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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 15:24:03 -0400
From: Joe <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) favorite and least favorite

>
>
> My MOST favorite (and this is EVER not just of the Orb) would DEFINITELY be
> Blue Room, 40 min. version.  What a masterpiece!!
>
> Sarah
>

I second that, with orbvs coming in next.
I loved the version of Blue Room on UFORB and Live93 from the start, but i
almost wet myself when i first listened to the 40min version, its absolutely
amazing.  :)

thanks

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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 15:20:58 -0400
From: "*eric irving marden*" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) Collecting dust.

E O wrote:
> What is everybody's least favorite Orb piece?  For me it's the vocal
> versions of Perp. Dawn.  For some reason they make me cringe...

<>===<>I like the vocal versions... Not over the original, but especially
the first one (disc 1 uf off)
is pretty cool.  (litte Reagge with your Dub Martini, sir?)

As far as orblivion goes, It was in VERY heavy rotation when it first came
out. but Yes it has slacked off since. However the Toxygene (import 1&2 set)
singles Rock! I only have one but try to listen to it when i have the time
to change cds (usually at work, where i listen to a lot of my music)

I'm sorry to say That Orbvs is not in rotation as much as i'd like. I
scratched it pretty bad on my disc man trying to write down the lyrics to
Slvg Dvb. (Rewinding the CD 50 times to hear certain snipets over and over
again, fucked something up) And i don't know about you guys but I'd rather
buy Music i haven't heard yet then replace an old cd (Orvs was my first
Orb... I think i've told you guys how i lucked upon this blessed band,
right?)....

If anyone would like to Send me a CD-R of Orbvs Terravm I would be happy to
reimburse you with something in return. Email me privately... If not I guess
i will have to go out and buy it again ... Not that i wouldn't mind throwing
more money in LX and Co.'s pockets but like i said... I'd almost rather get
something new then walk out with a cd i know by heart back and forth and in
each of its multi demensional Layers....


BTW - Did anyone notice that there is an actual thread going on here? I'M SO
HAPPY.  With this list being slow, I've been forced to bicker with the
spammers on alt.music.orb  for fun....

Walk In Peace, Walk In Circles....

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And guys, with the OAA down for the count (maybe) Get your ORB MP3 fix at my
site.
There is only a few select mixes. But I figured i'd offer... The URL is
below. PLUR.
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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 15:20:04 -0400
From: "*eric irving marden*" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) least favorite

Vince blasphemed thusly:

> and I loathe Oxbow Lakes and Slug Dub....
Now Vince have you heard the (mostly) instrumental mix of Slvg Dvb (lettuce
mix)
If not, i have an MP3 of it at http://zap.to/zenlab
The children's bedtime story aside (which i constantly get off on still) the
soundz of that song are bomb!


> And am I the only one on this list who really hates Towers of Dub???
> (YES!  There, I said it, so don't bother....)  ;-)
Ha! that made me LOL!

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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 15:33:28 EDT
From: "dr. Digeridoo p.B.s" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) Collecting dust.

the perfect drug remix. Every song on that album is pretty bad




>>This is pretty close to something I was thinking about in the car today...
What is everybody's least favorite Orb piece?  For me it's the vocal
versions of Perp. Dawn.  For some reason they make me cringe...
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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 13:09:54 -0700 (MST)
From: reverend bluE <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orb) say kids

it's also used as an intro to a Snog (australian industrial group) song.

other samples used in that song include
"LSD"
"Propaganda"
"Mind Control"
"The CIA"
"Psychological Warfare"

etc... really hard beat driven (no guitar) stuff...
- -b



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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 17:50:06 -0400
From: "Gerneth" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) What's 'appenin'

I guess I'm what's called a newbie, so here's a bit about me.

I'm also what you call your visible minority, of the white-haired variety.
I mention this only because it places my current devotion to electronica in
a much wider musical context. My music of choice has always been jazz,
specifically the so-called ":modern jazz" that began in the 1940s (can you
believe that? 1940s--modern!). I also have a large "classical" collection
of mostly twentieth-century stuff.

My electronica interests have stabilized somewhat over the three or four
years that I've been collecting, and the range is now centred on people
such as Paul Schutze, Wolfgang Voigt (Gas), Thomas Koner, and others in
that style. I've been through most of the dance/trance/techno stuff, and I
still find it useful from time to time. Through all of the styles and
genres that form my now-extensive collection of electronica, The Orb
continues to be the most consistently interesting group I know of. Their
constant shifts of style and colour are unlike most others who feel the
need to stay close to a perceived signature sound. They also epitomize more
than most my view that the best of this music is "the new jazz". It has the
essentials of repeatability and re-interpretability, albeit only within
their own body of work. There ain't gonna be no "Boston Pops Plays The Orb
Songbook", though Sting may try something: he just has to be everywhere!
Apparently.

Enough of that. My enquiry is as follows.

I've looked at OAA and found it to be a bit lacking. I was onto the Mocker
site for a brief period before it went away, and I'm totally blown away by
the thought of being able to grab all those live gigs. This is where I find
The Orb to be at their most interesting in the changes they make to the
performances one is familiar with on the "standard" recording.

So: what is the rationale behind OAA? Is the Mocker site a different
entity? Is it true that Mocker is authorized to publish anything that is
not presently in print? If yes, why isn't it/he/she the Orb Authorized
Archive? And does anyone know if and when it/he/she will be back?

Good to be aboard.

Tarrah.


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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 17:21:44 -0700
From: lkjk ytryt <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) say kids

> Guess I'd better confirm this one since its from my childhood.  It is
> "Howdy Doody"

Edward

>
> >kael sez:
> >the deleted and extremely elusive first single by coldcut called
> >"say kids what time is it"
> >
> >as for where they got it from i think it may have been "howdy doody"...
> >Vince? or anyone else?
>
> I would presume it would be ren & stimpy, but coldcut's early stuff
> precedes that by a couple of years.. hmm...
>
> blaine
>
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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 23:20:17 -0400
From: Brad <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) favorite and least favorite

My three least favorite Orb trax are 3) Bedouin, 2) Molten Love, and
  1) Outlands.  I cant stand that song!!!  That annoying wailing at
the   beginning is horrible.
My three favorite Orb trax I really cant say for sure but I have to
recognize 3) Towers of Dub, 2) Spanish Castles in Space, and 1)
Plateau.  Almost too relaxing.

brad.


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Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 01:15:20 -0700 (PDT)
From: Gavin Miller <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) that like/dislike thread

Hello All. Here's my contribution:

Fave albums:
Live 93, Dipping Into The Cyberworld (does this count?)
Least played:
UF Off, Oxbow lakes
Current rotation:
Orblivion, Bomb Factory 4/27/97

Fave tracks:
Perpetual Dawn (Steve Lamaq 10/12/98), Towers Of Dub, Delta MK II (live
versions with lots of samples)

least faves:
Outlands (ABTUW), PI, practicly any edit version.

There.
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Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 10:20:52 +0200
From: Wouter Bessels <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) Re: favourite, Slvg Dvb

>> snip
>>(although I *do* like Alle Ist Schoen), and I loathe
>>Oxbow Lakes and Slug Dub.... And am I the only
>> snip
>Ack! :) Oxbow Lakes and Slug Dub have to rank in my favorite tracks of
>all time! .. It's hard to think of a least favorite track.

For myself, I rank both Oxbow Lakes and Slvg Dvb also as part of my Orb
favourites. When I heard Orbvs Terrarvm for the first time, I thought it
was a pretty experimental and 'heavy' album, but listening more and more to
it, I really started to enjoy that one.

And being a HUGE Miles Davis fan of the 70s era, I immediately noticed the
leyboard line from Calypso Frelimo in Slug Dvb. Anyone else mentioned here
already on the list ?
I once read in a Dutch music magazine called OOR, that LX was heavily
influenced by that Miles Davis 70s era, and that the particular
keyboard-line was just improvised in the studio, by him and Thomas Fehlmann.
But apart from that, I think especially Slvg Dvb is great, it has lots of
low bass sounds......I have both the CD and vinyl version (which is
different really.....check it out) of Orbvs Terrarum and I think the vinyl
version is the best one.....IMO they may have done a better job by putting
Orbvs Terrarum onto two CDs instead of cropping it all up onto one.
In common, Orbvs Terrarum was very underrated here in Europe, but it seemed
to be a huge success (breakthrough) in the US, right ?

Cheers,
Wouter

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Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 13:28:12 -0500 (CDT)
From: Jeremy J Graham <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) auntie aubrey 2

Does anybody know the status of an Auntie Aubrey's 2?  This might be one
for Smiley...



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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 20:55:40 -0700
From: "Bobby Tribble" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) Collecting dust - a dissenting opinion.

I love all the Orb albums, but Orblivion has been my favorite since
it came out.  All the tracks just flow from one to the other really
nicely.  And, I absolutely love Delta MKII so everything starts from
there.  =)  I listen to it in my car or in my room all the time.  It's
not as much "bedtime" music for me though, not as much as the other Orb
albums.  The album I play the least is Orbus Terrarum, it's almost too
laid back for me, and I don't like some of the samples used (like "I
am leaving for Constantinople tonight...".

Anyway, I just wanted to put in a vote for Orblivion...

- - Bobby


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Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 20:45:19 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Mr. Charlie C Ludwig" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) Collecting dust - a dissenting opinion.

I thought I was the only one who likes Orblivion.. I'm glad to heard some
other Orb fans love it as much as I do.

I also love Delta MKII, though IMO Ubiquity takes the cake.  It's the
perfect transistion from Delta -> Asylum, and it's not as if it's a segue
either.. probably my fav on the album.

Some quick food for thought on Ubiquity - (IMO) It's the audio definition
of the word.




charlie



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On Fri, 28 May 1999, Bobby Tribble wrote:

>
>
> I love all the Orb albums, but Orblivion has been my favorite since
> it came out.  All the tracks just flow from one to the other really
> nicely.  And, I absolutely love Delta MKII so everything starts from
> there.  =)  I listen to it in my car or in my room all the time.  It's
> not as much "bedtime" music for me though, not as much as the other Orb
> albums.  The album I play the least is Orbus Terrarum, it's almost too
> laid back for me, and I don't like some of the samples used (like "I
> am leaving for Constantinople tonight...".
>
> Anyway, I just wanted to put in a vote for Orblivion...
>
> - Bobby




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Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 23:47:13 -0700 (PDT)
From: Gavin Miller <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) Re: favourite, Slvg Dvb

Hello.

IMO they may have done a
> better job by putting
> Orbvs Terrarum onto two CDs instead of cropping it
> all up onto one.
> In common, Orbvs Terrarum was very underrated here
> in Europe, but it seemed
> to be a huge success (breakthrough) in the US, right
> ?

the US version on cd times in at 79:41, whereas the UK map pack cd I
have times in at 77:58. I'm pretty sure this is the same for all of the
europe cds too.
Slug Dub has the last voice bit on the US cd, but was cropped for the
UK. I'm pretty sure this is true for all the Europe discs too.
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Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 09:42:48 -0400
From: "Dan Kelly" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) Re: favourite, Slvg Dvb / Miles Davis

> .......And being a HUGE Miles Davis fan of the 70s era, I immediately
noticed the
> leyboard line from Calypso Frelimo in Slug Dvb.

The keyboard line you mention is from the song called Maiysha, (from the
1975 double-album "Get Up With It", which also features Calypso Frelimo,
which is a killer Miles track)

> I once read in a Dutch music magazine called OOR, that LX was heavily
> influenced by that Miles Davis 70s era, and that the particular
> keyboard-line was just improvised in the studio, by him and Thomas
Fehlmann.

Too similar to be a coincidence; plus, on Thomas Fehlmann's "Flow" ep, the
track Finger on the Map samples Miles' 1972 "On the Corner" lp.






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Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 17:02:38 +0200
From: Wouter Bessels <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) Re: favourite, Slvg Dvb / Miles Davis

At 09:42 30-5-99 -0400, Dan Kelly wrote:
>The keyboard line you mention is from the song called Maiysha, (from the
>1975 double-album "Get Up With It", which also features Calypso Frelimo,
>which is a killer Miles track)

I'm really sorry to say this to you, but it really IS in Calypso Frelimo !
(and LX also mentioned that title in the referring article, so.....check
your copy of Get Up With It !)
Or maybe you have a mispressing of that album which has the tracks misprinted ?

>Too similar to be a coincidence; plus, on Thomas Fehlmann's "Flow" ep, the
>track Finger on the Map samples Miles' 1972 "On the Corner" lp.

There are some more references between Orb stuff and Miles' 70s years.

Cheers,
Wouter


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Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 11:42:51 -0400
From: "Dan Kelly" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) Re: favourite, Slvg Dvb / Miles Davis

>
> > .......And being a HUGE Miles Davis fan of the 70s era, I immediately
> noticed the leyboard line from Calypso Frelimo in Slug Dvb.
>
>  OOPS!!! My Mistake!  You're correct, the riff is from Calypso Frelimo,
not Maiysha, as I said earlier. Both tracks feature Miles' eerie electric
organ & I mixed 'em up.
So sorry to rush in to correct you, I got excited when I saw the MD
reference, that's what I get for reading e-mail before breakfast!

For a more subtle sampling of Miles, check out Unity Dub by Richard H. Kirk
(from last year's Sandoz In Dub - "Chant To Jah")
Orbologists may dig this all-dub cd by Cabaret Voltaire's unique electronic
pioneer.
Dan



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Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 16:57:01 -0400 (EDT)
From: Paul Ketley <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) Most played / Least Played

I have to admit, I play Adventures.... far too much.  I am at the
point where I suddenly realise CD's may not last forever.
Favourite track is Spanish Castles In Space.
Least played is Pomme Fritz.
As for Cydonia, the Once More mp3 sample is excellent.  I don't
believe Lx and co would be daft enough to make any type of sequel of
any album.
Aubrey 2... I heard a rumour that one is in the pipeline.  Is this
true?
- - Paul
(currently playing - The Magical Sound of Banco De Gaia)



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Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 12:01:07 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Benjamin L. May" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) auntie aubrey 2

    I wrote to deviant and they said it was going to be delayed until
the new millenium. Oh well...

> Does anybody know the status of an Auntie Aubrey's 2?  This might be one
> for Smiley...



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Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 17:42:27 +0100
From: Smiley <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) auntie aubrey 2

>Does anybody know the status of an Auntie Aubrey's 2?  This might be one
>for Smiley...

erm...i know a little about it, but not much.

what i do know, i'm not sure if i'm allowed to tell yet.

if/when i do know anything, you'll all find out...

cheers.

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Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 17:40:43 +0100
From: Smiley <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) orb collections

Kael wrote:
>>can we PLEASE not post pointless lists of what orb stuff we own to the list?
>oooooooohhhh! who got out of bed on the wrong side this morning?

well....today was the first day i managed to get out of bed for 3-4 days.

* cough *

anyway, posting what you WANT is fine - that's part of why we're here, so
that we can get that stuff we're missing.

i just can't see the point of posting what you have, that's all....just
seems like a waste of bandwidth to me...

>>does  anyone else really want to know, or am i being tetchy?
>you are being the TETCH-KING

ooh...get back in the knife drawer! ;-)

>>watch out, or i'll post MY COLLECTION, which'll really clog up the list!
>go on, I dare ya!

i haven't got two months spare to type it up.as a hint, take the orb
discography, edit it a little, and that should cover it...

>DISCLAIMER:
>The above email was only intended as a non-serious vehicle for Mr Driscoll's
>inappropriate sense of humour.

yeah, i've known you long enough to be used to that...

>In fact, Mr Driscoll worships the very ground upon which Mr Sturt walks.

well you should, except you seem to forget that i actually hover. ;-)

>SECOND DISCLAIMER:
>the first disclaimer is also intended as humour.

oh.

i thought you meant it...

l8rs.

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Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 17:51:26 +0100
From: Smiley <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) Re: favourite, Slvg Dvb / Miles Davis

Wouter Bessels wrote:
>There are some more references between Orb stuff and Miles' 70s years.

how about the fact that i was named after miles davis?

true.

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Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 12:18:38 -0500 (CDT)
From: Jeremy J Graham <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) Collecting dust - a dissenting opinion.

I love Orblivion too.  I think it's great and, IMO, it's their most
psychedlic album yet.  In fact, I still listen to it quite frequently.  My
only complaint is that something doesn't seem quite right about it though.
Like I said, I think it's the shorter tracks -- not to mention that a few
are not quite up to par with the rest of the album, IMO.  But all in all,
this is an excellent release.



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Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 20:30:21 +0200
From: "Jochem Kok" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) Ehm.

>As for Cydonia, the Once More mp3 sample is excellent.

Ehm. Can Someone tell me Where this MP3 is found ??? I searched everywher=
e
on the net (yes its possible) but did only find some (nice=B4n cool btw)
Cydonia heads... Anyone?  =B4Would be v=E9ry happy to hear it, =B4once=B4.

Thanks Ahead !

Yog



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Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 16:21:55 -0500 (CDT)
From: Jeremy J Graham <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) Live '93

Speaking of all the talk abou t what discs get listened to now and days,
how about Live '93?

Jeremy



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Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 22:30:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: Gavin Miller <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) dreaming of a road trip

Hello all.

I can't seem to shake this vision of me driving across the US for Orb
shows, and thinking I don't have any idea when Cydonia is coming out.
Is there any other Orb fans in the Chicago area as crazy as me to go on
a trip for a week or 2? None of my friends like either going to shows
or the Orb as much as I do.
Gavin

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Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 02:21:40 -0600
From: Robyn Alma <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) Orblivion Screensaver

Hello All!

I am unable to connect to "orblivion.com".  I was hoping someone could
please send me the Orblivion screensaver, if it is not too much hassle.
I miss the sample from "S.A.L.T." coming on at the weirdest moments and
freaking me out, just like an Orb song.  Thanks in advance.


Peace,

'bette



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Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 15:25:17 +0200
From: Nicola Battista <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) say kids & other samples

according to what Coldcut said on their own site (I don't have the url
right now but I had saved the html page on my pc) the "Say Kids" sample is
from:

Buffalo Bob - Howdy Doody ("Say Kids..." & "Goodnight Kids")

FYI, the same same appeared at the beginning of "Jack to the sound of the
underground" by the late Peter Slaghuis, aka Hithouse (I have a page about
him somewhere under http://www.olografix.org/djbatman/heroes.htm ...I know,
I haven't updated it in ages... ;)))

Ahhh... this gives me the occasion to ask some collaboration for a project
of mine: The Sampling Archive. Is there an Orb sample list somewhere? I am
compiling a list of samples (look under
http://www.olografix.org/djbatman/SamplingArchive.txt) and it would be of
some help if someone had such a list (or rather if there's no list, it
would be great to have some of your contributions about sounds samples
included in Orb tracks) :)

bye,
Nicola (Dj Batman) Battista



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Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 08:35:18 -0700
From: [e-mail] (-->rachel)
Subject: (orb) Y2K

hey Orbsters!

well, some friends and mine have made a solid agreement to locate ourselves
wherever the orb might be on New Year's Eve... (i can't think of a better
way to start the Millennium, can you?)

any word on where the boys will be playing? (Smiley?) i'm assuming:
a)they're not staying at home and B) it will be someplace in Europe,
probably London (as I doubt Andy would want to leave his little rapscallion
behind on such an occassion)

let me know and i'll buy the tickets!!!  (even a rumoured show would at
least give me something to look forward to!)

cheers!
=)
rachel




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