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trektrade-digest Monday, May 10 1999 Volume 98 : Number 311
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(TrekTrade) WTT: DS9 Memories autograph and battle cards
(TrekTrade) FYI
(TrekTrade) Another seller alert
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Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 09:08:36 -0600
From: Cliff Grimes <cliffg@lucent.com>
Subject: (TrekTrade) WTT: DS9 Memories autograph and battle cards
Here is my DS9 Memories trade list
Need: A2, A3, A6, A14, A18, A19x2
B4x3, B5
Extras: A1, A5, A7x2, A9x2, A10x2, A11, A12, A15x2, A17x2
B1, B6, B8, B9x2
Thanks,
Cliff
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Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 08:41:53 -0400
From: Vince Maiocco <vmaiocco@voicenet.com>
Subject: (TrekTrade) FYI
This is a series of excepts of an Email conversation I had over the last
week or so with Brian Bowers. Brian is a fellow who sells on eBay and on
Lynne's auction. I've done business with him in the past. He recently
contacted me to see if I'd be interested in a few Trek items he wanted to
sell and here's the way the conversation went:
He said he had a set of Australian Scanlens cards but didn't know what they
were worth, so I should make an offer. I said I, too, had no feel for
their value, so I put a posting up on TrekChat to see if anyone had the=
info.
I got back a response from Lynne, saying they ranged from $150 to 300 for a
Mint set.
Brian then wrote me, saying he also got the same info and asked what I'd be
willing to offer. Here's some excerpts from there on:
I wrote to Brian:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>Yeah, I guess I wasn't real surprised, since I knew that the other
scanlens (I thought it was British, but apparently not) was 'way up there.
Now, a Lay-Away sounds do-able. If you could live with the low estimate of
$150, I could send you $50 every 2 weeks (starting 2 weeks after we get the
other stuff squared away) and be able to avoid a divorce altogether<G>.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Brian's reply:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>Sounds good. I would like to have you pay shipping and insurance. AND I
would=20
>like to insure the set for 300.00, since that is high price of the set,=
just=20
>in case something happens, because I can't replace it. I really don't think=
=20
>it will cost that much, again, 3.20 priority and probably 85 cents
insurance.=20
>I'll take care of confirmation charges, if any. Sound OK? LMK, and thank=
you!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Now, it seems to me that, at this point we have a deal, am I wrong? Let's
continue:
I replied:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>Yes, I think insurance is a MUST. Although, be prepared to show them an
invoice for $300, because that's how they determine the actual value of
something lost/destroyed. If necessary, I'll back you up on that amount.
Hopefully, it just won't become an issue. =20
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
IMO, we have completed a transaction at this point. He offered the item, I
offered a price and he accepted both it and the terms. I invite anyone who
disagrees with that to write me and explain how I could be incorrect. But
there's more:
I got this email shortly after the last one:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> I'm sorry to do this, but it seems that the Scanlen set is in demand=20
>more so than I thought. I have to retract my previous offer to sell for=20
>150.00. Lynne has also inquired about the set and is also very interested=
in=20
>it. What I can do is this: If you decide to bid on it and win, I'll do=20
>payments on the bid price if necessary. LMK, and again, I'm sorry.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
To me, it seems that I'm being offered an opportunity to bid higher on an
item I already bought, no? =20
Here's what I said in response:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Not interested for a couple of reasons:
1) I won't bid against Lynne. I've bid on eBay a couple of times against
friends and it made me uncomfortable. This is a hobby, not a career. I
don't need the stress.
2) I thought we had a deal and don't feel I should have to "reaquire" what
we had already agreed on. Of course, there's nothing stopping you from
selling them elsewhere, but I already did all my homework and financial
planning in order to earn these cards, so I'm just not prepared to do
anything else.
I would appreciate your telling me how it is that Lynne offered to buy them
if she already knew I was buying them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
And all he had to say in return was "Sorry you feel that way" or words to
that effect. No reply to my question about how it was that Lynne would
have offered to buy them knoiwing that I was buying them. I know Lynne
pretty well and I doubt VERY MUCH that she would have tried to make him
kill a deal already in progress.
I guess wehat I'm trying to say, here, is that, in any future dealings you
might have with Brian Bowers, don't assume you bought merchandise from him
until it's in your hands.
LLAP,
Vince
STQuote #672 - "Molly home."=20
-- Molly O'Brien, age 18. DS9 "Time's Orphan, stardate not given.
STQ# 461 -There are times when I long for a Klingon woman. =FE Worf
STQ# 1 - "Kirk is alive. Deal with it." -- Me, but I stole it.
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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 07:16:58 -0400
From: Vince Maiocco <vmaiocco@voicenet.com>
Subject: (TrekTrade) Another seller alert
Well, I guess I went a very long time without having any problems. Now,
the odds are catching up to me. I want to alert everyone to another
possible fraudulent seller of TREK items.
His name is Kevin Kuenkler and he has had items on Lynne's auction in the
past. Let me be clear about this: this is the first such instance of such
a thing on Lynne's auction; it has simply never happened before.
I'm gonna repeat that for those who only skim-read their emails:
this is the first such instance of such a thing on Lynne's auction; it has
simply never happened before.
I bid on and won several items from Kevin Kuenkler on Lynne's auction (2
different groups of items on different dates). I mailed out payment and,
after approx 6 weeks (2 months on the first group), I had received nothing,
so I eMailed him, asking when they went out. No Reply! I repeated the
eMail once or twice and eventually eMailed Lynne, asking if she could
contact him. She did and he replied that the stuff went out. Apparently,
he made the same claim about stuff won by 2 other bidders who also had not
received their items. Lynne gave him my contact info and asked him to
contact me. He said he would. He has not done so. I wrote him one more
time and haven't heard back to this date.
Watch out for this guy:
Kevin Kuenkler
8005 N. Ramsey Rd.
Coeur d'Alene, ID 83815
kckink@webtv.net
work: Bookcase
Booksearch, (208) 762-5147 Mon-Sat 10-6 PDT
LLAP,
Vince
STQuote #672 - "Molly home."=20
-- Molly O'Brien, age 18. DS9 "Time's Orphan, stardate not given.
STQ# 461 -There are times when I long for a Klingon woman. =FE Worf
STQ# 1 - "Kirk is alive. Deal with it." -- Me, but I stole it.
visit my website http://www.voicenet.com/~vmaiocco/index.html
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