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utahoutdoors-digest    Wednesday, February 3 1999    Volume 02 : Number 107




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Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 18:55:52 -0700
From: Lou & Jim Gostlin <[e-mail]>
Subject: [OUTDOORS] to T.L. Phillips

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Hi T.L.!

Arches National Park is my very favorite National Park--and I have been to a
lot of them!
However, there really is not any real good backpacking in that park.  The
longest regular hike is about 7 miles (it IS a great hike, though).  You are
not supposed to camp outside the park campground.  It is a beautiful
campground, but still it is a regular campground, solar power & all. the
arches is only about 4 miles from here.

Canyonlands is very close by & has some great back country.  Canyonlands also
has many arches. My choice backpacking trips would be to Angel Arch, Druid
Arch or to the
"All American Man" (pictograph). You can call 1-800-635-6622 and they will
send you TONS of info on the area.  In addition to that, we have an
information center here in Moab that is really great about helping you plan
your trip.

I just moved here from Columbus, Ohio (GO BUCKS!) last summer.  My daughter &
I (a grad student at O.S.U.) and I back packed to Keet Seel in Navajo National
Monument.  We thought it was great!  Navajo N.M. is in northeast Arizona not
too far from Kayenta on the Navajo reservation (the big rez).

If you go to Zion and want to backpack to avoid the crowds, you would want to
concentrate on the northern section of the park--the Kolob section.  I haven't
been there, but I hear it is nice. "The Narrows" is the most common place to
go on a long hike, but can get pretty crowded.  Due to the danger of "flash
floods" you can not hike the narrows if there is threat of rain because it is
a slot canyon.

Southeast Utah gets my vote.  When we moved here, it is because we'd been to
49 states & southeast Utah is where we liked the best.  I still do.  Many days
I feel like I am living in Mecca.  Are you familiar with Edward Abbey & either
DESERT SOLITAIRE or the MONKEYWRENCH GANG?  This is Abbey country.

Does this help? Moab has a web site, but I am not sure what the address is.  I
think all of the national parks do too.  I can get phone numbers for you if
you'd like. If I can answer any more questions, let me know.  Lou

T.L. Phillips wrote:

> I am a college student from Michigan, and for my spring break I would like
> to goto a national park in Utah. I want to goto a warmer and different
> enviroment than I am use to. I was thinking about Arches and Zion but I am
> not finding much about any lengthy trails. If any one can help me please
> do.
>
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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 12:32:54 -0700 (MST)
From: David Kenison <[e-mail]>
Subject: [OUTDOORS] Coyote Gulch and kayaking Powell

This message bounced... anyone have info on this question?

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Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 08:41:47 -0700
From: Kevin Dickerson <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Coyote Gulch and kayaking Powell

We have a trip planned the end of June that I could use some advice
on.  We are going to hike Coyote Gulch all the way into Lake  Powell.
At Powell, we are going to try and have boats meet us with a kayak for
each of us to paddle back to Bullfrog.
    Anyone have any experience doing something like this that could offer
some advice?  How about anywhere in Utah where we can rent Sea Kayaks
(or any kayaks as far as that's concerned)?
    Thanks,
    Kevin Dickerson    [e-mail]
    Pleasant Grove



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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 13:53:45 -0700
From: Steve Cutler <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [OUTDOORS] Backpacking

T.L.,

My wife and I are natives of Utah and have spent a few spring breaks in
the Arches area.  Moab is a great little tourist town with a miriad of
things to do just a few miles away. They've got great food and gift
shops.

Just outside of Moab is the famed Slickrock bike trail.  We always run
into people not only from all over the country, but also from all over
the world when riding that trail.  It is a beautiful trail unlike any in
the world I am told by many foreigners.  There's a 2-mile practice loop
for the novice biker, or for a great warm up for the big daddy.  Moab
has everything you need to get set up for a good bike ride including
bike rentals, repair gear, maps, and other bike gear.

If you're into climbing there are some good climbs in the area as well.
The soft sandstone is not for the novice, but there are a few low rated
sport climbs, and a great top rope area.  The area has many classic
traditional climbs.  Protection ranges from the very small to the big
dudes. Again Moab has everything you need for climbing too.  There are a
couple of good climbing shops in town where you can stock up on any
extra gear you need, and luckily the price for the local guidebook is
really low (I think it's still only 5-6 dollars)!

Arches National park is about 10 miles out of Moab with great scenery
and some good hiking.  It's not much for the serious backpacker, but it
does provide beautiful scenery unlike anywhere in the world.

Another atraction to the Moab area is the Colorado River.  Depending on
what kind of a budget you are on you may be able to afford a day or two
trip down the river.  We have been down stretches of that river 4 or 5
times and I never get tired of it.  A great company to go with if you
decide to is World Wide River Expeditions.  The owner is a friend of my
Dad's.  His name is Richard Jones.  Not too long ago he built a one man
row boat and set out to row across the ocean.  He's quite the man.

The only downfall with the Moab\Arches area is the crowds during spring
break.  I've never been to Zions over spring break, so I don't know what
kind of crowds you are going to run into, but I do know you will run
into crowds in Moab and Arches.

Hope you have a great stay in Utah.  It's a great state!

Steve Cutler

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From: T.L. Phillips [mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 1999 6:03 PM
To: [e-mail]
Subject: [OUTDOORS] Backpacking


I am a college student from Michigan, and for my spring break I would
like
to goto a national park in Utah. I want to goto a warmer and different
enviroment than I am use to. I was thinking about Arches and Zion but I
am
not finding much about any lengthy trails. If any one can help me please
do.




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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 14:11:31 -0700
From: Jeff Porcaro <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [OUTDOORS] Backpacking

There are some trail descriptions located on the GearReview.com web site in
the destinations area. Some of these descriptions are in the southern Utah
area and are great trails.

The site also has a contest for entering trail or gear descriptions on the
site. The prize is a Eureka! Apollo II internal-frame backpack.

Jeff Porcaro

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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 15:42:28 -0500
From: "Christensen, Robert D" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [OUTDOORS] Coyote Gulch and kayaking Powell

    Kevin:

    I've kayaked on the lake once before in the fall (low boat traffic).
We rented some sea kayaks from the outdoors department/shop at BYU.  They
were a sea kayak design, but the sit on top type, with no spray skirt or
rudder.  However, the hatch could hold a lot of gear, more than a full
backpack load.

    Robert Christensen
    [e-mail]

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> Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 08:41:47 -0700
> From: Kevin Dickerson <[e-mail]>
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> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: Coyote Gulch and kayaking Powell
>
> We have a trip planned the end of June that I could use some advice
> on.  We are going to hike Coyote Gulch all the way into Lake  Powell.
> At Powell, we are going to try and have boats meet us with a kayak for
> each of us to paddle back to Bullfrog.
>     Anyone have any experience doing something like this that could
> offer
> some advice?  How about anywhere in Utah where we can rent Sea Kayaks
> (or any kayaks as far as that's concerned)?
>     Thanks,
>     Kevin Dickerson    [e-mail]
>     Pleasant Grove
>
>
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