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Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 10:20:33 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Benjamin L. May" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) Area: One tour <WARNING :: RANT>

> Is anybody else getting sick and tired of Moby?  I mean really... we
> put up with him telling us meat is murder (I'm a vegetarian, so don't
> flame me about meat), and that god is the only way to go....and we put
> up with him playing rock and roll, but now??? what's going on here?

    I wanted to second this. But first! Preface! :)

    So I started listening to moby when I was in high school, like
1992/93 when he was doing things like Bring Back my Happyness. Borderline
cheesy house music with nice piano hooks and dope underground techno a-la
'go'... Then came the animals album and after that I think moby's head
disappeared up his arse. Did anyone read the interviews in which he ragged
on orbital (and has since apologized, Mr. Too-Little-Too-Late)? To say
nothing of his conversion to concert venues (along with the appropriate
price changes and crowd changes; can't dance when you're crushed against
4,000 people), I can only give the Its Hard to Let You Go genius so much
leighway.

    I also remember him preaching about how he never does drugs and
everyone who does is bad, then later I remember reading about him talking
about smoking pot at a show. Fucking hypocrite.

    O well.



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Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 11:44:27 -0400 (EDT)
From: laerm <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) Area: One tour <WARNING :: RANT>

On Tue, 1 May 2001, Benjamin L. May wrote:

>     I also remember him preaching about how he never does drugs and
> everyone who does is bad, then later I remember reading about him
> talking about smoking pot at a show. Fucking hypocrite.

he's also a big fan of cheeseburgers and groupies.

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Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 11:59:19 -0400
From: "</ x e n l a b >" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) Area: One tour <WARNING :: RANT>

: he's also a big fan of cheeseburgers and groupies.



                yeah, but who isn't ? :)


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Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 12:00:32 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Benjamin L. May" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) Area: One tour <WARNING :: RANT>

> : he's also a big fan of cheeseburgers and groupies.
>                 yeah, but who isn't ? :)

    HAH! This is possibly the most amusing thing I've seen in 3 weeks
at least.

    I think the point was the duality of his beliefs, not his
conversion to an oft-held viewpoint. :)



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Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 13:35:13 -0400
From: "</ x e n l a b >" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) Area: One tour <WARNING :: RANT>

: > : he's also a big fan of cheeseburgers and groupies.
: >                 yeah, but who isn't ? :)

: I think the point was the duality of his beliefs, not his
: conversion to an oft-held viewpoint. :)


        I know. And while Moby may be a hypocritical sell-out, I personally
lost respect in his Music, first... then i lost respect for his beliefs. The
thing about the area:one fest that gets me the most is the quote from Moby
[and i'm paraphrasing]: "The music i listen to doesn't get enough exposure,
so i figured i'd throw this festival..."

Now please correct me in this... but, when did Oakie not get enough
"exposure"? Since "the trance invasion" -- Paulie Girl has been a household
name!


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Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 12:40:29 -0500
From: Martin Wallace <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) moby

It would be sooooo funny if moby were a lurker on this list.



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Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 11:52:51 -0600
From: orbette <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) Area: One tour <WARNING :: RANT>

*Pointing at Moby*

Look, it still thinks it is 1992.

hee hee...




"" wrote:

> : > : he's also a big fan of cheeseburgers and groupies.
> : >                 yeah, but who isn't ? :)
>
> : I think the point was the duality of his beliefs, not his
> : conversion to an oft-held viewpoint. :)
>
>         I know. And while Moby may be a hypocritical sell-out, I personally
> lost respect in his Music, first... then i lost respect for his beliefs. The
> thing about the area:one fest that gets me the most is the quote from Moby
> [and i'm paraphrasing]: "The music i listen to doesn't get enough exposure,
> so i figured i'd throw this festival..."
>
> Now please correct me in this... but, when did Oakie not get enough
> "exposure"? Since "the trance invasion" -- Paulie Girl has been a household
> name!
>
> </ x e n l a b>



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Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 13:56:58 -0400
From: "Meredith, Justin" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orb) moby

i guess everyone is a mass of contridictions. deep down we all want to do
what we "think" is right - but on the other hand, it is fun to indulge and
live through different experiences. the only problem with Moby is that he
forms too many opinions quikly and is vocal about them - then he may see a
different point of view and change his mind...


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Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 14:03:46 -0400
From: "</ x e n l a b >" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) moby

: It would be sooooo funny if moby were a lurker on this list.


    Moby,

        Pass that cheesburger and the bong, please!
            We'll run a train on those groupies after lunch.

                 Your Pal,
                        .xenlab.




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Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 14:07:16 -0400
From: "</ x e n l a b >" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) OT: moby

: i guess everyone is a mass of contridictions. deep down we all want to do
: what we "think" is right - but on the other hand, it is fun to indulge and
: live through different experiences. the only problem with Moby is that he
: forms too many opinions quikly and is vocal about them - then he may see a
: different point of view and change his mind...


    Yet the next album he'll have a rant against that very same activity in
his linear notes. That, I believe, is my problem with him.

    And since we're on the subject of his music... Has anyone heard his
Voodoo Child side project? Very good minimal piano with Moby-esque hooks.
Probably his last solid musical release.


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Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 18:16:00 -0000
From: "Otis Brown" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [none]

hi everybody.  Otis Brown here; aka Otep 147.  I've just compiled some of my
older Orb remixes that I've done myself on my web site at
http://www.otep147.internetdj.com  Remixes include new versions of "Montagne
D'Or", "SALT", and "Slug Dub".  Please drop me some e-mail and let me know
what you think.
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Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 12:22:19 -0600
From: orbette <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) OT: moby

okay before this gets out of hand I will go on record as saying I appreciate the
fact that Moby has talent.  That is a given.  I don't know why I don' t like
him, I just don't never have.  Although I will admit I did listen to "Move" alot
when it came out.  That is about the only song of his I can handle.

'bette

"" wrote:

> : i guess everyone is a mass of contridictions. deep down we all want to do
> : what we "think" is right - but on the other hand, it is fun to indulge and
> : live through different experiences. the only problem with Moby is that he
> : forms too many opinions quikly and is vocal about them - then he may see a
> : different point of view and change his mind...
>
>     Yet the next album he'll have a rant against that very same activity in
> his linear notes. That, I believe, is my problem with him.
>
>     And since we're on the subject of his music... Has anyone heard his
> Voodoo Child side project? Very good minimal piano with Moby-esque hooks.
> Probably his last solid musical release.
>
> </ x e n l a b>
>
> : visual artist
> : web producer
> : www.thezenlab.com
>



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Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 13:47:36 -0500
From: John Goelzer <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) more Moby bashing

Have any of you ever seen this clown live? Like recently?

I saw him at a local club on his last two tours (both times "free" on a
two-drink voucher, that's how poorly the shows sold), and both times he
closed the show with this RIDICULOUS "primal scream" performance, basically
him standing on his keyboards and uttering this looooong, one-note shriek at
the sky or the gods or whatever a Moby howls at.

I can't for the life of me figure out how such a savvy* guy can not know how
utterly stupid he looks doing this. I don't know if I've ever seen a more
self-indulgent, self-aggrandizing act during a concert. Makes your average
N-Stync seem like the kings of modesty and the consummate showmen.

Also, might his "performance" on this tour simply consist of a long reel of
TV commercials, movie soundtracks and videogames? Why not just release his
next single straight to a commercial, know what I mean?

And don't get me started on the evils of an Intel sponsorship... <shudder>

JG

* "savvy" does not NECESSARILY mean "talented"


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Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 15:00:19 -0400
From: "Meredith, Justin" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orb) more Moby bashing

you know what just occured to me! why the hell are we wasting time talking
about Moby... especially on this list - common...





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Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 14:01:42 -0500
From: John Moxness <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orb) more Moby bashing

Have any of you ever seen this clown live? Like recently?

===>yes. twice.  first time to just check it out the second time to just
make sure i hadn't dreamt it.  what a sad performance it was.  i wondered if
any of his "band" actually played instruments - for real.  it looked like a
high school air band contest with a really great light show and killer
sound.  and what the heck was up with the dj spinbad??  what a joke!!!  i
felt embarrassed for electronic music after seeing moby.  the real sad part
was that people actually liked it.  my head in my hands.

john


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Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 15:08:51 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Benjamin L. May" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) more Moby bashing

> Have any of you ever seen this clown live? Like recently?

    Yeah I saw him @ the hammerstein ballroom in NYC (I HATE HATE HATE
that venue, but don't get me started on that...) about 5 or 6 months ago.
It was the same sort of Moby-stroking-my-ego sort of performance. At one
point he says "I've always wanted to play a 10 minute guitar solo at a
concert, so now I will" and he does. It wasn't even particularly good, and
all the other musicians just hung around waiting. He did live renditions
of his house tracks that sucked, and the last song was Thousand, during
which all the house lights were off except for about 30 colored flashing
lights and a spot light all focused on him during the entire song. Plus he
kind of held his arms up in a rapturous looking pose the whole time.

    Total slog.



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Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 15:09:46 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Benjamin L. May" <[e-mail]>
Subject: discussion control, was RE: (orb) more Moby bashing

    Why not? :) I mean, its more entertaining to me than the dead air
that usually occupies the orb mailing list. :)

> you know what just occured to me! why the hell are we wasting time talking
> about Moby... especially on this list - common...



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Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 15:20:52 -0400 (EDT)
From: laerm <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) OT: moby

On Tue, 1 May 2001, </ x e n l a b > wrote:

>     And since we're on the subject of his music... Has anyone heard
> his Voodoo Child side project? Very good minimal piano with Moby-esque
> hooks. Probably his last solid musical release.

voodoo child was typically his more acid-tecno side project of his old
days..._the end of everything_ is the only release in the style you
describe.

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Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 15:21:19 -0400
From: "Meredith, Justin" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) RE: discussion control

wo  man! i wasn't trying to control anything. i was just pointing out the
fact that we are talking about Moby. that to me is funny, since i have heard
better sh*t on public access. can you really take any muscian seriously when
he puts his picture on his album cover (at least i can't).

anyone can say what they want, i know i do! now those Backstreet Boys, man i
've heard some wicked beats in their music...

>    Why not? :) I mean, its more entertaining to me than
>the dead air
>that usually occupies the orb mailing list. :)
>
>> you know what just occured to me! why the hell are we
>wasting time talking
>> about Moby... especially on this list - common...


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Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 15:24:28 -0500
From: "Vince Frank" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) Moby

Why all the Moby bashing?  I actually kinda like the
guy.

Certainly better than all the drivel Madonna's been releasing
over the past, um, TWO DECADES.  A'hem....  ;-)
(Sorry--haven't really pissed anyone off lately, so I figured I'd
try again for old time's sake....)

Hey--does anyone know anything about the group
Global Dance Project???  I have two of their songs on two
separate compilations, but can't seem to find any albums
of theirs.  "Khrishnamurti Groove" and "Japanese Cherry
Blossoms" (or something like that) on two ambient groove
compilations.  (Journey Into Ambient Groove volumes 1 and
2.  I'm still looking for 3 if anyone has any extras....)

Later!

Vince



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Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 15:32:25 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Benjamin L. May" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) RE: discussion control

> anyone can say what they want, i know i do! now those Backstreet Boys, man i
> 've heard some wicked beats in their music...

    <hell freezes over>

    :)



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Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 15:34:13 -0400
From: "Meredith, Justin" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orb) RE: discussion control

yea i know, i started thinking about it and realized i had spoke to soon...

>Hey--there are actually LOTS of great artists whose faces have
>graced their album covers:
>--Peter Gabriel
>--Frank Zappa
>--The Beatles
>--Devo
>--Ozzy Osbourne/Black Sabbath
>--Donald Fagen
>--Johnny Cash


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Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 15:35:56 -0400
From: "Meredith, Justin" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orb) Moby

i guess everyone tends to do that when they speak their minds...

hey man, i like Madonna...

>(Sorry--haven't really pissed anyone off lately, so I figured I'd
>try again for old time's sake....)


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Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 15:37:13 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Benjamin L. May" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orb) RE: discussion control

> >Hey--there are actually LOTS of great artists whose faces have
> >graced their album covers:

    Lets not forget aphex twin! :)



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Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 15:42:11 -0400
From: "Meredith, Justin" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orb) RE: discussion control

he doesn't count  :)


>> >Hey--there are actually LOTS of great artists whose faces have
>> >graced their album covers:
>
>    Lets not forget aphex twin! :)


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Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 14:44:04 -0500
From: John Goelzer <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orb) RE: discussion control

>> Lets not forget aphex twin! :)

> he doesn't count  :)

Nor does he know the alphabet.

JG

PS - :)


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Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 21:57:21 +0200
From: Wouter Bessels <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) recordings of cydonia tour

Hi,

This might be off-topic, but if anyone knows if there are recordings
available from the current cydonia tour, please contact me off-list.

Thanks !
Wouter



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Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 16:59:15 -0400
From: "</ x e n l a b >" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) Ambient Groove

Alot of the stuff released on Ambient Groove is hard to find on CD
(elsewhere)... Alot of it's vinyl only or was only released on the comp. ...
I think there is an unreleased Fila track on Jouney into A.G. 4 or something
like that.


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Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 17:02:09 -0400
From: "</ x e n l a b >" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) Area: One tour <WARNING :: RANT>

: Maybe a top 40 band will sample the Orb, so they will get some airplay
too.

They've always gotten UK air play -- Top of the Pops Baby!

Besides, Oakie doesn't produce enough *cough*good*cough* music to get radio
play. the stuff he does produce isn't much of a hook to be considered Top
40... besides even fools who don't know the club scene know who oakenfold
is. him and van dyk have been shoved down Mtv Culture's throught enougt to
know.


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Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 16:56:49 -0400
From: "</ x e n l a b >" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) RE: discussion control

: can you really take any musician seriously when
: he puts his picture on his album cover (at least i can't).

That's a pretty poor qualifier...

Everyone of Aphex Twin's albums has his face on them... in one form or
another. He's obsessed with his face. Besides there are plenty others...
Kruder & Dorfmiester appear on at least 2 of their album covers, etc. etc.

However, I don't think anyone was coming down on you with any seriousness
about trying to deter the group from discussing Moby at length...

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Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 16:15:12 -0500
From: John Goelzer <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orb) RE: discussion control

> Kruder & Dorfmiester appear on at least 2
> of their album covers, etc. etc.

Yeah, but wasn't one of those ("G-Stoned EP") actually taking the piss out
of that old Simon & Garfunkel cover?

Check:

http://www.cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/SID=416612520/pagename=/RP/CDN/FIND/alb
um.html/artistid=SIMON+&+GARFUNKEL/itemid=317044

and then:

http://www.cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/SID=416612520/pagename=/RP/CDN/FIND/alb
um.html/artistid=KRUDER+&+DORFMEISTER/itemid=462337

So maybe they're actually mocking the concept of artist-photo covers? Not
that I'm personally down on them or anything...

JG


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Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 17:16:58 -0400
From: "Meredith, Justin" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orb) RE: discussion control

yea, i know that was a bad example... he must have loads of teeny-boppers
following him :)

>That's a pretty poor qualifier...
>
>Everyone of Aphex Twin's albums has his face on them... in one form or
>another. He's obsessed with his face.


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Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 17:19:25 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Benjamin L. May" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orb) RE: discussion control

> Yeah, but wasn't one of those ("G-Stoned EP") actually taking the piss out
> of that old Simon & Garfunkel cover?

    Yes. It was a parody. But they also had pix of themselves on their
other 2 albums. :)

> So maybe they're actually mocking the concept of artist-photo covers? Not
> that I'm personally down on them or anything...

    Huh!? You don't like K&D?! They're amazing! I'm going to see them
this sunday...



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Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 16:22:43 -0500
From: John Goelzer <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orb) RE: discussion control

> Huh!? You don't like K&D?! They're amazing!

No, I do like them. Lots. In fact, I'm playing Fuck Dub by Tosca as I type
this.

I was saying that I'm personally not against the concept of artist-photo
covers, but was just wondering about K&D's actual motives in doing that
cover that way.


> I'm going to see them this sunday...

Lucky!


JG


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Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 16:25:47 -0500 (CDT)
From: James Hill <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orb) more Moby bashing

Yeah, I felt *exactly* the same way.  However, the very worst part was
hearing Moby actually sing!  What the hell?  Moby going "MMM Lordy my
troubles with god" is like imagining LX singing lovin you' after you've
been used to Minnie for so long.  *shudder* or saying to the crowd "they
were long and clear and there were lots of starts at night" a la rickie
lee jones (or whoever i dont want to start that debate i hit 'delete'
enough times a day from the orb list :)


On Tue, 1 May 2001, John Moxness wrote:
>
> Have any of you ever seen this clown live? Like recently?
>
> ===>yes. twice.  first time to just check it out the second time to just
> make sure i hadn't dreamt it.  what a sad performance it was.  i wondered if
> any of his "band" actually played instruments - for real.  it looked like a
> high school air band contest with a really great light show and killer
> sound.  and what the heck was up with the dj spinbad??  what a joke!!!  i
> felt embarrassed for electronic music after seeing moby.  the real sad part
> was that people actually liked it.  my head in my hands.
>
> john





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Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 15:30:06 -0600
From: orbette <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) Ambient Groove

That would be "Simple Man" by the Fila boyz, xen.

'bette

PS. K& D the G Stoned EP is their only official release, right?  Aren't the
other K&D titles compilations?

"" wrote:

> Alot of the stuff released on Ambient Groove is hard to find on CD
> (elsewhere)... Alot of it's vinyl only or was only released on the comp. ...
> I think there is an unreleased Fila track on Jouney into A.G. 4 or something
> like that.
>
> </ x e n l a b>
>
> : visual artist
> : web producer
> : www.thezenlab.com



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Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 17:31:31 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jeff <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) RE: discussion control

> : can you really take any musician seriously when
> : he puts his picture on his album cover (at least i can't).

Kraftwerk =P

- ----
Jeff

A Klein Bottle has zero volume, so we suggest that you do not use it as a
personal flotation device.



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Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 15:30:53 -0600
From: orbette <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) Ambient Groove

That would be "Simple Man" by the Fila boyz, xen.

'bette
(resident Pork Recordings nutter...and yes, I know,  they have their own label
now)

PS. K& D the G Stoned EP is their only official release, right?  Aren't the
other K&D titles compilations?

"" wrote:

> Alot of the stuff released on Ambient Groove is hard to find on CD
> (elsewhere)... Alot of it's vinyl only or was only released on the comp. ...
> I think there is an unreleased Fila track on Jouney into A.G. 4 or something
> like that.
>
> </ x e n l a b>
>
> : visual artist
> : web producer
> : www.thezenlab.com



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Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 16:34:44 -0500
From: John Goelzer <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orb) more Moby bashing

> However, the very worst part was hearing Moby
> actually sing!  What the hell?  Moby going
> "MMM Lordy my troubles with god" is like
> imagining LX singing lovin you' after you've
> been used to Minnie for so long.

If I'm not mistaken, the touring incarnation of the Art of Noise circa In
Visible Silence (i.e. J.J., Anne, Gary) used to "sing" or speak their
samples live, a very corny practice indeed...

JG


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Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 16:37:49 -0500
From: John Goelzer <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orb) Ambient Groove

> PS. K& D the G Stoned EP is their only official
> release, right?  Aren't the other K&D titles
> compilations?

Well there's the K&D Sessions remix album, which was a compilation but was
also an "official" album. Then, when sales of K&D Sessions really took off,
some label (Shadow?) reissued Conversions, an old mix album they'd done, to
ca$h in on their popularity.

And then there's the various side-project material, from Peace Orchestra and
the previously-mentioned Tosca...

But the short answer is yes, in that G-Stoned is the only "official" K&D
release with original tunes on it. When's the next one coming out???

JG


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Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 14:37:47 -0700
From: "-> rachel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) attitude adjustment

hey kids!

how about being grateful that you'll have a second chance to see our
beloved Orb?  i wouldn't care if the Orb were opening for the Backstreet
Boys, providing I'd get to see the lads do their thing!  (besides, Moby's
deal is going to be WAY more together than Coachella, and no one says you
have to watch his performance!)

BTW, caught Fatboy Slim last night with Darren Emerson (formerly from the
Underworld) who were both amazing and i highly recommend catching them if
you're able...

=)
rachel

- -> rachel
Migoto - Marvelous New Media Design
http://www.migoto.com
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Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 16:42:02 -0500
From: John Goelzer <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orb) attitude adjustment

> how about being grateful that you'll have a second
> chance to see our beloved Orb?  i wouldn't care if
> the Orb were opening for the Backstreet Boys,
> providing I'd get to see the lads do their thing!

Witchman told me that in addition to the Moby opening dates, the Orb would
do their own headlining swing back through the states (kinda like they did
on Orblivion), which makes it much, much easier for me to blow off this
Area:One mess. He specifically mentioned wanting to come back to Chicago and
play the Metro again.

Anyone figure out yet whether the Area:One thing is actual Orb Live or just
LX spinning?

JG


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Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 23:44:53 +0200
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (orb) Coachella - Zeebruge... and Moby

Amazing how history repeats itself.

1996 : Been in Zeebruge (Belgium) to see The Orb live on a festival.
The show lasts 20 minutes, the authorities shut down the speakers
(the group was the last one to perform). I wrote to the  Orb list how
sad I was. Andy Hughes writes me back privately :)
2001 : Rachel in Coachella... Same thing, except it's Simon who answers her...

And about the Moby thing : he's probably a prick, like most artists
(Ralf and Florian from Kraftwerk, Michael Jackson, Prince comes to my
mind). But some of his tracks are classic, but it's just my humble
opinion.

JCFromParis
- --

21th century invention by Donatella Versace : It would be the
Concorde flying to every airport in the world - and to make the
Concorde go faster...




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Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 18:06:24 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (orb) Area: One tour

whoawhoawhoa... the orb, juan atkins, derrik may, kevin saunderson AND paul
oakenfold?  thats insane!  well worth the 80-90 bucks i'd say...



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Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 16:19:25 -0600
From: "Meredith, Justin" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 18:19:20 -0400

looks like we'll be seeing more music festivals like ozzfest and lollapoloza
- - but for electronic music...

the Orb played lollapoloza when Prodigy and Tool headlined - they didn't
come to Phoenix, though. The Orb hate Arizona...




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Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 18:43:42 -0400
From: Andrew <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) more Moby bashing

I *think* i might have seen moby live in 1995 or 96 when I saw Bjork at the
Palace in New Haven, CT... this was my first ever exposure to live electronic
music and whoever was the opening act (which, I hope was Moby cuz i can't
stand that dork) had extremely terrible wannabe divas (with even worse
lyrics), and just gave me an embarrassing peek into the whole "rave" scene..
is there a site that lists artists' peformance dates and locations?? please
let it be moby - he just sucks so much ass!

- -andrew

ps- bjork, however, was awesome... the old-dude drummer totally rocked out. I
dunno why i never saw her during homogenic?? did she tour? I'm dumb!

"Benjamin L. May" wrote:




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Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 16:06:09 -0700
From: Ed <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orb) cheesburgers and groupies

 a big fan of cheeseburgers and groupies.


Could we make that Thai food and groupies?  Thank you!

FVLL


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Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 21:17:22 -0400
From: Justin Roby <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) RE: discussion control

You have no idea how much that happens to me.  "Great Beat!"  And then they
start singing.  :(
- --
Justin Roby

Original message:
> From: "Benjamin L. May" <[e-mail]>
> Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 15:32:25 -0400 (EDT)
> To: "'[e-mail]'" <[e-mail]>
> Subject: Re: (orb) RE: discussion control
>
>
>> anyone can say what they want, i know i do! now those Backstreet Boys, man i
>> 've heard some wicked beats in their music...
>
> <hell freezes over>
>
> :)



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