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Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 14:02:04 -0700
From: "Chuck Hards" <chuckh@companionsystems.com>
Subject: Re: (utah-astronomy) Swap Meet Opions
Dave wrote:
>>Was it worth while?
>Yes, very much so. It was even worth the 3 hour drive from Cedar City!
WOW! Now that's dedication to one's interests!
If anyone on this list drove further than Dave Bennett, please post. I will
send the person who came the farthest a FREE 6" x 6" piece of Baader
Planetarium solar-filter material.
Dave, if no-one beats your distance, you will be the winner! Send me your
postal address privately. chuckh@companionsystems.com
Now I feel silly for whining about driving only 25 miles!
Thank you, Dave, for showing such great support.
Chuck
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Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:53:18 -0700
From: "Alyxandra K. MacLeod" <LucyBlue@Softhome.net>
Subject: Re: (utah-astronomy) Space Tourism (was: Anyone for a vacation on Mir?)
Chuck,
Great idea about the tourist module attached to MIR. Would be a great way to
boost interest and it would be a safe environment!
Is there any benefit to businesses that could do things in space? I'll show my
ignorance here... but perhaps it'd be easier to manufacture something in zero g,
or... oh, who knows. I'm sure if they did have some sort of touristy place for
people to go, there would be some who would be able and willing to afford it. I
know if I won that $52million lottery jackpot I'd be up there in a heartbeat, no
matter the risks...okay, maybe if there was some big risk... but hey, if I can
survive two rollovers in life, ain't no shuttle gonna get rid of me! :)
Cyn
Chuck Hards wrote:
> It occurred to me that a "tourist" module could probably be added to the
> ISS.
> NASA could charge all the market will bear, and the proceeds could help
> support the station in general.
>
> This would provide a larger, more interesting environment than Mir for the
> visitors, as well as being much safer. Tours of the various modules would
> be scheduled during slow periods (rare), between projects, between crew
> rotations, or between shifts, so as to not interfere with the science being
> done there.
>
> And how about this: A telescope module available to the tourists! Forget
> going to a dark-sky astro resort on earth, this would be the ultimate! A
> kind of "Baby Hubble". For that matter, a module could support several
> medium-sized telescopes, with NASA either auctioning the time (to raise
> funds) or offering it at a fixed rate for the serious
> amateur-researcher/vacationer. Too, there could be a dedicated scope
> pointing back at earth, for those who are doing geophysical work (or
> espionage!)
>
> The tourist-oriented modules could be removed, if desired, and be
> re-attached to a dedicated "cluster" hotel at a later date.
>
> We don' need no stinkin' Mir!
>
> Chuck
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Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 07:42:22 -0700
From: "Alyxandra K. MacLeod" <LucyBlue@Softhome.net>
Subject: (utah-astronomy) Subject of the Week
Hello all,
I am on another email list which is pretty active, and the list
administrator posts a topic of the week each week. I was
wondering if the folks on this list would be interest in such a
thing, to stir up discussion? I'd of course take suggestions for
any topic which people would like to discuss. There are about 35
people on this list now, and hopefully more will join... but, if
we have a topic to discuss, perhaps it'll boost member
participation...
Any thoughts?
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Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 17:23:41 -0700
From: "P. Wiggins" <p.wiggins@m.cc.utah.edu>
Subject: (utah-astronomy) Re: Subject of the Week
"Alyxandra K. MacLeod" wrote:
>
> Hello all,
> I am on another email list which is pretty active, and the list
> administrator posts a topic of the week each week. I was
> wondering if the folks on this list would be interest in such a
> thing, to stir up discussion?
Perhaps we could ask for folks' opinions on what they like (and would like to
see changed) at public star parties.
Patrick :-)
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Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 07:57:17 -0700
From: VJ McEVILLY <riskman@parkcity.net>
Subject: Re: (utah-astronomy) Re: Subject of the Week
Sounds like a good idea?
VJ McEvilly
"P. Wiggins" wrote:
> "Alyxandra K. MacLeod" wrote:
> >
> > Hello all,
> > I am on another email list which is pretty active, and the list
> > administrator posts a topic of the week each week. I was
> > wondering if the folks on this list would be interest in such a
> > thing, to stir up discussion?
>
> Perhaps we could ask for folks' opinions on what they like (and would like to
> see changed) at public star parties.
>
> Patrick :-)
>
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Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 08:02:04 -0700
From: VJ McEVILLY <riskman@parkcity.net>
Subject: Re: (utah-astronomy) Subject of the Week
Let's do it!
"Alyxandra K. MacLeod" wrote:
> Hello all,
> I am on another email list which is pretty active, and the list
> administrator posts a topic of the week each week. I was
> wondering if the folks on this list would be interest in such a
> thing, to stir up discussion? I'd of course take suggestions for
> any topic which people would like to discuss. There are about 35
> people on this list now, and hopefully more will join... but, if
> we have a topic to discuss, perhaps it'll boost member
> participation...
>
> Any thoughts?
> Cynthia
>
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Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 09:50:42 -0700
From: Alyxandra MacLeod <Lucyblue@Softhome.net>
Subject: (utah-astronomy) [Fwd: [Fwd: Fwd: school requesting help]]
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Subject: [Fwd: Fwd: school requesting help]
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 18:12:59 -0700
From: "P. Wiggins" <p.wiggins@m.cc.utah.edu>
Reply-To: p.wiggins@m.cc.utah.edu
To: c@teacherhelp
Holly Phaneuf wrote:
>
> Dear friends,
> I just spoke to a rather overwhelmed teacher's aide on the phone asking for suggestions for science projects/demonstrations for a "science week" at her school (achievers academy).
>
> The bad news is that this assignment was given to her at the last minute, and next week is the week.
>
> The good news is that there are only eleven students, and this week could be possibly postponed, so more could be done.
>
> The students range in age from 5-10 years old.
>
> If you can think of any science demonstrations she can do, or if you would like to go to the school to perform your own, you can get in touch with her by e mail:
>
> glehaven@msn.com
> and her work number is 801-269-8532
>
> Thanks for your support! Holly
>
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Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 08:22:15 -0700
From: "Chuck Hards" <chuckh@companionsystems.com>
Subject: Re: (utah-astronomy) Space Tourism (was: Anyone for a vacation on Mir?)
Cynthia wrote:
>Chuck,
>Great idea about the tourist module attached to MIR.
I wrote ISS, most defintely NOT MIR!
Chuck
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Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 09:55:45 -0700
From: "Alyxandra K. MacLeod" <LucyBlue@Softhome.net>
Subject: (utah-astronomy) Star Parties
Okay, we had a suggestions to discuss Star Parties. I've put
together a list of questions. Feel free to answer them if you
like, and post to the list. Or add your own questions, or modify
these, or whatever...
PUBLIC STAR PARTIES
1. How often do you attend Public Star Parties?
2. Do you usually bring a telescope and show the public objects?
Or do you usually come to observe through other telescopes?
3. Do you feel the number of Public Star Parties offered is
adequate? Why?
4. What do you like best about Public Star Parties?
5. What do you like least?
6. If you don't attend star parties, why? What would you like
to see at them that would encourage you to attend more?
PRIVATE STAR PARTIES
1. How often do you attend Private Star Parties?
2. Do you usually bring a telescope? Or do you usually come to
observe through other telescopes?
3. What do you like best about Private Star Parties?
4. What do you like least?
5. Where do you like private star parties to be held?
Please give your general opinion of Star Parties, both public and
private. Also, please say where you mostly attend the star
parties, be it in SL, Ogden, Provo, Cedar City, etc... and which
locations in each area.
Thanks for your cooperation! I hope to hear as many responses as
there are people on the list! ;)
Cynthia
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Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 10:10:25 -0700
From: "Alyxandra K. MacLeod" <LucyBlue@Softhome.net>
Subject: (utah-astronomy) [Fwd: [Fwd: Planetarium Factoid: A Very Special Leap Day]]
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Subject: [Fwd: Planetarium Factoid: A Very Special Leap Day]
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 10:03:14 -0700
From: "P. Wiggins" <p.wiggins@m.cc.utah.edu>
Reply-To: p.wiggins@m.cc.utah.edu
To: "(S) sorensen, cynthia" <lucyblue@softhome.net>
"P. Wiggins" wrote:
>
> 24 February 2000
>
> Hansen Planetarium Factoid: A Very Rare Leap Day Next Week
>
> Most people know that because 2000 is a leap year this month gets an extra day,
> a leap day as it's called, allowing the month to grow from 28 to 29 days.
>
> However, many do not know that this coming 29th of February is a very special
> (and rare) leap day.
>
> Usually a leap day is added to each year that can be evenly divided by 4.
> However, because of a little known quirk in our calendar, the "divide by four"
> rule, does not apply to any end of the century year unless that year can also be
> divided evenly by 400.
>
> So, this year, 2000, is a leap year since it can be evenly divided by 400. But
> 1900 did not pass the division rule so it was not a leap year, nor was 1800 or
> 1700. In fact the last time a century ended in a leap year was 1600. And the
> next will not be until 2400.
>
> So, enjoy your leap day next week because it will be another 400 years before we
> get another one just like it.
>
> # # #
>
> Patrick Wiggins
> Hansen Planetarium Education Department
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Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 10:34:18 -0700
From: "P. Wiggins" <p.wiggins@m.cc.utah.edu>
Subject: Re: (utah-astronomy) Star Parties
"Alyxandra K. MacLeod" wrote:
>
> PUBLIC STAR PARTIES
>
> 1. How often do you attend Public Star Parties?
I make it to just about every one of the SLAS star parties and a few others as
well (usually in S. Utah).
> 2. Do you usually bring a telescope and show the public objects?
> Or do you usually come to observe through other telescopes?
Usually bring a telescope and sometimes video equipment to allow the public to
view the Moon and planets on a monitor.
> 3. Do you feel the number of Public Star Parties offered is
> adequate? Why?
Adequate? Yes, but I would not mind seeing more. We do public star parties
(IMHO) to serve the public so the more we do the better our chances of
accomplishing our goal. And besides, as Deloy Pierce says: "Seven days without
a star party makes one weak." :-)
> 4. What do you like best about Public Star Parties?
Showing the public "what's up".
> 5. What do you like least?
Clouds! :-)
> PRIVATE STAR PARTIES
>
> 1. How often do you attend Private Star Parties?
Very seldom but only because the private star parties are usually held the same
night's Dr. Holy and I are doing public star parties in S. Utah.
Patrick :-)
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Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 11:14:00 -0700
From: "Alyxandra K. MacLeod" <LucyBlue@Softhome.net>
Subject: Re: (utah-astronomy) Star Parties
> PUBLIC STAR PARTIES
>
> 1. How often do you attend Public Star Parties?
Not very often. I used to go almost every weekend about six years ago, then
abruptly stopped. Now I go maybe once per year.
> 2. Do you usually bring a telescope and show the public objects?
> Or do you usually come to observe through other telescopes?
I used to bring a telescope, my C8, but now I just go to observe
> 3. Do you feel the number of Public Star Parties offered is
> adequate? Why?
I don't really go to enough to actually know if there are enough. I'll leave this
estimate to those who frequent the star parties more often.
> 4. What do you like best about Public Star Parties?
To talk to the people I haven't seen in a while.
> PRIVATE STAR PARTIES
>
> 1. How often do you attend Private Star Parties?
Usually once a year, I like going to Elizabeth Pass with SLAS.
> 2. Do you usually bring a telescope? Or do you usually come to
> observe through other telescopes?
I usually observe through other scopes now, though perhaps this year I'll dust off
the ol' C8.
> 3. What do you like best about Private Star Parties?
I like that there are fewer people than public star parties. I like to be able to
go camping and bring my dogs. I like sitting around a campfire and talking about
astronomy or how the club was way-back-when. :) I like seeing dark-sky objects
and not having to deal with traffic and lights. I'm not a big-crowd person, and I
like the smaller groups in the private star parties. Most of all I like the
camping.
> 5. Where do you like private star parties to be held?
Since I'm more of a camper than an observer now, I like the camp sites like
Elizabeth Pass and other mountainous areas. You probably won't see me at Rush
Valley!
> Please give your general opinion of Star Parties, both public and
> private. Also, please say where you mostly attend the star
> parties, be it in SL, Ogden, Provo, Cedar City, etc... and which
> locations in each area.
I attend the SLAS star parties located at SPOC or Little Mountain, and the private
star parties located in the Uintahs or other camping locations. I've always
enjoyed the star parties and have had a great time seeing objects and talking to
the people. I think star parties are a great resource for the public, an easy way
for them to become familiar with astronomy.
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Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 11:27:00 -0700
From: ("David Dunn") <Dunn.David@amstr.com>
Subject: (utah-astronomy) Star Parties
Okay, we had a suggestions to discuss Star Parties. I've put
together a list of questions. Feel free to answer them if you
like, and post to the list. Or add your own questions, or modify
these, or whatever...
PUBLIC STAR PARTIES
1. How often do you attend Public Star Parties?
8 to 10 a year.
2. Do you usually bring a telescope and show the public objects?
Or do you usually come to observe through other telescopes?
I bring a couple of telescopes.
3. Do you feel the number of Public Star Parties offered is
adequate? Why?
I think that they are about right. If there were too many we might have
people lose interest or Astronomers might burn out.
4. What do you like best about Public Star Parties?
I like interacting with the public that show up. I enjoy showing people
the different things that I can find. I also like the "Dark Sky" so that I
can see more galaxies and nebulas.
5. What do you like least?
300 people and three astronomer and clouds.
6. If you don't attend star parties, why? What would you like
to see at them that would encourage you to attend more?
PRIVATE STAR PARTIES
1. How often do you attend Private Star Parties?
2 or 3.
2. Do you usually bring a telescope? Or do you usually come to
observe through other telescopes?
I bring a couple of scopes.
3. What do you like best about Private Star Parties?
I can spend more time looking for evasive objects.
4. What do you like least?
I really do like to show people what I find. There aren't usually very
many people to show them too at private parties.
5. Where do you like private star parties to be held?
Anywhere Dark.
Please give your general opinion of Star Parties, both public and
private. Also, please say where you mostly attend the star
parties, be it in SL, Ogden, Provo, Cedar City, etc... and which
locations in each area.
I really enjoy any time that I can get out and use my telescopes. I enjoy
teaching my children about astronomy. I enjoy showing people the different
things that we can see. I even enjoy helping someone set up their toy store
telescope for the first time. I usually go to all the OAS parties.
Thanks for your cooperation! I hope to hear as many responses as
there are people on the list! ;)
Cynthia
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Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 11:43:04 -0700
From: "Alyxandra K. MacLeod" <LucyBlue@Softhome.net>
Subject: Re: (utah-astronomy) Star Parties
Speaking of OAS... I've been a SLASer all my life, and I'm not
familiar with the Ogden club at all. When do you guys have
meetings? Where? Where are your private and public star parties
usually held? I've always been curious.
Also, I'm interested to know who on this list is affiliated with
what club. I'm SLAS, like I said, and have been for... oh, about
17 years now, off-n-on. Who else is on? Any clubs? No clubs?
Out of Utah?
Thanks,
Cyn
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Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 11:49:31 -0700
From: "Chuck Hards" <chuckh@companionsystems.com>
Subject: Re: (utah-astronomy) Star Parties
Cynthia wrote:
>PUBLIC STAR PARTIES
>
>1. How often do you attend Public Star Parties?
Not at all since the '70's.
>2. Do you usually bring a telescope and show the public objects?
>Or do you usually come to observe through other telescopes?
Both. Not at star parties, but in my neighborhood, at schools, privately,
etc.
>3. Do you feel the number of Public Star Parties offered is
>adequate? Why?
No opinion.
>4. What do you like best about Public Star Parties?
No opinion.
>5. What do you like least?
Too many people, kids, noise, headlights, dust, and drunk freaks.
>6. If you don't attend star parties, why? What would you like
>to see at them that would encourage you to attend more?
See #5 above. Also, as I recall, SLAS (and other clubs) hold their
star-parties on Friday nights. Folks, I have to get up at 5 am to go to
work on Fridays. I am in no condition to stay up late that night, as a
result. Saturday nights are by far the best night for me to stay up late.
>PRIVATE STAR PARTIES
>
>1. How often do you attend Private Star Parties?
About once every other month or so. More frequently in summer, less so in
winter.
>2. Do you usually bring a telescope? Or do you usually come to
>observe through other telescopes?
Have done both equally.
>3. What do you like best about Private Star Parties?
Few people, good music, privacy, SATURDAY NIGHTS, plum brandy.
>4. What do you like least?
Other people wanting to use MY eyepieces and accessories, then returning
them with a thumbprint on the glass. Other people wanting me to find 10th
magnitude or brighter objects for them. (I'll admit that it was an ego trip
for the first 25 years, now it's old)
>5. Where do you like private star parties to be held?
On private property, or secluded locations. Places where random headlights
and curious bystanders do not show up.
>Please give your general opinion of Star Parties, both public and
>private.
Public parties = no general opinion. Private parties = More time observing,
less time answering questions, and you don't worry about equipment getting
stolen.
>lso, please say where you mostly attend the star
>parties, be it in SL, Ogden, Provo, Cedar City, etc... and which
>locations in each area.
Used to go to SLAS parties at Little Mtn, SPOC, wherever.
I appreciate the chance to contribute, Cynthia, but my answers are the
"oddball data" that typically gets tossed out before the curve is plotted!
Chuck Hards
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Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 12:30:00 -0700
From: ("David Dunn") <Dunn.David@amstr.com>
Subject: Re: (utah-astronomy) Star Partie
OAS meets the second Tues of each month at the Ott Planetarium at Weber State.
Our public star parties are at Antelope Island. Our private camping parties
are on Monte Cristo. The dates for the parties are posted on our web page.
The address for our web page is http://physics.weber.edu/oas/oas.html. Last I
heard we had about 60 members. I have been a member for 3 years. The club
was started in the early 70s.
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Subject: Re: (utah-astronomy) Star Parties
Speaking of OAS... I've been a SLASer all my life, and I'm not
familiar with the Ogden club at all. When do you guys have
meetings? Where? Where are your private and public star parties
usually held? I've always been curious.
Also, I'm interested to know who on this list is affiliated with
what club. I'm SLAS, like I said, and have been for... oh, about
17 years now, off-n-on. Who else is on? Any clubs? No clubs?
Out of Utah?
Thanks,
Cyn
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