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Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 07:11:00 -0500
From: "Andrew Cieszkowski" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) Royal Albert Hall

Hello from Canada,

I have to say a few things about this show:

1)  I was very dissapointed that we were not able to hook up before the
show.  I guess I was just thinking how cool it would have been to get all
these Orbheads from all over the place together for a pint.  Oh well.

2)  Sorry about pinching one of the posters off the wall, but let's face
it, it was there, and I had no idea they were going to be selling them
outside after and the security was a joke (not your usual Royal Albert Ha=
ll
crowd I don't think)  Let me tell you how much of a problem getting this
back to Toronto was without ruining it.

3)  This was an amazing venue for the Orb.  As Smiley said, the accoustic=
s
were top notch.  The chairs were cosy (for when I was actually sitting) a=
nd
the fans were having a great time.

3)  I saw KLF shirt and old Adventures shirt.  I have to say, the U.F.OFF
shirt was not very Orbish, I was a bit disappointed.

4)  I was first in Section J and then moved to right next to the stage to
take some photos ( I will post them after I get them back) and then I wen=
t
to the back under the projectors where the sound was actually the best.=20
The set was, well, the best of the Orb, and they were pretty much at thei=
r
best.  Very few problems and overall a great show.

5)  While in London I was able to find the video with the bonus CD
(=A312.99),  the 2CD UFOff (=A313.99), Sun Electric live (=A35.00)(very h=
ard to
find in Canada) and FFWD (=A35.00)(very hard to find everywhere). For thi=
s I
really must thank Smiley for sending me in the right direction.  This
pretty much made my trip.  Thanks.

Anyway, too bad we didn't get together fo a pint, but I had a great time
regardless.

Andrew

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Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 17:27:20 +0200
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (orb) Future Music

>A couple weeks ago, a fellow was posting about the LX paterson interview in
>Future Music Magazine.  I thought they said it was issue 74, (current issue),
>but I have that, and I can't find the interview...  any help?
>
It was me, but it was in Issue 75. The current issue is now 76. (the one
with the Plastikman track and David Holmes interview).

JCFromParis

On now : BT - Embracing the sunshine (Embracing the future mix)




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Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 19:35:40 +0100
From: Michael <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) U.F. OFF for sale

Hi guys,
I received my copy of the 2CD version of U.F.OFF from Plato Den Haag on
saturday and
I simply love the 2nd CD ;-). The Mickey Mars remix is sooooo cool!!

Because of this I have the 1CD version of U.F.OFF for sale/trade.
So if someone out there is interested in the 1CD version just let me
know.
Don't need it any longer.

Did someone already mention that the cover of the 2CD version looks
a bit different? Well, the clouds on the 1CD cover are blue while the
clouds on the 2CD version are green ;-). Not so important, eh?

Have fun,

Michael

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Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 12:07:30 -0800 (PST)
From: steve robles <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) think ... songs.

i'm a new kid on the block, so forgive me if this has been covered
already. Does anybody have any thoughts concerning the cryptic morsel
of info on "Cydonia" alluded to in theorb.com's preview? It sez,
"think ... songs." Is this a return to a more airplayable lx and co.?
"Micky Mars" ain't LFC, but it ain't "Occidental," either. Thoughts
(dots)?




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Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 12:27:47 -0800
From: Steve Shah <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) U.F. OFF for sale

I just like the fact that the book's insert has a line that reads
"U.F. OFF U NO WHO U R"

- -Steve


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Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 15:49:23 PST
From: "Dekoy A/K/A Decoy" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) mORBid rantings

stuff that i think is sadly being overlooked:
Various Artists: Eternity Project One LP: 1989 UK (Gee Street; GEE A
002) $30 by [e-mail]
HELLO! where everything started!
    Let Jimi Take Over 12": 1989 UK (WAU!Mr.Modo; MWS 001R) $15 by
[e-mail]
Youth in an early development of remixing.
Kiss 12": 1989 UK (WAU! Mr.Modo; MWS 010T) [promo x949; "orb factor 6"
label] $35 by [e-mail]
absolutely mint and absolutely original.
Loving You: 12": 1990 UK (WAU! Mr.Modo; MWS 017R) W/L T/P [Jan 90] M$30
why settle for a bootleg when this is the original promo that was
solicited to the radio stations? stickered with label on a inner sleeve.
(V3)Perpetual Dawn 12"PD: 1991 UK (Big Life; ORB PICTURE 3) M$15
even for easy art to hang on the wall! just mount through the middle
hole.
(V4)Perpetual Dawn 12": 1991 CN (Attic; ATTP 9109) split 12" w/other
artist on other side. Orb side=Ultrabass I, II, Solar Flare Ext. M$10
this is not a split bootleg, but an early Canadian rarity. probably less
than 1000 pressed.
Dollshead: It's Over, It's Under 12: 1997 US (Refuge/MCA; RFG8P 4102)
promo M$10
? who don't people want this? i've seen it so rarely.........
Innersphere: Out Of Body 12": 1995 UK (Sabrettes; SR024R)$8 by
[e-mail]
this is such classic ORB mixing, with them taking their time and rolling
for around 15 minutes. whens the last time they did that aside from
Killing Joke in recent years?
Maximum Bob: Sucker 12"WL: 1992 UK (Total Records 12 THN 1DJ)[promo]
M$20
HELLO!? big time rarity!
The Gruesome Twosome: I'm The Light 12": 1992 HO (Crammed; 12 CRAM 81)
M$10
this baby is stickered as Thrash(The Orb).........
Naomi Campbell: Love and Tears 12": 1994 UK (Epic/Sony 660835
6)Master+Ambient Mixes by Youth M$8
great post orb ambience from the hands of youth.
Akiko Kanazawa: Tanto-Bushi 12": 1993 UK (AO Records; FrostT004) LX's
label, Andy(MixMaster?)Morris mixes M$10
you like the Orb, so wouldn't you like the man of orbs taste in Ambient?
if he was willing to put money behind it and put it out on his
own...........
with Robert Fripp and Thomas Fehlmann FFWD>>: FFWD>> CD: 1994 UK
(Intermodo; INTA 001 CD) $35  by [e-mail]
for all the wah wahing about how rare this is, i don't think it's
getting its proper attention.
Orbscure Trax - The Rare Excursions CD: 1997 US (Island; PRCD 7444-2)
[promo] $21 by  [e-mail]
another rarity(2000 made) and considering that many of these are
exclusive..........sheesh.
Greg Hunter: Subsurfing: The Number Readers CD5: 1994 UK (AO Records;
AO999) $15 by [e-mail]
see above for the Akiko explanation.

the best thing though:
Eternity: Ashram House 12": 1988 UK (WAU Recordings/Gee Street GEE12004)
mix/prod Bass, Engineer P.J. Dynamix, D.J. Cesare M$15
this is before WAU! Mr. Modo even recame a separate entity. it really
showcases Youths work of sampling, with samples used from Kraftwerk,
Moroder/Summer, and Bulgarian female choir.

just Imagine:
(V2)What Time Is Love? (pure trance original) 12": 1989 US (TVT Records;
TVT 4071) W/L T/P $20 by [e-mail]
(V0)What Time Is Love? (pure trance original) 12": 1989 US (TVT Records;
TVT 4071) M$20
which both contain:
8:46  What Time Is Love? (live version) [land of oz 31 Jul 89]
where and how did Patterson/Cauty meet and start collaborating?
Hmmmmmm..............................

enough already, auction closes in a couple of hours.
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Nebula/7129/

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Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 19:56:40 +0000
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (orb) Re: mORBid Decay

Decoy/Decay....whatever.
Enough of this shameless self promotion. We all saw your auction. No need
for high pressure sales tactics. We can get that from vacuum salesmen. If
you want more $ for the items...post higher minimum bids.
sorry if this seems too harsh, I just needed to vent my spleen.

- -Brainfart

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Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 20:26:23 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (orb) mORBid rantings

desperate?>


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Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 22:56:27 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (orb) : )

allright guys....check out the second link on the left of this website....goes
appropriately with the band name ,
huh..............http://members.aol.com/liquidw/

 <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/liquidw/">In the teeth of .... SpaceDog ....
The Music...</A>


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Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 21:59:51 -0600
From: weeksmo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) Future Music

Smiley,

Wanted to thank you for taking the time fill in those of us in the states who
jealously read all the various posts about the show.  Sounds killer and can't wait

for the boys to head stateside (whenever that may be).  Now wishing I would have
burned the frequent flier miles to catch the gig.  Floated the idea but received
very low WAF (wife acceptance factor).

All of us on the list owe you a major thanx for everything you do to make
listening
to LX, Andy, et.al an even greater pleasure.  Don't know why you go through the
hassle, but wanted to let you know I, for one, really appreciate your hard work
and
posts.

If you're ever in Chicago, let us know.  First several rounds of frosty beverages
are on me.

Thanx again...weeksmo

P.S. How did Mick Jones look?  Heard a rumor he wasn't well.  Did you get a chance
to say anything to him?  Know of any new tunes coming our way from Mick?  Needless
to say, also a big B.A.D. fan from way back.  Thx again.





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Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 22:11:35 -0600 (CST)
From: "Mr. Charlie C Ludwig " <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) mORBid rantings

just out of curiousity, do you find the need to nag us to buy your stuff?
dont get me wrong, i like the idea (in fact, i've bid on a few things),
but beating it into us is just too much.. chill! :)



charlie




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Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 22:17:25 -0600 (CST)
From: "Mr. Charlie C Ludwig " <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) The Orb Audio Archive

i'm going to make this short and sweet..

the OAA is still homeless, and we need someone who would like to dedicate
some space/bandwith to the archive..


anyone?


charlie



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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 12:29:04 +0800
From: Kael Driscoll <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) dekoy is OK :-)

hey orbies :-)

i personally enjoyed dekoy kickin me in the butt, cos now i have some wicked
stuff waiting for me that i didn't even know existed... and i found the
little reviews to be helpful... i must admit that i thought some of those
items would have been fought over by all the "collectors", but i have also
discovered that a lot of people never put their money where their (typing)
fingers are... sometimes me included!!! that is why poor old smiley is a bit
wary of everyones enthusiasm when they say to him "yes! get me this and this
and this!"

its easy to say "yes" but it can be hard to get the cashola... the old
phenomenon of 20 emails saying "me please!" but nothing in the snail mail...

thanks dekoy! now i own a vinyl copy of "Space".... hooray!!

KL
p.s. "hear hear" to all that stuff about Smiley from weeksmo... three
cybercheers for "our man on the scene" Smiley "the oracle" Sturt!!





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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 10:56:01 +0200
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (orb) Found this...

... in London.

WORLDS COLLIDE Global Remixes / Original Versions 2CD EMI 7243 4 97961 2 6

CD1 :
1. Shiva mix by Youth & OTT 4.27
5. Mocarabe mix by Jah Wobble 10.50
6. ARC Dub mix by Andy Falconer 5.32

The first CD is a remix comp of world music tracks from the second CD.

JCFromParis

On now : Worlds Collide - Tribal Drift

BTW, Mick Jones seems rather well. When I came out from the Royal Albert
Hall, he was there and looked really young...




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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 01:52:02 -0800 (PST)
From: Robert Jan Bijleveld <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) Anthology I & II

For all Dutch Orbies

Spotted Anthology I & II at Virgin Recordstore in
Amsterdam. (From Both 3 copies)


RJ





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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 13:54:41 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Smiley)
Subject: (orb) Re: advanced listening copy?

Tink writes:
> I recently obtained an "advanced listening copy" of UFoff. It's just the
> first CD, no difference in tracks. It comes in a brown cardboard package,
> with the island logo and something about 'not for broadcast or resale' bla
> bla. The CD itself is silver but different from the official release.
> It has 'cid 8087' printed on it and the tracknames. Anyone know what exactly
> this is or how rare it is?

just a fairly standard Island promo cd.

no idea on the rarity, but they've been selling for 10-15 UKP around London.

cheers.

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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 14:11:31 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Smiley)
Subject: (orb) Re: dekoy is OK :-)

Kael writes:
> i must admit that i thought some of those items would have been fought over
> by all the "collectors", but i have also discovered that a lot of people
> never put their money where their (typing) fingers are... sometimes me
> included!!! that is why poor old smiley is a bit wary of everyones enthusiasm
> when they say to him "yes! get me this and this and this!"

yep - i'm currently owed approximately 200 UKP for stuff that i have for people
- - quite a few of them on this list.

U KNOW WHO U R

> p.s. "hear hear" to all that stuff about Smiley from weeksmo... three
> cybercheers for "our man on the scene" Smiley "the oracle" Sturt!!

ah, tish and pish!

* blush *

l8r.

- --
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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 18:02:22 +0000
From: "Nicholas J Flanagan" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) ORBULLETIN: Alex DJing this Wednesday

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Alex will be doing a set this Wednesday at Band on the Wall Manchester.

Around 6 squid to get in.





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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 09:05:53 +0000
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (orb) FSOL - ISDN - :)

FSOL, ISDN with a white cover is not rare, its easy enough to find (I
actually only got around to buying it last week); but ISDN with a black
cover is rare (my brother has it, he found two of them in a wee shop in
Bangor  - N.Ireland; unfortunately, he gave one to someone else and not me
- - but it resides mostly with me, as I love it).  There are a couple of
track differences, mainly that ISDN white has some Amorphous Androgynous
tracks on it...and black has other songs, like "Hot Knifes", which is quite
interesting...

If you find the URL for the RA of it, then please send me, I'm VERY
interested!!!!  :)

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Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 13:44:58 -0500 (EST)
From: jose f pabon coe stnt <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) TEXtures

For those of you who live in NYC, Second Coming, the cd store has the
TExtures double cd. Price is $19.99 They also have a copy of the double
UF.Off but its quite pricy, $33 i think. Laters.




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Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 21:12:27 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (orb) Little Fluffy Clouds dbl 12"

Rebel Rebel   - -319 Bleeker Street, N.Y.C. 10014 (212-989-0770) has Little
Fluffy Clouds dbl 12" promos for $23.95.  They do mail order.  Devour now .
After seeing the cover I know where "mickey mars" comes from- - --- - - -- --
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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 13:14:32 +0000
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (orb) FSOL - ISDN - :)

Alright...they might not actually be off the Amorphous Androgynous album,
but they are of a similar style, probably closely related, like a lot of
the stuff off ISDN which has so many bits of lifeforms in it if you listen
hard enough.  Now when it comes to ISDN black having songs off Dead Cities,
I sure as hell haven't noticed anything; but it does give me an excuse to
steal my brothers copy of ISDN black to compare with dead cities and ISDN
white.

Anyway, to drag some orb content into all this...I got UF OFF yesterday (I
was really pissed off and needed cheering up, so I spent 90 squid on
CDs....gosh my day went soooo much better after that) and I must say, that
is my favourite Orb sleeve yet!  The music ain't bad neither!  Its good to
hear some of those mad mixes, which I probably wouldn't have been able to
get for some time.

I also purchased, among others, the Thomas Fehlmann album Flow:
ninezeronineeight; which shows a serious chunk of his influence on the
band.  I might have to search out other thingies....

Adios
ronan




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> track differences, mainly that ISDN white has some Amorphous Androgynous
> tracks on it...and black has other songs, like "Hot Knifes", which is
quite
===>What--really?!?  I have the Amorphous Androgynous
cd (there's only one, right?), and I don't recall any of those
tracks appearing on my white copy of ISDN.  But as far as I
know, some (if not all) of the alternate tracks on the black
ISDN made it to the album, _Dead Cities_.
I could be wrong....  I'll check it out when I get home.
Vince








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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 12:11:15 -0800
From: "sCt" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) Man did this list go dead.....

Where did everyone go?  Let's bring back the Moby thread so I can get 50
email a day again!  Just kidding.  Here's a couple of thoughts:

Wouldn't it be cool if Volkswagen put out a CD of the tracks they used in
the Beetle commercials?  They have an online store that sell all kinds of
Beetle stuff, I'm sure we would all buy one.......

Has The Orb ever been asked to do a soundtrack to a movie?  I know they have
done some music they thought would be good for soundtracks, but have they
ever been approached?  Smiley?

off topic:  Has anyone seen the new Robin Williams movie "What Dreams May
Come?"  This is serious eyecandy.  The next time I see it I will try to be
under the influence of something psychedelic.

Later
- -Scott

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