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From: Geoffrey Elgey <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) Toxygene #1 wanted
Date: 01 Mar 1997 10:08:42 +0000

G'day,

A mate of mine in the UK is trying to get the two new Orb 'Toxygene' CD
singles for me, but can't get his hands on #1 (w/ the box). If anyone knows
where to score a copy , or can buy & send one to me, or has a copy for
sale/trade, please respond privately.

Thanks,
Geoff


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From: "michael.beckers" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) ORBLIVION IN GERMANY!!
Date: 01 Mar 1997 10:25:57 +0100

Hi, I finally managed to get hold of a copy of OBLIVION in Germany,
it was released last week. I got my copy for 31,- DM at SATURN.
So all german Orbsters without ORBLIVION check out SATURN asap ;-))
By the way does someome know the name of the secret track after the
"America on LSD" sample and the 6 minutes of silence ;-)) ???
Nice one.....

Michael

Just take the last train to Trancentral:
http://www.geocities.com/soho/lofts/1353/

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From: [e-mail] (Sean Strout)
Subject: (orb) living in orblivion
Date: 01 Mar 1997 11:56:28 PST

we're presented with walls of dub layered on top of simple,
infectious rhythms.  It's heavier than previous works - more
agressive, heart pounding freakishness at times.  the tracks
typically start out with vocal samples - reiterating the theme of
mankinds ascent into apotheosis - rebirth by apocalyptic
annihilation into beings of pure energy - that transcend
physical existence.
the musical shapes LX and company conjuer forth are
both brilliant and frightening.  they are forever
evolving and changing.  bright chimes, soft
analogue whirls, electronic beeps and buzzes that
submerge underwater, resurface on the back side of
the moon and cross the event horizon.
and then there's rhythm, infectious beats that
blithley arrange themselves on the canvas.  pure bliss.

like all great works, it takes some time to fully absorb.
it's compelling, it grabs you and shakes you about,
puts a bug in your ear and drags you through
the agony and ecstacy of existence.  my words can't
do it justice, go out and submerge yourself in it.

(trainspotting)
Begbie: "Well!?"
Renton: "It's good... Ohh, it's really fuckin' good!"

what a beauty. !-)
-s.

orblivion word for the day:
ubiquitous (adj) - existing or being everywhere at the same
time : constantly encountered : widespread omnipresence



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From: Gregor Menasian <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) More rare Orb CDs for sale/trade...
Date: 01 Mar 1997 16:24:49 -0800 (PST)


Thanks to everyone who's replied so far, I found the rest of the Orb stuff
that I don't need:

Blue Room - US 4-track Promo CD (actually, this includes the UFOrb album,
  but the UFOrb CD skips, so I'm not counting it.)
An Introduction to Orb - US Promo only 4-track CD with sticker on cover
The Orb's Adventures... - US 1-disc version with different versions of
  Perpetual Dawn and Star 6&789 that are otherwise only found on the
  Perpetual Dawn CD5.

Plus all of the stuff I posted before:
Perpetual Dawn - UK CD5
Assassin - Full Single, buyer's choice of UK or German versions
Assassin - UK Promo in special package
Oxbow Lakes - UK CD5
The Orb's Adventures... - UK first release in special packaging

As before, I'm looking for the following Orb CDs in trade:
Aubrey Mixes: The Ultraworld Excursions
[any unofficial CDs other than Icons and Cyberworld]

Actually, I'm also looking for some other uncommon/import CDs by people
like FSOL, Orbital, KLF, and a few others.  If you have any such CDs to
trade, please send me your list!

Thanks,
-Gregor Menasian




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From: "R. TAYLOR" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) Re:Macerana? Earthrise
Date: 01 Mar 1997 18:15:00 -0700 (MST)

    My room mates one of whom produces techno, have become convinced
that Alex heard la macarena in Brazil or some other Latin state and used
it to create Perpetual Dawn. I kid you not, but now I keep hearing the
similarites. I keep laughing,and not just from the mouth movements.help!
    We were tricked here when they but Orblivion
 in import instead of
techno, UK version? Don't be deceived, check both in the US.MOst
intresting as we haven't even gotten Toxygene yet, March 13 for New Mexico
    There's an explosion release coming out on St. Patricks day US
style in Britain, is this the Orb or is it Orbital's single for the Saint.

    EARTHRISE http://web.nmsu.edu/~rataylor
A rave I'm running the web pg. and smart bar for in NEW Mexico, hey we'll
be playing the ORB-you best believe, I'll make sure.



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From: "John Given" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) More rare Orb CDs for sale/trade...
Date: 01 Mar 1997 18:01:23 -0800



> Aubrey Mixes: The Ultraworld Excursions

Speaking of which, I sent some e mails to Caroline asking why they don't
re-release this and got no reply.  Too bad, because Caroline is usually
such a good lable (and Astralwerks especially) and probably a better choice
than Island, which seems prone to conduct witch hunts of artists who
utilize samples in their music (I'm thinking of Negativland).
john-------------------------------------------------------------------
Happy?  I'll teach you to be Happy!
I'll teach your grandmother to suck eggs!

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From: Greg Roberts <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) Orb-tastic!
Date: 01 Mar 1997 20:43:45 -0800

Just listening to the orb album and had to vent a little frustration.  I
have a live tape of the orb playing this one song, the most incredible
song, with the phattest bassline, sounding like it was released when the
orb came out, but still sounding new as well.  I loved this song.  And
it turned out to be "secrets" from orblivion and what is on the viynl is
no where near what i heard live.  No heavy, heavy bassline, just a
hollow part.  Anyway, I am not saying it's a bad version(or maybe I am),
but for those who have nto heard it live(and I hope it is the same live)
you will enjoy it.
And I have a question for anyone.  I have 'passage of time" live too,
but it has a completely different ending.  The live one is great,
trancy, and sounds like UF Orb-type music.  This is not what is on the
album and Im curious if anyone knows what this endi is or if it has even
been released.
Still a great album though.
DrGonzo


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From: DJ ANIMA <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) *Orblivion*
Date: 01 Mar 1997 21:49:24 -0700

Happy Day!!!!

I consider myself very lucky to be one of the few Americans with a copy
of *Orblivion*, and let me tell you it is well worth the price I paid.
I would have to say after my immediate first listen that my favorite cut
is *Ubiquity*, although I am sure that will change.  It is just me or is
*S.A.L.T.* kinda spoooooooky...

I love the artwork...especailly the shot of Alex shaving.  Does anyone
know if the molecular compound that is behind the Eiffel Tower is for
LSD or THC?  Just a thought.

If you are unable to find it in your local area, fear not.  I will be
creating a page for *Orblivion* in the *Chocolate Hills of Bohol*
Discography section, complete with track listing, artwork, yes...SONG
SAMPLES!!!  I have been allowed more server space, so song samples for
most of the entries will be found in the near future.  If you have yet
to visit Chocolate Hills:

http://holly.colostate.edu/~robinv/Chocolate/index.htm

is the NEW URL.

I hope to have my own humble review of the album, song for song, in the
news letter *Montagne D'Or, along with everything else I've mentioned by
the middle of the week.

Until Then Keep Searching for the Grail

DJ ANIMA

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From: [e-mail] (Frankie G           [iarratani])
Subject: Re: (orb) living in orblivion
Date: 01 Mar 1997 23:40:51 PST


>orblivion word for the day:
>ubiquitous (adj) - existing or being everywhere at the same
>time : constantly encountered : widespread omnipresence

hehehe... i looked that one up too!

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From: [e-mail] (Adnan)
Subject: (orb) alex paterson to dj konkrete jungle, nyc, 3/3/97?
Date: 02 Mar 1997 01:13:08 -0500 (EST)


Howdy folks,

I'm writing in my capacity as editor of a global trance magazine - title
still under wraps. Our first issue's slated to appear in May and will
feature an interview with TiP Records' Raja Ram; an equally mindblowing
interview with RTTS' Mark Allen, a knowledgable and
imaginative technology section featuring gear reviews; an essay on wave
modelling and a studio visit with Synchro. Other features include an
introduction to the Chinese healing/art form Qi Gong, with an interview
with Masters Ronger Shen and Yi Wu. Our book review section includes
reviews of HArdboiled Wonderland and the End of the World by Haruki
Murakami, Red Earth & Pouring Rain by Vikram Chandra, David Toop's Ocean
of Sound, Michael Talbot's Holographic Universe, and so on. Video game
record reviews have begun and will be completed at the very end,
alongwith the latest gear reviews.  The In Transit section features
reviews of big festivals, like RTTS Tsunami and Byron Bay Australia's
Beyond the Brain featuring Terrence McKenna, as well as party reviews
from Tokyo, New York, San Francisco, Tel Aviv, Goa, Amsterdam, Berlin,
etc. We have a new media section coming up. We have a Pharmacopedia
section kicking off with a nice, sober introduction to acid,
candyflipping, and acid and ketamine together, along with an excellent
bibliography. We're also expecting an excellent feature interview with
Bob Moog (who recently went back into business). We have lots of other
stuff in the works, for instance a piece on the drug laws of various
cities frequented by the trance traveller.

We'd love to talk with Alex Paterson about his perspective on dj'ing,
the evolution of the orb, music, and metasystemic paradigm shifts like the
one we're using to get
down and build this global dance culture that we call h_om_e. Do
you think he would be interested? The people at Konkrete Jungle and
THROB Records in NYC tell me he's djing at K.J. on March 3rd. If anyone
can suggest a possible means of contacting him about getting together
before or after the gig to chat about these topics or whatever else he'd
like to chat about, that would make me really happy!

B.Om

Adnan
NYC



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (orb) Juno Reactor's "Luciana" Trade ??
Date: 02 Mar 1997 20:24:07 -0800

Anyone interested in Juno Reactor's "Luciana" cd?
In a perfect world, someone would trade the Voices of Kwahn cd, but I'll
consider any offers, privately...

James
The Conquistador
--
"[With 2000 coming,] the only comparable year was 1984,
which only eight little boys in Hulme thought was going
to be like the George Orwell book. The rest of us knew
it was going to be exactly like that shite Eurythmics
song"                -- Dave Quantick

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From: [e-mail] (Frankie G           [iarratani])
Subject: Re: (orb) Juno Reactor's "Luciana" Trade ??
Date: 02 Mar 1997 21:41:34 PST

can someone PLEASE just tell me what the voices of kwahn cd is? is there
any orb involvement? is it anywhere near as good as the orb? what's the
style? (etc.)

it seems like there is a lot of talk about the cd, but i just dont know
what it is!

thanks

------frankie g

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From: Rob Buse <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) Detroit ?
Date: 02 Mar 1997 22:16:45 -0500

Does anyone know if Alex is gonna be in Detroit, or near,  for the Orblivion
U.S. tour ?


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (orb) Domestic Orblivion
Date: 03 Mar 1997 01:11:39 -0500


I wonder, does anybody know if the domestic release of Orblivion in North
America will be the same as the UK version? I'm trying to decide whether
to pay import price now or wait a week or two and pay half that price...

James

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From: Marc Resibois <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) Orb in europe !
Date: 03 Mar 1997 10:50:12 +0100

Orb is crossing the channel !

They are announced for the 20 April in Brussels.

I'll be there I guess ;-)

Marc.

[sorry if this info was already posted. I was in holiday and did not
have the time to read the 100+ orb mail that came in my box]

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From: Creature Feature! *PHART* <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) grouppie_wannabee
Date: 03 Mar 1997 11:30:57 EST

me wannabe a grouppie wannabee!

Nah, but seriously, if any of da orblettes are listening, it would be great to
get together after the gig.  I could bring down some CDs for ya all to listen
to which I am sure you have never heard!  As you have been touring recently, I
could bring down the new Scorn Album or something and I have a serious Ambient
Industrial Collection, Most recently Throbbing Gristle's ambient album which was
the soundtrack to Derek Jarmans, "In the face of the rising sun" (or something
like that!)  It kicks ass and as it is about 18 years old, it has to be the first
hard ambient album ever.

WHAT SAYETH THOU ?????

'till the eagle devours me whole....

Ronan FitzGerald


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From: Luigi Sepede <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) Orb guest list : Superb!
Date: 03 Mar 1997 13:35:18 +0000

Regarding Danjel's letter of chances of being on the guest list - it
would be an honour and a privelidge to meet Alex Paterson and the others
for some autographs, but mainly to talk to him about "worldly" phenomena -
I've read interviews with him recently and his theories on the 2000 AD
calendar being innaccurate are very interesting - in relation to this
the Sphinx-Mayan-Altantean connection is even more intriguing - something
of which would be a great talking point with the master Alex himself.

Well, you never know, the Manchester Academy all-nighter could be my
opportunity!

Speak to you soon, Orbsters,

Luigi


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From: "Gern Blanston" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) Pomme Fritz
Date: 01 Mar 1997 23:53:24 -0800 (PST)

>>WHHHHHHAAAAAAAATTTTT? you think pomme fritz was one of their best
>>studio albums? you must use more drugs than me! :)

>probably not, unfortunately. and yeah i think pomme fritz is totally
>tripped out, totally abandons typical song structure throughout, some
>insane textural grooves goin on.

I have to agree.. when I first listened to Pomme Fritz it was such an
unexpected sound that I didn't buy it until last year. Now it ranks up there
with the first album for me. In fact, it was the testimonies of those on this
list that convinced me to check it out for the second time. As far as drugs go,
when you listen to this album, you don't need them (which is how I feel about
all of their music anyway). Please set aside some "alone time" with Pomme
Fritz!

>plus its sonically far superior to the overhyped uforb...  in fact i >was so
put off by the sparse and dated sound of  uforb  i've never >bothered to get
the first albumn, umm...  whichever one that is.

I wasn't on the list when uforb came out, so I didn't see the reactions to the
release of uforb... I was really, really disappointed when uforb came out since
I loved the first one so much, and now I can only appreciate pieces of it
(oobe, towers of dub, blue room are excellent). I agree that some of it sounds
dated, which the others don't. In closing, I have to say that if you don't have
The Orb's Adventures Beyond The Ultraworld, you are definitely missing some
great music.

-Gern Blanston


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From: [e-mail] (Rachel)
Subject: (orb) orb chat
Date: 03 Mar 1997 17:21:35 -0800

just finished with a crash (literally... leave it to a  my Mac) at
Sonicnet's Orb chat... they were in NYC where LX is djing tonight at
Konkrete Jungle. it was also simulcast in Real Audio, so you could hear
them chatting amoungst themselves as Andy was typing. pretty humourous.
transcripts are available through www.sonicnet.com, so i won't bother to
post it here. Andy confirmed a SF tour date of May 2nd, as well as their
presence on the Organic tour (info on this, anyone?) which will also bill
the Chem. Brothers and the Underworld... that should be QUITE the show!

over and out!
one happy Orbster, rachel!



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From: Christopher William Niemitz <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) hate to brag but....
Date: 03 Mar 1997 22:11:41 -0800 (PST)


I recently acquired a brand new copy of the original Kiss e.p.
(yes Virginia, there is a Santa Claus).

Don't remember seeing this posted anywhere on anyone's Orb
pages, so I thought I'd type it up for your enjoyment...

From the press release:
WAU MR MODO - 12" SERIES
THE ORB - * THE KISS EP
   side Roof: KISS YOUR LOVE (118 BPM)
              SUCK MY KISS MIX (118 BPM)
   side FLOOR: THE ROOF IS ON FIRE-DJ Mr X (124 BPM)
               AMBIORIX MIX (118BPM)
recorded live in Trancentral Mobile One, between Namuri &
Luik E41 Northbound Junction 35

Produced by TWO FAT BELGIANS

RELEASE DATE :06/06/89
UK DISTRIBUTION: PINNACLE

THE ORB BIOGRAPHY

THE TRUTH IS....

The Orb spend their weekends, smashed out of their
heads, making noises by turning on a drum machine & leaving it
running, recording everything, including mistakes.

They make no claims that the results of their efforts
can be considered music, or has any relevance to the outside
world, or contains any elements of a tune, or traces of
anything vaguely memorable.

The only positive thing I can say about The Orb is when
I'm off my cake on Monday nights I love it.

Cross-over potential: Nil.


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From: [e-mail] (Mark Turner)
Subject: Re: (orb) hate to brag but....
Date: 03 Mar 1997 22:43:26 -0800 (PST)


> I recently acquired a brand new copy of the original Kiss e.p.
> (yes Virginia, there is a Santa Claus).

There seem to be some test pressings or bootlegs of this
floating around lately.  I got one myself, along with
"A Huge Ever Growing Pulsating Brain..." and "A Huge
Ever Growing Remix."  Also another one called "Naked in
the Rain," which I was told is by The Orb but I can't find
this in the discography.  Does anybody know anything about
this one?  I can't read much of the stamped-on label other
than the catalog number, MWS 016T.

--
 Mark Turner
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From: sean <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) Guest List: What are the chances of list members getting on it?
Date: 04 Mar 1997 16:12:20 -0500 (EST)

groupie. you did mention status...
:)
sean
    accept less                expect more
                s......e......a......n


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From: Smiley <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) Orblivion UK chart position
Date: 05 Mar 1997 12:24:47 GMT


after the success of 'toxygene', i think you'll all be as surprised as i was to
hear that 'orblivion' only entered the uk album charts at number 19 - no you're
not seeing things - NINETEEN.

huh? even the new james album went in at number nine......

--
Smiley

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From: [e-mail] (Sean Strout)
Subject: (orb) Orblivion tour dates
Date: 05 Mar 1997 11:01:50 PST

FYI, reiterated from www.theorb.com/orbulletins.html:

UK
Wed 12 Mar - Norwich UEA
Thu 13 Mar - Portsmouth Pyramid
Fri 14 Mar - Liverpool University
Sat 15 Mar - Manchester Academy
Mon 17 Mar - Dublin Olympia
Tue 18 Mar - Belfast Ulster Hall
Thu 20 Mar - Glasgow Barrowlands
Fri 21 Mar - Birmingham Que Clib
Sat 22 Mar - Brixton Academy

US
Thu 27 Mar - Bossa Nova @ The Pink, Santa Monica, CA (LX only djing)
US dates: May 15-June 16 to be announced.

Europe:
Tue 1 Apr - Oslo Centrum
Wed 2 Apr - Stockholm Gino
Fri 4 Apr - Copenhagen Vega
Sat 5 Apr - Berlin Arena
Sun 6 Apr - Hamburg Grossfreheit
Mon 7 Apr - Cologne Move Club
Wed 9 Apr - Milan TBC
Fri 11 Apr - Paris Aqua Blvd
Sat 12 Apr - Brussels Ancienne Belgique
Sun 13 Apr - Amsterdam Paradiso

-s.

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From: Pete Ashdown <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) testing
Date: 06 Mar 1997 10:20:39 -0700 (MST)


please ignore

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From: Pete Ashdown <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) testing
Date: 06 Mar 1997 13:16:37 -0700 (MST)


testing

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From: Luigi Sepede <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) No tickets!
Date: 06 Mar 1997 17:55:13 +0000

AArrgghh!

I have just recieved very disturbing news. The Manchester Academy
all-nighter is apparently "sold-out"!!!

If anybody could PLEASE get hold of a couple of tickets, I would
be much appreciated.

This night was one I didn't want to miss - it is a complete travesty
of justice that I won't have the privelidge of seeing the Orb in all
their glory.....

...Once again, please e-mail me with any leads....Thank you Orbsters

Luigi.


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From: [e-mail] (Nico Baars)
Subject: (orb) Still out there??
Date: 06 Mar 1997 21:29:31 +0100

Hi Orbies,

Are you still out there?
Haven't got any mail in the last days from this always busy list.

Something wrong with (my) provider or are you all listening to Orblivion?

Nico

(Coming to London in two weeks to visit the all-nigther in Brixton Acadamy,
yes!)


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From: "Lazlo Nibble" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) ADMINISTRIVIA: Mail problems reported fixed
Date: 06 Mar 1997 13:37:40 -0700 (MST)

As you probably noticed, xmission has been munching a lot of mailing list
email lately.  According to Pete Ashdown at xmission, this problem *should*
now be fixed.  If you notice that you are missing any list email, please
contact me directly and let me know.

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From: Christopher William Niemitz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) Still out there??
Date: 06 Mar 1997 12:42:16 -0800 (PST)

On Thu, 6 Mar 1997, Nico Baars wrote:

> Are you still out there?
> Haven't got any mail in the last days from this always busy list.

Interesting, I think the list was also silent after Orbvs Terarvm
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From: Hugh Finney <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) primal scream CD5
Date: 06 Mar 1997 15:16:01 -0800

Orbsters,
Having found a copy of the US single, I now have no use for my copy of
Primal Scream's French CD5 of Higher than the Sun.

(Creation Records CRESCD 096)
1. 3:36 Higher than the Sun (7" mix) Produced by The Orb
2. 6:20 Higher than the Sun (American Spring Mix) Produced by Andrew Weatherall
3. 5:00 Higher than the Orb Produced by The Orb

All reasonable trade offers will be considered.

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I've lived a lot and I've seen a lot and now I'm just letting go.
I could point my fingers at the same old wrongs. The ones that we all know.
But I've no love to give or hate to take. I hope you understand.
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From: George Udel <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) Orb: Toxygene
Date: 06 Mar 1997 20:16:16 -0500

        Hi, my name is Nate Udel and I just brought Toxygene one by the Orb.
It has a guy saying, "Now wait a minute". Well the song doesn't wait and
shows that the Orb is Back.

        Here are the following songs on Toxygene Part 1

1. Toxygene (Edit)
2. Toxygene (Way out West Begbie Mix)
3. Delta Mk11 (Dal Vivo a Romo)
4. Toxygene (kris Needs Up for a Fortnight Mix)

        It's really good, and when will the Orb come out with the second
version of Toxygene, and there is another new import title by the orb called:

Orb: O.B.E Adventures, or something like that. Now, could it be an import
called:
Orb: O.O.B.E. Adventures?

If anyone of you Orb fans have any information, my email is:

[e-mail]

Thank you!!!

If those who like the Orb, there are some new orb sites.

Here are the Orb sites:

Http://www.orblivion.com
Http://www.theorb.com


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From: George Udel <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) Orb: Toxygene
Date: 06 Mar 1997 20:15:38 -0500

        Hi, my name is Nate Udel and I just brought Toxygene one by the Orb.
It has a guy saying, "Now wait a minute". Well the song doesn't wait and
shows that the Orb is Back.

        Here are the following songs on Toxygene Part 1

1. Toxygene (Edit)
2. Toxygene (Way out West Begbie Mix)
3. Delta Mk11 (Dal Vivo a Romo)
4. Toxygene (kris Needs Up for a Fortnight Mix)

        It's really good, and when will the Orb come out with the second
version of Toxygene, and there is another new import title by the orb called:

Orb: O.B.E Adventures, or something like that. Now, could it be an import
called:
Orb: O.O.B.E. Adventures?

If anyone of you Orb fans have any information, my email is:

[e-mail]

Thank you!!!

If those who like the Orb, there are some new orb sites.

Here are the Orb sites:

Http://www.orblivion.com
Http://www.theorb.com


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From: George Udel <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) Orb: Toxygene
Date: 06 Mar 1997 20:16:07 -0500

        Hi, my name is Nate Udel and I just brought Toxygene one by the Orb.
It has a guy saying, "Now wait a minute". Well the song doesn't wait and
shows that the Orb is Back.

        Here are the following songs on Toxygene Part 1

1. Toxygene (Edit)
2. Toxygene (Way out West Begbie Mix)
3. Delta Mk11 (Dal Vivo a Romo)
4. Toxygene (kris Needs Up for a Fortnight Mix)

        It's really good, and when will the Orb come out with the second
version of Toxygene, and there is another new import title by the orb called:

Orb: O.B.E Adventures, or something like that. Now, could it be an import
called:
Orb: O.O.B.E. Adventures?

If anyone of you Orb fans have any information, my email is:

[e-mail]

Thank you!!!

If those who like the Orb, there are some new orb sites.

Here are the Orb sites:

Http://www.orblivion.com
Http://www.theorb.com


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From: "Lazlo Nibble" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) Orb: Toxygene
Date: 06 Mar 1997 18:19:33 -0700 (MST)

> Hi, my name is Nate Udel and I just brought Toxygene one by the Orb.

You only need to send one copy of your message to the list, Nate.

>         It's really good, and when will the Orb come out with the second
> version of Toxygene

Both part 1 of and 2 of the CD5 were issued on the same day.

> Orb: O.O.B.E. Adventures?
> If anyone of you Orb fans have any information, my email is:
> [e-mail]

Please post to the list if you have a tracklist for this release!

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From: [e-mail] (Frankie G           [iarratani])
Subject: (orb) mail was down: here's my crrazy repost
Date: 06 Mar 1997 22:05:01 PST

hey.. the mail was down, so you didn't get my late night surge of insane
ranting that i tried to send to the list... those interested shall be
rewarded with a good laugh::

-------frankie g
=-=-=
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

ok... i was listening to orblivion... and then it hit me! all of a sudden
i knew the future of the orb.

as alex once said somewhere, the orb is probably gonna last about 12-14
years... and their career will be split right down the middle, starting
anew with orblivion. it was somehting like that. so anyway, let's
compare orblivion to adventures beyond the ultraworld. If we set them
equal as the first album for the orb in each of their two phases
(ultraworld being phase I and orblivion being phase II.. are you with
me?). both albums are similar in the sense that they range all over the
orb's capabilities, from ambient to poppish to dub to whatever.

The next step in phase I is u.f.orb, an excellent album which became very
much harder edge dance music than the first rather experimental album.
they stopped with the variety (for the most part) and stayed to one
basic formula (being a 4/4 beat). now, let's look at phase II - it seems
that the obvious way for the orb to go would be jungle (as hinted in
orblivion). i expect the next album to mainly stick to jungle rather
that house (jungle is a much more complex form of dance music) and to
kick ass (like u.f.orb).  if they follow along strictly, there should be
some kinda fourty minute single version of one of the best tracks :)

...then following in sequence comes a live album. live 99? live at the
dawn of the new millenium when the ball drops? who knows... i just think
it's gonna happen.

...then the orb will take WWWAAAYYY to much acid and make something
resembling pomme fritz :) :) :) :) :)

...(in phase one, next comes orbvs terrarvm) as for the next step of
phase II, then andy hughes will leave and alex will start working with
another kru and will tone this album down a little bit because the last
one was so wacky.

well.. that's it. i'm sure you can all respond and tell me what a wacko i
am, but its all in the name of fun :)

see you in the ultraworld

------frankie g

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From: [e-mail] (Jean Christophe Derrien)
Subject: (orb) Wrong thought
Date: 07 Mar 1997 08:49:02 +0100

DJ ANIMA said :

>Does anyone
>know if the molecular compound that is behind the Eiffel Tower is for
>LSD or THC?  Just a thought.

Nope, nope, it's the Atomium located in Belgium. For US members, there's
also Big Ben, Berlin, Athena, Kheops, etc...
In this case, it's not at all about drugs, it's about the end of the
civilization as we know it.
Of course, there's the Delta Mk II reference (to the drug) but otherwise, I
don't think this album is about drugs.

Am I the only one who can enjoy the Orb music without drugs ?

Anyway, this album is a diamond, especially Delta Mk II, Bedouin and Molten
Love.
Does anyone know if Fil Le Gonidec is French ? It sounds like it.

JC From Paris

JCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJC

But I tried to be the Fred Astaire of Words (Prefab Sprout)

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From: "Don" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) Orb: Toxygene
Date: 07 Mar 1997 20:41:35 +1000

> > Orb: O.O.B.E. Adventures?
> > If anyone of you Orb fans have any information, my email is:
> > [e-mail]
>

1. Alex vs the KLF - 10.18
2.Oeb vx Coldcut/Kiss FM - 14.26

Manufactured In Austria

SIAE Sonic.004
Documento sonoro, vietata la vendita separatamente

Booklet over 60 pages. In English and Italian.
Story and discography.
Pictures. Some colour.

by Vanni Neri, Giorgio Campani
December 1996

Don


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From: [e-mail] (Kadesh B Packard)
Subject: (orb) Orb :P
Date: 07 Mar 1997 04:42:52 EST

DRuGS : BAD

ORb : GooD

But, If you like drugs...

ORb : ViRtUaL dRuGS

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From: [e-mail] (Miles Schulze)
Subject: (orb) The Orb Name is Orgasmic!
Date: 07 Mar 1997 09:44:59 -0700

Man....I love to be in a group of people where the word 'orb' is used in
a variety of sentences.
ex. "Hey don't you love that Orb?",  "Man, I love Orb first thing in the
morning".....The reason I LOVE it so much is because No one knows about
the Orb in the United States, or at least in my state.....The closest
thing was one of Orb's Dj's came to denver and spun a mad Blue Room
Remix for it seemed to be for hours.....
I was on the list a long time ago and I got some good
trades...But my life is incomplete until I can come up with ADVENTURES
Video will all the tracks and live video on it....I've tried
everywhere(thanks nico but the pal system doesn't work here)....another
thing....It needs to be in NTSC format, the video system most found In
the U.S. and Japan....PLEASE, CAN ANYONE HELP???!!!
THANKS, ez or INCOMPLETE without



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From: " ben  p" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) change of address.
Date: 07 Mar 1997 01:13:30 -0800 (PST)


hi.  i just changed my email address.  so anyone trying to contact me, should
mail this one ([e-mail]) instead of the old one
([e-mail]).  the ranch like died or something..

anyway, this is being sent off to multiple people & multiple mailing lists.  so
i apoligize for being so impersonal, but, well, i'm too lazy to email everyone
i know, and write them all a nice little message to tell them i just changed my
addr..

i also apoligize for the mass amounts of wasted 1's and 0's this is going to
cause.  oh well.

the one plus is that i won't lose half my mail anymore..  due to a horrible
connection, but that's another story.

you might notice that i'm using hotmail.com.  yup, the situation's pretty
hurting.  i never thought i'd stoop low enough to use free email. :>  those
free email guys are probably reading this message right now, woohoo privacy. !

i won't be using this address for long, so probably within a few days or a few
weeks you'll get another one of these.  i probably shouldn't have even bothered
writing this one..
wow.

anyway, those of you who don't know me, hate me, don't want to talk to me, want
to kill me, etc etc.  just disregard this.  thank you.

-ben p.

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From: Luigi Sepede <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) (Orb) Appeal to all ORBSTERS
Date: 07 Mar 1997 13:41:39 +0000


>Regarding Danjel's letter of chances of being on the guest list - it
>would be an honour and a privelidge to meet Alex Paterson and the others
>for some autographs, but mainly to talk to him about "worldly" phenomena -
>I've read interviews with him recently and his theories on the 2000 AD
>calendar being innaccurate are very interesting - in relation to this
>the Sphinx-Mayan-Altantean connection is even more intriguing - something
>of which would be a great talking point with the master Alex himself.
>
>Well, you never know, the Manchester Academy all-nighter could be my
>opportunity!
>
>Speak to you soon, Orbsters,
>
>Luigi

Since then, as you've gathered, I CAN'T go to the Manchester all-nighter
because the venue has sold out.

THIS IS MY LAST DESPERATE PLEA - IF ANYBODY OUT THERE COULD GET ME ON
THE ORB GUEST LIST FOR THAT NIGHT, IT WOULD MAKE MY LIFE WORTH LIVING
AGAIN!

I WAS LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS SINCE THE DAY THEY ANNOUNCED IT, BUT DUE
TO UNFORSEEN CIRCUMSTANCES HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET A TICKET. (I LIVE
IN LIVERPOOL).

HELP!

Luigi.


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From: [e-mail] (Nico Baars)
Subject: Re: (orb) No tickets!
Date: 07 Mar 1997 18:43:58 +0100

>AArrgghh!
>I have just recieved very disturbing news. The Manchester Academy
>all-nighter is apparently "sold-out"!!!
>If anybody could PLEASE get hold of a couple of tickets, I would
>be much appreciated.
>This night was one I didn't want to miss - it is a complete travesty
>of justice that I won't have the privelidge of seeing the Orb in all
>their glory.....
>
I'm sorry but these dates are being advertised for several weeks now.
Why didn't you buy your tickets at the moment you found out The Orb come to
Manchester???

A couple of weeks ago the guy from Dublin mailed that tickest went very fast
for that show, so you 've been warned that all shows can sell out fast.

Nico


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From: [e-mail] (Nico Baars)
Subject: Re: (orb) Wrong thought
Date: 07 Mar 1997 18:52:34 +0100

JC from Paris asked:

>Am I the only one who can enjoy the Orb music without drugs ?

When you're not talking about sigarettes, alcohol or coffee, I'm with you!
Don't do and don't need drugs to enjoy music.

Nico

Let the whole drugs thing start again (ooh nooooo)


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From: [e-mail] (Nico Baars)
Subject: (orb) 4th world mail out 22.2.97
Date: 07 Mar 1997 18:57:06 +0100

Anyone who wants to complete their bootcollection?

Nico

(Don't mail me, reply to sm@4thworld)


>Return-Path: [e-mail]
>Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 14:38:41 -0800
>From: "sm@4thWorld" <[e-mail]>
>Organization: 4th World
>To: [e-mail]
>Subject: 4th world mail out 22.2.97
>
>
>Orb - Orbstory CD + Book (Sonic Book)
>@11.99
>Full history of the Orb through their various phases and incarnations,
including
>interviews, details of unreleased sessions and full discography including
remixes,
>bootlegs and videos, and a 2 track cd with the following material - 'Alex v
KLF '(10:18)
>& 'Orb v Coldcut/Kiss Fm extract '(14:26)
>
>sm@ 4thworld
>http://dialspce.dial.pipex.com/4thworld/
>


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From: [e-mail] (Jean Christophe Derrien)
Subject: (orb) Delta MkII
Date: 07 Mar 1997 19:24:58 +0100

As I read in an LX/Andy interview, the Delta Mk II is a drug created/found
by the CIA/ The US Army during the 60's to improve and manipulate people's
thoughts.
It's what I remember. It may not be completely accurate.
JC From PARIS

JCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJC

But I tried to be the Fred Astaire of Words (Prefab Sprout)

JCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJC



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From: [e-mail] (Jean Christophe Derrien)
Subject: (orb) Another thought
Date: 07 Mar 1997 19:35:28 +0100

Nico said :

>When you're not talking about sigarettes, alcohol or coffee, I'm with you!
>Don't do and don't need drugs to enjoy music.

That's exactly what I wanted to say. My drugs are movies, music, sex and
Coke (you know, the Classic One).
And I just didn't wanted to start a drug/no-drug discussion : I want to
talk about the wonderful music LX, Andy, Thomas and Co are doing for us.

Had the Nine Inch Nails single already been released with the Orb remix ?

My advice : go see David Lynch's Lost Highway. It's as strange and eerie as
a good Orb track is.

JC From PARIS


JCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJC

But I tried to be the Fred Astaire of Words (Prefab Sprout)

JCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJC



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From: [e-mail] (Jean Christophe Derrien)
Subject: (orb) Delta Mk II again
Date: 07 Mar 1997 20:14:13 +0100

Taken from an LX interview in Melody maker

"There's Delta Mk II, which is also the name of one of the tracks on the
album. Delta Mk II is a truth drug the CIA developed in the 60's. They
built this camp called Jonestown, which was filled entirely with mad
people. It was perceived as the base for a religious cult, which served as
a cover for the CIA to run covert operations.
It's nothing new really, the CIA have always done stuff like this, and
still are.
It's like back in the 50's, when they were experimenting on Amercian
soldiers with LSD.
There was a CIA acid test, where they'd give troops LSD and the one's who
cracked stayed at home, and the one's who remained sane, and saw God,
beauty or whatever, would go."

JC From Paris

JCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJC

But I tried to be the Fred Astaire of Words (Prefab Sprout)

JCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJC



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From: DJ ANIMA <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) Re: Chocolate Hills of Bohol
Date: 07 Mar 1997 13:00:50 -0700

In case the first posting didn't arrive...
>
> Greetings from Orblivion!!!
>
> Just a quick note to call attention to some new things at Chocolate
> Hills...  I picked up my copy of *Orblivion*, and have added an entry
> for it the the discography section.  I have also included an entry for
> *Toxygene*.  Both include art work and relevant information, so if you
> are interested in seeing what the gatefold for *Orblivion* or the cover
> of *Toxygene #1* look like, then head on over and check them out.  I
> have also included other changes in the discography.  I have also posted
> my review of *Orblivion* in the Orb newsletter, Montagne D'Or.  I had
> received email from people saying that the Ort Art section was not
> allowing them to view the larger images.  That situation has now been
> rectified.  In addition, I have added a review of the album, as found at
> NME.COM.  I have also included a link to an advanced orders page at CD
> NOW in case you anticipate problems finding *Orblivion* in your area.
>
>      As always, I am open to you comments, suggestions, and criticisms.
> Special thanks to rachel@ironlight for her assistance and guidance, as I
> have tried to make this site a little less taxing on you browser.
> Thanks to everyone who has visited, your support is appreciated.  If you
> are new to the list, lost your bookmark, or just plain haven't visited,
> the URL is as follows:
>
> http://holly.colostate.edu/~robinv/Chocolate/index.htm
>
> Cheers
> DJ ANIMA

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From: DJ ANIMA <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) Choolate Hills of Bohol
Date: 07 Mar 1997 12:35:10 -0700

Greetings from Orblivion!!!

Just a quick note to call attention to some new things at Chocolate
Hills...  I picked up my copy of *Orblivion*, and have added an entry
for it the the discography section.  I have also included an entry for
*Toxygene*.  Both include art work and relevant information, so if you
are interested in seeing what the gatefold for *Orblivion* or the cover
of *Toxygene #1* look like, then head on over and check them out.  I
have also included other changes in the discography.  I have also posted
my review of *Orblivion* in the Orb newsletter, Montagne D'Or.  I had
received email from people saying that the Ort Art section was not
allowing them to view the larger images.  That situation has now been
rectified.  In addition, I have added a review of the album, as found at
NME.COM.  I have also included a link to an advanced orders page at CD
NOW in case you anticipate problems finding *Orblivion* in your area.

     As always, I am open to you comments, suggestions, and criticisms.
Special thanks to rachel@ironlight for her assistance and guidance, as I
have tried to make this site a little less taxing on you browser.
Thanks to everyone who has visited, your support is appreciated.  If you
are new to the list, lost your bookmark, or just plain haven't visited,
the URL is as follows:

http://holly.colostate.edu/~robinv/Chocolate/index.htm

Cheers
DJ ANIMA

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (orb) The Orb Name is Orgasmic!
Date: 07 Mar 1997 15:07:55 -0500

> I was on the list a long time ago and I got some good
> trades...But my life is incomplete until I can come up with ADVENTURES
> Video will all the tracks and live video on it....I've tried
> everywhere(thanks nico but the pal system doesn't work here)....another
> thing....It needs to be in NTSC format, the video system most found In
> the U.S. and Japan....PLEASE, CAN ANYONE HELP???!!!

You can, for a small fee, get that pesky PAL format transferred to NTSC
at any video studio or the like...just check the yellow pages.

And they'll even eliminate the copy protection....

James

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From: John Michael Goelzer <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) random thoughts
Date: 12 Mar 1997 10:54:00 -0500

> On Future Sound of London's ISDN, as track 7 "Eyes Pop - Skin Explodes -
> Everybody Dead"
> ends and track 8 "It's My Mind That Works" begins, a distorted voice says
> "You know how everybody's into weirdness right now?" three times,
> then "It's all part of the cosmic consciousness".
>
> Is this the sample you were thinking of??
>
Thas is PRECISELY the sample I was thinking of, only if my memory
of the movie serves me correctly, it's "cosmic unconsciousness."
It's a great speech.

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From: Hugh Finney <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) US tour Dates !
Date: 12 Mar 1997 16:13:33 -0800


Found this info on the Polygram web site.

http://www.polygram.com/polygram/usa.html is the index page.

http://www.polygram.com/polygram/tour/tour_southeast.shtml
April 18- Ritz Theatre - Tampa
April 19- Masquerade - Atlanta

http://www.polygram.com/polygram/tour/tour_southcentral.shtml
April 21- TBA - New Orleans
April 23- TBA - Austin
May 5- TBA -  Salt Lake City
May 6- Aztlan Theater - Denver

http://www.polygram.com/polygram/tour/tour_greatlakes.shtml
April 25- TBA - Detroit

http:/www.polygram.com/polygram/tour/tour_midwest.shtml
April 26- Aragon - Chicago

http://www.polygram.com/polygram/tour/tour_northwest.shtml
April 29- DV8 - Seattle

http://www.polygram.com/polygram/tour/tour_southwest.shtml
May 1- Mayan Theater - Los Angeles
May 2- Maritime Hall - San Francisco
May 3- Huntridge - Las Vegas

http://www.polygram.com/polygram/tour/tour_ny.shmtl
May 9- Hammerstein - New York
July 4- Madison Square Garden

http://www.polygram.com/polygram/tour/tour_midatlantic.shtml
May 10- 9:30 Club - Washington, DC

http://www.polygram.com/polygram/tour/tour_newengland.shtml
May 12- Avalon - Boston

I have no idea how valid this information is, but I was able to
confirm the SF show on May 2nd. Didn't want to run up my phone
bill checking on the rest.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (orb) Orb in Canada!
Date: 12 Mar 1997 20:21:47 -0500


The Orb should be coming to town May 13 in Toronto, but the place as of
now is unavailable. More info can be found at:

http://www.polygram-us.com/polygram/tour/tour_canada.shtml

Joy!


James

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From: [e-mail] (Frankie G           [iarratani])
Subject: (orb) http://www.allstarmag.com/intr/database/9703/orb/allstar-orb.html
Date: 12 Mar 1997 22:00:10 PST

hey there...

this message goes out to all orb fans (hey... this list is a pretty good
place to post something like this :)

there is a CRRazy interview with the orb @

http://www.allstarmag.com/intr/database/9703/orb/allstar-orb.html
http://www.allstarmag.com/intr/database/9703/orb/allstar-orb.html
http://www.allstarmag.com/intr/database/9703/orb/allstar-orb.html

that's it

----------frankie g

ps - now on "frankie bones - escape from brooklyn (house + techno music
that is DAMN good for what it is!)

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From: Smiley <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) Tangerine Dream mixes
Date: 13 Mar 1997 09:47:06 GMT


The Orb vs Tangerine Dream promos are doing the rounds now - although i haven't
managed to find one yet. :-<

It was reviewed in the NME 'vibes' section as an Orb single, called 'Mandarin
Cream'. They seemed to think that it was an old orb track...duh!

The short write-up said:

"Dubbed-up relic from The Orb's past that still manages to make the listener
get up and check if the stereo is faulty. One for those DJ warm-up sets at that
time of the evening when everyone's too cool to dance."

Maybe the press sheet gives that impression, even though it's come out on
Tangerine Dream's label (Castle Communications) and not on Island.

As soon as I find it, details will be forthcoming, as usual..

laters.

--
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From: "Zozzy (Dave Thwaites)" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) Blue Room Font. Get it here...
Date: 14 Mar 1997 01:25:33 +0100

: I'd have to see it first, obviously.  Where can it be downloaded?
:
heres the url where it can still be downloaded at the moment.
http://fonts.eyecandy.com/previous/
It might go in a week or two so if you miss it just mail me
and i'll send you a copy
Zozzy

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From: Smiley <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) Tangerine Dream mixes
Date: 13 Mar 1997 09:47:06 GMT


The Orb vs Tangerine Dream promos are doing the rounds now - although i haven't
managed to find one yet. :-<

It was reviewed in the NME 'vibes' section as an Orb single, called 'Mandarin
Cream'. They seemed to think that it was an old orb track...duh!

The short write-up said:

"Dubbed-up relic from The Orb's past that still manages to make the listener
get up and check if the stereo is faulty. One for those DJ warm-up sets at that
time of the evening when everyone's too cool to dance."

Maybe the press sheet gives that impression, even though it's come out on
Tangerine Dream's label (Castle Communications) and not on Island.

As soon as I find it, details will be forthcoming, as usual..

laters.

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From: [e-mail] (Sean Strout)
Subject: Re: (orb) US tour Dates !
Date: 13 Mar 1997 06:49:05 PST

> July 4- Madison Square Garden

Wowza, does this have something to do with the rumored techno/ambient
gathering that Perry Farrell is working on?

-s.

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From: "Iain Newton" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) US tour Dates !
Date: 13 Mar 1997 12:07:48 -0500

        Reply to:   RE>>(orb) US tour Dates !
anyone know where or what the "hammerstein" is in new york? there is no listing
for it in manhattan - thanks in advance

iain


Found this info on the Polygram web site.

http://www.polygram.com/polygram/usa.html is the index page.

http://www.polygram.com/polygram/tour/tour_southeast.shtml
April 18- Ritz Theatre - Tampa
April 19- Masquerade - Atlanta

http://www.polygram.com/polygram/tour/tour_southcentral.shtml
April 21- TBA - New Orleans
April 23- TBA - Austin
May 5- TBA -  Salt Lake City
May 6- Aztlan Theater - Denver

http://www.polygram.com/polygram/tour/tour_greatlakes.shtml
April 25- TBA - Detroit

http:/www.polygram.com/polygram/tour/tour_midwest.shtml
April 26- Aragon - Chicago

http://www.polygram.com/polygram/tour/tour_northwest.shtml

April 29- DV8 - Seattle

http://www.polygram.com/polygram/tour/tour_southwest.shtml
May 1- Mayan Theater - Los Angeles
May 2- Maritime Hall - San Francisco
May 3- Huntridge - Las Vegas

http://www.polygram.com/polygram/tour/tour_ny.shmtl
May 9- Hammerstein - New York
July 4- Madison Square Garden

http://www.polygram.com/polygram/tour/tour_midatlantic.shtml
May 10- 9:30 Club - Washington, DC

http://www.polygram.com/polygram/tour/tour_newengland.shtml
May 12- Avalon - Boston

I have no idea how valid this information is, but I was able to
confirm the SF show on May 2nd. Didn't want to run up my phone
bill checking on the rest.

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From: Rob Buse <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) Orb US tour Dates ?
Date: 13 Mar 1997 13:44:43 -0500 (EST)


The dates for the Orb in Detroit are posted at

http://www.polygram.com/polygram/tour/tour_greatlakes.shtml

    Orb 4/25 Detroit, MI @ To Be announced

    Does anyone know if these dates are right cause on the Ultraworld
site is says there from May 15 - june 16 ?? Anyone ?



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From: Anthony Bryan <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) orblivion mail
Date: 14 Mar 1997 03:13:26 -0500 (EST)

some time during the week I got an envelope from Island w/ a small(er
than a baseball) card on orblivion, w/ the web site listed & an "Out
Everywhere Now" on it.

I sent away to the address in england (orb posse?) a long time ago, buut
never got an answer. did Island US pick up on this?

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From: Cornelius <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) Orb in Seattle
Date: 14 Mar 1997 02:28:12 -0800 (PST)


I live in Vancouver, and have read about the Seattle date over this group,
and I am very happy (understatement). Anyways, the record shops that I
phoned up here about tickets know nothing, so- I was wondering if a)
tickets are available from the devil (ticketmaster), and b) if they're
selling quickly so that if I can hop across the border this weekend I'll
pick up a pair in the flesh. Also, does anyone know if they'll come up
here, like they did last time I almost went to Seattle to get tickets? And
can I just say- this kicks ass! Not only will I get to see the Orb, I also
FINALLY get to see Jamiroquai, AND Man or Astroman is playing that month
too. Expensive, but glee- causing (I think I made a new verb). Wheee!


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (orb) Manchester tickets
Date: 14 Mar 1997 17:19:04 +0000

Hi

This is my first message to the list, but I've been
'listening in' for a while. I'm writing in now because I
think I have the potential to make someone very happy!

I'm off to the all-nighter Orb gig tomorrow at Manchester
Academy. Now, the gig is sold out, and has been for a while,
right? Well, due to a mate's unforeseen transport problems, I
may have two spare tickets to the gig to sell. Anyone
interested?

Send me a message - preferably with a phone number to speed
things up - if you're interested. I won't actually know for
certain until Saturday afternoon whether the tickets are
available, so it'll all be a bit rushed and hectic I'm
afraid. But, hey, it'll be worth a bit of hectic if you get
to go to the gig, right?!

Laters

Sarah ----------> [e-mail]




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From: sean <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) US tour Dates !
Date: 14 Mar 1997 01:47:36 -0500 (EST)

new york is a state.
it is bigger than newyorkcity
which is bigger than manhatten, physically of course
:)
sean

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                s......e......a......n


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From: "IceBerg" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) US tour Dates !
Date: 14 Mar 1997 14:14:06 +0000

> Date:          Wed, 12 Mar 97 16:13:33 -0800
> From:          Hugh Finney <[e-mail]>
> Subject:       Re: (orb) US tour Dates !
> To:            [e-mail]
> Reply-to:      [e-mail]

>
> Found this info on the Polygram web site.
>
> http://www.polygram.com/polygram/usa.html is the index page.
>
> http://www.polygram.com/polygram/tour/tour_greatlakes.shtml
> April 25- TBA - Detroit
>
> http:/www.polygram.com/polygram/tour/tour_midwest.shtml
> April 26- Aragon - Chicago
>

> I have no idea how valid this information is, but I was able to
> confirm the SF show on May 2nd. Didn't want to run up my phone
> bill checking on the rest.
>
> --
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> I've lived a lot and I've seen a lot and now I'm just letting go.
> I could point my fingers at the same old wrongs. The ones that we all know.
> But I've no love to give or hate to take. I hope you understand.
> And then I hear. Go to sleep. Go to sleep.
>

Conformation!

Sat April 26: ORB  W/ Special Guest the Chemical Brothers!
Aragon - 773-561-9500
Ticket Price $20.50

Let me know if any of you get the info for the Detroit show, and let
me know if you will be at either of these, cuz I will see you there!

IceBerg


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From: *molly* <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) US Tour Dates...
Date: 14 Mar 1997 18:36:07 EST



>http://www.polygram.com/polygram/tour/tour_newengland.shtml
>May 12- Avalon - Boston

I just called the Avalon and they were not willing to confirm this
date.  They said that as of right now they are confirming only through
the 21st of April and that the Orb concert "may or may not happen" but
I certainly "should not put too much faith in things I hear on the net..."

Whatever...

*molly*


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From: Rob Buse <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) US tour Dates
Date: 14 Mar 1997 20:52:40 -0500 (EST)


    Anyone confirm the Detroit tour dates ?  I called ticket
master on them today but they dont know anything. Lemme know if you get
em' cause my livelyhood is riding on it.



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From: sean <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) Poor Version of Orbital (fwd)
Date: 15 Mar 1997 18:24:36 -0500 (EST)

from the neighbors
over at the orbital list
hmmmm
needless to say he wa s openly villified.
sean

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Hey,

I was gonna check out some of The Orb's stuff, but the guy at the counter said
they were a poor version of Orbital... So are they any good, or what?

Mike



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From: "beRt d'Eon" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) kinda off topic
Date: 15 Mar 1997 20:30:57 -0400

 I probably won't get a good/quick answer if I ask this on a news group, so
I'm asking you guys. Does the newest Aphex Twin CD "Richard D James" come
with extra stuff added to it in Canada. I believe I heard something about it
being so short that the record company decided to add more to it just to
make it a "regular" length album.
 I've already heard some of it on www.alstarmag.com. There's also Real Audio
samples of Orblivion at that site too. (there, a managed to add some Orb
related content to this message :)

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From: Greg Roberts <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) extra orb song on orblivion
Date: 15 Mar 1997 20:23:15 -0800 (PST)

Has anyone noticed the extra song on the end of the album.  Or has this
already been discussed.

"He who makes a beast of himself,
 gets rid of the pain of being a man."
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From: Gregor Menasian <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) Orblivion - US vs. UK versions
Date: 15 Mar 1997 23:24:32 -0800 (PST)


Greets all,

The US version of Orblivion just came out in stores this weekend, and the
times listed for the songs are significantly different than those listed
on the UK import version, sometimes by as much a a minute per song.

Anyway, I was wondering if anyone had access to both a US and UK copy of
the Orblivion CD and could compare the songs and  song lengths and post a
comparison between them...

Thanks in advance,
-Gregor Menasian



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From: Micah <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) DC confirmed
Date: 16 Mar 1997 03:59:32 -0500

the orb appearing at 9:30 club in washington,DC is confirmed. tix have
been on sale for a while and expected to sell out soon...May 10 i
believe was the day (don't have the tix or flyer at hand...)
just thought someone might wish to know...
annai
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     IF YOU BELIEVE IN HAPPINESS, IT'S BECAUSE OF UNHAPPINESS,
     IF YOU BELIEVE IN GOD, THEN YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE IN THE DEVIL.'
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From: [e-mail] (Nico Baars)
Subject: (orb) The Orb live??????
Date: 16 Mar 1997 11:36:58 +0100

Hi Orbies,

I know there are people on this list who went to the Orb last week. So, fill
us in with the details!

12th march - Norwich
13th march - Portsmouth
14th march - Liverpool
15th march - Manchester

I know you're out there, so please tell us how it was!

Thanks

Nico


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From: DJ ANIMA <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) Chems OR Orb?????
Date: 16 Mar 1997 12:37:39 -0700

I have a quick question if anyone can answer this.  I would like to have
the correct information on my web page.  WHO IS OPENING THE US SHOWS? Is
it Chems or Orb?  I was watching "EMPTY-V" last night and Kurt Loder was
talking about Stoned Temporary PopStar (STP) dates, Prodigy dates and
Chems dates.  From his inflection, I infered that the Orb would be
opening up the show.  Any takers on this one?

DJ ANIMA

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From: basehead <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) vinyl for sale?
Date: 16 Mar 1997 16:49:25 -0500 (EST)



anybody selling ANY vinyl at all under the orb or ffwd name, please
email the catalog #'s, asking prices (US$ funds only please), and titles
of course to this address:

[e-mail]


thanks! i'm especially looking for the main assassin UK pressing,
blue room, perpetual dawn, the pato banton release on tribal UK, and
toxygene.

thanks!
-dan g



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From: "IceBerg" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) extra orb song on orblivion
Date: 16 Mar 1997 19:37:52 +0000

> Date:          Sat, 15 Mar 1997 20:23:15 -0800 (PST)
> From:          Greg Roberts <[e-mail]>
> Subject:       (orb) extra orb song on orblivion


> Has anyone noticed the extra song on the end of the album.  Or has this
> already been discussed.
>
> "He who makes a beast of himself,
>  gets rid of the pain of being a man."
>  [e-mail]
>  Pour Soi Recordings

I have, it comes on at about only 6min 50 sec left on track 12.  I am
curious as to weather it has a name?

IceBerg

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From: "IceBerg" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) Chems OR Orb?????
Date: 16 Mar 1997 19:37:52 +0000

> From:          DJ ANIMA <[e-mail]>
> To:            [e-mail]
> Subject:       (orb) Chems OR Orb?????

> I have a quick question if anyone can answer this.  I would like to have
> the correct information on my web page.  WHO IS OPENING THE US SHOWS? Is
> it Chems or Orb?  I was watching "EMPTY-V" last night and Kurt Loder was
> talking about Stoned Temporary PopStar (STP) dates, Prodigy dates and
> Chems dates.  From his inflection, I infered that the Orb would be
> opening up the show.  Any takers on this one?
>
> DJ ANIMA

According to the recording at the Avalon in Chicago, Chemical
Brothers will be the special guests of ORB.  So if this information
is correct, it would just go to show you cant trust MuckTV.  BTW AMP
should be a station all of it's own.  If you aggree mail mtv and let
them know.  Maybe even start a petition, and mail it to them on a
daily basis, till they get so tired the make the AMP station!

A abstract
M musical
P performances

Anyone know what it realy stands for?

IceBerg

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (orb) New York Info
Date: 16 Mar 1997 21:47:29 -0500 (EST)

Does anyone know where the Hammerstein is located in New York?

Devius1

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (orb) Orblivion, etc.
Date: 16 Mar 1997 23:46:05 -0500


Well, I just bought my *import* copy of Orblivion because I'm too
impatient to wait for the damned domestic to be released in Canada, and
I must say I'm very impressed. A few days back I believe I saw
someone say that it's similar to the Orb's older work....which is
definitely NOT true. Orblivion reminds me of Orbus Terrarum more than
anything else, with its 'dense' beats and 'complex' basslines, etc. S.A.L.T
(what does it stands for again?) is a masterpiece, and so is Delta MK II,
and well, pretty much the whole album. It's already one of my favourites.
But there's no way that the sound is like the more ambient sonic style
of  U.F.ORB or Adventures...

It's funny how some people are taking all that 'mystic' stuff on SALT
seriously.....that business about the 6666 in barcodes and the lining up
of the planets or whatever in  a cross...I also hear that Alex is taking
that stuff seriously too...

IF anybody cares, the rumour in Toronto is that the Chem Bros. are indeed
opening for the ORB on May 13th...and the Opera House is the unconfirmed
location...

That about does it for my 2 cents CDN (1.5 cents $US)

James

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (orb) Orb video(s)
Date: 17 Mar 1997 01:15:23 -0500 (EST)

Hi,
My name is Dan and I've just joined the mailing list. The Orb is one of my
favorites and I'm looking forward to communicating w/ others who feel the
same way. I'm also interested in getting a hold of the some of the Orb videos
- I've had no luck finding them in my area (I'm in Chicago, IL, USA). If
anyone out there is around me and knows where I could find them, please mail
me! Or, is there possibly a place on-line where I can order them?
I like to think I've got a pretty good Orb CD collection but I'm sure there
are some I'm missing. I'd love to talk to anyone about that as well....
Hope to hear from someone soon!
Dan

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From: basehead <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) asylum single
Date: 17 Mar 1997 02:00:27 -0500 (EST)



got a bit of info thru the grapevine..

'asylum' off the new album is the 2nd single, coming out within
the next month or so, i believe.

the release is scheduled to be packaged like toxygene was...
a 12" LP version, and a 2-cd box, each with +3 tracks on it, one
coming in a jewel box and the other with room for the 2nd in the box.

this is not official or confirmed, but just thought i'd tell everyone.

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From: Anthony Bryan <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) barcodes/mark of the beast
Date: 17 Mar 1997 02:06:04 -0500 (EST)

> It's funny how some people are taking all that 'mystic' stuff on SALT
> seriously.....that business about the 6666 in barcodes and the lining up

just curious, have you ever looked at a barcode?

I was bored at work yesterday, & looked at a bunch. I'd heard it before,
but never checked. the beginning, middle, & end double lines stand for 6,
hence...666

coincidence?
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From: Malcolm Irvine <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) orb tickets for barrowlands?
Date: 17 Mar 1997 15:56:49 +0000 (GMT)



 Does any fan want a couple of tickets for the orb at the
barrowlands,Glasgow on thursday.
 I'm having to sell them due to lack of digs......I'll be missing a
great night.

 If anyone is interested email me and I'll happily meet you in Glasgow
rather than waste 20 quid,

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From: Travis Johnson Ward <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) US Tour Dates...
Date: 16 Mar 1997 21:24:07 -0600 (CST)

> I just called the Avalon and they were not willing to confirm this
> date.  They said that as of right now they are confirming only through
> the 21st of April and that the Orb concert "may or may not happen" but
> I certainly "should not put too much faith in things I hear on the net..."
>
> Whatever...
>
> *molly*
Tix for the Austin show went on sale Sunday. So the dates are accurate so
far.
Travis,

P.S. Is Harvard really right down the street from MIT?

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From: [e-mail] (Sean Strout)
Subject: (orb) Orb D.C. show info
Date: 17 Mar 1997 10:12:01 PST

As stated previously, the 5/10 D.C. show at the 9:30 Club is
confirmed.  I called 1-800-955-5566 to get tickets ($20 each
plus svc/handling).

No information on the Hammerstein NY show reportedly on
5/9.

Sean

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From: Smiley <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) Fugees vs Abba
Date: 17 Mar 1997 16:04:32 GMT


am i the only one that find the fact that the new Fugees single 'Rumble In The
Jungle' is heavily based around a sample from Abba's 'Name Of The Game'?

1997, What The Fuck Is Going On? ;-)

laters.

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From: Luigi Sepede <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) First Orb Live review of 1997!
Date: 17 Mar 1997 20:44:24 +0000

Okay, you Orbsters, I went to see the Orb on Friday at the Liverpool
University gig, from 9pm-2am.

Got in late so I don't know what the first DJ was like...
The Orb came on at about 11:30 and immediately begun with the
"Montagne d'Or" sample of the Constantinople man, except it went much
further than what is on that CD.
A few tracks later (which were more techno than anything else) they played
Asylum...followed by some good ambient-dub in betweens.
S.A.L.T. came on and was particularly evil, and eventually they finished off
with Toxygene - about 8-10 minutes long!

All in all, it was too much new, not enough old (in fact, not any old). I
found that both annoying and fustrating. They played for 1hr30mins but time
flew by!

Samples were good, but went on far too long, I thought, stopping and
starting the crowd like puppet-masters.

Overall : good, but nothing like Phoenix festival 1995

Any more comments/Questions welcome:

[e-mail]

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From: "Benjamin J. Peterson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) patterns and textures video
Date: 17 Mar 1997 15:27:26 -0600

While I was browsing around at my local music store--I stumbled onto two
copies of the orb Patterns and Textures video.  Well we all know that this
is a treasured find.  I thought to myself that these were bootlegs-which I
found later after opening it that they were'nt-is it just me or is it rare
to find these out of print videos in a store--COULD THEY be Bootlegs?  any
info would be greatly appreciated..


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From: Marcolphus <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) Samples
Date: 17 Mar 1997 22:11:58 +0100

Well, it is not my hobby or something, but I here nice sample on
"Orblivion". In hidden (secret? bonus?) track is a sample from The Young
Gods' "Moon Revolutions". You can find it on the album "Only Heaven".
And in Assassin is a sample from Kraftwerk's "Kometenmelodie".
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From: [e-mail] (Rachel)
Subject: (orb) SF Orbies!
Date: 17 Mar 1997 09:37:37 -0800

Hey all you SF kidz!

Just spoke to the Maritime Hall, who was impressed that I knew the Orb was
coming... (thanks for the scoop, Andy) and he confirmed the venue and said
tix won't go on sale until about a month before the show, and tickets
prices haven't been set yet.  He also reiterated that it's general
admission, so not to worry....

YIPPEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!
=)
rachel

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (orb) barcodes/mark of the beast
Date: 17 Mar 1997 20:19:34 -0500

> > It's funny how some people are taking all that 'mystic' stuff on SALT
> > seriously.....that business about the 6666 in barcodes and the lining up
>
> just curious, have you ever looked at a barcode?
>
> I was bored at work yesterday, & looked at a bunch. I'd heard it before,
> but never checked. the beginning, middle, & end double lines stand for 6,
> hence...666
>
> coincidence?

But what country are you in? Unbeknownst to many people is that the
UPC is NOT universal but varies by country...and that there's about 30
different types and versions of barcodes out there, from the original
1973 version to the new 2-dimentional barcodes. Like most
superstitious nonsense, it breaks down when you look at the specifics.

Is it a coincidence? Well, take at a look at the specs at
http://www.nbn.com/youcan/upc/barcode.html (for beginners) or at
http://www.adams1.com/pub/russadam/upccode.html and you'll see that
there's a technical reason why the 3 guard bars are there.

As for the bars representing 666: well, that's not even the proper way to
read numbers on an UPC, and the codes differ depending on what side the
number is on. I suppose if I looked hard enough I could find any number
combination I wanted to, though.

But if I'm wrong, think of the implications!! ooh..

James

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From: sean <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) Chems OR Orb?????
Date: 17 Mar 1997 21:35:04 -0500 (EST)

if ORB open for 'chems' which im assuming you mean the shite chemical
brothers this is the travesty of our day. this should not be allowed
down with the chemical  brothers.
up up to the orb!!
sean


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From: Smiley <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) yet another orblivion promo!
Date: 18 Mar 1997 10:31:38 GMT


greetings orbsters!

i found this yesterday, completely by accident - i had no idea it existed.

The Herb Garden Magazine, Issue 21, Vol 2 (price 2.50 UKP)
includes interview with LX, plus:

'The Herb Garden Presents....

mini Orblivion

Home Killing Is Taping Music'

cat no: ORB MC 4 (promo-only)

tracks:
Passing Of Time (Film Mix)
Toxygene (Ganga Kru Mix)    NOT the mix from Future Music
Bedouin The Sheiks (Film Mix)

the 'film' mixes are both pretty mellow, ambient work-outs. the 'toxygene' mix
is a less hectic remix than the mix #2 from Future Music, but still pretty
uptempo drum 'n bass stylee...

the reason i didn't know about this is because The Herb Garden isn't a
particulary easy magazine to find, and only usually turns up in more
'underground' shops/record stores due to the topics it covers (work it out from
the title, boys and girls).

i picked up the only copy in the shop. there were no others. :-<

however, they are contactable by email at:

[e-mail]

or by post at:

The Herb Garden
PO Box 34
Dewsbury
West Yorkshire
ENGLAND
WF13 4YX

they do a 'back-issue' mail order service, and i think that this was last
month's issue (judging by the articles, record and film reviews, etc), so it
may be about to be replaced. however, it might only be a quarterly magazine...

anyway, try getting in touch, and let them know that Smiley sent you... ;-)

laters.

--
Smiley

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From: [e-mail] (Matthew Anniss)
Subject: (orb) A MEETING OF MINDS
Date: 18 Mar 1997 12:20:39 +0800

So, the subject title got your attention, eh? Well, this will grab it too.....

THE DAY I INTERVIEWED ALEX AND ANDY (and saw them play portsmnouth)

Last Thursday (13th March) I had the priveledge of interviewing Alex and
Andy for my show on NERVE FM (which has now reached the end of it's month
long run, by the way.....). After witnessing the most amazing version of
Passing of Time in the soundcheck, the Tour manager, Neil, ushered me into
the dressing room to meet the guys. Lounging on two small blue sofas, the
greeted me quite enthusiastically, telling me to pull up a chair. It was a
nice dressing room - a table with red table cloth and fruit bowl in the
corner, numerous chairs etc. I got out my Marantz cassette recorder and
microphone, prompting Alex to tell Andy to be on the ball (I don't think it
worked that well). The perils of analogue were discussed, briefly, before
we got started.

They were rather amusing, and seemed nice enough guys. They kept going off
at a tangent in the interview though ("Hull is the Las Vegas of the East
Coast" -Andy, "Sheffield is like Detrroit without the music scene" - Alex).
They did reveal that the problems with the release of ORBLIVION were
because of U2. They claim that they didn't want to clash with u2, who were
going to release POP last Autumn (last Fall, American readers). So they
scheduled orblivion for spring. Unfortunately, U2 changed the date and
everthing went pear shaped... or "It buggered it all up" as Andy said. They
also told me that they were going to win the F.A Cup. I ,of course said
"Chelsea, you mean?" and Alex replied "oh, and
helsea as well".

The whole bizarre episode is being chronicled in an article for a local
magazine. This will feature the obvious "Do you work well as a pair?" / "He
works well as an orange" / "You're a banana" routine.


The gig after was great.... but that'll be in a different message!


MATT

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From: [e-mail] (Matthew Anniss)
Subject: (orb) Orb LIVE in Portsmouth
Date: 18 Mar 1997 12:28:28 +0800

So, you have succesfully made it to Part Two of Matt Meets the Orb...the
Concert..


Well, things were kicked off by Alex Djing some mellow Drum 'n' Bass,
before Witchman played more Mad Jungle. Thomas Fehlmann Djed some cool
stuff, including hard dub. During Thomas's set, LX wandered round the
audience, watching thomas. Nobody seemed to realise who he was except me. I
chatted to him again, for a bit before he dissappeared.

The orb themselves were pretty damm good. They started with the Sportsnight
theme (popular Wednesday night sports highlights programme in UK) into a
monster version of Passing of Time. Can't remember what was next but ythey
played Secrets (great), the manic breakbeat of Delta Mk II, an unbeatable
version of Outlands, Asylum, S>A>L>T, A Beefed up Toxygene and Assasin (a
bit shite). They were probably others but I can't remember. YThe links
between tracks were great, and the samples fast and furious.

So there you go.......

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From: [e-mail] (Charlie Todd)
Subject: Re: (orb) barcodes/mark of the beast
Date: 18 Mar 1997 21:45:17 -0500

>>But what country are you in? Unbeknownst to many people is that the
UPC is NOT universal but varies by country...and that there's about 30
different types and versions of barcodes out there, from the original
1973 version to the new 2-dimentional barcodes. Like most
superstitious nonsense, it breaks down when you look at the specifics.
>>

Agreed!  The first thing I did when I heard S.A.L.T. was to look at the
Barcode on Orblivion.  The barcode of the domestic release has *no* 6's at
all.

What a great album though... "Secrets" is great.... the hidden track (which
I believe is "72" for whoever was asking) is also nice... A good solid
album.

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From: "Christian, Barry" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) another ORB live review
Date: 18 Mar 1997 14:51:00 GMT


Went to the Orb/Dreadzone allnighter in Manchester on Saturday.
As far as I remember they played :-
   Outlands
   Delta Mk II
   Passing of Time
   Pi
   S.A.L.T.
   Toxygene
 and  finished off with Assassin.

Julie Andrew's "Favourite Things (Favorite Things for the American readers)"
and Napoleon the 14th's "They're Coming to take me Away,Haa Haa" were
some of the amusing samples used.
The set only lasted for about 1 hour 20 minutes though.
Dreadzone were down for a three quarter hour set but they played for 1 hour.
  It was the first time I had seen Orb live after waiting for 2 years.
They were quite good but just a little diappointing,probably due to the
sound system and poor sound balance.
The evening's Sound System was bass boomy with a rather harsh top range
and very little of the middle frequencies.It made some of the vocal samples
difficult to hear properly.
Also the mixing desk settings seemed to be badly set.,the Toxygene melodic
line barely
audible under the bouncy beat.     I thought they were supposed to do
soundchecks
first ?
  Dreadzone came off much better---maybe because they aren't as multi
layered as Orb.
They certainly rocked the place.
  As for the evening's D.J ing,it was pathetic.
The evening supposedly kicked off with Alex D.Jing followed by Andy
Weatherall.All we got
was a sparse 4/4 drum rhythm sparsely accompanied and with little
variation---A.P. and A.W.
were indistinguishable.
It sounded like a tape or sequencer left running on and on.
  Overall we quite enjoyed the evening and the crowd were friendly,but there
was hardly any dancing to the "D.J." stuff,more dancing to Orb and nearly
everyone
dancing to Dreadzone.
 We always seem to get "rave" reviews of the live Orb shows on this list so
I'll probably get shot down in flames for this posting---------probably by
someone
who went to Manchester and heard it with different ears to mine.
  My friend agreed with my sympathies and was even more critical of the
crummy
sound system than I was,which was a pity as the Orb would have benefitted
enormously with decent sound.

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From: "Iain Newton" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) confounded
Date: 18 Mar 1997 11:00:43 -0500

confounded
i just thought i'd post this as there has been lots of talk about the "drum 'n'
bass" influence on "orblivion" - i have been into drum 'n' bass for a long time
and i love it - but, i cannot hear any drum 'n' bass influence on "orblivion" -
have i gone mad? please help, i think i'm in trouble...

iain


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From: "Iain Newton" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) a request
Date: 18 Mar 1997 10:53:28 -0500

a request
anyone know how to subscribe to the idm mailing list? please e-mail me privately
if you do - thanks in advance

iain

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From: [e-mail] (Jean Christophe Derrien)
Subject: (orb) T shirts, cool Orb stuff ?
Date: 18 Mar 1997 18:54:53 +0100

To those who already saw them live in 97' :

Did u see any cool Orb stuff (tshirt and co.) on sale at the concerts ?
Should I keep my money for this when I'll go to the Brixton gig ?
 (I already have an Orb shirt with the 97 logo, I found it at ENIT LA )

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From: basehead <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) d&b?!
Date: 18 Mar 1997 13:20:12 -0500 (EST)


I too have heard quite a bit about this supposed drum&bass influence
on orblivion, and i just have one thing to say 'where did you come up
with that shite?'

perhaps you were misled into thinking drum&bass is anything with
a non 4/4 beat, or thinking it actually means just anything with lots
of drums and bass, which it doesn't.

get your heads straightened out and realize the orb are above and beyond
these kinds of shite trends and the last thing they want to do is
just follow what's hot at the moment.

lx may spin d&b a bit these days, but its far from what he andy and
thomas produced on the album.

and don't even give me any crap about how s.a.l.t is d&b because i
will shoot you down pretty quickly =)

-dan g

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Subject: (orb) The new Towers of Dub
Date: 18 Mar 1997 14:12:46 -0600 (CST)


OK, so what is the name of the new Towers of Dub remix featured as the "hidden
track" on Orblivion?

And why do artists think these hidden tracks are cool?  It's a pain to skip
to and a waste of 5 minutes on the CD!

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (orb) Need Future Music
Date: 18 Mar 1997 14:10:27 -0600 (CST)

I need the Future Music Magazine/CD that featured the Orb Toxygene remix.
Could one of you Orb mailing list subscribers in the UK pick one up for
me.  I could pay you outright for it, pick up something here in the US for
you, or perhaps make you an Orb tape of rarities (I have almost everything).
Cash conversion can be a drag so I would prefer either of the last 2 of my
suggestions.

Please let me know if you can help out.  Thanks!

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From: basehead <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) looking for: LFC
Date: 18 Mar 1997 16:39:02 -0500 (EST)


are there any dj's or collectors out there who have a double of
little fluffy clouds 12"? the original UK pressing, the remix pressing,
or the us pressing.. any of the above 3 are fine although the first
and third are the ones i need the most.

if anybody would be willing to sell a copy to me (above normal vinyl
prices of course), please send mail to:

[e-mail]

thanks
-dan

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From: "Jamil S. Ibrahim" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) Live in Norwich
Date: 18 Mar 1997 17:12:02 -0500 (EST)

Well, I'm back from  the UK and I just thought that I would add a review
of the Norwich show I attended.  As expected, it was a great show.  All in
all, it was a lot more danceable than I had expected.  Even "We're pastie
to be grill you" was danceable.  Toxygene and Assasin versions were
awesome.  LX and TF got the crowd into it (not that they had to), hopping
around to the beats on stage.  One thing about the show did dissappoint
me though.  First off, the length.  They went on at around 10:30 and
walked off the stage at around 12.  I loved the big metal fish suspended
over the stage.
I can't wait to see what they have in store for their US dates.  I hope
longer sets.
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From: "Iain Newton" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) Live in Norwich
Date: 18 Mar 1997 18:10:56 -0500

        Reply to:   RE>(orb) Live in Norwich
isn't the other member on stage AH (andy hughes) not TF (thomas fehlmann)?

iain

Well, I'm back from  the UK and I just thought that I would add a review
of the Norwich show I attended.  As expected, it was a great show.  All in
all, it was a lot more danceable than I had expected.  Even "We're pastie
to be grill you" was danceable.  Toxygene and Assasin versions were
awesome.  LX and TF got the crowd into it (not that they had to), hopping
around to the beats on stage.  One thing about the show did dissappoint
me though.  First off, the length.  They went on at around 10:30 and
walked off the stage at around 12.  I loved the big metal fish suspended
over the stage.
I can't wait to see what they have in store for their US dates.  I hope
longer sets.
-jamil


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Subject: Re: (orb) confounded
Date: 18 Mar 1997 21:27:23 -0500


> i just thought i'd post this as there has been lots of talk about the "drum 'n'
> bass" influence on "orblivion" - i have been into drum 'n' bass for a long time
> and i love it - but, i cannot hear any drum 'n' bass influence on "orblivion" -
> have i gone mad? please help, i think i'm in trouble...

You have to take into account the fact that there is no solid
'definition' of drum n' bass, and that it's a subjective opinion. For
example, what's the definition of ambient music? How about rock? Goth?
The Orb???

One person's drum n' bass may be another persons jungle, who knows?

Well, that's my opinion, anyway,

James


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From: Ryan Platte <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) offset of bc/ad cutoff
Date: 19 Mar 1997 00:16:01 -0500

> Regarding Danjel's letter of chances of being on the guest list - it
> would be an honour and a privelidge to meet Alex Paterson and the others
> for some autographs, but mainly to talk to him about "worldly" phenomena -
> I've read interviews with him recently and his theories on the 2000 AD
> calendar being innaccurate are very interesting - in relation to this
> the Sphinx-Mayan-Altantean connection is even more intriguing - something
> of which would be a great talking point with the master Alex himself.

this isn't anything new really, not to take the joy of discovery away or
anything, but my uncle, a pretty respected theologian was telling me
Christ was born probably about 4 bc as old information several years
ago. and for more info on mayan stuff etc. check out http://deoxy.org
there's some mind-blowing material on just about everything hyperspaced
you can think of. just so you don't think lx is the only person thinking
about this stuff.

mail me if you want to talk about this stuff, i learn as i work through
thinking about it, a great process. being alive.

has anyone else had problems with delivery of their digest? talking with
a lister, i found i'd missed some episodes of orb lists, which i'm now
reading in the archives...don't want to keep this up, though.

beautiful scene today, in our otherwise dank school, everyone in the
journalism room was seriously grooving to 'molten love.' what a great
feeling...when i mentioned the title, a couple people said that was
exactly what it sounded like...have to agree.

been listening to orblivion enough to make me insane, and axiom dub came
in with cocksville usa, that's a great orb track!

andy and any others associated with the orb reading this, thank you for
these sounds. see you in chicago, that'll be a night.

Ryan Platte
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From: Ryan Platte <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) orblivion bits
Date: 19 Mar 1997 00:35:24 -0500

the people who called the later can prog rock were quite right, I got
the self-titled '79 release today, and there's some promising
Stockhausen approach to rock (kinda Eno-Velvet Underground-Stockhausen
mixture?) on the first track and a little on the second, the rest is
just junk.

I counted roughly the times I've listened to Orblivion the few days
since I've had it, I'm over 20 for sure! 20 full times through, that's
probably why I'm writing this inane post to the list, I've lost control
over basic functions! for instance, right when I got it, I headed
straight down to my basement, turned out all the lights, listened
straight through right between the speakers...by 'secrets' and the
tripped weather girl (the same as at the end of the remix project?), I
literally moaned from the intensity I was experiencing...and I don't do
drugs. what an album. some questions: there's a sample about peanut
butter sandwiches in passing of time...some words around it, does anyone
know what they are? A friend and I were debating LX's assertion that the
Orb was about buttocks...we're convinced it's much closer to peanut
butter sandwiches after all.

and you UK'ers seem to hear better than I some of the samples going on
in delta mk II...can't make many of them out, not like I'm sitting down
and rewinding it until I hear it, though. hey, why not hear the rest of
it instead, you know?

this is likely absolutely nothing, but what about that 'awed by
tradition' sample at the start of secrets? it rhymes with the 'law of
repetition' sample starting valley on the 96 peel sessions...keep
hearing the two against each other in my head...but maybe that's another
cue to go to bed. I'll stop wasting bandwidth. bye.

Ryan Platte
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From: Travis Johnson Ward <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) The new Towers of Dub
Date: 18 Mar 1997 20:40:49 -0600 (CST)

> And why do artists think these hidden tracks are cool?  It's a pain to skip
> to and a waste of 5 minutes on the CD!

Amen

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From: Greg Roberts <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) d&b?!
Date: 18 Mar 1997 20:38:56 -0800

You know, I like drum n bass. Does this make me less of a person. Do the
people who despise drum n bass so much ever get shit for liking the orb.
Maybe you dont hear any influence, but I hear the break beats in there.
The dont dominate the song, but on DeltaMK there is a couple of breaks
that fade in and out that have a drum n bass-like sound. Or think about
it this way. Does the orb sound like Eno, do they sound like lee perry,
or what about orbital. No, they sound like the Orb by using various
styles aand morpphing them into their own unique style. I wouldnt say
that drum n bass is the be all to end all concerning electronic music,
but then again I would not put the orb in that spot either.  There is
lots of good music, thats what you should have learned from lx and the
orb. it might be different considering i live in the us, maybe you guys
have this shit force feed to you by the media, clubs, other people, etc.
IF you hate it so much just ignore it, but dont come down on me for
having a different opinion.
DrGonzo

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From: "Lazlo Nibble" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) confounded
Date: 18 Mar 1997 23:21:42 -0700 (MST)

> i just thought i'd post this as there has been lots of talk about the
> "drum 'n' bass" influence on "orblivion" - i have been into drum 'n'
> bass for a long time and i love it - but, i cannot hear any drum 'n'
> bass influence on "orblivion" - have i gone mad?

Most folks were probably talking about Orblivion being D&Bish because the
band's live gigs last year featured a fair amount of D&Bish material, and at
the time the band said more than once that those shows were a fair reflection
of the direction they were taking on the album.  I agree with the folks who
don't think that's the way it turned out, but I disagree with the folks who
think it's worth making a fuss over. :-)

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From: Micah <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) ?Future Music
Date: 19 Mar 1997 04:44:55 -0500

i've finally found a place that has future music here in NC,USA but they
only have the Feb issue. please tell me that the cd is in the march
issue (i no longer have the original post)
thanks
annai
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From: Smiley <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) CAN remix album
Date: 19 Mar 1997 09:58:35 GMT


the long awaited Can remix album has been given an expected release date of
'somewhen' in may....

apart from the orb input, other remixers include;

U.N.K.L.E
A Guy Called Gerald
Carl Craig
Brian Eno
Air Liquide
Secret Knowledge (Kris Needs)
Sonic Youth
Francois Kevorkian
Sunroof    (nope, never heard of them either...)
Bruce Gilbert (Wire)

laters.

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From: Lane Robert <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) Live in Dublin
Date: 19 Mar 1997 10:27:00 PST



          Hello all ........

  Anyone else out there at the gig on St. Paddy's night ??? It was
unbeleivable, I mean I've seen "The Orb" before but this was just a
revelation for me, the venue was much better, a smallish theatre with a
really intimate feel, and a really strange mix of a crowd, a friend of mine
came in and thought he was after going to a Metallica gig by accident !!!!
 The stage setup was more simple aswell but very effective, not very many
lights but a great projection show on the stage.
  When the Orb came out they came out screaming- Really kicking beats of
"Secrets"  and then "Delta MK II", the crowd went ballistic, the live show
really went in for pounding beats- Andy Hughes really went mental,
Headbanging and basically jumping around, while LX just stood there and
looked busy. By the time "Toxygene" came on I was nearly drooling, and there
wasn't a single person ion the house that wasn't jumping around like a
headcase. The only track that was a bit of a let down was "S.A.L.T." it was
exactly the same live, as on the album, and also was the only track they
played that wasn't really heavy.
  For anyone who is going to see them in the near future, all I can say is
you are in for a treat.
  Someone was asking about merchandise- I bought an Orblivion T-Shirt for
L14 (Irish), which has the cover of the album on the front and orblivion
written on the back, This was probably the best T-shirt I saw, the other
ones were a "Toxgene" t-shirt and what looked like a "Auntie Aubreys....."
T-shirt, although I can't be sure.
  I would have written this letter yesterday only I was in bed for most of
the day recovering, (My legs feeling like lead!!!!!!!).

B.T.W.- did anyone go to the extra show they did in Dublin ???

     Later-                  Rob-

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From: "Iain Newton" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) confounded
Date: 19 Mar 1997 12:43:50 -0500

        Reply to:   RE>>(orb) confounded
i agree with "not making a fuss over (d 'n' b)" but i don't think i was making a
fuss - just pointing out to those who may be...

1. interested in d 'n' b, that they shouldn't buy this album thinking that it is
d 'n' b
2. unfamiliar with d 'n' b, that this is not a good starting point (ltj bukem,
of course, is)
3. uninterested in d 'n' b and may not buy this album because they think it is d
'n' b

also, lazlo, i saw the orb on their last tour "happy happy joy joy" on south beach
in miami and i didn't even notice drum 'n' bass in their set then, but i may
have been having too good a time!! who knows, yours

iain
> i just thought i'd post this as there has been lots of talk about the
> "drum 'n' bass" influence on "orblivion" - i have been into drum 'n'
> bass for a long time and i love it - but, i cannot hear any drum 'n'
> bass influence on "orblivion" - have i gone mad?

Most folks were probably talking about Orblivion being D&Bish because the
band's live gigs last year featured a fair amount of D&Bish material, and at
the time the band said more than once that those shows were a fair reflection
of the direction they were taking on the album.  I agree with the folks who
don't think that's the way it turned out, but I disagree with the folks who
think it's worth making a fuss over. :-)

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (orb) OOBE cd
Date: 19 Mar 1997 22:02:33 -0500 (EST)

I just stumbled across an Orb cd titled "The OOBE Adventure". Can anyone shed
some insight as to what's on it, as I saw only the title and there were no
track listings.
I'm also still desperately searching for the "Patterns and Textures" video.
I've found someone who's willing to make a copy but I would really prefer an
actual copy. If ANYONE is willing to sell one to me, PLEEZ let me know. Or,
if you're in the Chicago area, and know of any stores that might have a
copy..... there was a guy who posted an E-mail a couple of days ago from
Triton college, saying that he had come across two copies. If you're reading
this, I tried to mail you but haven't gotten a response, so I'm not sure if
you got the mail. Please mail me if you have both copies and are willing to
sell one, or just let me know the name of the store, as I'm about 20 minutes
from Triton.
Thanks!

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From: Robert Sink <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) Asylum UK Imports
Date: 19 Mar 1997 23:08:49 -0500 (EST)

Hi there.

I just noticed according to cdnow.com (I'm in a rural area - no stores :) )
that they've added Asylum singles #1/#2 as being available for $12.49/ea.
excluding the $3.50 or so it'd take to deliver by post.

I'm curious if anyone knows what the availability on these are insofar as
being able to find them at semi-specialty shops in the US (meaning not
Camelot, etc.....) and if $12.49 is a good price or not.  cdnow usually
is a lot more expensive on these things.

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From: Anthony Bryan <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) cdnow - orb vinyl
Date: 19 Mar 1997 23:47:48 -0500 (EST)



  $  19.99 CD    A Hugh Ever Growing Brain Uk (12 INCH) (VINYL) (MR. Modo)
  $  19.99 CD    Kiss (12 INCH) (VINYL) Uk  (MR. Modo)
---
from cdnow. seems a bit weird.

ab

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From: Christopher William Niemitz <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) NIN
Date: 19 Mar 1997 21:05:51 -0800 (PST)


....well, now the latest is that there IS in fact an Orb remix
of "Perfect Drug" & it'll be out in a few weeks.


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From: Malcolm Irvine <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) Drum'n'bass on Secrets
Date: 20 Mar 1997 10:51:30 +0000 (GMT)



With regrds to the bloke who was talking about dnb or lackoff in
Orblivion in the 2 radio sessions secrets had brief periods of drum n
bass but nothing that would worry ltj bukem.

 I don't think you can deny they hve been INFLUENCED by drum n bass but
they have'nt converted or anything they're still mellow fuked - up music.

 malcy

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (orb) CAMPUS/MANRAY,March 22,Cambridge,MA,USA
Date: 20 Mar 1997 10:29:49 EST

Orbiters, there is an Orblivion release party set
for the Liquid night at the club Manray, Saturday,
March 22, 10pm or so, Cambridge, Massachusetts, USA.
Liquid Todd, a local DJ type, will be host and may
be DJ-ing that night, not sure.  Campus/Manray is
two-clubs-in-one located near Central Square,
Cambridge.  Liquid Saturdays have been marketed to
a mixed queer 18+ crowd.  The Manray floor tends
a little more toward techno and alternative sounds
and the Campus floor tends to have more bouncy
house music, but it depends on who's the DJ.

Will let you know if any interesting promo stuff
get distributed.  Friends went to the Aphex Twin
and Moby release parties.  The Aphex night had
masks with the face of Richard from Richard D. James
album, but most people did not know what to make
of them.  The Moby night had 2-track promo CDs with the
album and "clean" versions of 'That's When I Reach
For My Revolver'.

__Matt

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From: Michael Duffy <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) DC SHOW!!!!!
Date: 20 Mar 1997 12:26:11 -0500 (EST)

Hi there...

Just for those in the Baltimore/DC area who didn't know.....ORB is at the
9:30 Club in DC Saturday May 10....tickets are unfortunately
pricey....$23.25 I believe with all the charges....less at the door...it
probably won't sell out (Orbital didn't)....I'm going to first try and get
on the guest
list from my connections at my school newspaper.....anyway, that's the
news....I'm definitely going, no matter what...anybody want to meet up???

Later

Mike


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From: "Lazlo Nibble" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) cdnow - orb vinyl
Date: 20 Mar 1997 10:34:39 -0700 (MST)

>   $  19.99 CD    A Hugh Ever Growing Brain Uk (12 INCH) (VINYL) (MR. Modo)
>   $  19.99 CD    Kiss (12 INCH) (VINYL) Uk  (MR. Modo)
> ---
> from cdnow. seems a bit weird.

That tears it -- these have absolutely, positively been bootlegged.

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From: "Lazlo Nibble" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) Asylum UK Imports
Date: 20 Mar 1997 10:37:32 -0700 (MST)

> I just noticed according to cdnow.com (I'm in a rural area - no stores :) )
> that they've added Asylum singles #1/#2 as being available for $12.49/ea.
> excluding the $3.50 or so it'd take to deliver by post.
>
> I'm curious if anyone knows what the availability on these are insofar as
> being able to find them at semi-specialty shops in the US (meaning not
> Camelot, etc.....) and if $12.49 is a good price or not.  cdnow usually
> is a lot more expensive on these things.

I don't think the singles have actually been issued yet, but when they are I
assume they'll be available about as widely as "Toxygene" was.  $12.49 strikes
me as very very expensive for UK singles; places like Ear/Rational will
probably be selling them for a little over nine bucks (and UK readers will no
doubt be able to find them for Lstg. 1.50 or so -- less than three dollars
American -- for the first week of release, as usual).

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From: Christopher William Niemitz <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) FS: O.O.B.E. Adventure
Date: 20 Mar 1997 09:58:00 -0800 (PST)


I have an extra copy of this CD & booklet.
CD tracks: 1.) Alex vs. KLF 10.18 2.) Orb vs. Coldcut/Kiss FM 14.26

drop a line if you want it.


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From: Robert Sink <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) DC SHOW!!!!!
Date: 20 Mar 1997 13:38:36 -0500 (EST)

Michael Duffy has written:
> Hi there...
> Just for those in the Baltimore/DC area who didn't know.....ORB is at the
> 9:30 Club in DC Saturday May 10....tickets are unfortunately
> pricey....$23.25 I believe with all the charges....less at the door...it
[stuff deleted]

You can see more info on the 930 Club at:

http://www.930.com and specifically about the Orb/930 Club at:

http://www.930.com/shows

I'm planning on being there if its any consolation.  :)

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From: "Lazlo Nibble" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) ORBULLETIN: Tour Dates, etc.
Date: 20 Mar 1997 11:54:11 -0700 (MST)

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From the updated orbulletins page:

The Orb are slated to contribute a track to the upcoming Can remix album, due
in May

The current list of tour dates:

            thu 20 mar - glasgow barrowlands - 8pm to 2am
                  djs: witchman, thomas fehlmann, dr lx paterson
                  tickets: 0131 557-6969 / 0141 339-8383 (10 quid)
            fri 21 mar - birmingham que club - 8pm to 2am
                  djs: witchman, thomas fehlmann, dr lx paterson
                  tickets: 0121 212-0770 / 0121 643-6103 (10 quid)
            sat 22 mar - brixton academy - 9pm to 6am all-nighter - with
                  dreadzone
                  djs: andrew weatherall, kris needs, dj lewis, witchman,
                  thomas
                  fehlmann, dr lx paterson
                  tickets: 0171 344-4444 (15 quid)

            thu 27 mar - bossa nova @ the pink - 10pm
                  2810 main st. (2 blocks s. of oceak park) - santa monica, ca
                  lx paterson dj gig only - $15

            tue 1 apr - oslo centrum
            wed 2 apr - stockholm gino
            fri 4 apr - copenhagen vega
            sat 5 apr - berlin arena
            sun 6 apr - hamburg grossfreheit
            mon 7 apr - cologne move club
            wed 9 apr - milan tbc
            fri 11 apr - paris aqua blvd
            sat 12 apr - brussels ancienne belgique
            sun 13 apr - amsterdam paradiso

            most of the following dates were gathered for us from polygram's
            web site by hugh finney and have not yet been confirmed for us by
            the orb's promo staff; please contact local venues for details:

            18 apr - ritz theatre, tampa
            19 apr - masquerade, atlanta
            21 apr - tba, new orleans
            23 apr - tba, austin
            25 apr - tba, detroit
            26 apr - aragon, chicago
                  w/chem bros - tickets $20.50 - [phone]
            28 apr - dv8, seatlle
            1 may - mayan theater, los angeles
            2 may - maritime hall, san francisco
            3 may - huntridge, las vegas
            5 may - tba, salt lake city
            6 may - aztlan theater, denver
            9 may - hammerstein, new york city
            10 may - 9:30 club, washington dc
                  tickets $23.25
            12 may - avalon, boston
            13 may - tba, toronto

            24 may - essential music festival, uk

            4 jul - madison square garden, new york city


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From: "Iain Newton" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) orb in nyc
Date: 20 Mar 1997 16:13:43 -0500

orb in nyc
just to let people know who are as interested as me in seeing the orb - the date
in new york is may 9th at the "hammerstein" in nyc - a number of people have
been trying to find out where/what is the hammerstein - well, it would appear it
is manhattan center - hope this helps for those trying to get tickets - cheers

iain

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From: Steve Littleton <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) Chicago show
Date: 20 Mar 1997 16:10:44 -0600 (CST)

I tried to call the Aragon to get tickets to the Orb show there, but they
said I had to call Ticketmaster (yay).  So I called the local
Ticketmaster there and they had no idea what I was talking about.  Help!
Does anyone know how I can get tickets?  Dear God, if I don't see them in
Chicago, I'll have to drive eight hours to Detroit!
Steve

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From: Dave Cowen <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) Chicago show
Date: 21 Mar 1997 00:47:13 -0600

At 04:10 PM 3/20/97 -0600, you wrote:
>I tried to call the Aragon to get tickets to the Orb show there, but they
>said I had to call Ticketmaster (yay).  So I called the local
>Ticketmaster there and they had no idea what I was talking about.  Help!
>Does anyone know how I can get tickets?  Dear God, if I don't see them in
>Chicago, I'll have to drive eight hours to Detroit!
>Steve

When trying to get information on obscure acts from Ticketmaster, it
helps not to use the band name, but give them the venue and the date.
Example: "I'm looking for two tickets to the Orb show at Chicago's
Aragon on April 26th".  They'll be much more responsive.  Tickets -are-
available for that show.

You can bet your bootus I'll be there.  The first time I saw the Orb in '93
at Metro, I went with two of my friends.  In 95 at the Riviera, there were
four of us.  Now, in 97, looks like 8 of us are going.  Andy, if you're
reading this, you can chalk up any increasing midwestern US sales of Orb
materials to my efforts... ;)

Oh yeah... I haven't commented on Orblivion yet.  After having been mildly
dissapointed with the Orb's output over the last few years (except for being
blown away by the '95 show I went to), I'm really glad that they've come
out with an album as good as Orblivion.  I keep thinking when I listen to
it that it's like a funnier, more f.u. System 7 album -- which I think is
high praise indeed.  I can't wait to hear what they're doing with these
tracks live...

signed: ESCHATFISCHE, david       h t t p : / /w w w . f i s c h e . c o m
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From: Smiley <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) Orb vs Tangerine Dream
Date: 21 Mar 1997 09:44:57 GMT


i saw a promo of this yesterday, but didn't pick it up - WAY TOO EXPENSIVE! :-<

anyway, the press sheet said that it's scheduled for commercial release in the
uk on april 14th...

laters.

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From: Daneel Olivaw <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) barcodes/mark of the beast/drum and bass?/samples
Date: 21 Mar 1997 04:47:12 +0500

>>>But what country are you in? Unbeknownst to many people is that the
>UPC is NOT universal but varies by country...and that there's about 30
>different types and versions of barcodes out there, from the original
>1973 version to the new 2-dimentional barcodes. Like most
>superstitious nonsense, it breaks down when you look at the specifics.
>>>
>
>Agreed!  The first thing I did when I heard S.A.L.T. was to look at the
>Barcode on Orblivion.  The barcode of the domestic release has *no* 6's at
>all.
>
>What a great album though... "Secrets" is great.... the hidden track (which
>I believe is "72" for whoever was asking) is also nice... A good solid
>album.

I don't post much or never at all, since I joined this list, but there are
three things I'd like to bring up that interested me.  We seemed to have
determined that the sample in front of S.A.L.T. is erroneous, misinformed,
and/or outdated, but what about the other "fact!!" s that he tells us?
They are easily proven or misproven.  The planets and the cross thing, the
tattooing thing, and most easily, Chernobyl translating to "Wormwood" and
Wormwood actually being in Revelations.  I'm surre almost anyone who
listens to that sample wonders how much/little is true.  Another thing,
related to the sample theme: Is there a list anywhere of known Orb samples?
 I know that Delerium/Front Line Assembly/etc fans have a list of samples
collected, but I cannot recall a list for the Orb like that.  Is the
S.A.L.T. sample from the movie Naked?  I seem to remember that there was to
be long samplings from that movie in some song on this album.  As to the
debate as to whether Orblivion has any drum-n-bass influences, I'd like to
add my two cents:  What I've thought, and said, since I heard Orblivion was
that LX, or whoever, basically had enough drum-and-bass-ey-type beats to
say : "Yeah, we know drum-and-bass exists, but we're not gonna follow that
trend"  That's the way I took it, anyway...Oh, before I end this letter, I
want to say: "shite" so I show how british I can be/act.  So, shite shite
shite.  Let's all say it together "SHITE!"  sorry...

Emmett
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From: basehead <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) Orb vs Tangerine Dream
Date: 21 Mar 1997 11:43:21 -0500 (EST)




On Fri, 21 Mar 1997, Smiley wrote:

> i saw a promo of this yesterday, but didn't pick it up - WAY TOO EXPENSIVE! :-<
>
> anyway, the press sheet said that it's scheduled for commercial release in the
> uk on april 14th...
>
> laters.


must be the two orb mixes of 'towards the evening star'

-dan



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From: Smiley <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) Orb vs Tangerine Dream
Date: 21 Mar 1997 16:51:28 GMT

basehead writes:
> On Fri, 21 Mar 1997, Smiley wrote:
> > i saw a promo of this yesterday, but didn't pick it up - WAY TOO EXPENSIVE!
> > anyway, the press sheet said that it's scheduled for commercial release in
> > the uk on april 14th...

> must be the two orb mixes of 'towards the evening star'

only the one 'orb' mix on the promo. it's backed by the original version. i
assume that both mixes will appear on the commercial release...

laters.

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From: Kristin Maling <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) new / tour dates?
Date: 21 Mar 1997 12:35:48 -0500

hello,

i'm new to this list (though not to the orb) and I'm just wondering if
anyone can give me a list ov orb tour dates?  last time they were here
(Toronto, Canada) was during june ov '95 and I was in England during this
time so I missed them.

So, if anyone can supply me with some infomration it would be most appreicated!

takk,
kristin


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From: Wallace Winfrey <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) barcodes/mark of the beast/drum and bass?/samples  list?
Date: 21 Mar 1997 12:07:45 -0600 (CST)

On Fri, 21 Mar 1997, Daneel Olivaw wrote:

> listens to that sample wonders how much/little is true.  Another thing,
> related to the sample theme: Is there a list anywhere of known Orb samples?

There's a fairly old (it dates from 4/12/93) sample list available at

http://www.theorb.com/archives/textual/orb.sample.index.930412

cheers

wally

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From: "beRt d'Eon" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) barcodes/mark of the beast/drum and bass?/samples
Date: 21 Mar 1997 14:04:20 -0400

At 04:47 AM 3/21/97 +0500, you wrote:
>
>
>
>Another thing,
>related to the sample theme: Is there a list anywhere of known Orb samples?
> I know that Delerium/Front Line Assembly/etc fans have a list of samples
>collected, but I cannot recall a list for the Orb like that.
>Emmett
>[e-mail]


That would be a great thing to do.
With all the collective knowledge on this group, someone could make up an
html list of Orb samples. Like the list/archive of Skinny Puppy samples at:
http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/jdeell/puppy/

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (orb) grain of salt
Date: 21 Mar 1997 13:50:12 -0500 (EST)


In a message dated 3/21/97 5:58:43 PM, you wrote:

<<I'm surre almost anyone who
listens to that sample wonders how much/little is true.>>

Well, er...no. I've never questioned it any more than if Ricky Lee Jones is
telling the truth about what the skies were like in Arizona. I think it's
supposed to be fun, not a mystical revelation.

-David

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From: Anthony Bryan <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) samples list?
Date: 21 Mar 1997 16:36:41 -0500 (EST)

> > listens to that sample wonders how much/little is true.  Another thing,
> > related to the sample theme: Is there a list anywhere of known Orb samples?
>
> There's a fairly old (it dates from 4/12/93) sample list available at
>
> http://www.theorb.com/archives/textual/orb.sample.index.930412

I've been 'working' on one too. not very much info on it right now
(sloth), but if people would mail me stuff I would update it.

here it is:
http://palmnet.pbac.edu/users/bryanal/orbknow.htm

ab

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From: "IceBerg" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) Chicago show
Date: 21 Mar 1997 19:45:55 +0000

> Date:          Thu, 20 Mar 1997 16:10:44 -0600 (CST)
> From:          Steve Littleton <[e-mail]>
> Subject:       (orb) Chicago show
> To:            the Orb mailing list <[e-mail]>

> I tried to call the Aragon to get tickets to the Orb show there, but they
> said I had to call Ticketmaster (yay).  So I called the local
> Ticketmaster there and they had no idea what I was talking about.  Help!
> Does anyone know how I can get tickets?  Dear God, if I don't see them in
> Chicago, I'll have to drive eight hours to Detroit!
> Steve
>

     Yea ticket master sucks, and they wont know anything untill
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From: Christopher William Niemitz <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) Future Music arrived.....
Date: 21 Mar 1997 23:25:07 -0800 (PST)


Well my local bookstore finally got copies of the
March issue & so i plunked down my $9 for that
Orb track, got it home & 2 1/2 minutes into the
track the sound drops out for about a second.

Wouldn't you know it...the first error I come across
on a CD & it's on an Orb track...

anyone else have this problem?


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (orb) Toronto ORB show
Date: 22 Mar 1997 16:39:56 -0500


It's been confirmed: the ORB are playing at the WAREHOUSE on May 13, NOT
the Opera House. Whcih is too bad, really, because the Warehouse doesn't
have the best acoustics...opening act is unconfirmed, but the Chem Bros
are still mentioned in the rumours...

And don't bother looking for tickets yet....they'll probably go on sale
in the first few weeks of April.

More info when it becomes available...

James

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From: Smiley <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) brixton gig/tangerine dream/gary numan cover
Date: 24 Mar 1997 10:18:37 GMT


greetings, orbsters!

apologies in advance for the short message - i'll go into greater detail later
in the week, once i've managed to get some sleep! ;-)

the line up for the brixton all-nighter was:

9-10pm        lx paterson
10-11        andy weatherall
11-11.30    witchman
11.45-12.30    dreadzone
12.30-1.30am    thomas fehlmann
1.30-3.00    the orb
3.00-4.30    dj lewis
4.30-6.00    kris needs

comments and MY OWN opinions later this week...

********************************************************************************

i picked up the tangerine dream promo with the orb mix on friday. it's pretty
good, but i need to listen to it a few more times before giving a more detailed
'review'. i was surprised at how good the original version was, as i've never
been much of a TD fan - it's absolutely superb!

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i also heard the orb's gary numan track last week - they've done 'cars' - and
it's absolutely brilliant...

it's a kind of remix AND cover version, 'cos they use some of his vocals, but
the music is all orb - it's really hard to describe, but lx slipped it into
his dj set on saturday night, and it seemed to go down well...

anyhoo, that's enough for know - i've still got to get through another seven
hours of work, and an hour-and-a-half trip home, b4 i can go back to bed! ;-)

laterzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz........

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From: [e-mail] (Nico Baars)
Subject: (orb) Worst nightmare (x 1000)
Date: 24 Mar 1997 13:19:21 +0100

Hi Orbies,

Imagine your worst nightmare and multiplie it with 1000. Maybe you're near
the feeling I got when last friday in London I found out at Stargreen
Boxoffice that something went wrong with my creditcardnumber and they
already sold the tickets I booked!!!!

The six of us went to London fridaymorning to do some shopping and go to The
Orb at Brixton Acadamy on saturdaynight. A couple of weeks ago I made a
reservation for six tickets at Stargreen Boxoffice by phone.
I gave my cardnumber twice and the girl on the phone replied it also twice
because I wanna make sure everything go well. SO friday afternoon I went to
get the tickets to found out something went wrong with it!!

Last week I also arranged a photopass via Island Records to do to a review
for Dutch Magazine Bassic Groove. Friday afternoon I spent a lot of time
calling and visiting Brixton Acadamy, Island Records, record shops and other
tickets agencies but it all tickets were sold and there were no returns. So,
fucking hell, no Orb concert for us!!!

The whole weekend was fun after all. Bought some very nice and rare Orb
things at Camden Town, visited a lot of pubs, enjoyed some nice Tanodoori
and Thai food and did lots of other things.

But hey, we should have been at Brixton Acadamy saturdaynight....

Nico

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From: Rob Buse <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) Detroit Show
Date: 24 Mar 1997 09:16:51 -0500 (EST)


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Subject: Re: (orb) grain of salt
Date: 22 Mar 1997 12:48:46 -0700 (MST)


David wrote:
> Well, er...no. I've never questioned it any more than if Ricky Lee Jones is
> telling the truth about what the skies were like in Arizona. I think it's
> supposed to be fun, not a mystical revelation.

    I just wanted to add that the skies in Arizona are very beautiful
indeed. Plus being here in phoenix, thepollution makes nice colors too.
I though about doing a video for LFC and showing all the smog, and car
bealching blue and purple smoke.  But I'm too lazy.
    But my point is, Ricky Lee is telling the truth.

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From: Christina White <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) brixton gig/tangerine dream/gary numan cover
Date: 24 Mar 1997 11:23:11 -0500 (EST)



On Mon, 24 Mar 1997, Smiley wrote:

>
> greetings, orbsters!
>
> i also heard the orb's gary numan track last week - they've done 'cars' - and
> it's absolutely brilliant...
>
> it's a kind of remix AND cover version, 'cos they use some of his vocals, but
> the music is all orb - it's really hard to describe, but lx slipped it into
> his dj set on saturday night, and it seemed to go down well...
>

If that's the same version that's on the Orbradio Realaudio broadcast on
the UK Orblivion site, I think it might be a Witchman remix.  At least
that's what's etched into the 12" I have.  Great breaks either way.  Check
it out:  www.orblivion.co.uk/sounds/orbradio.ram


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (orb) release party at Liquid, Cambridge, MA, USA
Date: 24 Mar 1997 11:27:28 EST

The Orblivion release party at Campus/ManRay, in
Cambridge, MA, USA, took place March 22, as part
of Liquid, Saturday queer techno night hosted by
Liquid Todd.  The release party part of it consisted
of very big Orblivion poster with UK tour dates
listed at bottom and a drawing for ten copies
of "Orb vinyl" (which may be the album or something
else, did not say).  The drawing was to take place
later.  Other than that, the music was okay, with
the coolest sounding track being the club mix
of Way Out West's 'The Gift', very breakbeat and
a bunch of other things.  Sounded like one of the
drum & bass mixes of Everything But The Girl,
at first.  Did not hear any Orb.

Next week's release party is for the 'Insomnia'
single by Faithless.  Copies of the CD single will
be given out to first 100 patrons.

Faithless related info on my page at:

http://www.mit.edu:8001/people/mattski/Rollo

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From: Smiley <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) Re: gary numan cover
Date: 24 Mar 1997 17:06:15 GMT

Christina White writes:
> On Mon, 24 Mar 1997, Smiley wrote:
> > i also heard the orb's gary numan track last week - they've done 'cars' -
> > and it's absolutely brilliant...
> > it's a kind of remix AND cover version, 'cos they use some of his vocals,
> > but the music is all orb - it's really hard to describe, but lx slipped it
> > into his dj set on saturday night, and it seemed to go down well...

> If that's the same version that's on the Orbradio Realaudio broadcast on
> the UK Orblivion site, I think it might be a Witchman remix.  At least
> that's what's etched into the 12" I have.  Great breaks either way.  Check
> it out:  www.orblivion.co.uk/sounds/orbradio.ram

i dunno, 'cos i haven't managed to get anywhere with it yet - i keep getting
server problems....the one time it did recieve, it played about 2 seconds and
then stopped! :-<

i don't suppose anyone has it on their hard disk, and could send it to me via
email...?

lemme know.

laters.

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From: Christina White <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) Re: gary numan cover
Date: 24 Mar 1997 15:56:55 -0500 (EST)



On Mon, 24 Mar 1997, Smiley wrote:

> Christina White writes:
>
> > If that's the same version that's on the Orbradio Realaudio broadcast on
> > the UK Orblivion site, I think it might be a Witchman remix.  At least
> > that's what's etched into the 12" I have.  Great breaks either way.  Check
> > it out:  www.orblivion.co.uk/sounds/orbradio.ram
>
> i dunno, 'cos i haven't managed to get anywhere with it yet - i keep getting
> server problems....the one time it did recieve, it played about 2 seconds and
> then stopped! :-<

Try going to straight to www.orblivion.co.uk . Click Orblivion to enter
the site, then on the contents page click on the bottom cluster of circles
on the right side, and there ya go, Orbradio.

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From: Smiley <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) gary numan cover
Date: 25 Mar 1997 11:24:31 GMT

Christina White writes:
> If that's the same version that's on the Orbradio Realaudio broadcast on
> the UK Orblivion site, I think it might be a Witchman remix.  At least
> that's what's etched into the 12" I have.  Great breaks either way.  Check
> it out:  www.orblivion.co.uk/sounds/orbradio.ram

is it a witchman remix of the orb cover version, or the original...?

laters.

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From: Smiley <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) brixton gig
Date: 25 Mar 1997 10:42:53 GMT


yesterday, while in a condition fast approaching a coma, i wrote...

> apologies in advance for the short message - i'll go into greater detail
> later in the week, once i've managed to get some sleep! ;-)
> the line up for the brixton all-nighter was:
> 9-10pm    lx paterson
> 10-11        andy weatherall
> 11-11.30    witchman
> 11.45-12.30    dreadzone
> 12.30-1.30am    thomas fehlmann
> 1.30-3.00    the orb
> 3.00-4.30    dj lewis
> 4.30-6.00    kris needs
> comments and MY OWN opinions later this week...

ok, here we go...

well, the day started when we (me and nicki, my g/f) met up with sean from the
list, along with his g/f rachel, and his friend ian - who had all come from new
york for the gig. that's dedication for you....

we went up to camden, and i dragged everyone around a few record shops. sean
cleared them out of orb stuff, so he seemed pretty happy. ;-)

we then met up with JC (of this parish), and his g/f sophie - they had both
travelled over from paris. so, we adjourned to "the world's end" pub for a beer
or two, and the first official meeting of the international orb listers....! ;-)

we got down to brixton at about 8.30-8.45, and has to queue for a while, as the
doors didn't open 'til 9pm.  we were all a bit concerned, 'cos none of us
actually had any tickets at that point - sean and jc had to collect them on the
way in at the box office, and me and nicki were supposed to be on the guest
list...

nico - really sorry to hear about the fuck-up with your tickets. you should
really give stargreen some shit over this....

anyway, we all got in ok. me and nicki were on the list - thankyou andy hughes,
you are indeed a gentleman and a top man!

the academy has a sloping floor, but most of it had been levelled off to make a
dance floor.

the music was already banging away when we got in - i only knew that it was lx
djing, 'cos i saw the running order backstage. i think most people had no idea
who it was, as all the djing was done offstage - faceless techno bollocks
indeed!

lx played a pretty good set, with a good variety of stuff. andy weatherall
played a blinding set - the place was starting to fill up pretty rapidly by
now, and before he had finished the dance floor was packed with people.

witchman was pretty good - just one guy with a bunch of sequencers, samplers
and stuff - drum 'n' bass stuff. i'd quite like to hear him on record, but i
don't think his music will change my life..

next up were dreadzone, who do absolutely nothing for me...nicki wanted to see
them, but decided against it after the first couple of songs, so we went up to
the guest bar for a drink, and a bit more space.

the guest bar was directly above the auditorium, and you could look through the
windows onto the scene below. there were a bunch of separate djs just for this
bar - there was a female dj who played some pretty good stuff, but i have no
idea who she was...

i bumped into andy weatherall in the bar, but didn't get a chance to talk to
him, although i did try - sorry ernie! :-<

anyway, i saw andy hughes in there, and spoke to him briefly. i'm amazed that
he knew who i was, and checked that i got in ok. he also asked after JC. the
upshot of the conversation was that andy was, quote 'shitting his pants',
unquote. he couldn't understand why, 'cos he'd been touring for two weeks...

i asked him how the manchester all-nighter went, and he thought it had gone
pretty well, but they'd pissed off the local press by cancelling all their
interviews that day...

he disappeared backstage soon after, so we went back down to have a listen to
thomas felhmann. not too impressed - he just appeared to be playing the same
song for about a hour... :-<

the orb came on at 1.30am precisely, to the strains of the 'sportsnight' theme
tune, as they had at the astoria in january.

they opened up with 'passing of time', 'secrets' and 'asylum'. other tracks
were, in no particular order...delta mkII, outlands, star 6 7 8 9, log of dead
wood, s.a.l.t, and finished up with toxygene.

it was a pretty good set, but i'm probably the wrong person to review it, as it
wasn't much different from the astoria set - which isn't surprising, as it
was a warm-up for this tour - but it went down VERY WELL with the packed
crowd. the set only lasted an hour an twenty minutes, and most people were
upset that they didn't come back on for an encore. i didn't think that the set
was as 'tight' as the astoria gig, but that's just a matter of opinion...

if you haven't seen the orb for a while, prepare yourself for a blinding show -
lights, projections, music and all!

after a long pause while the crowd were waiting for a encore, dj lewis came on
and carried on where thomas felhmann left off... :-< we went upstairs for a bit
of a sit down for a hour or so, before meeting up with the others, and leaving
about 4-4.30am.....

so in conclusion - if you haven't got your tickets yet, get 'em, 'cos you'll
miss a good night out.

and then.....we slept, and slept, and slept...

laters.

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Smiley

ps. JC - i hope you got to waterloo ok for your train...
pps. sean - i hope you all got back to your hotel ok...

lemme know.

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From: Smiley <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) Re: gary numan cover
Date: 25 Mar 1997 10:21:16 GMT

Christina White writes:
> > > If that's the same version that's on the Orbradio Realaudio broadcast on
> > > the UK Orblivion site, I think it might be a Witchman remix.  At least
> > > that's what's etched into the 12" I have.  Great breaks either way.  Check
> > > it out:  www.orblivion.co.uk/sounds/orbradio.ram
> >
> > i dunno, 'cos i haven't managed to get anywhere with it yet - i keep
> > getting server problems....the one time it did recieve, it played about 2
> > seconds and then stopped! :-<
>
> Try going to straight to www.orblivion.co.uk . Click Orblivion to enter
> the site, then on the contents page click on the bottom cluster of circles
> on the right side, and there ya go, Orbradio.

err, i do. THAT'S when i get the problems.....

laters.

--
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From: Christina White <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) Re: gary numan cover
Date: 25 Mar 1997 12:12:44 -0500 (EST)


As far as accessing the Orbradio Realaudio broadcast from the UK website,
I've had no problems (except when I went straight to
www.orblivion.co.uk/sound/orbradio.ram. Guess they changed the permissions
so you can't download the .ra files)  You may want to check the version of
your RA Player and make sure its at least version 3.

As for the Orb covering or remixing "Cars", can anyone confirm this?  Are
you just assuming this was done by the Orb because Alex dropped it in his
set?  I know they remixed "Jo The Waiter" but I can't seem to find any
info about a Cars remix.  Maybe I'm not looking hard enough.

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From: [e-mail] (Nico Baars)
Subject: Re: (orb) brixton gig
Date: 25 Mar 1997 19:15:26 +0100

Smiley wrote:

>nico - really sorry to hear about the fuck-up with your tickets. you should=
=20
>really give stargreen some shit over this....

Yeah, friday afternoon I really don't know what to say to the girl behind
the counter because I was so pissed and amazed (in a very negative way).

After I explained I special came from Holland that weekend to visit The Orb
concert she told me she really,really want to sell me six tickets because
Stargreen make about =A32.5 a ticket!!!!
So after I checked the visa number she tried to contact and saw they wrote
down the wrong number I gave them some fucks and more of that, but hey that
still keep me from the six tickets I needed.

So I left feeling depressed to tell my five friends who were'n very happy
when I told them (understatement of the year, I think!)
We got the tickets for april 13th Amsterdam but London should have been the
place!

Nico

BTW we we're in Camden all saturday so maybe we met without knowing!

Bought most of the Orb stuff that day at a small place at Camden Lock market
at the other side of the road next to the Dingwall building. Was suprised to
find that much rare stuff on CD and vinyl in one place. Not only Orb but
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From: Jeffrey Boyd <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) Orb in San Francisco
Date: 25 Mar 1997 11:22:10 -0700 (PDT)

Ok, what's the deal with the Orb in SF? I have gotten two different
stories - this list claims that they'll be playing at the Maritime Hall
on May 2nd. Ultraworld's tour date listing has theym playing March 2nd in
Las Vegas and on the 4th at the Concourse in SF with the Chemical
Brothers. What's the deal? I can't seem to be able to get hold of the
Maritime Hall to confirm. Does anybody know the official scoop?

thanks,
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From: "Lazlo Nibble" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) Orb in San Francisco
Date: 25 Mar 1997 13:47:41 -0700 (MST)

> Ok, what's the deal with the Orb in SF? I have gotten two different
> stories - this list claims that they'll be playing at the Maritime Hall
> on May 2nd. Ultraworld's tour date listing has theym playing March 2nd in
> Las Vegas and on the 4th at the Concourse in SF with the Chemical
> Brothers. What's the deal? I can't seem to be able to get hold of the
> Maritime Hall to confirm. Does anybody know the official scoop?

The dates currently on the Ultraworld page came directly from the Orb's
promotions staff and are supposed to be current as of yesterday morning.

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From: djdan <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) updated bpm list
Date: 25 Mar 1997 12:44:00 -0800

Just to let you know...I have an updated Orb BPM list including the new
stuff. The list has over 125 entries in order from slowest to fastest. If
you want me to send you this list, let me know _and_ tell me if you want it
in .txt or msword file...k?
Also...anyone from Vancouver canada going to the seattle show? I'd love to
team up with you...or is the orb coming to vancouver like the last tour?
ok thats all
peace!
djdan
ps - has anyone noticed track 6 - "pi" on orblivion sounds like its got some
oobe samples way in the backgroung right at the beginning???

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From: [e-mail] (Rachel)
Subject: Re: (orb) Orb in San Francisco
Date: 25 Mar 1997 13:18:54 -0800

well, here's my sources: (admittedly, no better than anyone else's)

http://www.hyperreal.com/raves/sf/index.html
states May2nd, Orb with Chemical Brothers

Andy Hughes said May 2nd on a live chat a few weeks ago

I actually did get someone at the Maritime Hall to say yes, they were
playing May 2nd, but tix weren't on sale until April....

where the hell is the Concourse anyway?

FunkyTechnoTribe claims to be on top of the gig, and they say it's on May
2nd also....

besides, May 4th is a sunday... a rather strange night for the Orb gig,
wouldn't ya say?

i guess at this point, it's a wait and see thing... i'm hoping for the 2nd...
=)
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From: basehead <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) ahhhh
Date: 25 Mar 1997 16:48:51 -0500 (EST)



alright, i'm ready to bang heads... =)

i am REALLY dying for blue room, pereptual dawn, and assassin..
the vinyl single releases.. i will pay good money for them, trust me,
if anybody out there has doubles, has singles and wants to sell, or
has a store near them where they can get it.. i will send you the
money for them, i just cannot find them anywhere around here (since
this area sucks for vinyl-hunting).. so PLEASE, help me out! =)

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From: [e-mail] (Rachel)
Subject: (orb) more SF info (or lack of it)
Date: 25 Mar 1997 14:22:40 -0800

the SF Raves page just yanked their Orb listing....

hmmm.....
no word of it on the event line for the Concourse, though (not that their
announcement is even remotely recent or anything either...) hear for
yourself at: 415-864-1500 (ask for the event line)

i shiver with antici-





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=)
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From: [e-mail] (Jean Christophe Derrien)
Subject: (orb) Re : Brixton Gig -the french POV
Date: 26 Mar 1997 00:42:18 +0100

Great review you did, Smiley, as always !
I was slightly disappointed by the length of the Orb set (I remember the
Nimes gig in July 1995 where they played for 3 hours in an open arena (I
mean a real Roman arena !) so great, so ambient), but it was very very cool
to see them in the legendary Brixton Academy.

LX played "Always Returning" (Brian Eno) mixed with the Orb remix of Gary
Numan (can't wait the mid April release), which was a wonderful moment.

And I thought the other DJs sets surprisingly weren't very interesting,
especially the Thomas Fehlmann mix (or should I say it was the longest
boring techno single ever ?)

The group played a kick-ass Delta Mk II version, a Toxygene "all mixes
included" version... The music pieces were always filled with false ends,
just to start again and again.
I recognized a sample from their Mike Oldfield remix "Sentinel" between two
songs.
The light show was awesome, and the images from the background inventive.

And it was cool too to see so much merchandising like
A blue Toxygene tshirt
A sperm ovula Toxygene Tshirt
An auntie aubrey tshirt
an orblivion cover tshirt
an Orb mug
a grey Orb hat !

Disappointed that I hadn't talk to Andy, but I'm happy that he talked about
me with Smiley.

When you hear Orb in England, it's really different; seems that they belong
to there, with their humour, their bizarre creativity... Just listen to
"OObe" while walking near the Battersea Power Station, and you'll know what
I mean.

I'll go again to see them in Paris, hoping this time to talk to Andy.

It was also great to meet other guys from the list. I think my english
improved this week end by learning new expressions for me, like arse and to
mess his kecks !

Some news :
The Can album remix "Sacrilege" will be released in UK in May, 5
The Tangerine dream vs Orb remix has been already released (since March,
20) in US on CD and 12", according to the TD Official web site. The cover
is blue, both of the releases contain the remix and the original version of
the track.
TD apparently didn't like the 7"remix, and thay didn't really like the
attitude of the Orbsters. Check it out for more info on this page.

I've got to go bed.
JC From Paris

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From: INTELLIJEL - Danjel van Tijn <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) AFX - non orb related
Date: 25 Mar 1997 16:47:12 -0500

I recently read an article where Richard James said for his next toour
he would like to bring only his laptop, FX preocessor, and 2 channel
mixer. When asked if he used any custom software he said some was
commercial and some was his own. Is he bullshitting? I know he has an
electronics background and that he supposed to be some sort of "prodigy"
but the programming tricks for heavy duty DSP processing are pretty
heavy. I would love to find out what software he uses and if it is
possible to get copies of his own. Any ideas?
cheers,
    Danjel
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From: INTELLIJEL - Danjel van Tijn <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) Orb listeners demo tape?
Date: 25 Mar 1997 16:49:34 -0500

They did this on the My Bloody Valentine list: Every body sends in their
demo tape to someone and then a mixtape is made and passed on to
everyone interested. This would be a cool way to get some criticism and
possibly some good attention at low cost. Is anyone interested?
cheers,
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From: "Ryan Platte" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) Chicago show
Date: 24 Mar 1997 20:12:44 -0500


Looks like there's going to be four of us Orb fans making the trek to the
Chicago show (still not sure I want to see the chemical brothers
particularly). Anyone want to possibly meet us, chill at some restaurant
afterwards? 'twould be good to meet some other orbient types...

...tidbits: ticketmaster is selling tickets for the show starting at noon
saturday -- before the lady realized the tickets weren't on sale yet, she
started reading all the no-moshing stuff...mental picture of someone trying
to mosh to the orb? I suppose it could be done, but... yikes.

I assured her it wouldn't be a problem with this responsible ticketholder.

Also, kinda sucks that it's an 18+ show...especially odd when you consider
that we saw LX in November DJing for *Meat Beat*, which was an all ages
show. hmmm, doesn't compute. too bad, had about six or seven people that
would have gone with us and had a good time.

Let me know if you want to join up, we'll work something out.

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From: "s.f.w.d." <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) Orb listeners demo tape?
Date: 25 Mar 1997 20:40:44 +0000

> They did this on the My Bloody Valentine list: Every body sends in their
> demo tape to someone and then a mixtape is made and passed on to
> everyone interested. This would be a cool way to get some criticism and
> possibly some good attention at low cost. Is anyone interested?
> cheers,

I'm interested... I have a DiY psuedo label where I am basically
doing this with ambient/noise/industrial/techno material... people
send a song in, I make a comp/mixed tape of it and send them back a
'master' that they can dub and distribute as they please... I'd be
very interested in particapating in any other such comp....
__________________________________________

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (orb) Cocksville/Axiom CD
Date: 26 Mar 1997 01:01:06 -0500 (EST)

Hiya all,
Can anyone give me there impression of the Orb track "Cocksville USA"? Is it
worth picking up the Axiom "Mysteries" CD for it? Also, on the other Axiom CD
it lists the Orb as having "contributed" to the album. Anyone know what the
extent of their contribution is, and if it's worth grabbing that disk as
well?

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From: Karsten Hammer Hansen <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) Orb listeners demo tape?
Date: 26 Mar 1997 08:16:47 +0100

INTELLIJEL - Danjel van Tijn wrote:
>
> They did this on the My Bloody Valentine list: Every body sends in their
> demo tape to someone and then a mixtape is made and passed on to
> everyone interested. This would be a cool way to get some criticism and
> possibly some good attention at low cost. Is anyone interested?
> cheers,
>         DAnjel

I think it's a great idea, I'm participating on the MBV list, so why not
contribute to this aswell?

Can't promise any electronis music tho'...

It's a great way to get your stuff out to broader audience without being
signed or spending loads of $$ on a self-financed release. Yup, yup!

Cheers,
The K.

BTW: Orb will be playing here in Oslo on the 1st of April, ticket's in
place and psyching up..

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From: Andy <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) What every Orb addict should know.
Date: 26 Mar 1997 01:56:29 -0600 (CST)

At 05:25 PM 2/17/97 -0600, you wrote:
>I think my opening message is the one LX wants a lot of people to realize.
>I think alot of people approach him expecting a guru and and he's not and
>he gets pissed off at people tacking all this shit onto him. Or maybe he's
>just an asshole, I dunno. The point is , YOU are the wizard of Orb, if
>you've had any amazing experiences while listening to the music, pat
>yourself on the cosmic back,it's not just the acid, you have magic in you!!
>Now if you can only learn how to work with it to make it stronger and share
>it with others, you'll really be in business.

I realize this is an extremly ancient message I am replying to, but I very
much agree, in more of a vague sort of way.

Art simply triggers the greatness within each of us. A song, a painting, or
a keen fractal, there all just objects, but with the listener or viewer,
they become a emotional experience. I have noticed a little change of pace
also for the orb. I seem to recall quotes about keeping the orb faceless,
yet we seem to see a great deal of photos now of Andy and LX, even one
included in their gem 'Orblivion.'
I totally dig thr orb in a major way, but thats about it. I think you have
to come to the realization that the art is not the artist(s) themselves, but
their molements of glory.


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From: "beRt d'Eon" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) Re: gary numan cover
Date: 26 Mar 1997 08:46:04 -0400

At 12:12 PM 3/25/97 -0500, you wrote:
>
>As far as accessing the Orbradio Realaudio broadcast from the UK website,
>I've had no problems (except when I went straight to
>www.orblivion.co.uk/sound/orbradio.ram. Guess they changed the permissions
>so you can't download the .ra files)  You may want to check the version of
>your RA Player and make sure its at least version 3.

The newest version is RealPlayer 4. It also does RealVideo now. You can get
it at:

http://www.real.com/products/player/index.html

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From: Smiley <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) CAN remix album
Date: 26 Mar 1997 13:52:35 GMT


did i mention that the can remix album will be called 'sacrilege'?

if i didn't, i have now. ;-)

laters.

--
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ps. JC told me that it's due for release on May 5th....

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From: "Lazlo Nibble" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) ORBULLETIN: Latest Tour Dates, Tangerine Dream remixes
Date: 26 Mar 1997 09:20:46 -0700 (MST)

# This is an Orb announcement from the ORBULLETINS mailing list.  ORBULLETINS
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# We're now on the web at http://www.theorb.com

The latest tour dates:

    27 mar - bossa nova @ the pink - 10pm
          2810 main st. (2 blocks s. of oceak park) - santa monica, ca
          lx paterson dj gig only - $15

    1 apr - rockerfella, oslo (cancelled; will be rescheduled)
    2 apr - electric circus, stockholm (cancelled; will be rescheduled)
    4 apr - vega, copenhagen (cancelled; will be rescheduled)
    5 apr - berlin arena, berlin (cancelled; will be rescheduled)
    6 apr - docks, hamburg (cancelled; will be rescheduled)
    7 apr - live music hall, cologne (cancelled; will be rescheduled)
    9 apr - palaconcerti, milan
    11 apr - aqua blvd, paris
    12 apr - ancienne belgique, brussels
    13 apr - paradiso, amsterdam

    18 apr - ritz theatre, tampa
    19 apr - masquerade, atlanta
    21 apr - house of blues, new orleans
    23 apr - music hall, austin
    24 apr - tba, dallas (w/chem bros, unconfirmed)
    26 apr - aragon, chicago (w/chem bros)
          tickets $20.50 - [phone]
    29 apr - dv8, seattle
    1 may - karma, los angeles
    2 may - the joint, las vegas (w/chem bros)
    4 may - the concourse, san francisco (w/chem bros)
    6 may - ogden theater, denver
    9 may - manhattan center, new york city
    10 may - 9:30 club, washington dc
          tickets $23.25
    12 may - avalon, boston (w/chem bros)
    13 may - rpm warehouse, toronto

    18 may - pink pop festival, holland
    24 may - brighton essential music festival, uk
    27 jun - glastonbury festival, uk
    29 jun - roskilde festival

    4 jul - madison square garden, new york city (unconfirmed)

The Orb remix of Tangerine Dream's "Toward The Evening Star" is reported out
in the US; there's a link to the sleeve art and related gossip available on
the Orbulletins page (http://www.theorb.com/orbulletins.html).

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From: [e-mail] (Rachel)
Subject: (orb) SELECT
Date: 26 Mar 1997 09:03:03 -0800

anyone catch the bizarre photo of LX  in his house close to the back cover
of this month's Select?  (yes, yes,  the issue with the giant piccie of the
Chemical Brothers on the front...)  most curious...



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (orb) Cocksville/Axiom CD
Date: 26 Mar 1997 12:18:33 -0500


> Can anyone give me there impression of the Orb track "Cocksville USA"? Is it
> worth picking up the Axiom "Mysteries" CD for it? Also, on the other Axiom CD
> it lists the Orb as having "contributed" to the album. Anyone know what the
> extent of their contribution is, and if it's worth grabbing that disk as
> well?

I think this was dealt with a while ago, but anyways.

Cocksville IS good, and it has a real 'orbus terrarum' feel to it. It
starts off real slow, takes about 5 minutes to build up, and then
releases its beat amid sounds of Alex imitating a chicken. It's actually
quite funny (and you get _real_ weird stares from people when you listen
to it).

But would you buy the album just for the song? Well, it's a 2 CD set with
some of the best dub I've heard in a while, and when I first went to buy
it I didn't even know the Orb were involved. It was just a super-duper
added bonus.

So I'd recommend you buy Mysteries of Creation. Not only will you get
Cocksville USA but you'll also get an awesome compilation with the likes
of DJ Spooky, Bill Laswell and other greats.

And the only Orb contribution to the album I can remember is the Cocksville
USA track, but I may be wrong as I don't have the booklet with me. But I
don't remember seeing anything else.

Hope this helps.

James



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From: [e-mail] (Sean Strout)
Subject: (orb) london orblivion (us report)
Date: 26 Mar 1997 09:28:05 PST

Just got back, here's a long winded blabbering:

Rachel, Ian and I were running about London, stuck in traffic on the way to the
Tower Bridge because of some large protest proceeding its way down
the road.  A couple of quick snaps and a spot of hot chocolate and
it was down to the Tube to meet the crew.  Met up with Sir Smiley and
g/f Nikki in Victoria and proceeded down to Camden Town.  Smiley was
the musical tour guide, merrily snatching Orb rarities out of
vinyl bins in many a shop like Willie Wonka in the chocolate factory.
Got Assassin 12", Tangerine Dream remix, YMO remix, System 7 Mircale
remix off Habib, and on and on...  Then we met up with JC and
Sophie from Paris who had been on a spree of their own and
decided to compare notes at the World's End pub.  After a few pints, a certain
Bush song came on the air and yes folks, Smiley *did* confess his secret passion
for the group.  ;-)  Sophie and JC recounted past Orb shows and we
all had a good time.  Smiley drilled me on the  "G'Day mate", "Thank ye Mate",
"Cheers Mate" rhetoric so I didn't appear to be too much of a
soggy american.

Next was a mad dash to get back to the hotel and meet up again with
everyone to go to Brixton.  The rain was coming on fierce by this
time.  In Brixton station, Smiley plucked the Herb Garden issue
with the Orb tape out of thin air into my surprised arms.  Many
a bloke were selling tickets to the show (very sorry Nico about
that ticket mess, that's a bunch of shite to put up with, did you
try getting on the guestlist or scalp tickets?).

We settled into the Academy around 9pm and were greeted with LX's
djing, although no one probably knew it.  It was some fantastic
drum n' bass that had me dancing in my mind.  Fehlmann next with
some ambient noodling and the ever so humble Witchman who started his
set off with a looped "Witchman! Witchman!" chant.
Then it was Dreadzone.  By this time things were getting quite packed so
we headed down front to check them out.  They greeted the crowd
with a knock your socks off bass line that rumbled the ground
and launched into their unique style of reggae/drum n bass/whatever
you want to call it (I think Smiley called it shite :) set.  Their
video was info overload, berzerkish, hectic freestyle images
that didn't stop pounding along with the music.  Interesting.

Orb was next, I think, somewhere around 1:30 am and they opened
with the sports sample and then Passing of Time.  Like Orblivion,
the music was *thick* with samples.  A smorgasborg of sound
that ebbed and flowed through soft, ambient landscapes
and dancey drum n bassy terrain.  Toxygene and Delta MK II
was infectious.  Outlands/Star 6789 was another treat - different
without the live band.  They also played Secrets, Asylum,
S.A.L.T. and Log of Deadwood.  Also Pi, which was simply
whacked out and grand.

All in all I felt the Orb set was just blindingly brilliant, albeit
far too short.   Loads of ambient segways and dancey bits.
The stage show is hard to describe - a tepee like metal structure with
two pods and 4-6 polygon screens for videos plus many lights projecting
triangles, circle clusters, etc.  The video work was quite good, very trancey
fractals and the sort and high quality.  I do wish they would have
encored, they left everyone in suspense for a while with no sound before DJ
Lewis came on.

I was surprised at how many people they packed into the academy.  There
was the main hall, sloped, which was packed to the hilt with mad
dancers and chill outs who tried to sit through the entire show.
Out in the foyer they were selling shirts, hats and the sort.
Rachel picked up an orange rib tshirt for 18 pounds or so.  All
along the walls up the stairway and in another hall were tons
of people sitting and talking.  In one section of the upstairs
hall a DJ was spinning some jungle and people were getting a good dance
out of it.

After the show we stumbled out into a rainy London AM, nabbed some
cardboarded orb posters off a side rail and headed on a night bus
to Victoria Station.  We grabbed a quick bite to eat.  Smiley and Nikki
were eating this whacky fries and ketchup in a pita meal that looked mighty
tasty.  We said our goodbyes and headed off in our own directions.
Smiley/Nikki to the rail, JC/Sophie for a walk to Waterloo to catch
their train, and we decided that it was time to take a taxi to
Russell Square given by a particularly nasty cab driver who didn't
care much for our sort. As we were driving past Hyde Park, we noticed
many people with heavy smiles and tired eyes emerging from the various
nightclubs.

A good time, well worth it.  Seeing Orb in London had a certain homey
feel to it.  The people were generally very friendly and chatty.
Thanks again go to Smiley, JC and group for a splendid time!  Now
if you're up for the NY and DC shows on May 9,10, give me a yell ;-)

cheers,
sean

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From: Anthony Bryan <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) OrbTampa
Date: 26 Mar 1997 12:09:22 -0500 (EST)

    Just passing on some info a friend sent about the orb show in
Tampa/Ybor City.

Anthony

from [e-mail] :

> >            most of the following dates were gathered for us from
> polygram's
>
> >            web site by hugh finney and have not yet been confirmed for
> us by
>
> >            the orb's promo staff; please contact local venues for
> details:
>
> >            18 apr - ritz theatre, tampa
>
> I just did a bit of research, and it turns out these are the details:
>
>
> 1) Ritz Theatre is no longer Ritz Theatre, it's been called "Masquerade"
> for about two years now.  It's located on 7th Avenue in Ybor City, near
> downtown Tampa.
>
>
> 2) The date that Masquerade has for The Orb is MAY 21, not April 18, the
> lady I spoke to said it's a definite, confirmed date, but she doesn't
> know if there are any opening acts, or any other details of the show, as
> logistics are being handled by an outside agency.
>
>
> 3) The phone number for Masquerade is [phone].

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From: [e-mail] (chris archibald)
Subject: (orb) delurking: orbital has saved some 300 of my coworkers
Date: 26 Mar 1997 19:09:11 GMT

begin rant
orbital has saved some 300 of my coworkers
am sorry but it's just one of them days.
am in I.S and i have been working on this dinosaur of a computer for
two days now. the customer is driving me nuts. ugggggggg.
non stop phone calls , email from the bosses, not enough email from my
honey, a server is down, coffee is REAL bad today,
well i just walked back in to my office thinking about  buying a
assault rifle ...picturing the 6oclock news
"GEEK kills hundreds at LSI logic film at 11"

then the  orbital cd on my desk that i left here at work.
plugged the cd in
turned off the ringer on the phone
turned off the monitors around me
shut my eyes and drifted off
da da da
ahh the sweet sounds of the box...
end rant
thanks all
chris

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From: [e-mail] (Sean Strout)
Subject: (orb) NYC orb - nothing yet
Date: 26 Mar 1997 12:11:48 PST

Still no confirmation on any Orb show in NYC.  Called
Manhattan Center's box office [phone].  They said
to call Ticketmaster NYC [phone].  They said
they had no entry for "The Orb" or "Orb", not at
"Hammerstein" and not at "Manhattan Center" and
not for May 9th, but would I like to get their monthly
magazine featuring fun family events for $1.50 each?

Manhattan Center's address:
  311 West 34th Street, NYC (between 8th and 9th avenues)

-s.

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From: " teiwaz  barana" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) Orb remixes Tangerine Dream
Date: 26 Mar 1997 13:05:38 -0800 (PST)

Orbies

(tried to send this twice earlier, but either my usa.net account (not likely)
or usa.net accounts in general (more likely) was identified by xmission.com as
a source of "excess" spamming--I've been blocked from sending email to the orb
list, but continue to receive orb-digests (what is the precise level that
spamming becomes excessive?) so I'll try to send it now from this hotmail
account.

Here's the "official" statement from www.netstore.de/tadream/
(The official Tangerine Dream Home Page) as of March 19th

>TD and The Orb Remix

Lot┤s of rumours about the Orb remix - incl. a statement in the Future Sound
magazine where The Orb are explaining their disappointment as far as their
working relationship with TD is concerned. Edgar & Jerome did┤nt like their
Radio Edit Mix of Towards the Evening Star that's true. But both agreed to the
Club release of Towards the Evening Star, which will hit the shops and radio
stations in the U.S. by March 20th - so far so good! So what's wrong about a
mix which does not meet the approval by TD 100%? None of The Orb members did
EVER contact TD or tried to communicate directly - Edgar & Jerome like to talk
to musicans and not to business executives lawers or the staff members of
someone's office. Main reason to be in the business is the music itself.

The Mandarin Cream Remix of Towards the Evening Star will be printed
on a CD single and a 12" vinyl containing also the original version of
the song.<

                   --teiwaz


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From: Christopher William Niemitz <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) TD vs. orb
Date: 26 Mar 1997 14:02:04 -0800 (PST)


has anyone actually seen the remix on US vinyl/cd?

i talked to someone @castle last week & they said it would
not be out until some time in april.



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From: "Sean Wolfe" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) Orb listeners demo tape?
Date: 26 Mar 1997 21:13:26 -0600


I'd be very interested in a project like this.  Being that my label deals
alot with music experimentation and, discovering of unkown talents I think
that this will be a great way to circulate each others work.

Check out my Site.
http://www.spindlex.com
(pardon the slight mess, it's still under construction)

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> From: Karsten Hammer Hansen <[e-mail]>
> To: Orb <[e-mail]>
> Subject: Re: (orb) Orb listeners demo tape?
> Date: Wednesday, March 26, 1997 1:16 AM
>
> INTELLIJEL - Danjel van Tijn wrote:
> >
> > They did this on the My Bloody Valentine list: Every body sends in
their
> > demo tape to someone and then a mixtape is made and passed on to
> > everyone interested. This would be a cool way to get some criticism and
> > possibly some good attention at low cost. Is anyone interested?
> > cheers,
> >         DAnjel
>
> I think it's a great idea, I'm participating on the MBV list, so why not
> contribute to this aswell?
>
> Can't promise any electronis music tho'...
>
> It's a great way to get your stuff out to broader audience without being
> signed or spending loads of $$ on a self-financed release. Yup, yup!
>
> Cheers,
> The K.
>
> BTW: Orb will be playing here in Oslo on the 1st of April, ticket's in
> place and psyching up..
>
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From: Micah <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) atlanta show?!
Date: 27 Mar 1997 01:43:11 -0500

anyone have any definate info on the atlanta show at tha masquerade?
i'll be driving from Durham,NC to see it (6-7hr drive i believe...) so i
want to know _everything_ before i get there.
it would be _really_ cool to get to meet any of the band or be on the
guest list (if the romours are true about andy or thomas sometimes
reading this list...*smile*) but i'll see them nonetheless; i saw them
in Charlotte,NC for orbvs and it was wonderful to say the least. can't
wait
thanks in advance
annai
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From: "Dagmar the Surreal" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) Cocksville/Axiom CD
Date: 27 Mar 1997 01:17:03 -0600

On 26 Mar 97 at 1:01, [e-mail] wrote:

> Hiya all,
> Can anyone give me there impression of the Orb track "Cocksville USA"? Is it
> worth picking up the Axiom "Mysteries" CD for it? Also, on the other Axiom CD
> it lists the Orb as having "contributed" to the album. Anyone know what the
> extent of their contribution is, and if it's worth grabbing that disk as
> well?

I thought it was a pretty good track, and it can also be found on the
Altered Beats compilation CD on that same label.  The disc itself is
worth buying, even without the Orb track.  My 'impression' with it,
as it were, was that Cocksville U.S.A. sounds more like the stuff on
Orbvs Terrarvm more than any of the other albums.  Beyond that, it's
like most Orb stuff--defying rational description.  ;)

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From: Smiley <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) london orblivion (us report)
Date: 27 Mar 1997 11:07:24 GMT

Sean writes:
> Just got back, here's a long winded blabbering:

<snip!>
> After a few pints, a certain Bush song came on the air and yes folks, Smiley
> *did* confess his secret passion for the group.  ;-)

i would just like to point out that this is a private joke, and NOT SERIOUS!
damn, there goes any last vestige of 'cred' that i had... ;-)

> Smiley drilled me on the  "G'Day mate", "Thank ye Mate",  "Cheers Mate"
> rhetoric so I didn't appear to be too much of a soggy american.

blimey, i sound like an australian now! <g>

> Thanks again go to Smiley, JC and group for a splendid time!  Now
> if you're up for the NY and DC shows on May 9,10, give me a yell ;-)

no problems...now then, who can lend me plane fair to new york...?

laters.

--
Smiley

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (orb) Toxygene single, Orbital request
Date: 27 Mar 1997 12:30:59 EST

So I won a Toxygene single from the club Manray
release party for Orblivion, but will pick it
up this weekend.  It's 12" vinyl, but I do not know
anything more about it.

Manray has a webpage at www.manrayclub.com, by the way.

Off topic, Orbital's InSides album is out with new
bonus disc with The Saint and Satan tracks on it.
If anyone out there knows the track listing for
that new bonus disk, please let me know.  Thanks.

The Saint CD single has The Saint, The Box (Edit),
and The Sinner, three tracks at a low price, out
since last week.

__Matt / [e-mail]


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From: "Lazlo Nibble" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) Toxygene single, Orbital request
Date: 27 Mar 1997 11:17:20 -0700 (MST)

> Off topic, Orbital's InSides album is out with new bonus disc with The
> Saint and Satan tracks on it.  If anyone out there knows the track
> listing for that new bonus disk, please let me know.  Thanks.

      3:42    Satan (industry standard)
      7:09    Satan (live in nyc)
      4:30    The Saint
     10:41    The Sinner
      7:43    Halcyon (live)

Note that "The Sinner" is longer here than on the single, and that the live
"Halcyon" (w/Bon Jovi/Belinda Carlisle samples) has not appeared anywhere else
to date.

(What the hell, the Orbital list spend half their time talking about The Orb
lately, why not return the favor . . . )

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From: "John Given" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) Cocksville/Axiom CD
Date: 27 Mar 1997 13:54:56 -0800



> I thought it was a pretty good track, and it can also be found on the
> Altered Beats compilation CD on that same label.

I own Altered Beats (dig that hip-hop!) and I can assure you that
Cocksville U.S.A. appears nowhere on this album!  It would be rather hard
to miss given that Cocksville is 5 minutes longer that any of the fourteen
tracks that really are included.  There are no songwriting credits for
Burton/Hughes/Needs/Paterson/Phillips, nor do any of them appear in the
"thank you" credits.  I'm puzzled to what their actual involvement might be
on this album--it's really not their style.  Maybe Cocksville is included
on the "best of" Axiom release, Illuminations.
John

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From: Sean Wolfe <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) Spherical Music Compilation
Date: 27 Mar 1997 15:15:32 -0000

Spherical Music: An Independent Compilation of Orbsters
We have all talked the talk on the orb e-mail list now it's time to prove
we know our electronic music. The idea is to create a compilation CD/Tape
of the music created by fans of the orb to be sold at cost to anyone
interested. Sound good? then follow the directions below:

Musicians:
1. Send a copy of your demo tape, album, or best song on DAT, CD, MC, or MD
to:
   Sean Wolfe
   O/E Chicago, Inc.
   150 South Wacker Drive
   Suite 2950
   Chicago, IL 60606

2. Put $10 US to cover the cost of the CD to be mailed to you later.
3. Be sure to include your adress, a little about yourself, and any other
relevant information
   such as which is your best track etc.
4. Make sure the stuff is mailed no later than April 21st via express mail
(1 week delivery)

Artists:
1. Submit your best piece of cover art in 300dpi or greater to
[e-mail]
2. Copyright is reliquished to all the artists contributing to the album
3. Artwork may be put on display on the web page to be judged.
4. Winning artwork receives a free cd (?)

Listeners:
Anyone interested in getting a copy be able to order a CD from this site in
the near future or get a cassette copy from the musician nearest you. More
information available at a later date.

Please direct any questions to Sean Wolfe:      [e-mail]
                or Danjel van Tijn: [e-mail]
For more info see Spindle Productions Web Site:
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From: "IceBerg" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) Chicago show
Date: 27 Mar 1997 16:34:21 +0000

> From:          "Ryan Platte" <[e-mail]>

> Looks like there's going to be four of us Orb fans making the trek to the
> Chicago show (still not sure I want to see the chemical brothers
> particularly). Anyone want to possibly meet us, chill at some restaurant
> afterwards? 'twould be good to meet some other orbient types...

Sounds cool, now all we have to do is decide when and were to meet.
Preferably not were all the little raver kids will be, cuz 18+ or not
wont matter.


> ...tidbits: ticketmaster is selling tickets for the show starting at noon
> saturday -- before the lady realized the tickets weren't on sale yet, she
> started reading all the no-moshing stuff...mental picture of someone trying
> to mosh to the orb? I suppose it could be done, but... yikes.
>
> I assured her it wouldn't be a problem with this responsible ticketholder.
>
> Also, kinda sucks that it's an 18+ show...especially odd when you consider
> that we saw LX in November DJing for *Meat Beat*, which was an all ages
> show. hmmm, doesn't compute. too bad, had about six or seven people that
> would have gone with us and had a good time.

Never been to an event like this were they checke ID's, do you think
they realy will?

> Let me know if you want to join up, we'll work something out.
>
> Ryan Platte
> mailto:[e-mail]
>

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From: "Iain Newton" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) Cocksville/Axiom
Date: 27 Mar 1997 18:12:09 -0500

        Reply to:   RE>>(orb) Cocksville/Axiom CD
"cocksville" is on "axiom dub"

iain



> I thought it was a pretty good track, and it can also be found on the
> Altered Beats compilation CD on that same label.

I own Altered Beats (dig that hip-hop!) and I can assure you that
Cocksville U.S.A. appears nowhere on this album!  It would be rather hard
to miss given that Cocksville is 5 minutes longer that any of the fourteen
tracks that really are included.  There are no songwriting credits for
Burton/Hughes/Needs/Paterson/Phillips, nor do any of them appear in the
"thank you" credits.  I'm puzzled to what their actual involvement might be
on this album--it's really not their style.  Maybe Cocksville is included
on the "best of" Axiom release, Illuminations.
John

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From: George Udel <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) Orb: Dipping Beyond The Cyberworld woodstock
Date: 27 Mar 1997 19:18:02 -0500

Hi, my name is Nate Udel and I am looking for :

The Orb: Dipping Beyond The Cyberworld Woodstock (On CD)

And I have Been wanting it very badly.

Does anybody have a CD up for trade or sale, or would somebody kindly please
trade me for the CD id there is somebody


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From: George Udel <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) Orb: Dipping Beyond The Cyberworld woodstock
Date: 27 Mar 1997 19:18:29 -0500

Hi, my name is Nate Udel and I am looking for :

The Orb: Dipping Beyond The Cyberworld Woodstock (On CD)

And I have Been wanting it very badly.

Does anybody have a CD up for trade or sale, or would somebody kindly please
trade me for the CD id there is somebody


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From: George Udel <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) Orb: Dipping Beyond The Cyberworld woodstock
Date: 27 Mar 1997 19:20:31 -0500

Hi, my name is Nate Udel and I am looking for :

The Orb: Dipping Beyond The Cyberworld Woodstock (On CD)

And I have Been wanting it very badly.

Does anybody have a CD up for trade or sale, or would somebody kindly please
trade me for the CD id there is somebody


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From: Gregor Menasian <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) UK and US CDs of Orblivion are different...
Date: 27 Mar 1997 21:35:50 -0800 (PST)


OK, I saw a UK import CD of Orblivion in the store again and this time I
wrote down the times of the tracks.  There are lots of discrepancies
between it and the US version:

Track            US   UK
Delta Mk II      7:00 6:30
Ubiquity         6:13 6:23
Asylum           5:19 "Made in England" sticker, time unknown
Bedouin          4:31 4:25
Molten Love      6:40 6:41
PI               1:05 1:10
S.A.L.T          7:55 8:15
Toxygene         5:20 5:00
Log of Deadwood  1:14 1:30
Secrets          5:32 5:40
Passing of Time  9:27 9:27
72               0:06 0:06 [yea, right...]

As you can see, a few tracks are the same length, or only a second or so
off, but others are off by 20-30 seconds or so.

My challenge to anyone who has the UK and US versions for some strange
reason (or at least access to opened copies of both) is to time both
versions with a stopwatch or something and either:

1 - Verify that Virgin UK somehow completely miscommunicated the lengths
    of the tracks to Virgin US, but that they are in fact the same.
or
2 - Verify that some songs have slightly different mixes/edits between the
    US and UK versions.

Actually, any kind of input into this mystery would be appreciated...

Thanks,
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From: Christopher William Niemitz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) UK and US CDs of Orblivion are different...
Date: 27 Mar 1997 22:34:57 -0800 (PST)

On Thu, 27 Mar 1997, Gregor Menasian wrote:

> 1 - Verify that Virgin UK somehow completely miscommunicated the lengths
>     of the tracks to Virgin US, but that they are in fact the same.

well, this is ruled out by the simple fact that Orblivion isn't
on Virgin UK or US...


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From: [e-mail] (Miles Schulze)
Subject: (orb) PLEASE, PLEASE!
Date: 28 Mar 1997 00:02:32 -0700

This might be getting slightly repeditive...but can someone steer me the
right direction to the DATES AND LOCATIONS for the ORB IN THE U.S.?  I'm
stuck in my blue room and I need to Know....thanks....ez



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Subject: Re: (orb) PLEASE, PLEASE!
Date: 28 Mar 1997 02:14:35 -0500


> This might be getting slightly repeditive...but can someone steer me the
> right direction to the DATES AND LOCATIONS for the ORB IN THE U.S.?  I'm
> stuck in my blue room and I need to Know....thanks....ez

Just go to www.polygram-us.com and follow the links to US tour dates...

James
(a fellow late-nighter)

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From: Gregor Menasian <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) UK and US CDs of Orblivion are different...
Date: 28 Mar 1997 00:17:53 -0800 (PST)

On Thu, 27 Mar 1997, Christopher William Niemitz wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Mar 1997, Gregor Menasian wrote:
>
> > 1 - Verify that Virgin UK somehow completely miscommunicated the lengths
> >     of the tracks to Virgin US, but that they are in fact the same.
>
> well, this is ruled out by the simple fact that Orblivion isn't
> on Virgin UK or US...

Sorry, folks, I was a bit asleep when I wrote the original message, I
meant Island UK/US...



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From: "Orbus" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) Psychic Warriors of Gaia
Date: 28 Mar 1997 08:00:30 +0000

I have heard rescently that in BC (not sure of the city) the Psychic Warriors
of Gaia are playing for a Summer Solstis festival. Then even more rescent I
heard of the possibility of The Orb Playing at this festival. Has anyone heard
of this?

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From: [e-mail] (Sean Strout)
Subject: (orb) UK and US CDs of Orblivion are different...
Date: 28 Mar 1997 06:37:53 PST

Hi, the actual times on the UK disc are what you have listed for
the US, they are just mislabled on the CD.  The only difference
between the two is that they took out the "Orblivion March UK Tour"
card from the US version and fixed up the times.

>Track            US   UK
>Delta Mk II      7:00 6:30
>Ubiquity         6:13 6:23
>Asylum           5:19 5:23
>Bedouin          4:31 4:25
>Molten Love      6:40 6:41
>PI               1:05 1:10
>S.A.L.T          7:55 8:15
>Toxygene         5:20 5:00
>Log of Deadwood  1:14 1:30
>Secrets          5:32 5:40
>Passing of Time  9:27 9:27
>72               0:06 0:06 [yea, right...]

The music on the two is the same, as far as I can tell, although
I haven't put them in a side by side test (hmm, interesting...).

The album length is 72:02, which I think may hint that the last
track, 72, is not over after 6 seconds.  Why else would it possibly
be named this?  don't ask, right? ;-)

orb on,
-s.

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From: [e-mail] (Sean Strout)
Subject: (orb) L.A. orb posted
Date: 28 Mar 1997 07:39:57 PST

Ticketmaster posted the LA show:

Philip Blaine Presents
Orb
Info: 213-960-5077
KARMA
333 S Boyleston, Downtown LA
Thu May 1, 1997 8:30pm

-s.

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From: dr livingstone <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) Re: orb Digest V2 #60
Date: 28 Mar 1997 11:04:48 -0800

>
> Looks like there's going to be four of us Orb fans making the trek to the
> Chicago show (still not sure I want to see the chemical brothers
> particularly). Anyone want to possibly meet us, chill at some restaurant

i am going with a few friends
email me if you want to meet

dr livingstone

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From: "Lazlo Nibble" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) PLEASE, PLEASE!
Date: 28 Mar 1997 10:13:38 -0700 (MST)

> This might be getting slightly repeditive...but can someone steer me the
> right direction to the DATES AND LOCATIONS for the ORB IN THE U.S.?

http://www.theorb.com/orbulletins.html

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From: Richard Nusbaum <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) PC Version of Orb Screensaver Available
Date: 28 Mar 1997 13:44:23 -0500

Hi All,

I was able to download and install the pc version of the Orblivion
screensaver last night.  It is for Windows95.  The URL is
http://www.orblivion.com/download.html.
Enjoy!
Richard

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Subject: Re: (orb) PLEASE, PLEASE!
Date: 28 Mar 1997 14:45:08 -0500 (EST)

>> This might be getting slightly repeditive...but can someone steer me the
>> right direction to the DATES AND LOCATIONS for the ORB IN THE U.S.?

> http://www.theorb.com/orbulletins.html

Per orbulletins:
     thu 27 mar - bossa nova @ the pink - 10pm
     2810 main st. (2 blocks s. of oceak park) - santa monica, ca
     lx paterson dj gig only - $15

BULLSHIT !!!
I drove an hour to get there last night only to be told, "Oh he was here
three weeks ago".   I called Quango Records this morning (they run Bossa Nova

http://www.quango.com/club.htm ) and they confirmed he HAD appeared there.  I
asked if their site has some calender of DJ's or if the club itself has an
info line...they said NO !

I'm really getting sick of all these flakes in the music biz, I mean do they
want our support or not?  They make it awfully difficult for anyone to
continue to give a damn about their events and artists.

I know Lazlo is probably getting sick of everyone bitching about the
confusion of tour dates,  but geez doesn't anyone have reliable info.

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From: Don Gagen <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) New to the list
Date: 28 Mar 1997 14:01:37 -0600

Hi all,

Being a great fan of the Orb I thought it was about time I joined the
list.  I am also a KLF fan and member of that list as well.  My reasons
for being here are to learn more about the orb, and increase my
collection of Orb music.  In particular I am looking for a CD versions
of the Eternity Project One,  and the Aubry Mixes.  I am also looking
for the Jam On the Mutha "Hotel California" 12" Remixes by the Orb.  I
can be very flexible when it comes to cash, but I like trades better.  I
have only one significant orb related item for trade.  A white label
promo version of the KISS 12".  Enclosed with it is an info sheet with
detailed track information and a short biography.   I have many KLF
items.  If you are interested in trading or selling items please contact
me personally for more info.

Don

DONALD D GAGEN
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From: DJ ANIMA <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) DENVER GIG!!!
Date: 28 Mar 1997 13:12:45 -0700

Ahoy there mateys!!!

Just gor off the phone with the Ogden theatre and they confirmed the MAY
6, 1997 Orb/Chems show.  The tickets will be available through Rocky
Mountain Teleseat, and NOT Ticketbilker.  If you live in the area you
can find Rocky Mountain Teleseat at King Soopers grocery stores at the
customer service desk.  Ticket prices have yet to be announced but they
will go on sale April 4th.  Of course if anyof this changes I WILL let
you all know.  By the way WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO FRED MADISON?!?!?!?!


DJ ANIMA

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From: Chad Nicholas Stracensky <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) Re: orb Digest V2 #60
Date: 28 Mar 1997 17:08:01 -0500 (EST)

I go to school near Chicago and am going with a few of my friends.  PLease
let me know if you want to meet.

-Chad


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From: "John Given" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) New to the list
Date: 28 Mar 1997 15:59:42 -0800


> My reasons
> for being here are to learn more about the orb, and increase my
> In particular I am looking for a CD versions
> of the Eternity Project One,  and the Aubry Mixes.

Aren't we all.  You probably won't find the Aubrey Mixes here, but don't
stress--it's an excellent group.  Welcome.
John

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From: Robert Sink <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) Tangerine Dream - Orb Mixes
Date: 29 Mar 1997 17:52:56 -0500 (EST)

Living in southern Maryland, for those of you not aware, the only
way to get decent music w/o driving 1-1.5 hours is to purchase via
phone/internet.

Anyhow, there's this pretty cool music store right outside of Fells
Pointin Baltimore which carries a lot of cool music.  I just received
this mailing concerning the Orb/TD mixes.  Below is all the other info you'd
need.  Supposedly the release date is 4/2.

(BTW, I have no affiliation with the music store, I just thought some
people here would benefit by this info.)

----- Forwarded message from Modern Music -----

>>Tangerine Dream : Towards The Evening Star - Orb mix
Comes on limited edition blue vinyl. The Orb mix is laid back guitar
heavy ambient.
cd5 $9.99                        12" $8.99

INSTRUCTIONS.

if you see something you want, clip if from the list above and e-mail it
to me. let me know what type of payment you wish to use

all items need to be reserved. please do not just send payment without
checking with me first.

we take checks, money order, and credit cards.

postage is given once i know exactly what you want so i can wiegh it and
give you an exact total rather than an estimate. when you combine cd's
with vinyl it makes it difficult to give you an estimate, unless i weigh
the items first.

here is an estimate of what you can expect:

1 to 3 cd's $3.75 : 4 to 6 $4.75 : 7 to 9 $5.75

1 piece of vinyl $3.75 : 2 to 4 $4.75 : 5 to 7 $5.75

we send ALL orders for u.s. customers United States Postal Service first
class priority. if you are from overseas or canada, i will give you a
total after i recieve your reservation.

all orders are placed in new mailers, not re-used ones. we take extra
care to ensure you parcel gets to you quickly and intact.

if you wish to do credit card, send your order via e-mail so the items
can be held for you. you can then call 410 675 2172 or fax your card
info (including expiration) to 410 675 2373. your card info will be kept
on permanent file from then on, so all you will have to do is send your
order in and say bill my card as usual.

if you wish to send a check or money order, please e-mail to reserve. i
will then give you postage info. make payable to modern music, and send
to:

modern music
attn:mailorder
2905 o'donnell st
baltimore, md
21224
usa

our web site is down at the moment because we are reworking it. it will
be up shortly. the address is: www.modernmusic.com

any questions mail me asap


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From: "chris pickert (blacklite)" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) orb videos / movies / journeys? [in search of]
Date: 29 Mar 1997 17:24:39 -0600 (CST)

i am looking to obtain a or some orb videos / movies. i am pretty sure
that they exist so, if you have one or have ANY information about a movie,
please email me ([e-mail]) or repost to the discussion group. i
will pay decent price for a good copy. thank you.



            .. chris pickert (blacklite) ..
            - WWW: http://www.the-b.org/~blaklite -
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From: Marcolphus <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) System Express
Date: 30 Mar 1997 22:24:38 +0200

Can anyone send me track listing+times for System 7's "System Express"?
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From: Sir Real <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) 72/ToD
Date: 30 Mar 1997 19:09:39 -0500

Hi

I've been a casual orb fan since the UFOrb era but just recently subscribed
to this list.  I have a quick question...

On Orblivion, the secret track about 5 min into '72' sounds very much like
a remix of 'Towers of Dub'.  There are ToD fingerprints all over it...  is
there a title for this remix?  and is it remixed by orb (sounds like it)?

Scott

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (orb) L.A. orb posted
Date: 30 Mar 1997 22:56:43 -0500 (EST)

> Ticketmaster posted the LA show:
> Philip Blaine Presents
> Orb
> Info: 213-960-5077
> KARMA
> 333 S Boyleston, Downtown LA
> Thu May 1, 1997 8:30pm

Went to Ticketsmasher today and found that tickets had been canceled.   Seems
they're still trying to find a place to play and they may be up again in
about a week....hopefully a bigger venue than the Karma club.


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From: Travis Johnson Ward <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) TX date
Date: 30 Mar 1997 22:56:23 -0600 (CST)

For all those people in Texas, I know there is at least one:

THE ORB, ROB VAUGHN, DARREN/U.K/MICHAELANGELO
WED, APRIL 23, 1997
AUSTIN MUSIC HALL
512-469-SHOW
FOR TIX

this is according to a flyer i got,
Travis


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (orb) Orblivion review, professional style
Date: 31 Mar 1997 08:53:30 -0500


Here's a review from the latest issue of NOW magazine, hailing
from Toronto:

"Alex Patterson and his Orb massive have never
attempted to remain in step with the rest of
the electronica set. It's only natural, then,
that while everyone else trades in their weed
for a more visceral stimulant and speeds up their
breakbeats to absurd velocities, the London-based
dubwise crew continue to gurgle along at their
own stoned pace.

"Not that the group doesn't give it a shot on
Orblivion. The occasional drum'n'bass break
surfaces through the dense sea of samples and
rubbery bass lines, but it's still like trying to
jog underwater. The apocalyptic S.A.L.T., with a
lifted rant from Mike Leigh's file Naked, is vintage
Orb paranoia shrouded in elaborately orchestrated,
perpetually unstable beats, and while it's nothing
particulary groundbreaking in light of past Orb
successes, few do the headphone symphony thing
better."


I think this one pretty much hits the mark. And that part about "the
headphone symphony" couldn't be truer.


James

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (orb) Toxygene vinyl promo
Date: 31 Mar 1997 11:30:35 EST

Hello, I received the following after a drawing at
club Manray in Cambridge, MA, USA:

An Orblivion poster, about 3' x 4' with cover art from
album and same famous buildings from around that circle
are lined up along bottom.

And...

Toxygene 12" vinyl promo, not clear if it's US or UK.

Plain white sleeve (with holes to show label on vinyl)
with silver label with black font that reads:

"Toxygene"
The Brand New Single From
THE ORB
featuring mixes by
Way Out West
Kris Needs
and
Fila Brazillia


PR12 7432-1(WT)

A1 Toxic Genes Mix  8:00
A2 Kris Needs Up For A Fortnight Mix  7:14
B1 Fila Brazillia Mix  6:05
B2 Way Out West Begbie Mix  7:34

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Subject: Re: (orb) Orblivion review, professional style
Date: 31 Mar 1997 11:47:35 -0800




> Here's a review from the latest issue of NOW magazine, hailing
> from Toronto:

Much better than the cheese-o-review offered by Rolling Stone this month.
RS makes reference to "fan alienation" following the release of  Orbus
Terrerum (only the most superficial fans missed the boat on this) and the
inevitable comparison to Prodigy, etc.  Kind of like saying "these Beatles
guys really sound a lot like Oasis, so I'll give 'em 3 stars."
RS, and even the British press often seem to forget that UFOrb debuted at
number one in England, while marvelling at the commericial success of
today's so-called Electronica artists.
John

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From: Anthony Bryan <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) mtv on orb
Date: 31 Mar 1997 20:44:23 -0500 (EST)

see
http://mtv.com/music/stew/ss03.html

daft punk is on there too.

ab

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From: nhetrick <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) Orb be where?
Date: 31 Mar 1997 23:18:34 -0500


Haven't seen a speck of listmail in a while, so I'm sending this as a
test message as much as anything.

Finally found a copy of the UK pressing of _System Express_ here.  Even
though it's not all new, it's all very, very good.  This and _Orblivion_
are making this a great time for excellent music.

Looking forward to the D.C. Orb show at the 9:30.  I don't suppose anyone
on here can say if Thomas Fehlmann will actually make the rounds this
tour, now that he's more "officially" a band-member.  Anyone across the
Big Pond seen him onstage yet?


Neil Hetrick
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From: "TLove" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) RE: DAT VS. TURNTABLE
Date: 09 Mar 1997 14:21:13 -0800

Hey people,
I think I might have the final word on concluding this debate...
Ever try to scratch sounds with a DAT?
I didn't think so..
Does your DAT pitch?
I didn't think so...(if it does, then lucky you...)
BUT..
The debate of tape vs. turntable goes waayyy back to the days of
reel-to-reel (and 8 track tapes) vs. turntables
(I don't know how many of you are old enough to remember such devices in
everyday use.)
Suffice to say that both DAT and Turntables are effective tools that use
different methods of helping the
artist to create a desired sound. To argue the virtues of apples vs.
oranges is moot.
DJ CyberSogo
"United we stand...Divided we fall.." -DJ's of the world.
No flames, please...

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