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From: owner-utah-firearms-digest@lists.xmission.com (utah-firearms-digest)
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Subject: utah-firearms-digest V2 #187
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utah-firearms-digest Wednesday, April 5 2000 Volume 02 : Number 187
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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 15:38:39 -0700
From: Scott Bergeson <shbergeson@uswest.net>
Subject: Heston sees gun fight as part of a larger PC 'cultural war'
http://www.washtimes.com/national/default-200033023357.htm
March 30, 2000
Heston sees gun fight as part of a larger PC 'cultural war'
By Robert Stacy McCain
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
Defending the right of Americans to own guns is not
"just about guns," but rather is part of a "cultural
war" against political correctness, actor Charlton
Heston said last night.
"What I confronted when I became president of the
[National Rifle Association] is an overwhelming
Orwellian tyranny sweeping this country, a fanatic
fervor of politically correct thought and language,"
Mr. Heston said in a speech at Georgetown University.
The 75-year-old actor, who portrayed Moses in "The
Ten Commandments," said that when he accepted the
presidency of the NRA, he "went straight from Moses
to the devil . . . from celluloid saint to cultural
sinner" according to his critics.
"Get involved with a politically unpopular cause and
you'll quickly find out who your friends are," Mr.
Heston told the audience of more than 700 students
who packed Georgetown's Gaston Hall.
"At first I thought the issue was just about guns,"
he said, adding that he has since learned "that the
gun debate is a lot more complicated."
Having been struck by "the bombshells of the cultural
war," Mr. Heston compared that conflict to the War
Between the States: "Today the battle is for your
hearts and minds, for the freedom to think the way
you choose to think, to follow that moral compass
that points to what's right."
Mr. Heston said his position as NRA president is
based on firm principle.
"I believe very strongly in the Bill of Rights," he
said, "and the Second Amendment provision to keep
and bear arms is one of those rights. . . . Should
law-abiding citizens be able to own them, or should
a Big Brother government say no? Seems simple
enough, right?"
Those who disagree with Mr. Heston were out in force
yesterday at Georgetown, as three Democratic lawmakers
ù Illinois Sen. Richard J. Durbin, Rhode Island Sen.
Jack Reed, and Connecticut Rep. Rosa DeLauro ù spoke
to an anti-gun rally sponsored by the university's
Campus Alliance to End Gun Violence. The alliance
also sponsored a panel discussion on guns yesterday.
Eight television crews were on hand last night for
Mr. Heston's speech, which was sponsored by the
university's Lecture Fund.
Taking questions from students after his speech, Mr.
Heston said he thought Republican candidate George W.
Bush "would be a good president" who would support
the NRA's position on guns.
Emphasizing the importance of this year's election,
Mr. Heston urged students, "Whoever you vote for,
for God's sake vote."
One student prefaced a question by citing a statement
by President Clinton at a news conference yesterday,
prompting Mr. Heston to reply: "I must say, I feel
more comfortable with the opinions of the Founding
Fathers."
In his speech, Mr. Heston urged Georgetown students
to reject political correctness, "a cultural cancer
that is eating away at our society."
"Don't let America's universities serve as incubators
for a rampant epidemic of this new brand of McCarthyism,"
he said.
College students "now appear to be the most socially
conformed and politically silenced generation since
Concord Bridge," he said, referring to the 1775 battle
that opened the American Revolution.
If the Founding Fathers had been "enamored with political
correctness," he said, "we'd still be King George's boys."
All site contents copyright ⌐ 2000 News World Communications, Inc.
- -
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 11:16:37 -0700
From: Scott Bergeson <shbergeson@uswest.net>
Subject: L&J: Help Rep. Hostettler Overturn Clinton And Wesson
- -----
Subject: Help Rep. Hostettler Overturn Clinton And Wesson
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 17:46:54 -0500
From: Gun Owners of America <goamail@gunowners.org>
To: goamail@gunowners.org
Rep. Hostettler needs your help to overturn the Clinton & Wesson
sell-out -- Prospects for passage are good; but your Rep. must
hear from you!
Gun Owners of America E-Mail/FAX Alert
8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102, Springfield, VA 22151
Phone: 703-321-8585 / FAX: 703-321-8408
http://www.gunowners.org
(Wednesday, March 29, 2000) -- Rep. John Hostettler (R-IN) is
leading the charge against the latest unholy alliance to rear its
ugly head. As most activists know, the Clinton administration
struck a deal with Smith & Wesson almost two weeks ago -- an
agreement that not only affects the company itself, but would also
inflict gun control restrictions on private gun buyers and impose
massive red tape on ALL gun sales by retailers that carry S & W
products.
To enforce the Clinton & Wesson deal, an Oversight Commission that
has the force of law will make sure the gun control restrictions
agreed to by S & W are being followed by all dealers doing business
with the company -- restrictions that apply to ALL brands carried by
the dealer, not just the S & W guns that they sell.
But Rep. Hostettler is working to get pro-gun language put in the
budget this year that will put a stop to this insanity. His language
will not only defund the Oversight Commission, it will deny funds
for any future lawsuit by the Clinton administration that would seek
to extort more companies to follow Smith & Wesson's lead.
This Battle Is Definitely Winnable
Two years ago, Senator Bob Smith (R-NH) succeeded in defunding the
FBI's plan to tax gun owners. Smith boldly went to the floor of the
Senate -- where fellow colleagues told him his measure could not
pass. But he ignored the naysayers, forced a vote on his measure,
and accomplished his goal of getting an provision in the budget
withholding funds for an FBI gun tax -- a provision that is still
there to this day.
This budget battle is similar, although it will take a little bit
more work on the part of the grassroots. The House is not like the
Senate; it's not as easy to get amendments put into legislation.
But it can be done!
URGENT ACTION: Please take the time to contact your Representative.
This is super important! If Clinton gets his way and bankrupts the
American firearms industry through lawsuits, how easy will it be for
you to get new firearms? How easy will it be for your children and
grandchildren to buy new firearms in the future? The future of the
Second Amendment is on the line here. Please contact your Rep.
right away!
You can use the text below to fax, email or call your
Representative. Ph) 888-449-3511 (toll-free).
- ----------- Pre-written message ------------
Dear Representative:
Rep. John Hostettler is trying to get a very important amendment
into the Treasury budget this year. In order to get support from
various Representatives, he is circulating a letter addressed to
appropriations subcommittee Chairman Jim Kolbe. This letter asks
Rep. Kolbe to insert language defunding the Oversight Commission
that was created in the recent Clinton & Wesson agreement. This
Commission has the force of law to make sure the gun control
restrictions agreed to by Smith & Wesson are being followed by
anyone who does business with the company.
I hope you will take the time to sign this very important letter
and support his efforts 100 percent!
The recent Clinton & Wesson agreement is disgusting, and it is
completely out of line with what Americans want. A recent Zogby
poll found that 2/3 of the people say it's illegitimate to bring
lawsuits against gun manufacturers or to hold them liable for the
criminal misuse of guns. And despite what the media seems to think,
people don't want more gun control. Zogby also found that only 29
percent of people would be likely to support a candidate that is a
"supporter of stronger gun controls."
The President's recent deal is nothing but an end-run around the
Constitution. Congress has power to enact laws -- not the President
through the extortion of American businesses. Again, I hope you
will sign the Hostettler letter and do everything you can to stop
this back-door attempt at gun control.
I would also request that you speak to Rep. Kolbe personally and ask
him to put the pro-gun language in the budget. Thank you.
Sincerely,
__________________
**************
Cheaper Than Dirt donates a percentage of your total order to GOA if
you use http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/goa.htm to enter their online
store.
**************
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date information, please consider subscribing to the GOA E-Mail
Alert Network directly. There is no cost or obligation, and the
volume of mail is quite low. To subscribe, simply send a message to
goamail@gunowners.org and include the state in which you live, in
either the subject or the body. To unsubscribe, reply to any alert
and ask to be removed.
_______________________________________________
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- -
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 11:16:37 -0700
From: Scott Bergeson <shbergeson@uswest.net>
Subject: L&J: Help Rep. Hostettler Overturn Clinton And Wesson
- -----
Subject: Help Rep. Hostettler Overturn Clinton And Wesson
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 17:46:54 -0500
From: Gun Owners of America <goamail@gunowners.org>
To: goamail@gunowners.org
Rep. Hostettler needs your help to overturn the Clinton & Wesson
sell-out -- Prospects for passage are good; but your Rep. must
hear from you!
Gun Owners of America E-Mail/FAX Alert
8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102, Springfield, VA 22151
Phone: 703-321-8585 / FAX: 703-321-8408
http://www.gunowners.org
(Wednesday, March 29, 2000) -- Rep. John Hostettler (R-IN) is
leading the charge against the latest unholy alliance to rear its
ugly head. As most activists know, the Clinton administration
struck a deal with Smith & Wesson almost two weeks ago -- an
agreement that not only affects the company itself, but would also
inflict gun control restrictions on private gun buyers and impose
massive red tape on ALL gun sales by retailers that carry S & W
products.
To enforce the Clinton & Wesson deal, an Oversight Commission that
has the force of law will make sure the gun control restrictions
agreed to by S & W are being followed by all dealers doing business
with the company -- restrictions that apply to ALL brands carried by
the dealer, not just the S & W guns that they sell.
But Rep. Hostettler is working to get pro-gun language put in the
budget this year that will put a stop to this insanity. His language
will not only defund the Oversight Commission, it will deny funds
for any future lawsuit by the Clinton administration that would seek
to extort more companies to follow Smith & Wesson's lead.
This Battle Is Definitely Winnable
Two years ago, Senator Bob Smith (R-NH) succeeded in defunding the
FBI's plan to tax gun owners. Smith boldly went to the floor of the
Senate -- where fellow colleagues told him his measure could not
pass. But he ignored the naysayers, forced a vote on his measure,
and accomplished his goal of getting an provision in the budget
withholding funds for an FBI gun tax -- a provision that is still
there to this day.
This budget battle is similar, although it will take a little bit
more work on the part of the grassroots. The House is not like the
Senate; it's not as easy to get amendments put into legislation.
But it can be done!
URGENT ACTION: Please take the time to contact your Representative.
This is super important! If Clinton gets his way and bankrupts the
American firearms industry through lawsuits, how easy will it be for
you to get new firearms? How easy will it be for your children and
grandchildren to buy new firearms in the future? The future of the
Second Amendment is on the line here. Please contact your Rep.
right away!
You can use the text below to fax, email or call your
Representative. Ph) 888-449-3511 (toll-free).
- ----------- Pre-written message ------------
Dear Representative:
Rep. John Hostettler is trying to get a very important amendment
into the Treasury budget this year. In order to get support from
various Representatives, he is circulating a letter addressed to
appropriations subcommittee Chairman Jim Kolbe. This letter asks
Rep. Kolbe to insert language defunding the Oversight Commission
that was created in the recent Clinton & Wesson agreement. This
Commission has the force of law to make sure the gun control
restrictions agreed to by Smith & Wesson are being followed by
anyone who does business with the company.
I hope you will take the time to sign this very important letter
and support his efforts 100 percent!
The recent Clinton & Wesson agreement is disgusting, and it is
completely out of line with what Americans want. A recent Zogby
poll found that 2/3 of the people say it's illegitimate to bring
lawsuits against gun manufacturers or to hold them liable for the
criminal misuse of guns. And despite what the media seems to think,
people don't want more gun control. Zogby also found that only 29
percent of people would be likely to support a candidate that is a
"supporter of stronger gun controls."
The President's recent deal is nothing but an end-run around the
Constitution. Congress has power to enact laws -- not the President
through the extortion of American businesses. Again, I hope you
will sign the Hostettler letter and do everything you can to stop
this back-door attempt at gun control.
I would also request that you speak to Rep. Kolbe personally and ask
him to put the pro-gun language in the budget. Thank you.
Sincerely,
__________________
**************
Cheaper Than Dirt donates a percentage of your total order to GOA if
you use http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/goa.htm to enter their online
store.
**************
Did someone else forward this to you? To be certain of getting up to
date information, please consider subscribing to the GOA E-Mail
Alert Network directly. There is no cost or obligation, and the
volume of mail is quite low. To subscribe, simply send a message to
goamail@gunowners.org and include the state in which you live, in
either the subject or the body. To unsubscribe, reply to any alert
and ask to be removed.
_______________________________________________
Liberty-and-Justice mailing list
Liberty-and-Justice@mailbox.by.net
http://mailbox.by.net/mailman/listinfo/liberty-and-justice
- -
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 11:16:37 -0700
From: Scott Bergeson <shbergeson@uswest.net>
Subject: L&J: Help Rep. Hostettler Overturn Clinton And Wesson
- -----
Subject: Help Rep. Hostettler Overturn Clinton And Wesson
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 17:46:54 -0500
From: Gun Owners of America <goamail@gunowners.org>
To: goamail@gunowners.org
Rep. Hostettler needs your help to overturn the Clinton & Wesson
sell-out -- Prospects for passage are good; but your Rep. must
hear from you!
Gun Owners of America E-Mail/FAX Alert
8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102, Springfield, VA 22151
Phone: 703-321-8585 / FAX: 703-321-8408
http://www.gunowners.org
(Wednesday, March 29, 2000) -- Rep. John Hostettler (R-IN) is
leading the charge against the latest unholy alliance to rear its
ugly head. As most activists know, the Clinton administration
struck a deal with Smith & Wesson almost two weeks ago -- an
agreement that not only affects the company itself, but would also
inflict gun control restrictions on private gun buyers and impose
massive red tape on ALL gun sales by retailers that carry S & W
products.
To enforce the Clinton & Wesson deal, an Oversight Commission that
has the force of law will make sure the gun control restrictions
agreed to by S & W are being followed by all dealers doing business
with the company -- restrictions that apply to ALL brands carried by
the dealer, not just the S & W guns that they sell.
But Rep. Hostettler is working to get pro-gun language put in the
budget this year that will put a stop to this insanity. His language
will not only defund the Oversight Commission, it will deny funds
for any future lawsuit by the Clinton administration that would seek
to extort more companies to follow Smith & Wesson's lead.
This Battle Is Definitely Winnable
Two years ago, Senator Bob Smith (R-NH) succeeded in defunding the
FBI's plan to tax gun owners. Smith boldly went to the floor of the
Senate -- where fellow colleagues told him his measure could not
pass. But he ignored the naysayers, forced a vote on his measure,
and accomplished his goal of getting an provision in the budget
withholding funds for an FBI gun tax -- a provision that is still
there to this day.
This budget battle is similar, although it will take a little bit
more work on the part of the grassroots. The House is not like the
Senate; it's not as easy to get amendments put into legislation.
But it can be done!
URGENT ACTION: Please take the time to contact your Representative.
This is super important! If Clinton gets his way and bankrupts the
American firearms industry through lawsuits, how easy will it be for
you to get new firearms? How easy will it be for your children and
grandchildren to buy new firearms in the future? The future of the
Second Amendment is on the line here. Please contact your Rep.
right away!
You can use the text below to fax, email or call your
Representative. Ph) 888-449-3511 (toll-free).
- ----------- Pre-written message ------------
Dear Representative:
Rep. John Hostettler is trying to get a very important amendment
into the Treasury budget this year. In order to get support from
various Representatives, he is circulating a letter addressed to
appropriations subcommittee Chairman Jim Kolbe. This letter asks
Rep. Kolbe to insert language defunding the Oversight Commission
that was created in the recent Clinton & Wesson agreement. This
Commission has the force of law to make sure the gun control
restrictions agreed to by Smith & Wesson are being followed by
anyone who does business with the company.
I hope you will take the time to sign this very important letter
and support his efforts 100 percent!
The recent Clinton & Wesson agreement is disgusting, and it is
completely out of line with what Americans want. A recent Zogby
poll found that 2/3 of the people say it's illegitimate to bring
lawsuits against gun manufacturers or to hold them liable for the
criminal misuse of guns. And despite what the media seems to think,
people don't want more gun control. Zogby also found that only 29
percent of people would be likely to support a candidate that is a
"supporter of stronger gun controls."
The President's recent deal is nothing but an end-run around the
Constitution. Congress has power to enact laws -- not the President
through the extortion of American businesses. Again, I hope you
will sign the Hostettler letter and do everything you can to stop
this back-door attempt at gun control.
I would also request that you speak to Rep. Kolbe personally and ask
him to put the pro-gun language in the budget. Thank you.
Sincerely,
__________________
**************
Cheaper Than Dirt donates a percentage of your total order to GOA if
you use http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/goa.htm to enter their online
store.
**************
Did someone else forward this to you? To be certain of getting up to
date information, please consider subscribing to the GOA E-Mail
Alert Network directly. There is no cost or obligation, and the
volume of mail is quite low. To subscribe, simply send a message to
goamail@gunowners.org and include the state in which you live, in
either the subject or the body. To unsubscribe, reply to any alert
and ask to be removed.
_______________________________________________
Liberty-and-Justice mailing list
Liberty-and-Justice@mailbox.by.net
http://mailbox.by.net/mailman/listinfo/liberty-and-justice
- -
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 08:56:58 -0700
From: Scott Bergeson <shbergeson@uswest.net>
Subject: FW: What Ever Happened to Fairness and Objectivity?
- -----
Subject: What Ever Happened to Fairness and Objectivity?
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 00:25:18 EST
From: Opsgreen@aol.com
What Ever Happened to Fairness and Objectivity?
When did the news media decide it was time to start making the news
instead of reporting it? The other night I was watching "NBC Nightly News
with Tom Brokaw". The news started out with the usual happenings of the
day...a story about Elain Gonzalez..a story about trying to balance work and
family..and a few other news items. Following these stories was the featured
story of the night, the "in depth" report. The in depth report was titled:
"Crusader Plans Million Mom March". It then went on to tell the story of
Donna Dees Thomasses and her "crusade" against "the gun lobby". The story
touted the actions of this New Jersey suburbs mother of two daughters and
what she is doing to toughen gun laws. The story was one of the longest of
the night, and was placed at the end of the broadcast in a position of
importance. So what's the problem?
One-sided reporting.
Not once in this "in depth" report was anyone allowed to say anything
positive about guns or gun owners, and the story was full of a number of
subtle and not so subtle put downs of those who disagree with the positions
of this woman. Let me mention just a few lines from the story as it was
later published on NBC's web site.
The story started out with a recently release study by the American Journal
of Public Health. And I quote, "..of the households with a least one firearm
and children under age 18 living in the home, 43 percent keep a gun without
a trigger lock in an unlocked place. And more than 9 percent said they keep
their guns unlocked and loaded despite the presence of children."
In response to this figures, let me quote Mark Twain, "there are three
types of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics". The "American Journal of
Public Health". It sounds scientific and scholarly, and in that subtle
deception lies the problem. The way NBC presented these numbers-- without
telling its audience how these statistics were actually obtained, or if the
population who was most likely simply surveyed was big enough to represent
a large enough sample size to even be relevant--it seemed as if an evil was
occurring in "43 percent" of homes where guns were present. Homes without
gun locks. The horror! If these numbers are actually true (which is doubtful),
most of these "gun lock free" homes probably represent homes in which parents
still teach their children the proper respect for firearms. I grew up in a
home where a gun was kept "without a trigger lock in an unlocked place" and
the bullets were always around. Did we ever have a problem? Of course not.
Because my father actually taught me and my brothers and sisters a thing or
two. When I ask anti-gun zealots what the difference is between the home I
grew up in and homes where gun accidents have occurred, I usually receive
nothing but a blank stare on a face that is starting to turn red with anger
or frustration. But did NBC bother to mention the responsible gun owners
who fall under the blanket of their statistics? No, they'd rather have you
believe that their numbers and the implied anti-gun connotation are simply
true, and only a fool would question information that is "scientific".
I could go on and on about how supposedly reputable journals, like the
"American Journal of Public Health" are actually in the policy making
business as opposed to being worried about truth and science, but instead
let me focus on a more important point. NBC never countered these numbers
with any pro-gun/pro-second Amendment numbers at all.
Let's look at a few more lines from the story.
"No one ever turns out for rallies about gun control -- that's what I was
told," Dees-Thomasses said. Undaunted, she decided to do the march herself
even though she admitted the biggest thing she'd ever organized was a
carpool. "It is moms in every town across America working, putting up
flyers in coffee shops and beauty salons," said Dees-Thomasses. "You know
you get a group of women and look what they can do. A small group of women,
they can really change the world."
Good job Donna Thomasses. A small group of women can really change the world.
But does NBC news talk about that change? No. Because everyone already knows
what they think. It is for the better. Fortunately, not all Americans, myself
being one of them, think that having a woman crusader hell-bent on weakening
the Second Amendment is a good thing. NBC's story goes on to quote this woman
saying things like, "Yes, that's her [referring to her adorable little
daughter] slogan. ΓÇÿFlowers are good and guns are bad." And the anti-gun
crowds recent favorite argument, "There's no reason why you can't treat a
handgun like you do an automobile. That as a handgun owner, that you should
get a license." NBC even features a "Republican" Dana Quist saying, "We don't
want to have to bury anymore children. We bury twelve children a day [another
false liberal "statistic"]! That's obscene, that's ridiculous!"
Actually, what is obscene and ridiculous is NBC one-sided story and the
markedly untrue and misleading information they pump out on a nightly basis.
So where is the rest of the story, you might ask? That's it! Not one part of
the story represented or even attempted to represent the pro-Second Amendment
side of the issue. NBC even had the audacity to end their story with the
line: "Now this suburban mom says her mission won't end with the march, not
until the mothers of America face down the gun lobby and win." As if every
American mother now supports the destruction of the Second Amendment and the
only supporters of those evil guns are "the gun lobby" and not millions of
citizens who still believe in the ideals of the founding fathers. And the
problem is with more than NBC.
According to a recent report by the Media Research Center, between July
1st 1997 and June 30th 1999, stories advocating more gun-control that ran
on ABC, CBS, CNN, and NBC outnumbered stories opposing more gun-control
357 to 36. Every American should be asking him or herself a question:
If a position is true and right, does that position require one-sided
reporting so biased as to be approaching propaganda in order to sway
people in that positions direction? The "hard sell" is only required when
a customer has no desire to buy the goods. And such is the approach of
the gun-control sell being thrown onto the American public. All this
brings me to a few final questions:
What happened to the journalists of the 40s and 50s, back when reporters
were supposed to be objective? What ever happened to real reporters?
Has the once honorable title of "journalist" been replaced by a title the
news networks dare not speak? That of manipulating propagandist? Actually,
I think there are still a lot of real reporters out there; many reporting
for small, local newspapers and many are on the net; they just can't get
jobs with major or even minor networks anymore, because as the Media
Research Group says, "the mainstream media has already chosen sides on the
gun issue." Unfortunately, when it comes to old-fashioned journalistic
principles like truth and fairness, these so called "reporters" have
chosen the other side.
Christopher Cook
Constitutional American. Still free and at large.
Here's a link to check out...a group that is actively fighting the
lies and misinformation. <A HREF="http://www.eaglesup.com/trt.html">
Click here: WELCOME TYRANNY RESPONSE TEAM</A>
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Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 11:58:50 -0700
From: Scott Bergeson <shbergeson@uswest.net>
Subject: FW: Letter to Sen. Hatch
- -----
Subject: gun legislation
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 22:39:01 MST
From: "Ron Christiansen" <rhchristiansen@hotmail.com>
To: senator-hatch@hatch.senate.com
CC: senator_hatch@hatch.senate.gov, senator@bennett.senate.gov, greg@votehawkins.com
Senator Hatch:
It grieves me to have to write you to express my disdain over your support
of gun control.
I helped send you to Washington because you originally represented my
principles. As I continued to support you in your re-elections, you have
drifted continually to the right.
Specifically, I noticed in 1993 you started to abandon the values that got
you to the senate originally by voting for the Democrat "crime bill" that
banned many semi auto firearms. This bill was introduced by Dianne
Feinstein. The list goes on from there. In 1995 you introduced S.3 that
would have been a slam on our 4th amendment protection. Fortunately, wiser
minds prevailed and this bill failed. Do you recall sponsoring S.735 in
1995? How about in 1996 voting for the Lautenberg domestic gun ban? In the
'97-'98 session you voted to seat Margaret Morrow on the federal bench. I
was aware she was anti-gun and believe you knew this too. But you voted to
seat her anyway. That leads to your assistance in seating Ruth Ginsburg and
Stephen Breyer to the Supreme Court. In 1998 you introduced S. 10. Why do
you suppose it was referred to as Hatch's Horror Bill? Fortunately again,
wiser minds prevailed and time ran out. But you were not deterred, and this
year brought S. 254 back to life.
Sir: Can you explain to me how any of these bills would have stopped the
tragedies that provided the political opportunity you and others seized in
order to promote you careers. How does a trigger lock requirement or a ban
on private sales at a gun show stop two evil students determined to take
lives of other students. A young boy is a product of a broken home, left
with a relative who resides at a "crack house". He takes a pistol from
"home" to school and kills a little girl who is his 1st. grade classmate.
The answer is to give the residents of the crack house trigger locks?
Where was your voice when Bill Clinton should have been on the ropes during
the impeachment hearings? He was not even tried on the crimes he should
have been. It may have been expedient to try him on lesser charges and find
him not guilty in order to keep Al Gore from being President and hence being
an incumbent during this election time. In my eyes, it is not honorable.
By the way, were you entertaining presidential prospects at that time?
I notice now that election time is nearing, you are standing by the NRA
instead of your liberal friends. Who are you really? If I may plagiarize
part of an old saying-will the real Senator Hatch please stand up.
Senator Hatch, I call on you to right the wrongs that you have caused law
abiding firearm owners to suffer. I ask you to lay out a responsible agenda
to reverse the years of "bad law" that are preemptive against law abiding
citizens and unconstitutional in nature.
I offer a few of suggestions for your consideration:
A resolution honoring the 2nd Amendment and it's guarantee of an individual
to keep and bear arms.
Withdraw the gun control provisions in the Juvenile Justice Bill.
A law against government suites against private companies based on improper
use of their product to accomplish unlawful acts.
How about eliminating about 21,900 gun control laws. Doesn't it make more
sense to hold people responsible for the own actions, not for lawless
actions of others?
No more gun control.
I am a state delegate from Box Elder County for the Republican party. On May
6, 2000, myself and some friends who are delegates also, will be voting for
the republican senate candidate who will be on the Utah ballot in November.
Will you take the time to respond to this letter and tell me and in turn
others why you deserve our vote at the convention next month and our trust
for the next 6 years?
Sincerely,
Douglas E. Christiansen
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Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 20:42:56 -0700
From: Scott Bergeson <shbergeson@uswest.net>
Subject: An Army of Gun Lies
http://www.nationalreview.com/17apr00/kopel041700.html
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Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 08:24:58 -0600
From: Scott Bergeson <shbergeson@uswest.net>
Subject: Wayne LaPierre radio show online (Sunday 8-10pm ET)
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Subject: Wayne LaPierre radio show online (Sunday 8-10pm ET)
Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 19:21:42 -0500
From: Bill Nalty <bilnalty@bellsouth.net>
To: "cas@pudge.listbox.com" <cas@admin.listbox.com>
Wayne LaPierre (Sunday 8-10pm ET)
KNSS - 1240 AM - Wichita, KS
Home: http://www.broadcast.com/radio/talk/KNSS
Home: http://www.1240knss.com./schedule.htm
Call-In: 1-800-634-3881
Home NRA: http://www.nra.org/
The regular URL will not work for LaPierre's Show (It's Blocked)
Listen MediaPlayer: http://playlist.broadcast.com/makeasx.asp?id=5888
***BUT***
If you use this "mms" file, you can hear the 2- hour broadcast.
mms://206.190.42.99/knss
Copy the above file, and place it into File/Open window of your
MediaPlayer. Then Click the OK button to make connection.
I just tested connection - Radio America's Gary Nolan is subbing for
Wayne LaPierre tonight. You would know, I've been forgetting to
post this for the past 3 weeks when Wayne was a hot news item.
Bill
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Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 16:21:29 -0600
From: "Karl Pearson" <karlp@colubs.com>
Subject: It Gets Worse In Taxachussetts
The Liars Are Winning! Big Brother Government can't win if the populace is
armed. Just ask Germany.
*** Mass. set to regulate guns
BOSTON (AP) - Armed with a court ruling, the state Monday began
enforcing the nation's first consumer protection regulation of
handguns. "This is a huge victory," said John Rosenthal of Stop
Handgun Violence, a leading proponent of gun-control measures in the
state. The new rules would effectively ban "Saturday night specials,"
and require handguns sold in the state to include childproof locks,
tamper-proof serial numbers and safety warnings. Enforcement of the
rules begins immediately, the attorney general's office said. The new
gun safety regulations would not only affect Massachusetts gun
dealers, but also any gun manufacturers who want to do business in
the state. See
http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2565393752-247
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Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 18:55:16 -0600 (MDT)
From: Karl Pearson <karlp@colubs.com>
Subject: Maryland, land of the banal, insipid moron
*** Md. takes gun law further
ANNAPOLIS, Md. (AP) - The Maryland House sent the governor legislation
that would make the state the first to require new handguns to be equipped
with built-in locks, allowing no one but authorized users to fire them.
The locks will be required by 2003 under the bill approved Monday night by
the House. Until then, all guns sold will have to be equipped with
external trigger locks, beginning in October. No other state has approved
such a measure. Gov. Parris Glendening is eager to sign the bill, already
approved by the Senate. "This bill will takes a giant step toward creating
safer communities not just in Maryland but across the country," Glendening
said. He predicted that within 18 months, six to 12 states will move
forward on similar legislation. See
http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2565418941-38b
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Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 11:08:36 -0600
From: "Karl Pearson" <karlp@colubs.com>
Subject: Thought For The Day
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch.
Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." -- Benjamin Franklin"
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Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 15:25:26 -0600
From: Scott Bergeson <shbergeson@uswest.net>
Subject: ALERT: Vicious Gun Brings Down Airliner!
ALERT FROM JEWS FOR THE PRESERVATION OF FIREARMS OWNERSHIP
America's Aggressive Civil Rights Organization
April 4, 2000
ALERT: Vicious Gun Brings Down Airliner!
"Eeeeek! It's .............. a .............gunnnn!"
"Norfolk Tower calling all flights. Be advised of the national emergency
and standby for delays in your flight pattern. Delta Express Flight 2395
will be diverting to land at this airport because it is carrying a handgun."
We can't make this story any funnier than it is. Delta Express Flight
2395 actually aborted its April 3 flight from New York to Florida and
emergency landed in Virginia, because somebody found a loaded sidearm
in the passenger cabin bathroom. Click on the AP story
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/aponline/20000403/aponline202745_000.htm
Nobody was waving the firearm around. Nobody was threatening anyone
with it. Nobody was even holding it. It was inert.
Yet panic erupted. The plane had to be landed abruptly.
The FBI was called in to search the plane. Why?
Because the anti-self defense lobby has absolutely convinced so many
Americans that firearms are dangerous in any condition and at all
times. Loaded or unloaded. The very presence of a firearm strikes
terror into the hearts of otherwise intelligent Americans -- all
because the firearm fear-mongers have succeeded so well.
A loaded firearm lying quietly on the sink poses no danger to anyone
unless they pick it up and misuse it. In just a few seconds the
sidearm on the plane could have been unloaded and rendered entirely
and utterly 100% safe.
But no. The "public health" propaganda, funded by the federal Centers
for Disease Control (CDC) and others, has managed to make people think
guns are immediately and always dangerous. The mere "presence" of guns
is a public health menace, they say. Delta Express apparently believes
that big lie.
What if the airline crewmembers had been properly trained, and not
terrified, about firearms? The flight would have proceeded without
any delay necessary. Passengers would have suffered no danger, no
inconvenience and no panic.
Are the flight attendants incapable of unloading a revolver or
semi-automatic sidearm? Are likewise the flight officers incapable
of unloading a sidearm? If so, it is because they have been
intentionally denied the proper training.
The airline crews would not be alone. A whole generation of Americans
has been systematically propagandized against having any interest
or knowledge about firearms. Uneducated children became ignorant
and fearful adults. What used to be common sense has disappeared.
Grown men and women cower and shake when a gun is around.
Would the flight crew have aborted the flight had a bow and arrow
been found under a seat? Or a long knife?
A single firearm, an inanimate object lying inertly without a person
attached to it, was enough to terrify Delta into bringing down an
airliner... and that story made national news on the AP Wire.
Understand: this is a sign of the huge victory the victim
disarmament lobby has won in the war of ideas.
Need confirmation? Click on:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_dougherty/20000330_xnjdo_sixth_grad.shtml
Jon Dougherty's article there describes how a sixth-grade student
was disciplined and sent to psychological counseling because he
advocated rational self-defense and the Second Amendment. No joke
- -- read it -- see the thought-police state in action. Then you'll
see how morally bizarre this nation is becoming -- all the result
of firearms fear-mongering. Will the enemy win the hearts and minds
of all Americans?
Folks, we have a mighty lot of work to do to save our national
sanity and our individual liberty. Let's get moving!
Click on http://www.jpfo.org and look at the many educational tools,
the strategies to change the terms of the debate. Practically
everything you need to use is available, much of it absolutely free
on the website.
Take action! Use just one of these tools or strategies, but do it
now. When the firearms confiscation order arrives in your mailbox,
it will be way too late.
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