albums all day=2E  Lament contradicts himself on a couple of occasions=2E =20=
He  =20
states that we shouldn't be discussing the inclusion of a new list when  =20
he is fact doing that very act=2E  He also feels that we live in a  =20
democratic society and that we can say what we want, and yet is telling  =20
us all what subject matters we can and cannot discuss=2E  Lastly he also  =20
signs off by saying 'have fun' when really he is trying to ensure that  =20
fun is outlawed and only allowed in discussion groups about 911 or Steps, =20=
=20
crap basically=2E

There is nothing fundamentally wrong with the list=2E  We do all talk  =20
nonsense from time to time, but Yello do not release an album every week  =20
and there is only so much you can discuss regarding there other work and  =20
previous tunes=2E

I agree the 'list' subject has probably been done to death, rather like  =20
the 'PU' discussion that raged for quite sometime, but we are always  =20
looking for new subject matter and whilst we all are waiting patiently  =20
for the release of Eccentrax, other topics are bound to crop up=2E

Anyway my point is, as long-winded as it may sound, is that by having one =20=
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central discussion group everybody is kept up to date with the latest  =20
news and information on the Swiss duo and we can also air our views and  =20
thoughts on other related subjects=2E  By having 2 lists or more,  =20
information will be missed by fans and thoughts will become saturated=2E

Anyway sorry everybody for bleating on, hope you catch my drift=2E=2E=2E=2E=2E

Nat (a bit harsh that?)


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