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port-charles-digest        Sunday, May 31 1998        Volume 01 : Number 048




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Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 15:53:09 -0400
From: "Julie E. Saker" <[e-mail]>
Subject: GH/PC: oh...my...god..........

okay, now i know there are HORDES of people who disagree
with me, but i just have to say it....

yesterday.

sonny and brenda.

ten seconds, two words, and two looks...

AND THAT'S ALL IT TOOK!!!!

but seriously--when they looked into each other's eyes?  i could
FEEL the chemistry, all over again.  i could physically feel it.
AMAZING.

i know, i know, it's not gonna happen.  and i know, brenda's been
beyond unbearable lately.  (lately?  try the past few years...)  and =

even more, i know there's no WAY renaldo, or pete, or whoever, =

would have let brenda into the penthouse in the first place.  but
i'm willing to overlook all of that (or at least i was, for that one
brief shining s&b moment) and THAT is the magic of sonny and
brenda!  :)

(for real...am i just HOPELESS, or did anyone else out there
feel it, too?  it was like a tingling, butterflies-in-my-stomach type
feeling, as soon as they looked into each other's eyes.  sick,
huh?  :)

julie

p.s.  could we really be this lucky?  is kat gonna die?!?!?  <sigh>
probably not...  =


p.s.s.  seems to me if they took the wardrobe/dancing lessons budget
from the bacchanalia, we could have had one AMAZING location
shoot...

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Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 15:59:03 -0700 (PDT)
From: Geri Fosseen <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: oh...my...god..........

Hi all...

Well, my last spoilers went over like a lead bomb, but still I'll
shoot off one more in response to something Julie asked... :)

- ---"Julie E. Saker" <[e-mail]> wrote:

> p.s.  could we really be this lucky?  is kat gonna die?!?!?  <sigh>
> probably not...

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So, in the latest Soap Opera Digest there is this bizarre comment from
Guza, "Katherine is dead, but all that's happening is the character is
dying," hints Guza ominously. "That does not mean anything more than
the character is dying."

I'm sorry, I've always assumed I had a pretty good grasp of the
English language but not when Guza talks!!!  What the %!#@#%!#$# does
that mean???  On NW Afternoon, someone speculated that Helena had
given Kat whatever Stefan had doped up Laura's mom with all those
years and that eventually she'd be back...but that doesn't track with
this bizarre statement from Guza.

Dunno....vedy, vedy confusing!!! :)

As for Brenda/Sonny/Jax, I was impressed with the Sonny and Brenda
scene, and I was most pleased with two things - for once, Jax didn't
go running after Brenda when he figured out where she was, and two,
Brenda told him the truth.  What a refreshing change!  Almost like
grown-ups! LOL!!!  Also, Sonny telling Jason what had happened was
very poignant.  I agree with Julie on suspending disbelief - not only
would Renaldo NEVER have let her in, but come on, if you were in
hiding, would you answer the cotton-pickin' phone?!?!?!?!  Puh-leeze!
;~)

That's all I've got....

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Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 22:56:46 -0600
From: Rebecca <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: oh...my...god..........

Julie E. Saker wrote:
>
> okay, now i know there are HORDES of people who disagree
> with me, but i just have to say it....
>
> yesterday.
>
> sonny and brenda.
>
> ten seconds, two words, and two looks...
>
> AND THAT'S ALL IT TOOK!!!!
>
> but seriously--when they looked into each other's eyes?  i could
> FEEL the chemistry, all over again.  i could physically feel it.
> AMAZING.
>
    Julie, I for one agree- they do have amazing chemistry.  I look at it
from maybe a different point of view-- I sorta lived the Swiss Cheese
version of S&B- full of holes from sporadic viewing.  I was really sad
when Lily died, for example.  And boy that did NOT go over well with
most people I knew watching it at that time.  But these scenes today
were exceptionally well done and I was very emotionally involved, which
is a huge credit to the actors, as I was *not* entirely involved as the
story was originally unfolding.  Of course, Maurice Bernard has me
transfixed simply by being on the screen, so I am willing to concede
that may have something to do with it. :)  I really thought these scenes
were beautifully done though.  I also give big kudos to Tyler
Christopher for doing a crying scene which was, IMHO, believable and not
at all snarky or sappy or painful to watch.  I loved the understatement
of it.  The whole dichotomy of today's show was especially evident in
that scene, where Nik is crying on his uncle's shoulder while Alexis
looks on in horror as she realizes just what she has helped do.  As
well, the contrast between S&B vs. S&J was clearly evident (although I
am not a Jax fan, there I've said it!, I liked the honesty as well
between the characters).  Stefan's living statue routine gets to me a
little, and I felt that again today.  But Jason being supportive, gotta
love that, and the joking between he and Robin of the Glass Slipper was
especially cute.  Everything in this ep seemed in direct opposition to
something else and I liked that.  Except for the whole Alan thing-- they
may as well have not existed today in this world for all I cared.  Well,
here is my $2.00. Thoughts?

            Rebecca



>
>

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Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 09:32:58 -0400
From: "Julie E. Saker" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: oh...my...god..........

Message text written by INTERNET:[e-mail]

> p.s.  could we really be this lucky?  is kat gonna die?!?!?  <sigh>
> probably not...  =

>
>S
>P
>O
>I
>L
>E
>R
>S
>P
>A
>C
>E
>H
>E
>R
>E
>So, in the latest Soap Opera Digest there is this bizarre comment from
>Guza, "Katherine is dead, but all that's happening is the character is
>dying," hints Guza ominously. "That does not mean anything more than
>the character is dying."

oh lord.  you're right--the man DOESN'T speak english!  :)

but i'll throw in my speculation, which i DESPERATELY hope is wrong.  in
true soap opera form, that could mean one of two things--katherine is
dying,
but mary beth evans (is that her name?) is staying as someone else (can =

we say "long lost twin?"  GAG!)  OR....katherine is dying, and mary beth
evans
is staying as a ghost, or a portrait, or whatever.  (double gag!)  rememb=
er
when
edward disappeared and lila talked to that stupid portrait for YEARS...an=
d
it
talked back?!?  other than that...i haven't  a CLUE what the man could
mean...

also, i apologize for the double-post earlier--haven't the foggiest clue
how
that happened.  guess i was just over-excited!  :)

(i haven't seen yesterday's ep yet, so i can't comment on the s&b scene..=
=2E)

julie

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Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 20:20:17 -0700
From: Taiyin <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: A question and then some comments--

At 11:19 PM 5/21/98 -0600, Rebecca wrote:
>don't want to be crude or anything, but I understood from the GH
>anniversary special that she had a mastectomy?  It just didn't look like
>it from that dress she was wearing today-- did I get the wrong
>impression?  I wasn't watching GH at that time--

It just occured to me:  I don't remember seeing an answer to this question.

Yes, Monica did have a masectomy.  And then about six month or so later she
had reconstructive surgery.

>and Robin--and as for Sonny- I forgot how much he added to the show-

Oh man, you're not kidding there!

>love the relationship between he and Jason-- they have such great
>chemistry together.  And Sonny comes back from who knows where and
>proceeds to make lunch- too cool!

Heh heh heh.  That's cuz Sonny-boy is a food snob and would rather have his
fingernails removed with pliars than eat cold, leftover pizza.  Yet one
more reason I love that man. :-)

>Christophori's Dream-- (the Kat and Bat music)  I am getting sick of
>it-- can we please have something else???

Like Kat having a breakdown and then falling over a balcony?

>Lucky and Liz-- what I like about them is that I am enough of an adult
>to see where Audrey would be upset, but enough a kid to see how much Liz
>needed him there and see their side of things-- I like that I don't feel
>one or the other is completely correct--and they are just too cute,

Well, I can see why Audrey would be upset about being lied to and I can
understand her not approving, but they way she keeps trying to herd Liz
into some sort of denial and avoidance about her rape is really
infuriating.  And so, for me, Audrey's total lack of acknowledgement that
Lucky is the only person that can make Lizzie feel safe is a major sore point.

I don't have too much empathy with Audrey these days.

>Venus-- she practically jumps off the screen she has so much presence--
>why oh why doens't she have anything to do???

I don't know, but one of my ABSOLUTE favorite moments of the ball last week
was Ned catching her pulling up her skirt.  Cracked me up.  She is one of
the absolute best things about the show, and I wish they'd use her.

>Thanks for keeping with me this far- hope no one's asleep yet :)

No chance.  There is nothing I love more than lots of conversation. <g>

Taiyin
TONY: "I think the high point for me was when he did the tango
with my wife in front of half of Port Charles and I punched his lights
out."  KEVIN: "And that's what I would classify as a healthy response.
LUKE: Spoken like a true shrink."  KEVIN: "No, spoken like a man
who's thrown a few of his own healthy responses lately."

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Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 13:16:46 -0400
From: "Julie E. Saker" <[e-mail]>
Subject: GH/PC: i can't believe i'm saying this...

okay, you guys better sit down for this one, because i for one
can't believe i'm going to say this, but...i was WRONG, WRONG,
WRONG!!!  i'm sorry, mr. guza, for doubting you, and for getting
you confused with your completely incompetent predecessors.
i was blinded by the travesty they created, and had NO faith
in your ability to right past wrongs...and i was wrong.

i finally got to watch tuesday's ep last night, with the sonny/brenda
scene--and, even though i anticipated hating it LOOOOONG before
i watched it, and had my teeth clenched against the inevitable as
the episode started...guza came through!  it was amazing!  specifically..=
=2E

brenda.  thank god--where has that girl been hiding for the past =

three or four years?!?  she did it.  she said what needed to be said,
she did what needed to be done, and she stood her ground while
doing it.  i was SHOCKED.  in fact (and i REALLY can't believe i'm
saying THIS) i think vanessa marcil did a better job than maurice
in those scenes.  she made it abundantly clear that doing the wrong
thing is ALWAYS wrong, even if it's done for the right reasons, and
she told sonny WHY.  she told him that the ends don't justify the means
when it comes to hurting someone you love.  and yet, she also
acknowledged that despite sonny's boneheaded departure, she
could never hate him.  (i WAS a little disappointed that she didn't
go as far as he eventually did, in admitting she'd always love him,
but i'll take what i can get at this point).  and, even more miraculous,
when he kissed her, SHE was the one who pulled away.  BEAUTIFUL.

sonny--his EYES.  he didn't say much, and what he did say was a
bit too glib most of the time, for my taste, but his eyes said it all.  h=
e
really HEARD brenda, and understood what she was saying.  for
the first time, he really understood what he did to her when he left,
which was something he desperately needed to see.  and even
better, he was ASHAMED by what he did...as he should be.  i wish he =

could have opened up a bit more with brenda, as he eventually did
with jason, but again...i'll take what i can get.  also, i was happy he
finally told brenda the truth--even if it still wasn't the WHOLE truth
(In my opinion, he should have told her about the guy who was =

threatening her, in addition to sharing the dream).  but it was a =

long-overdue explanation, and i'm glad he gave it.

now, not to say that some things didn't piss me off.  for example, =

brenda making a beeline for jax.  i would have been happier if
that part had been saved for the next episode.  but i understand
that it's the exact same thing that happened when jax and brenda
broke up the last time and brenda ran straight for sonny--of course,
i thought it was cruel (to the viewers) then, too, but...

also, i thought they were a little more dismissive of the s&b relationshi=
p
than i would have liked.  all the talk about how young brenda was
(while true) and how sometimes you don't want what makes you
happy, but what brings you the highest highs and the lowest lows
(while also true) seemed to me to have the effect of slightly invalidatin=
g
s&b's relationship...but at the same time i'm not furious about that, =

because overall i think they tried to do justice to it.  when sonny
was saying good-bye, and that he hoped she'd have all the things
he wanted to give her, love, and a life without fear, and she said
she had them but was still crying at the same time--that made me =

feel a little better about it all...that they were at least acknowledging=

the loss they were both experiencing.  all in all, i was VERY impressed.
given the constraints guza had to work with (being unable to undo =

the past, and not having them end up together) i think he did the
best he could in doing justice to s&b, and giving them the closure
they SOOOO didn't get last time around.  and while i'm still annoyed
by the concept of bringing sonny back solely to facilitate the j&b
relationship.....i didn't hate it.  and considering how SURE i was
that i would, that's high praise indeed!  :)

all that, and he killed kat, too?  can we nominate guza for sainthood?  :=
)

julie

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Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 01:00:41 -0600
From: Rebecca <[e-mail]>
Subject: GH/PC: Lucky/Liz-Where were they?

Question and possible spoiler, so...

a
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h
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k
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n

    In a spoiler page I read, it said that Lucky and Liz would get trapped
in a dept. store-- is that where they were today??  Because I didn't
know dept. kept water and gas on in their display depts.!  Also, the
spoilers said that they would do a little smoocheroo at the ball- I
missed a day- did this happen?  Thanks!


        Rebecca

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Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 10:39:15 -0400
From: "Julie E. Saker" <[e-mail]>
Subject: GH/PC: Lucky/Liz-Where were they?

Message text written by INTERNET:[e-mail]
>Question and possible spoiler, so...

a
b
c
d
e
f
g
h
i
j
k
l
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n

>       In a spoiler page I read, it said that Lucky and Liz would get
trapped
>in a dept. store-- is that where they were today??  Because I didn't
>know dept. kept water and gas on in their display depts.!  Also, the
>spoilers said that they would do a little smoocheroo at the ball- I
>missed a day- did this happen?  Thanks!

i didn't see them kiss, and i don't THINK i missed anything--although i h=
ad
heard a spoiler that they'd have a romantic time at the dance, or somethi=
ng
like that, which confused me  too because i wouldn't describe their scene=
s
together that way, yet.

as for where they are, i SINCERELY doubt it's a department store (for the=

reasons
you mentioned) but i was confused as to where they are too (and even more=
 =

confused about why they haven't MENTIONED where they are).  my first =

thought was that the set looked very familiar--i think it reminds me of t=
he
kitchen,
i assume at mac's house, from back when robin and stone were dating, and =
we
saw a lot of mac/robin fights there?  could be wrong though, since they
COULDN'T
be at mac's house.  anyone have a clue where they are...and why on earth,=

if =

they ARE in someone's house, they slept on benches in the kitchen rather
than
a couch or a bed somewhere???

julie

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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 17:58:12 -0700
From: [e-mail] (Lynda T Phan)
Subject: GH/PC: Cassadines

What is the relationship between Mikkos, Stavros, Helena, and Stefan?
Thanks in advance.

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