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n64-digest        Wednesday, November 17 1999        Volume 01 : Number 990



Re: [N64] Yamauchi doesn't like Decisions on Dolphin or Psx2
Re: [N64] Square
Re: [N64] Square
Re: [N64] Decisions Dolphin or Psx2
Re: [N64] Decisions Dolphin or Psx2
Re: [N64] Yamauchi doesn't like Decisions on Dolphin or Psx2
Re: [N64] Mononoke
Re: [N64] Decisions Dolphin or Psx2
Re: [N64] Pokemon the movie #1
Re: [N64] Gotta enslave 'em all
Re: [N64] Yamauchi doesn't like Decisions on Dolphin or Psx2
Re: [N64] Gotta enslave Yamauchi
Re: [N64] Yamanuchi says he doesn't like Goldeneye
Re: [N64] Decisions Dolphin or Psx2
Re: [N64] Decisions Dolphin or Psx2
Re: [N64] Decisions Dolphin or Psx2
Re: [N64] Decisions Dolphin or Psx2
Re: [N64] Decisions Dolphin or Psx2
[N64] Pikachu's vacation:
Re: [N64] Square
Re: [N64] Decisions Dolphin or Psx2
Re: [N64] Decisions Dolphin or Psx2
Re: [N64] Square
Re: [N64] Pokemon the movie #1

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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 15:27:02 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: [N64] Yamauchi doesn't like Decisions on Dolphin or Psx2

In a message dated 99-11-17 13:27:50 EST, you write:

> If Dolphin and Playstation 2 have release dates
>  that are very close with each other, which one would you get?

Both.


> I mean I had a
>  choice of getting a Playstation or a N64.My reasoning was that playstation
> had
>  more games, since then I have matured. I believe that the quality of games
a
>  system has is more important than the quanity.

You and Yamauchi both.


> I also think that it is cool
>  that you can have the whole collection of games that are provided for a
> system.

That's usually how it works. I'm not sure what you mean exactly.


>  Also, with the Playstation having more games which were terrible, probaly
>  half. The thing that I don't like about playstation is that it seems they
> rush
>  making the games while nintendo is more conservative and takes there time
> more
>  and have a better quality for there games. I dunno you decide.

Well, the PlayStation doesn't actually make games. It's a brand name, not a
developer.

>
>  Let's take a pole.


I want the one outside the Court House.

If you have a choice to get a psx2 or a Dolphin, which
> one
>  would you get.
>
>  B

It'd be tough to decide since I know nothing useful about Dolphin. So right
now it'd be the PSX2 since I know it actually exists.

Dave

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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 16:01:00 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: [N64] Square

In a message dated 11/16/99 2:40:45 PM Central Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< ick, ick, ick.  FF8 was not nearly as good as III.  Just play III and
 you will understand.  It is impossible to describe but its kind of like
 comparing Goldeneye in popularity to Quest 64. >>


    I've played 3, and while I thought it was a good game, I wouldn't call it
better than FF8.

- --David

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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 16:02:19 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: [N64] Square

In a message dated 11/16/99 7:38:50 PM Central Standard Time, [e-mail]
writes:

<< It all depends on who you ask....some people hate the direction the FF
 series has gone..like you Fentie.  Some people prefer the older FFs, but
 think the new ones are still good...like myself.  And some people love the
 news one...like David.

 I still think FF2 (US) is the best personally.

 Stryder >>


    I've heard that FF9 is going to be more like the older FF games and have
more Fantasy and less Science Fiction.

- --David

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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 17:02:02 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: [N64] Decisions Dolphin or Psx2



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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 17:03:59 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: [N64] Decisions Dolphin or Psx2

Dolphin, definitely. Think of all the nintendo's greatest hits in 128bit
glory. Especially Zelda.

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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 16:15:01 -0600
From: Armitage <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [N64] Yamauchi doesn't like Decisions on Dolphin or Psx2

>> I also think that it is cool
>>  that you can have the whole collection of games that are provided for a
>> system.
>
>That's usually how it works. I'm not sure what you mean exactly.
>

It's a heck of a lot easier to buy/own the complete library of a system
with fewer titles. Not that it's impossible to own all the PS (or whichever
system) games, just takes more money and time. He's saying it's cool
because it's very possible to own every game for N64, because of its
smaller library. I just wonder why anyone would want to... Superman being
one reason in particular...


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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 17:28:14 -0500
From: "Eddy Wu" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [N64] Mononoke

OK, let me elaborate. Most adults will not go to see a cartoon movie. Some
will, but not a lot. Princess Mononoke is an animated movie. It might have
done well in a limited release, but that's because the hardcore anime fans
will travel to go see it. Especially with all the big holiday movies coming
up, I don't think many mainstream theatres have space for it. I guess it's
too bad for those of you who don't live near big cities.

- -----Original Message-----
From: Alex <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: Tuesday, November 16, 1999 11:11 PM
Subject: Re: [N64] Pokemon the movie #1


>At 18:03 16-11-99 -0500, you wrote:
>>Because Princess Mononoke is a cartoon for adults, and therefore has a
very
>>limited audience.
>>
>
>Huh? There are more adults than there are children. Not to mention adults
>are the ones with the money.
>
>[e-mail]
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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 16:55:01 -0600
From: D Fentie <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [N64] Decisions Dolphin or Psx2

Dolphin... is this a surprise to those that know me?

[e-mail] wrote:
>
>         If Dolphin and Playstation 2 have release dates
> that are very close with each other, which one would you get? I mean I had a
> choice of getting a Playstation or a N64.My reasoning was that playstation had
> more games, since then I have matured. I believe that the quality of games a
> system has is more important than the quanity. I also think that it is cool
> that you can have the whole collection of games that are provided for a system.
> Also, with the Playstation having more games which were terrible, probaly
> half. The thing that I don't like about playstation is that it seems they rush
> making the games while nintendo is more conservative and takes there time more
> and have a better quality for there games. I dunno you decide.
>
> Let's take a pole. If you have a choice to get a psx2 or a Dolphin, which one
> would you get.
>
> B
>
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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 15:04:58 -0800 (PST)
From: Geoff Finger <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [N64] Pokemon the movie #1

On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, Dexter Sy wrote:

> That statement is flawed :-) So i agree w/ alex. but still, Monokoke is very
> much a niche film, bacause its a foreign film that has supposedly gone through a
> rather shoddy redubbing process, something which takes away from the movie's
> appeal.  Besides, animation is not often associated with adult filmgoing, and
> the Japanimation narritive elements will likely turn some people off.

You said a lot of things about Mononoke, so i'm going to squeeze all the
semi-off-topic stuff into one message.

First, Pokemon made 10,000+ per theater it's opening weekend. Malkovich
made 20,000 or 25,000 on 20 or 30 theaters it's opening weekend, a little
more than 10,000 it's second weekend, and is now apparently at about
5,000. I doubt that pokemon is going to be doing better than 10,000 a
theater next weekend. Mononoke opened in four cities for 15,000+ a
theater, the next weekend it opened in 20 more cities averaging 10,000+

Sure, this last weekend it probably made less than that, but that was it's
third weekend. It both it's first and second weekend it was as high or
higher than pokemon on a per theater basis, you would think that would
justify a wide release.

I read the CNN article, and about the only thing i agreed with was that
the guy with the southern accent should not have been playing the monk
(or anyone else in the movie for that matter) I saw a site that collects
movie reviews (rottentomatos.com or some such?) and it listed about 20
good reviews for Mononoke, and about three bad ones. Good ones included
the New York Times, and IGN (okay, that's not a widely publisized one, but
should be relevant to people on this list)

As for the dubbing, i've had to listen to my fair share of bad dubs. This
was an _awesome_ job. I still would have prefered subtitles, but except
for the monk, they picked decent people, who did a good job, and the
translated script was very good. I was kind of wondering when i head the
x-files lady was going to be doing the mother wolf, but even she did a
good job.

And as for it being a niche film, i dragged my parents to see it the week
before i left, practically kicking and screaming. My mom _hates_ anime, of
every kind i've shown her so far. About the only animated stuff she likes
is Disney movies and Watership Down. When i asked her what she thought of
the film afterwards, she'd loved it! She still doesn't want to see any
other anime, but there were a lot of things she liked about Mononoke.

I'll agree that anime in general is a niche thing, but i think Mononoke
could rise above that if they'd just release it in more than thirty or
forty theaters.


- --------------------------------------------------------------
each emotional injury
leaves behind its mark
sometimes they come tumbling out
like shadows in the dark
- --Rush


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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 18:13:47 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: [N64] Gotta enslave 'em all

In a message dated 11/17/99 2:00:36 PM Central Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< So what you're saying is that my Dreamcast isn't really thinking?  ;) >>

Nope.  Sorry.  I personally think it would've done better with that lame yell
"SEGA!!!" than some wierd "It's thinking."  Wow.  I've got to get a system
that thinks.
- -Eric-

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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 15:16:08 -0800 (PST)
From: Geoff Finger <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [N64] Yamauchi doesn't like Decisions on Dolphin or Psx2

On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Armitage wrote:

> It's a heck of a lot easier to buy/own the complete library of a system
> with fewer titles. Not that it's impossible to own all the PS (or whichever
> system) games, just takes more money and time. He's saying it's cool
> because it's very possible to own every game for N64, because of its
> smaller library. I just wonder why anyone would want to... Superman being
> one reason in particular...

I can't see why anyone would want to own all the games on any system. Like
you said, even a system that stresses quality over quantity comes out with
a fair number of lemons.

I actually like the N64 a lot, but i have a lot less games for it than i
do for the PSX. The problem is that every time i have the money to geta
game, or a birthday or christmas coming up, i'd have a list of both n64
and psx games i wanted to get. However, since i'm a big RPG fan, there
would always be soem RPG on the psx list that would outweigh the n64 games
i'd want to get. By the time i saved up any more money or another present
oportunity rolled around, there would be another RPG out (or two, or
three, or ...) So i keep accumulating RPGs for the psx (many of which i
still need to finish) while the list of n64 games to get gets longer and
longer. And after you've been thinking about getting a game for a couple
of months, it starts to get kind on old or something.


- --------------------------------------------------------------
All of us get lost in the darkness
Dreamers learn to steer by the stars
All of us do time in the gutter
Dreamers turn to look at the cars
- --Rush


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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 18:19:43 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: [N64] Gotta enslave Yamauchi

In a message dated 11/17/99 2:08:27 PM Central Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< There is no such thing as too much software. I'd rather have too much to
 choose from than a repeat of the N64 launch or the third year of the Turbo
 Grafx-16.

 Dave >>

I still think that there is such a thing as too much software.  The way N64
is right now is perfect for me (with the recent releases).  PSX releases
games left and right.  If I had the system, I would probably have to rent
about five games a week to make sure I don't miss anything.  That's not what
I'd prefer.
- -Eric-

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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 18:22:51 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: [N64] Yamanuchi says he doesn't like Goldeneye

In a message dated 11/17/99 2:16:34 PM Central Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< Secondly, Goldeneye, while a fun game, is old news. 1997. 1999 is almost
over
 and still every N64 zealot always comes back to Goldeneye. It's getting
 tired.

 All you're saying is nothing after Goldeneye on the N64 is worth mentioning.

 I'm surprised though, you didn't include the two other N64 staples, Zelda &
 Mario 64.

 Me >>

And Banjo-Kazooie, Mario Kart, DKR, Mario Party, Smash Bros., Jet Force
Gemini, and soon-to-be DK64.

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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 18:26:42 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: [N64] Decisions Dolphin or Psx2

In a message dated 11/17/99 4:04:36 PM Central Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< Dolphin, definitely. Think of all the nintendo's greatest hits in 128bit
 glory. Especially Zelda. >>

And Pokemon.

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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 00:10:04 +0000
From: Garrett Winters <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [N64] Decisions Dolphin or Psx2

on 17/11/99 18:27, [e-mail] at [e-mail] wrote:

> If Dolphin and Playstation 2 have release dates
> that are very close with each other, which one would you get? I mean I had a
> choice of getting a Playstation or a N64.My reasoning was that playstation had
> more games, since then I have matured. I believe that the quality of games a
> system has is more important than the quanity. I also think that it is cool
> that you can have the whole collection of games that are provided for a
> system.
> Also, with the Playstation having more games which were terrible, probaly
> half. The thing that I don't like about playstation is that it seems they rush
> making the games while nintendo is more conservative and takes there time more
> and have a better quality for there games. I dunno you decide.
>
> Let's take a pole. If you have a choice to get a psx2 or a Dolphin, which one
> would you get.

Me I'm getting both regardless of whether they get released on the same day.
I'll probably be getting the dreamcast after xmas.
I doubt very much if we will be seeing the exact same games on both consoles
as neither Sony nor Nintendo will like the thought of having no system only
killer app's. Sony's best bet is to stick to what they are best at (sports,
driving, rpg's) and nintendo makes the best adventure stories and hopefully
with RARE at the wheel we will get to see more of their eccentric outlook on
video games. Of course with similar system spec's we will finally get some
realism in nintendo games (i.e of the level of Gran turismo).
my take on the matter is Sega is building up their last gasp effort and will
be hoping to sell out to some larger firm ( Sony anyone?) or getting out
altogether and just programming for the two market leaders.
Garrett


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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 19:53:57 -0600
From: "Thraxen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [N64] Decisions Dolphin or Psx2

- -----Original Message-----
From: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: Wednesday, November 17, 1999 12:28 PM
Subject: [N64] Decisions Dolphin or Psx2


Let's take a pole. If you have a choice to get a psx2 or a Dolphin, which
one
would you get.

Ouch...it causes me great pain to have to make such a decision.  I plan on
getting both...BUT, if I had to decide?  Hmmm.....well, based completely on
how I feel about the N64 and PSX, I would have to go with the PSX2.  But
keep in mind that I would miss terribly the Rare and Miyamoto games.

Stryder


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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 21:06:37 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: [N64] Decisions Dolphin or Psx2

 <Let's take a pole. If you have a choice to get a psx2 or a Dolphin, which
 <one would you get.

This really is a hard one to choose.  If I had the choice, I would get both,
but then the question states to pick only one.  Personally, I am undecided at
the moment.  It would be easier to pick one when it comes time for the PSX2
release because the game titles and power and etc. will be a lot easier to
compare to.

Cy


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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 21:11:13 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: [N64] Decisions Dolphin or Psx2

I would definitely buy the Dolphin. The games made by Nintendo are better
than the ones made by Playstation. I do think that PS2 will have excellent
sports games, just like that do with PSX. But just imagine the games like
Zelda, Mario, Donkey Kong, and others, with superior graphics and sound. I
definitely think that the Dolphin system is a better choice.

DDP

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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 21:13:09 -0500 (EST)
From: "Lloyd Millard Mccoy Jr." <[e-mail]>
Subject: [N64] Pikachu's vacation:

once Pokemon: The first movie hits DVD i predict that the cartoon short
will be the best seller among acid heads and hallucinogenics. This movie
is more trippy than Half-baked. anybody agree?


On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Geoff Finger wrote:

> On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, Dexter Sy wrote:
>
> > That statement is flawed :-) So i agree w/ alex. but still, Monokoke is very
> > much a niche film, bacause its a foreign film that has supposedly gone through a
> > rather shoddy redubbing process, something which takes away from the movie's
> > appeal.  Besides, animation is not often associated with adult filmgoing, and
> > the Japanimation narritive elements will likely turn some people off.
>
> You said a lot of things about Mononoke, so i'm going to squeeze all the
> semi-off-topic stuff into one message.
>
> First, Pokemon made 10,000+ per theater it's opening weekend. Malkovich
> made 20,000 or 25,000 on 20 or 30 theaters it's opening weekend, a little
> more than 10,000 it's second weekend, and is now apparently at about
> 5,000. I doubt that pokemon is going to be doing better than 10,000 a
> theater next weekend. Mononoke opened in four cities for 15,000+ a
> theater, the next weekend it opened in 20 more cities averaging 10,000+
>
> Sure, this last weekend it probably made less than that, but that was it's
> third weekend. It both it's first and second weekend it was as high or
> higher than pokemon on a per theater basis, you would think that would
> justify a wide release.
>
> I read the CNN article, and about the only thing i agreed with was that
> the guy with the southern accent should not have been playing the monk
> (or anyone else in the movie for that matter) I saw a site that collects
> movie reviews (rottentomatos.com or some such?) and it listed about 20
> good reviews for Mononoke, and about three bad ones. Good ones included
> the New York Times, and IGN (okay, that's not a widely publisized one, but
> should be relevant to people on this list)
>
> As for the dubbing, i've had to listen to my fair share of bad dubs. This
> was an _awesome_ job. I still would have prefered subtitles, but except
> for the monk, they picked decent people, who did a good job, and the
> translated script was very good. I was kind of wondering when i head the
> x-files lady was going to be doing the mother wolf, but even she did a
> good job.
>
> And as for it being a niche film, i dragged my parents to see it the week
> before i left, practically kicking and screaming. My mom _hates_ anime, of
> every kind i've shown her so far. About the only animated stuff she likes
> is Disney movies and Watership Down. When i asked her what she thought of
> the film afterwards, she'd loved it! She still doesn't want to see any
> other anime, but there were a lot of things she liked about Mononoke.
>
> I'll agree that anime in general is a niche thing, but i think Mononoke
> could rise above that if they'd just release it in more than thirty or
> forty theaters.
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> each emotional injury
> leaves behind its mark
> sometimes they come tumbling out
> like shadows in the dark
> --Rush
>
>
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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 21:20:26 -0500 (EST)
From: "Lloyd Millard Mccoy Jr." <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [N64] Square

what is EA Square


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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 21:35:57 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: [N64] Decisions Dolphin or Psx2

In a message dated 11/17/99 9:07:18 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< Let's take a pole. If you have a choice to get a psx2 or a Dolphin, which
one would you get. >>

Definitely Dolphin.  Sorry PS2 but Nintendo has a long standing track record
in excellence, an excellence unparalleled by anything else put forward by
another company.  Yeah sure the PSX was good but it had its problems and
seeing as I have both systems (also the DC) I can say that my favorite is
still the good ole N64.  That thing is just plain fun.  So far, Nintendo's
internal rules for games are those that I would have instituted were I in
charge and don't know why everyone doesn't do it the most prominent of which
is don't put out a game until it's done.  The only other companies that come
to mind with this golden rule of video game creation are Rare and Square (hey
I'm a poet and I don't even know it).  But heck, Nintendo has Rare up its
sleave, that's two birds with one stone!

On the hardware side, I am looking forward very much to the Dolphin's
technology.  All this talk about DVD-RAM is really exciting expecially when
you take into consideration Nintendo's almost incesent nead for writability.
Then there's the GBA hookup possibilities, the online gaming which they are
probably testing with Randnet, and then the Miyamato games... or at least a
new Mario!  So as tempting as the PS2's software line up looks, with the
samurai and mech games, Nintendo's, I am sure, will be more appealing in the
end.  I'd gladly take one Mario over the 25 no name titles coming to the PS2.
 So here's one vote for Dolphin!

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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 21:38:01 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: [N64] Decisions Dolphin or Psx2

In a message dated 11/17/99 9:11:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, [e-mail]
writes:

> I would definitely buy the Dolphin. The games made by Nintendo are better
>  than the ones made by Playstation.

I didn't know that Playstation made games, funny.  Heh.

* Eric *

Oh that one vote for Dolphin was from me!

"One mario over all 25 PS2 games"

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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 21:43:53 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: [N64] Square

In a message dated 11/17/99 9:21:06 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

> what is EA Square

Square Electronic Arts: Square out of America?  or possibly a merger between
EA and Square...

* Eric *

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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 19:32:49 -0800
From: Dexter Sy <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [N64] Pokemon the movie #1

>
> You said a lot of things about Mononoke, so i'm going to squeeze all the
> semi-off-topic stuff into one message.
>
> First, Pokemon made 10,000+ per theater it's opening weekend. Malkovich
> made 20,000 or 25,000 on 20 or 30 theaters it's opening weekend, a little
> more than 10,000 it's second weekend, and is now apparently at about
> 5,000. I doubt that pokemon is going to be doing better than 10,000 a
> theater next weekend. Mononoke opened in four cities for 15,000+ a
> theater, the next weekend it opened in 20 more cities averaging 10,000+

This is from boxofficeguru, which has been the best source for box office stats and
analysis on the net so far.

"The offbeat comedy Being John Malkovich expanded from 175 to 467 theaters and grossed
$2.4M, up 26% from last weekend. The Spike Jonze film's
cume has hit $6.1M while its average gross of $5,005 per theater remains quite good."

I don't know where you got your numbers from but its irrelevant.  Pokemon has wider
appeal.

>
>
> Sure, this last weekend it probably made less than that, but that was it's
> third weekend. It both it's first and second weekend it was as high or
> higher than pokemon on a per theater basis, you would think that would
> justify a wide release.

It depends.  Limited releases mean target markets like New York and LA, and what does
well in the big cities don't always do well in mainstream America.  Or it could be a
marketing ploy on the part of the studio to not incur too much responsibilities.  It
does look like the film is widening its theatres up to 467 theatres.

>
>
> I read the CNN article, and about the only thing i agreed with was that
> the guy with the southern accent should not have been playing the monk
> (or anyone else in the movie for that matter)

Billy Bob Thornton, great actor BTW.

> I saw a site that collects
> movie reviews (rottentomatos.com or some such?) and it listed about 20
> good reviews for Mononoke, and about three bad ones. Good ones included
> the New York Times, and IGN (okay, that's not a widely publisized one, but
> should be relevant to people on this list)

I'm a Japanimation fan, I will go see monokoke, but I'm upset that they not only
redubbled it, but the dubbing job that was done  isn't exactly shining with talent as
well.  I would prefer subtitles.

>
>
> As for the dubbing, i've had to listen to my fair share of bad dubs. This
> was an _awesome_ job. I still would have prefered subtitles, but except
> for the monk, they picked decent people, who did a good job, and the
> translated script was very good. I was kind of wondering when i head the
> x-files lady was going to be doing the mother wolf, but even she did a
> good job.

Gillian Anderson.

>
>
> And as for it being a niche film, i dragged my parents to see it the week
> before i left, practically kicking and screaming. My mom _hates_ anime, of
> every kind i've shown her so far. About the only animated stuff she likes
> is Disney movies and Watership Down. When i asked her what she thought of
> the film afterwards, she'd loved it! She still doesn't want to see any
> other anime, but there were a lot of things she liked about Mononoke.
>
> I'll agree that anime in general is a niche thing, but i think Mononoke
> could rise above that if they'd just release it in more than thirty or
> forty theaters.

Ya.

Dex

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