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rubberstampers Digest      Monday, 17 February 1997      Volume 02 : Number 296

In this issue:

    Re: A charge to cash in Money Orders???
    Stampeeze info to all (long)
    Re: A charge to cash in Money Orders???
    A charge to cash in Money Orders???
    RS Vendor Question
    Re: Swap postage concern
    Aleenes/PERGAMANO TODAY
    Aleenes/PERGAMANO TODAY
    Re: RS: Pergamano
    Re: Neuteress of The Night
    JILLIEBEAN Re: Newbie Card RR Group#2
    Re: RS:  Pergamano - Where can you see this?
    RE: RS:Pergamano & Parchment
    MAGNET SWAP UPDATE
    Re: RS: Make Own Copy of Swap Cards?
    TRACEY IS BACK
    [none]
    Beach/Sea SWAP
    RS: Adhesives For Fun Foam
    A Card from Giggles and Grins!!!

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From: valobra <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 00:15:15 -0700 (MST)
Subject: Re: A charge to cash in Money Orders???

It  really depends on where and how you cash the money order.  If  you
deposit in your acct there should be no charge.  But  more  and more
banks are charging  for  each and every transactions made.  So it has
come to now mean depending on what  kind of acct you have at your bank.
Etc..   Also if you cash money order or checks at currecy exchange there
is a charge per check  depdning on how much a percentage as well.

Money order is still the safest and easiest way to go.  here i found a
place where i can buy money order for only 20 cents each where back in
Illinois  sometimes im charged as much as 3.00 each money order...

Since I  moved I have not yet found a bank i am happy with.   It is now
just too expensive  to even have a checkingacct.    Not that I am broke
or  anything  but I  just find it riduculous to  have  to pay for  each
check i write, each  deposit i make and if i am under the limit then i
am  chargedridiculously for not having over a certain  amount in my
checking acct.   Just too  ridiculous.

Anyway to answer your question....  If you just depsoit the money order
there really shouldnt be any charge.

valobra DaMadStamper

On Sun, 16 Feb 1997, gmork wrote:

> Hi everyone!!
>
> I'm a Canadian and when I need to send postage/money to people out of
> Canada I always use money orders bought from my bank. Even if I'm just
> sending a dollar I use a MO. I have a special account so I don't have to
> pay the $3.50 surcharge for a money order. Of course this works great
> for me - BUT I found out tonight that you have to pay to cash in a money
> order. I can't believe this. (maybe we as Canadians do to but I have
> never received one) Do any of you get around this? And how? I've sent
> out money orders for very minimal amounts - are you guys paying to cash
> these?
> I hope to get some responses and maybe some solutions for this money
> problem. And to all of you that have received money orders from me and
> you've had to pay to cash them I apologize!!
> Glenyce
>

                 -*valobra*-
                            e-mail address: [e-mail]
                            MOTD:  priority in my life.... Friends.


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From: [e-mail]
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 22:02:11 -0800
Subject: Stampeeze info to all (long)


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From: valobra <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 00:15:15 -0700 (MST)
Subject: Re: A charge to cash in Money Orders???

It  really depends on where and how you cash the money order.  If  you
deposit in your acct there should be no charge.  But  more  and more
banks are charging  for  each and every transactions made.  So it has
come to now mean depending on what  kind of acct you have at your bank.
Etc..   Also if you cash money order or checks at currecy exchange there
is a charge per check  depdning on how much a percentage as well.

Money order is still the safest and easiest way to go.  here i found a
place where i can buy money order for only 20 cents each where back in
Illinois  sometimes im charged as much as 3.00 each money order...

Since I  moved I have not yet found a bank i am happy with.   It is now
just too expensive  to even have a checkingacct.    Not that I am broke
or  anything  but I  just find it riduculous to  have  to pay for  each
check i write, each  deposit i make and if i am under the limit then i
am  chargedridiculously for not having over a certain  amount in my
checking acct.   Just too  ridiculous.

Anyway to answer your question....  If you just depsoit the money order
there really shouldnt be any charge.

valobra DaMadStamper

On Sun, 16 Feb 1997, gmork wrote:

> Hi everyone!!
>
> I'm a Canadian and when I need to send postage/money to people out of
> Canada I always use money orders bought from my bank. Even if I'm just
> sending a dollar I use a MO. I have a special account so I don't have to
> pay the $3.50 surcharge for a money order. Of course this works great
> for me - BUT I found out tonight that you have to pay to cash in a money
> order. I can't believe this. (maybe we as Canadians do to but I have
> never received one) Do any of you get around this? And how? I've sent
> out money orders for very minimal amounts - are you guys paying to cash
> these?
> I hope to get some responses and maybe some solutions for this money
> problem. And to all of you that have received money orders from me and
> you've had to pay to cash them I apologize!!
> Glenyce
>

                 -*valobra*-
                            e-mail address: [e-mail]
                            MOTD:  priority in my life.... Friends.


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From: gmork <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 22:44:11 -0700
Subject: A charge to cash in Money Orders???


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From: [e-mail] (Paula Jo Green)
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 01:52:38 EST
Subject: RS Vendor Question

<<< No Message Collected >>>

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From: Darlene Sybert <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 01:23:16 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: Swap postage concern

Hi, Julie,
In spite of my great respect for Debbie Frank, I disagree with her
about the postage.  The first few swaps I did, I asked for $1. postage
because that was the most I had ever paid to mail the simple cards I made.
But i discovered that some of the packages cost me $1.24 to mail.

And postage is not the only expense I incurred.
Sometimes I could mail the cards back in the same envelopes I received
them in, but sometimes I couldn't. Sometimes people didn't send a mailing
label or mail their cards in a plastic bag.  I found that it was important
to mail the cards back in a plastic bag to avoid water damage in winter
weather especially.

Remember that the more people who participate in your swap, the more
these expenses will add up.  After 2-3 swaps, I began to ask for
$1.50.  After a few more, I decided that the next one I host, I will ask
for $2.  If you watch the swap announcements, you'll see that's not
an unusual amount.

I think it is better to send a little more money to be certain the
hostess has enough to mail all the envelopes back--not just mine.
I want to be certain she doesn't lose money on the swap, so she'll
be willing to host another.

Darlene Sybert vsa
http://www.missouri.edu/~engds/index.html
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The everlasting universe of things
Flows through the mind, and rolls its rapid waves,
Now dark--now glittering--now reflecting gloom--
Now lending splendour, where from secret springs
The source of human thought its tribute brings...
                    -Shelley, PB   "Mont Blanc"
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From: Robin Swaby <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 01:09:46 -0500
Subject: Aleenes/PERGAMANO TODAY


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From: Robin Swaby <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 01:09:46 -0500
Subject: Aleenes/PERGAMANO TODAY

If you are at all interested in the PERGAMANO parchment craft, the
segment today (Feb 17) on Aleenes is "supposed" to be a decorative
border  in PERGAMANO. If anyone sees it would you let me know how it
was.
Robin -nibor

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From: valobra <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 00:39:58 -0700 (MST)
Subject: Re: RS: Pergamano

yes  you could   the effect would be different...

Pergamano is very similiar to dry embossing on vellum paper.   With
Pergamano you use parchment but I have taken pergamano class  using
vellum paper..   I do NOT like using inks white or colored.  I have used
Pergamano wax pencils but it takes getting used to.   Its a whole
different technique.

I am not too crazy about Pergamano.

valobra DaMadStamper

On Sun, 16 Feb
1997 [e-mail] wrote:

> In a message dated 97-02-16 13:16:23 EST, [e-mail] (Sue A Bell)
> writes:
>
> << 2.   Lay the parchment paper over the design and trace the pattern with
>  the white ink.  Or  you could just emboss with white pad or white
>  embossing powder, BUT this does have a      tendency to flake off, I've
>  found.  >>
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>O<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<,
>
> Could you use a sharp white Berol?  Or is there some reason it has to be ink?
>
> Feathers
>

                 -*valobra*-
                            e-mail address: [e-mail]
                            MOTD:  priority in my life.... Friends.


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From: [e-mail] (Karen N Glover)
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 21:09:03 PST
Subject: Re: Neuteress of The Night

<<< No Message Collected >>>

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From: "DONNA GRADY" <[e-mail]>
Date: 16 Feb 97 21:45:58 -0800
Subject: JILLIEBEAN Re: Newbie Card RR Group#2


Hi Jilliebean,
The package will be mailed on Tuesday - Monday being a holiday and all. It's
on it's way to you so be on the lookout.
I took out 4 and replaced it with 4 cards. They were all great! Love seeing so
many different techniques.
I will try to describe the ones I took out - here goes:

1) Sunflower card by Susan Sproc: Marigold card stock layered with a sunflower
ribbon on the left side; layered with black paper and then on top with white
mulberry paper stamped with a sunflower right on the mulberry paper (gee,
never thought of doing that). Seems like it was colored in with chalks but not
sure. Then she stamped just the sunflower part of the flower on tissue paper
and colored it in and mounted it with mounting tape on top of the sunflower
that was stamped on the mulberry paper. Great effect Susan!

2) Reindeer Bear by Lori Stine: Beige cardstock; layered with red card stock;
then layered with green card stock which was put through a corrugator; then
the image stamped on white card stock and layered on top. She put a gold
ribbon with a little bell around the reindeers neck like necklace (so cute).
Then she weaved a piece of cord all around the front of the card. Such a great
idea Lori.

3) DJ Inkers Happy Birthday card from Lori Stine: White cardstock with images
from DJ Inkers ( I believe) a dog and turtle; sun and clouds. The really neat
thing about this card is that she used a piece of brown stock - corrugated and
cut at the top with fancey edger scissors (maybe pinking or mountain edgers)
to make this piece of brown paper look like a fence. Cool Lori.

4) Purple Happy Birthday card from Bonnie Lass: Really pretty heart stamp
(PSX?) ounted on lilac card stock. Heart middle cut out to reveal a Happy
Birthday word stamp. Card was edged with purple to border it and very sparkly
- - Bonnie please email me and tell me how you did this. I'm stumped. A
beautiful card!

I loved them all.

Donna

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From: "DONNA GRADY" <[e-mail]>
Date: 16 Feb 97 22:18:03 -0800
Subject: Re: RS:  Pergamano - Where can you see this?

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With all this talk of Pergamano - where can you find this to see it. I have
never seen this before although I have heard people talk about it on the list
and off. Is there a web site to view? I have never seen this in my stamp
stores. Anyone have an idea where one can get ahold of this to look at.
TIA,
Donna


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Date: 16 Feb 97 11:07:02
From:"[e-mail] (Sue A Bell)" <[e-mail]>
To:[e-mail]
Subject:Re: RS:  Pergamano
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>Does anyone have any information to share about this.  I know next to
nothing about it other >than a lovely and lacey looking card example I
saw a  long time ago with this done to the vellum.

We are carrying Pergamano in our store now.  It is really fun to work
with.  If you can find any heavy parchment paper (like drafter's
vellum), you can easily recreate the Pergamano look.
All you need is the paper, a thin line pen (like the old time quill and
ink pens), white ink,  and a stylus.

1.  Stamp your design on a sheet of white paper.

2.   Lay the parchment paper over the design and trace the pattern with
the white ink.  Or  you could just emboss with white pad or white
embossing powder, BUT this does have a      tendency to flake off, I've
found.

3.  Then turn your paper over and  dry emboss the open areas of your
design, or trace around      the outside lines giving a definite look to
the tracing.  Pergamano sells a felt pad which comes in the beginner's
kit and they also sell a heavier pad which has a sort of vinyl look to
one side.  I think a  mouse pad or cutting board would work just as
well. (haven't tried this, so I'm not exactly sure. <G>

Pergamano sells chalks that can be used on the underside of the paper to
give a pastel look.  I was rather unhappy with the way these left
streaks, so I have just used markers to color with.  Pergamano also
sells inks that can be used to color in your designs.  These work almost
like glass paints.

One of the Pergamano tools that I have not been able to duplicate with
supplies I already have on hand are the needle punches.  These are two
or four small needles that will perforate your paper.  With the two
needle tool you can go around the outside of your design punching holes
- - you insert the second needle into the hole left by the first punch,
thereby getting EXACT punches.  You can then "tear" the parchment away
and this leaves a very beautiful lacey look.
The four needle punch gives a very unique design when used in combination
with an embossed circle inbetween.  Sort of like  X's and O's.  <G>
Hope this helps.

StampCrazy


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From: Barbara Holl <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 22:08:40 -0800 (PST)
Subject: RE: RS:Pergamano & Parchment


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From: Jane Sifsof <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 22:54:09 -0900
Subject: MAGNET SWAP UPDATE

The magnets are all packaged up and ready to be put in the mail.  The post office is
closed tommorrow so they will be in the mail on Tuesday.  Sorry for the delay...was
waiting on some magnets.  Thanks all for participating.  It was fun.

Jane Sifsof

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From: [e-mail]
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 16:08:13 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: RS: Make Own Copy of Swap Cards?

In a message dated 97-02-16 12:31:56 EST, you write:

<<
         Hi all,
         Just wondering.. does everyone make themselves a copy of each swap
 card they make?  Being a newbie and just getting brave enough to enter
 swaps, I'm not sure if I can do this.  It takes me long enough to do one
 card!  If you don't make yourself a copy, do you just write down exactly how
 you made the card?  Any input would be greatly appeciated.  You can e-mail
 privately or if you think other newbies would benefit from the info, please
 post to the list.  Thanks!!
 Vicki (CajunStamper)
 [e-mail]
  >>


Hi

I make an extra card for my files.

Debbie B
Lady [e-mail]

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From: tracey carr <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 08:49:43 -0800
Subject: TRACEY IS BACK

Hi everyone,

I'm back, I have had my tests and everything is fine.  I have been given
the ALL CLEAR.......  YIIIPPPPPEEEEEEE.......

Thanks to everyone for their support thru this.

I have got a bit behind on the Wish Lists but they will all be sorted
this week, so if you have requested one, watch your mail.

In celebration of my results I will be offering new grabbags, those on
the E-Mailing list will have first choice of this special, then it will
be posted to the list.

Thanks again to everyone for the prayers and kind thoughts.

Hugs

Tracey
- --
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Tracey Carr  -  InkerDinker

[e-mail]
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


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From: [e-mail]
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 02:15:34 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [none]


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From: "Marianne Anderson" <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 00:13:57 -0700
Subject: Beach/Sea SWAP

Ooops!  I guess I deleted the info about the beach/seashore swap I read
about in the last few days.  If it's not full, I would like to read the
info again, and then could decide if I wanted to join in.  I don't think
it's the seashell swap that I'm reading about today.  Anyone out there have
that info?
Rubberrannie
[e-mail]

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From: Shannon Green <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 14:59:37 -0600
Subject: RS: Adhesives For Fun Foam

Darn.  I just realized that I forgot to put RS in the subject line on my
message about the Clearsnap color charts.  Sowwy!

Again...I saw this thread a couple of days ago and deleted all the
information that was shared so I'm probably repeating someone else's post.
Oh, well...I can always claim that great minds think alike.

Since hearing a lot about fun foam lately, I've been playing with it and
I've found that the adhesive I like best for it is Dryline Permanent
adhesive found at office supply stores.  It goes on smoothly to the fun
foam and sticks it down firmly and immediately...no drying time.  And
Dryline never buckles your paper which is important to me since I layer
like a mad woman.  Dryline is by far my favorite adhesive for just about
everything.  A little pricey, but worth it.  I've tried the Tombow adhesive
that's similar to Dryline, but I don't like it as well.  It tends to just
peel the back layer off of some of my exotic handmade papers.

Shannon


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Grow your own dope........plant a man.

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From: Bonnie Linhart <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 10:02:44 -0800
Subject: A Card from Giggles and Grins!!!

Thank you, Linda!! You are an angel!  But, what are you doing spending
your money on postage?  Bless your heart!  I was so thrilled when I saw
the envelope with the little girl on it- handmade envy.  So cute!  I
wanted to tear into it, but had to wait to get my letter opener, so I
wouldn't mess it up!  That card will go on my wall by my desk to remind
to pray for you.  I love your card!  Tee hee, ha ha, giggle, giggle to
you!!  You are an inspiration to all of us!!!
LOL
Bonnie Lass
PS  When I told my children just now about your card, they said, "let me
see! let me see!"  Do they love ya or what?
- --
Bonnie "Lass" Linhart
Lass Creations
6339 Ventura Lane
Central Point,  OR  97502-9355

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