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- utah-firearms-digest Saturday, June 12 1999 Volume 02 : Number 140
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- Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 19:37:11 -0600
- From: "S. Thompson" <righter@therighter.com>
- Subject: Re: FW: About the GOP Convention 1/2
-
- At 02:11 PM 6/8/99 -0700, you wrote:
- >
- >---------- Forwarded message ----------
- >Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 11:50:43 -0600
- >To: lputah@qsicorp.com
- >From: "Jim Dexter" <jimdex@inconnect.com>
- >
- >The reporter (who was anonymous in the copy I received) neglects to mention
- >that Gerry Arthus got 22% of the vote for GOP state chair.
- >
- >Those who attended might be able to identify the writer by the actions
- >described herein.
-
-
- I believe the author is Arnold Gaunt, the sponsor of the two resolutions
- mentioned.
-
- Sarah
-
- - -
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 14:28:50 -0600
- From: "S. Thompson" <righter@therighter.com>
- Subject: The Salt Lake Tribune -- Nation/World
-
- http://www.sltrib.com/06091999/nation_w/nation_w.htm
-
- Wednesday,
- > June 09, 1999
- >=20
- > Feds Check If IOC Boss Broke U.S. Firearm Laws =
- [Advertisement]
- >=20
- > BY GREG BURTON =A9 1999 [Image]
- > THE SALT LAKE TRIBUNE Samaranch [The Front
- Page for Today]
- > Federal investigators [Notable News
- - -- Links to Newspapers on the Net]
- > are trying to determine whether a handgun given to [Image]
- > International Olympic Committee President Juan Antonio [Search]
- > Samaranch during a 1991 visit to Salt Lake City was taken [Tribtalk]
- > out of the country in violation of U.S. firearms laws. [Tribaccess
- Archives]
- > As part of the government's investigation into the bid [Help Desk]
- > for the 2002 Olympics, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and [Links and
- special features]
- > Firearms (ATF) is examining a series of transactions [Contact the
- Tribune]
- > between the Salt Lake bid committee, the IOC and Browning
- > Arms Co., The Salt Lake Tribune has learned.
- > The Morgan County gun manufacturer sold or delivered 10
- > weapons to the bid committee. At least three of those guns Today's
- > were given to Samaranch. Headlines:
- > "We were interviewed by the ATF and the FBI and we
- > discussed the facts that the products we sold to [the bid [Image] GOP
- > committee] were spotted in other parts of the world," said Poll Shows
- > Rich Bauter, Browning's vice president of marketing. That Public Backs
- > acknowledgment essentially ended the interview, Bauter Gun Laws
- > said.
- > Visitors to the United States must obtain approval from [Image]
- > the U.S. State Department before leaving the country with
- > weapons purchased or obtained here. Browning Says
- > Violators could be charged under federal law with Gun-Crime
- > felony exportation of a firearm without a permit, said ATF Report Isn't
- > spokesman Larry Bettendorf. Other federal laws restrict Accurate
- > non-U.S. citizens from possessing firearms without a permit
- > and prohibit unlicensed dealers from exporting firearms [Image]
- > from the country. Babbitt: West
- > The ATF inquiry dovetails with investigations of wire Is Awash in
- > fraud and money laundering by the FBI, tax fraud by the Water, It=
- Just
- > Internal Revenue Service and a U.S. Customs probe of a Needs an
- > transport of large sums of cash out of the country. Efficient=
- Plan
- > "I really can't comment on any ongoing information that
- > we may or may not have," Bettendorf said. [Image] Reel
- > The Department of Justice also declined to comment on
- > any aspect of the investigation, although The Tribune has Dilemma:
- > learned at least two people are facing indictments in the Violence, Sex
- > Olympic scandal. Treated
- > Browning has found invoices for 10 firearms bought by Differently
- > the bid committee. A 7 mm bolt-action rifle and
- > semiautomatic shotgun were delivered to Samaranch in May [Image]
- > 1995 at the bid committee's request. Theaters=
- Agree
- > Another invoice was for a 9 mm pistol sold to the bid to Enforce
- > committee in February 1991, two months before Samaranch's Film-Rating
- > first visit to Utah. The invoice, for $395.86, was directed System
- > to Tom Welch, the former head of the bid committee and the
- > Salt Lake Organizing Committee (SLOC). [Image]
- > The pistol was presented to Samaranch during a dinner
- > at the home of businessman Jon Huntsman. Carmakers to
- > "[Our] counsel has not been informed of any involvement Install
- > by ATF," SLOC spokeswoman Shelley Thomas said Tuesday. Trunk-Release
- > The IOC has acknowledged that Sam-aranch was given a Latches
- > pistol and a rifle, and Samaranch has said he was given
- > guns on two visits to Salt Lake City. [Image]
- > The rifle was presented in a case with an engraved Legislators
- > plaque that read, "Presented to President Juan Antonio Try to Save
- > Samaranch from the Browning Arms Co. on behalf of the Big With
- > people of Salt Lake City." Lobbyist Cash
- > Last year, Samaranch gave conflicting answers about
- > where the rifle and pistol are kept. In a press conference, [Image] U.S.
- > he said they are in the Olympic Museum in Lausanne,
- > Switzerland. But in a subsequent interview, he said they Gathers Its
- > are in his office. Peacekeepers
- > "I am in a position to show them to any of my as It Keeps
- > visitors," he reportedly told a European newspaper. Bombing Serbs
- > A Browning Arms Model 1886 lever-action rifle and
- > custom case delivered to the bid committee at 1994 Winter [Image]
- > Olympics in Lillehammer, Norway, was apparently given to Balkans Peace
- > the king of Norway. =20
-
- > ---------------------------------------------------------
- >=20
- > =A9 Copyright 1999, The Salt Lake Tribune
- > All material found on Utah OnLine is copyrighted The Salt
- > Lake Tribune and associated news services. No material may
- > be reproduced or reused without explicit permission from
- > The Salt Lake Tribune.
-
-
- - -
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 11:20:30 -0600
- From: charles hardy <utbagpiper@juno.com>
- Subject: Re: FYI. Leavitt Speaks on Gun Control!
-
- If there is ANY gun owner in this State who still thinks Leavitt is any
- better than a Democrat would be, I'd like to see about selling them some
- ocean front property in St. George.
-
- I suggest everyone also check out the accompanying article at
- <http://www.sltrib.com/06101999/utah/180.htm> (or via the link on the
- front page <http://www.sltrib.com/>). On the one hand, even the BATF
- basically admits that many of the so called "dangerous felons"
- "prevented" from buying guns are nothing more than someone who committed
- check fraud 20 years ago and aren't even worth arresting for trying to
- buy a gun. On the other, even those convicted of violent felonies are
- almost never arrested unless there happens to be an outstanding warrant
- at the time the purchase is attempted. Even then, they aren't likely to
- actually be charged with trying to buy a gun illegally.
-
- On Thu, 10 Jun 1999 11:04:02 -0600 "Mr. Black" <dusk@utah-inter.net>
- writes:
- >To All:
- >
- >See your marvelous Governor finally revealing his true colors on the
- >front
- >page of the SL Tribune: "Weapons Don't Belong in School, Governor
- >Says" at
- >http://www.sltrib.com/
- >
- >Gore/Leavitt in 2000!
- >
- >Mr. Black
- >
- >P.S. In the next Star Wars movie, I nominate Hatch to play Senator
- >Palpatine and Leavitt to play his new apprentice -- Darth Liar. Call
- >it
- >"The Phantom Republicans."
-
- ==================================================================
- Charles C. Hardy
- <utbagpiper@juno.com>
-
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- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 11 Jun 99 09:41:00 -0700
- From: scott.bergeson@ucs.org (SCOTT BERGESON)
- Subject: FW: House Votes Coming Next Week
-
- - ---------- Forwarded message ----------
- Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 22:45:29 -0600
- Subject: LPU: FW: House Votes Coming Next Week
- From: "Jim Dexter" <jimdex@inconnect.com>
-
- House to Tackle Anti-gun Crime Bill Soon
-
- Gun Owners of America E-Mail/FAX Alert
- 8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102, Springfield, VA 22151
- Phone: 703-321-8585 / FAX: 703-321-8408
- http://www.gunowners.org
-
- Thursday, June 10, 1999
-
- "House Republican leaders yesterday embraced gun control legislation
- written with the help of the National Rifle Association and announced
- plans to rush it to a final vote." -- The Washington Post, 6/9/99
-
-
- House To Take Up Gun Control Next Week
-
- Voting on juvenile crime legislation will probably begin next week.
- There will be gun control amendments offered on the floor of the
- House, and many of these provisions will probably parallel the gun
- issues that were considered in the Senate (background registration
- checks, import bans on self-defense magazines, liability on gun
- owners who don't lock up their guns, etc.).
-
- The House Republican leadership is supporting a proposal that, among
- other things, will impose background registration checks on those
- buying guns from PRIVATE individuals at gun shows. Gun owners should
- begin calling their Representatives and urge them to vote "NO" on
- all gun control-- including any Gun Control "Lite" provisions that
- are sponsored by Republicans. [Activists can now get an exact copy
- of the juvenile crime bill (S. 254) that passed in the Senate at
- http://www.gunowners.org/gts254.htm on the GOA Website.]
-
-
- Republicans Getting Hammered On Capitol Hill
-
- Irate gun owners from across the country are deluging Republicans with
- correspondence, both at the Republican National Committee and on Capitol
- Hill. Reports have indicated that the RNC has been "besieged" with mail,
- as "several boxes" of faxes, emails and letters have been unloaded upon
- their offices. House Speaker Denny Hastert's office has admitted to
- receiving a thousand calls a day from angry gun owners.
-
- In what could be an attempt to counteract this grassroots response,
- the head of the National Republican Congressional Committee, Rep.
- Tom Davis (R-VA), released a poll recently supposedly showing that
- 80% of Republicans favor stricter gun controls, such as those which
- passed in the Senate juvenile crime bill. This ignores the fact
- that truly honest polls-- such as those conducted by the Denver
- Rocky Mountain News (5/20/99)-- have found that 65% of people want
- less gun control, like easier concealed carry.
-
- "Should people ought to have to register a gun like they register
- their cars? Do I think that? Of course I do. Of course I do." --
- President Bill Clinton, June 4, 1999
-
-
- Democrats Pushing For More Gun Control
-
- Even before the House of Representatives has had a chance to vote on
- the juvenile crime bill, top-ranking Democrats in Congress and in
- the White House are predicting that the current batch of gun control
- provisions will be followed by more stringent proposals. For example,
- on June 4, President Clinton stated on ABC's Good Morning America that:
-
- "I have made it perfectly clear that I want to get what was passed
- in the Senate, passed in the House. Then we will come back and try
- to pass some more [gun control]."
-
- The current gun control proposals in Congress are mere stepping stones
- to Clinton's next goal. He has openly stated he wants to move towards
- full-fledged gun owner registration. Gun owners should not fall for
- Congressional promises that once this anti-gun crime bill is finished
- with, they will get the whole gun control debate "behind them." Not
- true. If the current gun restrictions in Congress become law, we will
- see an immediate move towards even stricter proposals. The time to stop
- the hemorrhaging is now. Make sure your Congressman hears from you.
-
- ACTION: If you have not done so already, please contact your Representative
- and ask him to oppose Gun Control "Heavy" (from the Democratic side of the
- aisle) and to oppose Gun Control "Lite" (from the Republicans). Moreover,
- Representatives should be encouraged to vote "NO" on the final passage of
- any juvenile bill that contains even the least 2nd Amendment infringement.
-
- Call the House at 202-225-3121 or toll free at 1-888-449-3511. The address
- for all Representatives is: [Name of Rep.], U.S. House of Representatives,
- Washington DC 20515. See http://www.gunowners.org/h106th.htm for fax and
- e-mail contact info.
-
- **************
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- information, please consider subscribing to the GOA E-Mail Alert Network
- directly. There is no cost or obligation, and the volume of mail is quite
- low. To subscribe, simply send a message to goamail@gunowners.org and
- include the state in which you live, in either the subject or the body.
- To unsubscribe, reply to any alert and ask to be removed.
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-
- - -
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 11 Jun 99 09:41:00 -0700
- From: scott.bergeson@ucs.org (SCOTT BERGESON)
- Subject: Vin: May 31 column -- kids with guns
-
- * CARBON COPY:
- * Original was to Reader.Advocate@sltrib.com (Shinika Sykes)
-
- This is another excellent column for The Salt Lake Tribune to print.
- I believe it is quite easy to obtain syndication rights from Vin
- Suprynowicz and the Las Vegas Review-Journal. Please request your
- editors to do so.
-
- Scott Bergeson
-
- - --------- Forwarded message ----------
- From: Vin_Suprynowicz@lvrj.com (Vin Suprynowicz)
- To: vinsends@ezlink.com
- Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 18:53:05 -0700
- Subject: May 31 column -- kids with guns
-
- FROM MOUNTAIN MEDIA
- FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE DATED MAY 31, 1999
- THE LIBERTARIAN, By Vin Suprynowicz
- To prevent a life of crime, buy your kid a gun
-
- It's called propaganda: Simplify your lie down to an easily-recalled slogan,
- repeat it often enough, and people will eventually get it down by heart and
- accept it as fact.
-
- Take: "The cause of all these school shootings is the too-easy availability
- of guns."
-
- Prior to the National Firearms Act of 1933, there was no law to
- discourage a veteran of the Great War from keeping a fully-operational
- souvenir machine gun in the bedroom closet. There were few towns in
- America where the local lads didn't know the location of at least one
- such weapon. Yet none was ever used in a "school shooting."
-
- As late as the 1960s, it was not unusual in rural America for young
- boys to carry their .22 rifles to school with them, parking them in the
- principal's office until needed for the target matches after school. At
- age 49 I am no doddering old-timer, but I can remember young lads walking
- the country roads of Ohio and Connecticut after school with their rifles
- (or bicycling home with the weapons across their handlebars), hoping to
- pick off some predatory bird with the full encouragement of area farmers.
- A neighbor might chide you about watching where your bullets went if you
- missed, but no one ever called the police to report "The Jones boy is
- heading down the road with his gun; come arrest him!"
-
- When I went away to Eaglebrook School in Massachusetts (yes, "Own a gun,
- go to jail" Massachusetts) in 1962 at the age of 12, I took my rifle. We
- fired for accuracy at the range on Saturdays. I daresay we could have
- snuck them out of the lockers down at the gym for some mayhem if it ever
- crossed our minds ... but it never did.
-
- The violent media? Today's TV offers nothing like "The Rifleman" or
- "Wanted Dead or Alive," programs of the early 1960s in which Chuck
- Connors and Steve McQueen ended every episode by mowing down some
- reprobate who had kicked the town dog or insulted Millie down at the
- general store, in McQueen's case using a sawed-off Winchester which
- it's now a federal felony even to recreate for a museum.
-
- This focus on "the availability of guns" -- ignoring the fact they were
- far more accessible only 40 years ago, when you could order a 20-mm Lahti
- anti-tank gun through the mail from an ad in the back of a comic book --
- is intended not only to advance the prior agenda of those who want a
- disarmed and enslaved citizenry, but also to distract us from asking what
- it is about the mandatory behavior modification labs (public schools) which
- creates such rage and frustration in our incarcerated adolescent males. We
- don't see these shoot-em-ups in the private schools, or among home-schoolers.
-
- It also diverts attention from the perfectly relevant question of how many of
- these shooters had been on drugs known to affect the judgment, like Ritalin
- and Luvox, (start ital)prescribed and administered by their government
- wardens(end ital).
-
- In the face of all this misdirection, isn't it too bad the government
- has never conducted an actual scientific study on how it affects a
- child's likelihood of committing crimes if his parents buy him a gun?
-
- Um, actually ... they have.
-
- The study was conducted from 1993-1995 by the U.S. Department of
- Justice's Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention. Child
- psychologists tracked 4,000 boys and girls aged 6 to 15 in Denver,
- Pittsburgh, and Rochester, N.Y. Their findings?
-
- - -- Children who get guns from their parents don't commit gun crimes (0%)
- while children who get guns illegally are quite likely to do so (21%).
-
- - -- Children who get guns from parents are less likely to commit any kind
- of street crime (14%) than children who have no gun in the house (24%) --
- and are dramatically less likely to do so than children who acquire an
- illegal gun (74%.)
-
- - -- Children who get guns from parents are less likely to use banned
- drugs (13%) than children who get illegal guns (41%.)
-
- - -- Most strikingly, the study found: "Boys who own legal firearms have
- much lower rates of delinquency and drug use (than boys who own illegal
- guns) and are even slightly less delinquent than non-owners of guns."
-
- This wouldn't have surprised anyone before the rise of the modern welfare
- state. It used to be common knowledge that the best way to get kids to act
- "responsibly" was precisely to give them some "responsibility." Why would
- we assume a child taught by his parents to use a gun responsibly wouldn't
- also be more responsible in his other behaviors?
-
- "Want to dramatically reduce the chance that your child will commit a
- gun-related crime or -- heaven forbid -- go on a shooting spree?" asked
- the national Libertarian Party in a May 21 news release detailing these
- study results. "Buy your youngster a gun."
-
- "Politicians are apparently more interested in demonizing guns than they
- are in facts," commented LP national director Steve Dasbach, himself an
- Indiana government schoolteacher. But "The evidence is in: The simplest
- way to reduce firearm-related violence among children is to buy them a
- gun and teach them how to use it responsibly."
-
-
- Vin Suprynowicz, assistant editorial page editor of the Las Vegas
- Review-Journal, is author of the book, "Send in the Waco Killers: Essays
- on the Freedom Movement, 1993-1998."
-
- ***
-
-
- Vin Suprynowicz, vin@lvrj.com
-
- The evils of tyranny are rarely seen but by him who resists it. -- John
- Hay, 1872
-
- The most difficult struggle of all is the one within ourselves. Let us
- not get accustomed and adjusted to these conditions. The one who adjusts
- ceases to discriminate between good and evil. He becomes a slave in body
- and soul. Whatever may happen to you, remember always: Don't adjust!
- Revolt against the reality! -- Mordechai Anielewicz, Warsaw, 1943
-
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- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 23:51:33 -0600
- From: charles hardy <utbagpiper@juno.com>
- Subject: Fw: May 31 column -- kids with guns
-
- - ----------------
- Charles Hardy
- <utbagpiper@juno.com>
-
- - --------- Forwarded message ----------
- From: Vin_Suprynowicz@lvrj.com (Vin Suprynowicz)
- To: vinsends@ezlink.com
- Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 18:53:05 -0700
- Subject: May 31 column -- kids with guns
- Message-ID: <v02130509b374f889cff6@[0.0.0.0]>
-
-
- FROM MOUNTAIN MEDIA
- FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE DATED MAY 31, 1999
- THE LIBERTARIAN, By Vin Suprynowicz
- To prevent a life of crime, buy your kid a gun
-
- It's called propaganda: Simplify your lie down to an easily-recalled
- slogan, repeat it often enough, and people will eventually get it down by
- heart and accept it as fact.
-
- Take: "The cause of all these school shootings is the too-easy
- availability of guns."
-
- Prior to the National Firearms Act of 1933, there was no law to
- discourage a veteran of the Great War from keeping a fully-operational
- souvenir machine gun in the bedroom closet. There were few towns in
- America
- where the local lads didn't know the location of at least one such
- weapon.
- Yet none was ever used in a "school shooting."
-
- As late as the 1960s, it was not unusual in rural America for young
- boys
- to carry their .22 rifles to school with them, parking them in the
- principal's office until needed for the target matches after school. At
- age 49 I am no doddering old-timer, but I can remember young lads walking
- the country roads of Ohio and Connecticut after school with their rifles
- (or bicycling home with the weapons across their handlebars), hoping to
- pick off some predatory bird with the full encouragement of area farmers.
- A
- neighbor might chide you about watching where your bullets went if you
- missed, but no one ever called the police to report "The Jones boy is
- heading down the road with his gun; come arrest him!"
-
- When I went away to Eaglebrook School in Massachusetts (yes, "Own a
- gun,
- go to jail" Massachusetts) in 1962 at the age of 12, I took my rifle. We
- fired for accuracy at the range on Saturdays. I daresay we could have
- snuck
- them out of the lockers down at the gym for some mayhem if it ever
- crossed
- our minds ... but it never did.
-
- The violent media? Today's TV offers nothing like "The Rifleman" or
- "Wanted Dead or Alive," programs of the early 1960s in which Chuck
- Connors
- and Steve McQueen ended every episode by mowing down some reprobate who
- had
- kicked the town dog or insulted Millie down at the general store, in
- McQueen's case using a sawed-off Winchester which it's now a federal
- felony
- even to recreate for a museum.
-
- This focus on "the availability of guns" -- ignoring the fact they were
- far more accessible only 40 years ago, when you could order a 20-mm Lahti
- anti-tank gun through the mail from an ad in the back of a comic book --
- is
- intended not only to advance the prior agenda of those who want a
- disarmed
- and enslaved citizenry, but also to distract us from asking what it is
- about the mandatory behavior modification labs (public schools) which
- creates such rage and frustration in our incarcerated adolescent males.
- We
- don't see these shoot-em-ups in the private schools, or among
- home-schoolers.
-
- It also diverts attention from the perfectly relevant question of how
- many of these shooters had been on drugs known to affect the judgment,
- like
- Ritalin and Luvox, (start ital)prescribed and administered by their
- government wardens(end ital).
-
- In the face of all this misdirection, isn't it too bad the government
- has
- never conducted an actual scientific study on how it affects a child's
- likelihood of committing crimes if his parents buy him a gun?
-
- Um, actually ... they have.
-
- The study was conducted from 1993-1995 by the U.S. Department of
- Justice's Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention. Child
- psychologists tracked 4,000 boys and girls aged 6 to 15 in Denver,
- Pittsburgh, and Rochester, N.Y. Their findings?
-
- -- Children who get guns from their parents don't commit gun crimes (0
- percent) while children who get guns illegally are quite likely to do so
- (21 percent).
-
- -- Children who get guns from parents are less likely to commit any
- kind
- of street crime (14 percent) than children who have no gun in the house
- (24
- percent) -- and are dramatically less likely to do so than children who
- acquire an illegal gun (74 percent.)
-
- -- Children who get guns from parents are less likely to use banned
- drugs
- (13 percent) than children who get illegal guns (41 percent.)
-
- -- Most strikingly, the study found: "Boys who own legal firearms have
- much lower rates of delinquency and drug use (than boys who own illegal
- guns) and are even slightly less delinquent than non-owners of guns."
-
- This wouldn't have surprised anyone before the rise of the modern
- welfare
- state. It used to be common knowledge that the best way to get kids to
- act
- "responsibly" was precisely to give them some "responsibility." Why would
- we assume a child taught by his parents to use a gun responsibly wouldn't
- also be more responsible in his other behaviors?
-
- "Want to dramatically reduce the chance that your child will commit a
- gun-related crime or -- heaven forbid -- go on a shooting spree?" asked
- the
- national Libertarian Party in a May 21 news release detailing these study
- results. "Buy your youngster a gun."
-
- "Politicians are apparently more interested in demonizing guns than
- they
- are in facts," commented LP national director Steve Dasbach, himself an
- Indiana government schoolteacher. But "The evidence is in: The simplest
- way to reduce firearm-related violence among children is to buy them a
- gun
- and teach them how to use it responsibly."
-
-
- Vin Suprynowicz, assistant editorial page editor of the Las Vegas
- Review-Journal, is author of the book, "Send in the Waco Killers: Essays
- on
- the Freedom Movement, 1993-1998."
-
- ***
-
-
- Vin Suprynowicz, vin@lvrj.com
-
- The evils of tyranny are rarely seen but by him who resists it. -- John
- Hay, 1872
-
- The most difficult struggle of all is the one within ourselves. Let us
- not
- get accustomed and adjusted to these conditions. The one who adjusts
- ceases
- to discriminate between good and evil. He becomes a slave in body and
- soul. Whatever may happen to you, remember always: Don't adjust! Revolt
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- Date: Sat, 12 Jun 99 10:45:00 -0700
- From: scott.bergeson@ucs.org (SCOTT BERGESON)
- Subject: FW: GOUtah! Alert #16 - 11 June 1999 1/2
-
- GOUtah! Gun Owners of Utah
-
- Utah's Uncompromising, Independent Gun Rights Network.
- No Compromise. No Retreat. No Surrender. Not Now. Not Ever.
-
- Visit our website at www.slpsa.org/goutah!
-
- GOUtah! Alert #16 - 11 June 1999
-
- Today's Maxim of Liberty:
-
- "It is unreasonable ...to oblige a man not to attempt the defense
- of his own life." -Montesquieu, in The Spirit of Laws
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-
- U.S. House To Take Up Gun Control Next Week-Your Action Is Urgently Needed!
- A Special Report from Gun Owners of America -10 June 1999
-
- "House Republican leaders yesterday embraced gun control legislation written
- with the help of the National Rifle Association and announced plans to rush
- it to a final vote." -- The Washington Post, 6/9/99
-
- Voting on juvenile crime legislation will probably begin next week. There
- will be gun control amendments offered on the floor of the House, and many of
- these provisions will probably parallel the gun issues that were considered
- in the Senate (background registration checks, import bans on self-defense
- magazines, liability on gun [owners] who don't lock up their guns, etc.).
-
- The House Republican leadership is supporting a proposal that, among other
- things, will impose background registration checks on those buying guns from
- PRIVATE individuals at gun shows. Gun owners should begin calling their
- Representatives and urge them to vote "NO" on all gun control--including any
- Gun Control "Lite" provisions that are sponsored by Republicans. [Activists
- can now get an exact copy of the juvenile crime bill (S. 254) that passed
- in the Senate at http://www.gunowners.org/gts254.htm on the GOA website.]
-
- (GOUtah! Note: An NRA/ILA Alert mailed nationwide to all NRA members this
- week indicated that the Lautenberg language from the U.S. Senate version
- describes "events" rather than only "gun shows" and "transfers" rather than
- "sales." These terms are not defined in the bill. As such, this language
- could easily be stretched to include any event at which any firearms transfer,
- sale, gift or other exchange might take place, such as a shooting competition,
- club meeting, family gathering, business lunch, etc. Clearly the intent of
- the bill is to require every private party transfer, regardless of nature,
- circumstance or location to require a background check, along with the
- potential for registration and potential confiscation. We urge you to oppose
- any expansion to the current Brady background check system.)
-
- Call and write your U.S. Congressman TODAY!
-
- Congressional District 1: Northern and Western Utah, except Salt Lake Metro
-
- Rep. Jim Hansen (R)
- 242 Cannon House Office Building
- Washington, DC 20515
- Phone (202) 225-0453
- Fax (202) 225-5857
- E-mail: www.house.gov
- click on Members and select Jim Hansen
-
- Local Office: 324-25th Ave.
- Ogden, Utah 84401
- Utah Phone: (801) 451-5822
- Utah Fax: (801) 621-7846
-
- Congressional District 2: Salt Lake Metro Area
-
- Rep. Merrill Cook (R)
- 1431 Longworth House Office Building
- Washington, DC 20515-0001
- Phone (202) 225-3011
- Fax (202) 225-5638
- E-mail: Cong.Merrill.Cook@mail.house.gov
-
- Local Office: 125 South State Street
- Salt Lake City, Utah 84138
- Utah Phone: (801) 524-4394
-
- Congressional District 3: Central and Eastern Utah
-
- Rep. Chris Cannon (R)
- 118 Cannon House Office Building
- Washington, DC 20515-4403
- Phone (202) 225-7751
- Fax (202) 225-5629
- E-mail: Cannon.ut03@mail.house.gov
-
- Local Offices: 51 South University Drive
- Provo, Utah 84606
- Utah Phone: (801) 379-2500
- Utah Fax (801) 379-2509
-
- Republicans Getting Hammered On Capitol Hill
- A Special Report from Gun Owners of America -10 June 1999
-
- Irate gun owners from across the country are deluging Republicans with
- correspondence, both at the Republican National Committee and on Capitol
- Hill. Reports have indicated that the RNC has been "besieged" with mail,
- as "several boxes" of faxes, emails and letters have been unloaded upon
- their offices. House Speaker Denny Hastert's office has admitted to
- receiving a thousand calls a day from angry gun owners.
-
- In what could be an attempt to counteract this grassroots response, the
- head of the National Republican Congressional Committee, Rep. Tom Davis
- (R-VA), released a poll recently supposedly showing that 80% of Republicans
- favor stricter gun controls, such as those which passed in the Senate
- juvenile crime bill. This ignores the fact that truly honest polls-- such
- as those conducted by the Denver Rocky Mountain News (5/20/99)-- have found
- that 65% of people want less gun control, like easier concealed carry.
-
- Democrats Pushing For More Gun Control
- A Special Report From Gun Owners of America-10 June 1999
-
- Even before the House of Representatives has had a chance to vote on the
- juvenile crime bill, top-ranking Democrats in Congress and in the White
- House are predicting that the current batch of gun control provisions will
- be followed by more stringent proposals. For example, on June 4, President
- Clinton stated on ABC's 'Good Morning America' that:
-
- "I have made it perfectly clear that I want to get what was passed in the
- Senate, passed in the House. Then we will come back and try to pass some
- more [gun control]."
-
- The current gun control proposals in Congress are mere stepping stones to
- Clinton's next goal. He has openly stated he wants to move towards
- full-fledged gun owner registration. Gun owners should not fall for
- Congressional promises that once this anti-gun crime bill is finished
- with, they will get the whole gun control debate "behind them." Not true.
- If the current gun restrictions in Congress become law, we will see an
- immediate move towards even stricter proposals. The time to stop the
- hemorrhaging is now. Make sure your US Congressman hears from you TODAY.
- [ Continued In Next Message... ]
-
-
-
- - -
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- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sat, 12 Jun 99 10:45:00 -0700
- From: scott.bergeson@ucs.org (SCOTT BERGESON)
- Subject: FW: GOUtah! Alert #16 - 11 June 1999 2/2
-
- [ ...Continued From Previous Message ]
- 1999 Utah GOP State Political Convention Review-
- Elected Leader's Anti-Gun Positions Rebuked by Republican Party Delegates
- A Report From Arnold Gaunt, Utah State Republican Party Delegate
-
- Senator Orrin Hatch's and Governor Mike Leavitt's advocacy for gun control
- were opposed by delegates attending the Utah Republican Party State Organizing
- Convention on Saturday June 5 at the Weber State Dee Events Center in Ogden.
- Both politicians made appeals to the Party prior to the hearing of resolutions
- addressing their promotion of gun control at the federal and state level,
- respectively.
-
- In the case of Orrin Hatch, he provided a free breakfast preceding the
- Convention in a failed effort to lure his die-hard supporters to oppose the
- resolution. In addition, in his Convention report, he dramatized the impact
- of crime in America and the resultant "necessity" of his anti-gun S. 254.
- According to Sen. Hatch, gun owners should be happy that S. 254 isn't even
- worse than it is.
-
- As proof of his Second Amendment advocacy, Hatch stated that he had been
- deputized as a Special US Marshal when his life had been threatened, and
- thereby was authorized for concealed carry. However, his deputization
- proves nothing more than hypocrisy on the issue of self-defense. When
- Orrin is threatened, he receives a carry permit that is valid throughout
- the US, preempts state and local laws, and is good even on airplanes.
-
- On the other hand, when a private citizen faces similar threats, no similar
- carry permit is available. Can it be that some people's right to life is
- greater than others?
-
- Governor Leavitt, who appears to be accompanied by armed bodyguards, shares
- Hatch's position that some people (like "important" politicians) should be
- able to defend their lives without restriction, while the rest should accept
- ever-increasing "reasonable" infringements on their right to be armed. When
- Leavitt offered some "reasonable" Second Amendment infringements to the
- Convention, delegates didn't buy his gratuitous advice, and responded by
- shouting back at him and jeering. Abruptly, the Governor changed subjects.
-
- Resolutions were finally considered after Hatch and Leavitt had presented their
- respective arguments for more gun control legislation. The first resolution
- requested that Hatch and Bennett "uphold their oath of office by voting against
- all proposals and legislation that compromise or subvert the Second Amendment,
- and utilize whatever means are necessary, including the filibuster, to prevent
- their passage, so as to protect the inherent rights of Utahns and Americans".
-
- The second resolution requested that Gov. Leavitt "exercise prudence,
- responsibility, and restraint by not calling a special session of the
- Legislature for the purpose of enacting laws that infringe on the right of
- self-defense". Happily, both resolutions were passed by large margins.
- So, if Hatch and Leavitt don't represent the Republican Party on the Second
- Amendment, whom do they represent?
-
- The text of the Utah Republican Party resolutions passed is available on
- the GOUtah! website at www.slpsa.org/goutah!
-
- Utah Legislative Committees Will Meet on Wednesday, 16 June to Discuss
- Gun Control Measures. Be There!
-
- Please remember to attend the Utah Interim Legislative Committee hearings
- on Wednesday, 16 June 1999 at 2:00 PM at the Utah State Capitol. It is
- critical we be there in force! Make your voice heard to protect your rights!
-
- The Judiciary Committee will meet in Room 403 to discuss issues related to
- pleas and prosecution of gun crimes, additions to prohibited classes for
- gun purchases, and other items.
-
- The Law Enforcement and Criminal Justice Committee will meet in Room 416 to
- discuss updates on the Federal laws under consideration. BCI background
- Checks, Mental health records access, gun shows, and progress reports form
- the Governor's anti-gun working groups.
-
- Governor Leavitt intends to call for a special session of the Utah Legislature
- to consider Utah gun laws in the Fall of 1999. If he cannot get a majority of
- Utah legislators to support the special session, it will not take place. So
- far the Utah Senate has indicated they will favor the session, while the Utah
- House is as yet uncommitted. Focus your calls, email and letters to the Utah
- House members!
-
- GOUtah! asks every Utah gun owner and concerned citizen to immediately and
- repeatedly contact their state representatives and senators at home and
- again urge them to take a measured and rational approach to these issues,
- rather that blame peaceable gun owners for the deep seated ills of our
- society. We must now work overtime to avoid a special session of the Utah
- Legislature, which would likely devolve into a free-for-all legal and media
- circus which will ride roughshod over our gun rights.
-
- Feds Look Into Salt Lake Olympic Committee's Possible Gun Law Violations
-
- The Salt Lake Tribune reports in a 9 June 1999 article that the FBI and ATF
- are examining possible federal weapons export law violations by members of
- SLOC and the Salt Lake Olympic Bid Committee, related to the numerous gifts
- of Browning firearms to IOC members, including IOC President Juan Antonio
- Samaranch. These allegations come close on the heels of media reports that
- at least two members of the Salt Lake Olympic bid group will be facing
- federal grand jury indictments regarding their actions in the
- bribery-scandal plagued 2002 Winter Olympic Games bidding process.
-
- GOUtah! Gun Rights (and Wrongs) Quote Watch
-
- "Should people ought to have to register a gun like they register their cars?
- Do I think that? Of course I do. Of course I do."
- - -- President Bill Clinton, television interview, June 4, 1999
-
- I'm one Republican who doesn't want my child going to a school where teachers
- are armed." -- Governor Michael O. Leavitt, in a speech to the Utah Republican
- Party Convention in Ogden, Utah on 5 June 1999
-
- "I do! I do!" -- Shouted responses from numerous Utah Republican Party
- Delegates, loudly disagreeing with the above comments by Governor Leavitt.
-
- If you have a gun rights quote you'd like to share, please send it, along
- with a verifiable original source reference to GOUtah!
-
- That concludes the GOUtah! Political and Legislative Alert #16 - 11 June
- 1999. We hope this information will be of assistance to you in defending your
- firearms rights. Remember that getting this information is meaningless unless
- YOU ACT ON IT TODAY. If you just read it and dump it in the trash, your gun
- rights, and the gun rights of future generations go in the trash with it.
- Get involved, get active and get vocal! Copyright 1999 by GOUtah!
- All rights reserved.
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