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n64-digest          Wednesday, July 21 1999          Volume 01 : Number 813



Re: [N64] Xenogears+killing god
Re: [N64] Xenogears+killing god.. DROP IT
[N64] IGN's new look, etc.
Re: [N64] IGN's new look, etc.
Re: [N64] IGN's new look, etc.
Re: [N64] Xenogears+killing god
[N64] Star Wars Rogue Squadron
Re: [N64] Star Wars Rogue Squadron
Re: [N64] IGN's new look, etc.
Re: [N64] IGN's new look, etc.
Re: [N64] IGN's new look, etc.
Re: [N64] IGN's new look, etc.
Re: [N64] IGN's new look, etc.
Re: [N64] Xenogears+killing god
Re: [N64] Xenogears+killing god
Re: [N64] IGN's new look, etc.
Re: [N64] Xenogears+killing god
[N64] Dolphin
Re: [N64] IGN's new look, etc.
[N64] FA: ASB2000, Mario Party, & GoldenEye. All Start at $5!!!
[N64] FA: ASB2000, Mario Party, & GoldenEye. All Start at $5!!!
Re: [N64] IGN's new look, etc.
Re: [N64] IGN's new look, etc.
Re: [N64] Dolphin
Re: [N64] Star Wars Rogue Squadron
Re: [N64] IGN's new look, etc.

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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 12:05:53 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: [N64] Xenogears+killing god

Oh shut UP, D. Fentie. Not everyone has a God, remember. Oh yes, what a=20
shame, the game will create "impure thoughts" because "we all know God canno=
t=20
be killed." Well, does it say that it is the Judeo-Christian God? No. It=20
could be Zeus or Jupiter or some unnamed higher power. "Ruin people's chance=
s=20
of getting into heaven?" Lemme guess, you also think Matt Stone and Trey=20
Parker are going to hell for making South Park, too, huh? Welcome to the rea=
l=20
world, D. Fentie. I for one applaud Square for making such an excellent game=20
on such a s risqu=E9 subject.

~Matt

<<Personally, I don't know how the heck a game where you kill god could
ever make it to the shelves or the people that actually buy them.  Tisk
tisk what stupidity.  This is one of the rare cases I actually have to
agree with censorship.  This is different from your first person shooter
whom you kill animated people but if you have to kill god in the game it
will creat impure thoughts (because we all know god cannot be killed)
and the only thing that it will do is ruin that person's odds of getting
into heaven.  For you Atheists out there, do whatever you wish.  Am I
the only person who thinks it's wrong to base a game around killing god?>>

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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 17:10:17 -0400
From: "Eddy Wu" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [N64] Xenogears+killing god.. DROP IT

OK guys, I STRONGLY urge everyone to drop this topic right now without on=
e
of the List Deputies having to step in. It's obviously a sensitive topic
that has nothing to do with the N64 whatsoever.

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To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: Tuesday, July 20, 1999 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: [N64] Xenogears+killing god


>Oh shut UP, D. Fentie. Not everyone has a God, remember. Oh yes, what a
>shame, the game will create "impure thoughts" because "we all know God
cannot
>be killed." Well, does it say that it is the Judeo-Christian God? No. It
>could be Zeus or Jupiter or some unnamed higher power. "Ruin people's
chances
>of getting into heaven?" Lemme guess, you also think Matt Stone and Trey
>Parker are going to hell for making South Park, too, huh? Welcome to the
real
>world, D. Fentie. I for one applaud Square for making such an excellent
game
>on such a s risqu=E9 subject.
>
>~Matt
>
><<Personally, I don't know how the heck a game where you kill god could
>ever make it to the shelves or the people that actually buy them.  Tisk
>tisk what stupidity.  This is one of the rare cases I actually have to
>agree with censorship.  This is different from your first person shooter
>whom you kill animated people but if you have to kill god in the game it
>will creat impure thoughts (because we all know god cannot be killed)
>and the only thing that it will do is ruin that person's odds of getting
>into heaven.  For you Atheists out there, do whatever you wish.  Am I
>the only person who thinks it's wrong to base a game around killing god?=
>>
>
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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 17:40:27 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: [N64] IGN's new look, etc.

Hey, how does everyone like IGN's new look? Kinda plain, but sleeker and less
"goofy" to me. Those huge banners and links on the old site were real
annoying. But anyway, I really like it.

Anyhoo, what do you guys think of Cassamassina's comment that Dolphin will
absolutely slaughter the competition? I usually take something like that with
a grain of salt, but I mean, that's pretty bold. I can only think he either
A) Saw a game running, B) saw some definite hardware, or C) learned that
Square will develop for it. Hmm ...

~Matt

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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 17:54:53 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: [N64] IGN's new look, etc.

The new IGN look is awesome -- and the entire network is quite entertaining.=20
Oh, and guys, if you haven't read it by now, try reading 10 Ways to Get the=20
Hell Out of the Doghouse. You just might learn something or get an idea or=20
two, I did=3D)=20

btw, if the Dolphin is going to rule it has nothing to do with Square.

Aldo M.
- -Nintendojo

"It's pretty weird, cause while some may think it's ludicrous to compare=20
Pok=E9mon to some of Square's RPG's, which garner more acclaim than they are=20
worth, I happen to think Pok=E9mon does more for the genre than anything=20
Square's made in the last three years."- Matthew Scurry, dojo fan (age 48)=20

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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 18:03:48 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: [N64] IGN's new look, etc.

In a message dated 7/20/99 5:46:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

> Anyhoo, what do you guys think of Cassamassina's comment that Dolphin will
>  absolutely slaughter the competition? I usually take something like that
> with
>  a grain of salt, but I mean, that's pretty bold. I can only think he
either
>  A) Saw a game running, B) saw some definite hardware, or C) learned that
>  Square will develop for it. Hmm ...
>
>  ~Matt

I doubt that it will slaughter the competition. But I believe that it will be
a force to be reckoned with. Nintendo will be, like Sega is now, coming off
of the rebound from their previous systems while Sony seems to be getting
lost in its hubris, by a little bit anyway. What did Matt see, and why is he
bound by some sort of confidentiality agreement? My only guess is that Next
Generation Magazine wants to print it first. Like what was done with the
Howard Lincoln interview.

He probably saw a tech demo. Or maybe Metroid 128? ;)

Trey

the best thing about IGN's new look is the return of Jay Boor to IGNPSX.

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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 18:22:29 -0500 (CDT)
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Subject: Re: [N64] Xenogears+killing god

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Hey,he doesnt have to shut up for giving his opinion. Nor do you, me,or
anybody else. I am just wondering about the game though.  Was it a big
seller?  Later.


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Oh shut UP, D. Fentie. Not everyone has a God, remember. Oh yes, what a=20
shame, the game will create "impure thoughts" because "we all know God canno=
t=20
be killed." Well, does it say that it is the Judeo-Christian God? No. It=20
could be Zeus or Jupiter or some unnamed higher power. "Ruin people's chance=
s=20
of getting into heaven?" Lemme guess, you also think Matt Stone and Trey=20
Parker are going to hell for making South Park, too, huh? Welcome to the rea=
l=20
world, D. Fentie. I for one applaud Square for making such an excellent game=20
on such a s risqu=E9 subject.

~Matt

<<Personally, I don't know how the heck a game where you kill god could
ever make it to the shelves or the people that actually buy them.  Tisk
tisk what stupidity.  This is one of the rare cases I actually have to
agree with censorship.  This is different from your first person shooter
whom you kill animated people but if you have to kill god in the game it
will creat impure thoughts (because we all know god cannot be killed)
and the only thing that it will do is ruin that person's odds of getting
into heaven.  For you Atheists out there, do whatever you wish.  Am I
the only person who thinks it's wrong to base a game around killing god?>>

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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 21:55:17 -0500
From: "Dan & Temple Carson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [N64] Star Wars Rogue Squadron

I have a couple of questions regarding Star Wars: Rogue Squadron.

1.  If you use the code for the old Buick car, does the car take over a slot
in the hanger?
2.  Does the car dissapear after you turn the game off?

I know that some of the codes dissapear after you shut down.  The reason
that I ask is that I just beat the game all by my lonesome and I don't want
mess up any of the work that I have labored over.

Dan Carson



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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 23:06:25 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: [N64] Star Wars Rogue Squadron

In a message dated 7/20/99 10:55:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< I have a couple of questions regarding Star Wars: Rogue Squadron.

 1.  If you use the code for the old Buick car, does the car take over a slot
 in the hanger?
 2.  Does the car dissapear after you turn the game off?

 I know that some of the codes dissapear after you shut down.  The reason
 that I ask is that I just beat the game all by my lonesome and I don't want
 mess up any of the work that I have labored over.

 Dan Carson
  >>
I still can't get past that supid AT-AT stage where you blow up those hangar
things :\

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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 13:40:11 +1000
From: Alex <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [N64] IGN's new look, etc.

At 17:40 20-07-99 EDT, you wrote:
>Hey, how does everyone like IGN's new look? Kinda plain, but sleeker and less
>"goofy" to me. Those huge banners and links on the old site were real
>annoying. But anyway, I really like it.
>
>Anyhoo, what do you guys think of Cassamassina's comment that Dolphin will
>absolutely slaughter the competition? I usually take something like that with
>a grain of salt, but I mean, that's pretty bold. I can only think he either
>A) Saw a game running, B) saw some definite hardware, or C) learned that
>Square will develop for it. Hmm ...
>
>~Matt

A) Cassamassina is a moron. B) IGN64 has gone to hell. C) Where's Peer?


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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 23:36:53 -0400
From: "Eddy Wu" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [N64] IGN's new look, etc.

I think it has something to do with some hardware that he saw, just from the
tone of what he is saying. Also today in N-Query he talked about not
worrying about the Dolphin stacking up to the PSX2, which suggests something
hardware related to me. Maybe confirmation of a 56k modem? a dedicated
network? Some sort of writability?

>Anyhoo, what do you guys think of Cassamassina's comment that Dolphin will
>absolutely slaughter the competition? I usually take something like that
with
>a grain of salt, but I mean, that's pretty bold. I can only think he either
>A) Saw a game running, B) saw some definite hardware, or C) learned that
>Square will develop for it. Hmm ...



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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 23:39:29 -0400
From: "Eddy Wu" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [N64] IGN's new look, etc.

I wouldn't go that far, but there has certainly been a quality drop since
Peer left. BTW, Peer will be running the letters section on pocket ign (the
new gameboy and portable systems site). He also mentioned something about
working on another big project for IGN.

>
>A) Cassamassina is a moron. B) IGN64 has gone to hell. C) Where's Peer?



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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 23:39:47 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: [N64] IGN's new look, etc.

In a message dated 7/20/99 10:38:23 PM Central Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< I think it has something to do with some hardware that he saw, just from
the
 tone of what he is saying. Also today in N-Query he talked about not
 worrying about the Dolphin stacking up to the PSX2, which suggests something
 hardware related to me. Maybe confirmation of a 56k modem? a dedicated
 network? Some sort of writability? >>


    Mmmm, dedicated network...

- --David

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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 00:09:19 -0400
From: Wez <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [N64] IGN's new look, etc.

Agreed.  I'm lucky to keep up a habit of visiting the site weekly now...I used
to go right after update every night.  Peer just brought a lot to the site, and
when he left it seemed kinda less fun and the quality level wasn't as high.

Eddy Wu wrote:

> I wouldn't go that far, but there has certainly been a quality drop since
> Peer left. BTW, Peer will be running the letters section on pocket ign (the
> new gameboy and portable systems site). He also mentioned something about
> working on another big project for IGN.
>
> >
> >A) Cassamassina is a moron. B) IGN64 has gone to hell. C) Where's Peer?
>
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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 22:15:43 -0600
From: D Fentie <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [N64] Xenogears+killing god

Yeah ok Matt all knowing master.  I simply said that "I" wouldnt play it
and dont agree with it.  You can do whatever the heck you want I really
couldn't care less.

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> Oh shut UP, D. Fentie. Not everyone has a God, remember. Oh yes, what a
> shame, the game will create "impure thoughts" because "we all know God cannot
> be killed." Well, does it say that it is the Judeo-Christian God? No. It
> could be Zeus or Jupiter or some unnamed higher power. "Ruin people's chances
> of getting into heaven?" Lemme guess, you also think Matt Stone and Trey
> Parker are going to hell for making South Park, too, huh? Welcome to the real
> world, D. Fentie. I for one applaud Square for making such an excellent game
> on such a s risquΘ subject.
>
> ~Matt

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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 00:20:03 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: [N64] Xenogears+killing god

In a message dated 7/20/99 11:19:00 PM Central Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< Yeah ok Matt all knowing master.  I simply said that "I" wouldnt play it
 and dont agree with it.  You can do whatever the heck you want I really
 couldn't care less >>


    You actually said that, not only would you not play it, but you
wanted it to be completely censored so that NOBODY could play it.

- --David

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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 22:20:52 -0600
From: D Fentie <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [N64] IGN's new look, etc.

Matts not that bad, he's actually a cool guy and I have agreed with him
on most of his reviews and predictions.  I think that his opinions are
pretty close to mine when I compare them to what I actually get.  IGN64
while not as great as it used to be is still one of the best Nintendo
information sites on the net and probably will continue to be quite far
into the future.  Peer is gone and he didn't 'make' the entire site
although he did do a hell of a lot of contributions.  Can you give some
proof or why you think these things without giving opinionated
statements?

> A) Cassamassina is a moron. B) IGN64 has gone to hell. C) Where's Peer?
>
> [e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 22:22:22 -0600
From: D Fentie <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [N64] Xenogears+killing god

Yes hence what I said "I personally dont agree with it"  which means
that I dont think it should be made but it is my opinion.

>         You actually said that, not only would you not play it, but you
> wanted it to be completely censored so that NOBODY could play it.
>
> --David
>
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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 22:34:57 -0600
From: D Fentie <[e-mail]>
Subject: [N64] Dolphin

What Matt said on IGN really makes me wonder what the big "N" is up to.
Does anyone want to guess as to what it is?  I personally have no idea,
it could be something like a developer has announced it will be making
games (square) for dolphin... or...?  I don't know but I can't wait to
find out.  Oh yeah, and some of you may think that Matt is a moron but
that has nothing to do with the fact that he does have information about
Dolphin and it will be something I'm sure we all will like.

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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 16:25:14 +1000
From: Alex <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [N64] IGN's new look, etc.

At 22:20 20-07-99 -0600, you wrote:
>Matts not that bad, he's actually a cool guy and I have agreed with him
>on most of his reviews and predictions.  I think that his opinions are
>pretty close to mine when I compare them to what I actually get.  IGN64
>while not as great as it used to be is still one of the best Nintendo
>information sites on the net and probably will continue to be quite far
>into the future.  Peer is gone and he didn't 'make' the entire site
>although he did do a hell of a lot of contributions.  Can you give some
>proof or why you think these things without giving opinionated
>statements?
>

I see... you'd like my unopinionated opinion? Since Matt started there's
been too much sport, wrestling and Acclaim stuff, and not enough Japanese
stuff. Matt can't write as well as Peer which isn't too good considering
Peer is German. There have been less updates than before. Q&A is extremely
boring...

IGN64 may still have better connections than the other sites, but I'd rather
read something like Nintendojo because they do more with what they have.
Remember before Peer started at IGN64 and they were making bad jokes about
Kabuki Joe... it would seem the site as returned to its former glory.

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Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 12:02:10 -0400
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Subject: [N64] FA: ASB2000, Mario Party, & GoldenEye. All Start at $5!!!

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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 09:05:58 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: [N64] IGN's new look, etc.

In a message dated 7/20/99 11:34:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

> C) Where's Peer?
>
>
>  [e-mail]

Doing Q&A at IGN Pocket, and he's the boss of all the IGN sites.

Trey

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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 09:09:48 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: [N64] IGN's new look, etc.

In a message dated 7/21/99 12:23:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

> Can you give some
>  proof or why you think these things without giving opinionated
>  statements?

He bought a new Volkswagen but he bought a new Beetle. A smarter man would
have gotten a Golf III. His taste in music. No hidden messages. He won't
print my letters.

Trey

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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 09:10:46 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: [N64] Dolphin

In a message dated 7/21/99 12:38:04 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

> Oh yeah, and some of you may think that Matt is a moron but
>  that has nothing to do with the fact that he does have information about
>  Dolphin and it will be something I'm sure we all will like.
>

But we have to wait until Next Generation Magazine prints it first. ;)

Trey

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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:35:22 -0500
From: "Dan & Temple Carson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [N64] Star Wars Rogue Squadron

LARGEEYES,

Are you talking about the secret level where you use the code CHICKEN to
play or are you referring to the Imperial Construction Yards?  If it's the
Imperial Construction Yards, all I can really say is good luck.  It is
extremely difficult.

Here are some tips.  As soon as you destroy the communication relays, go
right.  Blow up things as you head to the AT-ST plant.  After you destroy
that one, keep right and you will come to the AT-AT plant.  Go up on the
ledge on the right and follow it all the way in.  After you get in there, be
sure and blow up the Missle Launchers first or you're toast.  I hope that
helps.

Dan
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From: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: Tuesday, July 20, 1999 10:09 PM
Subject: Re: [N64] Star Wars Rogue Squadron

>I still can't get past that supid AT-AT stage where you blow up those
hangar
>things :\



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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:07:40 -0600
From: D Fentie <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [N64] IGN's new look, etc.

I guess you're right; however, I usually only go to the site for news
(their connections) rather than what they do with it.  Thanks for
clairifying what you mean, I didn't quite understand what you meant
before.

Alex wrote:
>
> At 22:20 20-07-99 -0600, you wrote:
> >Matts not that bad, he's actually a cool guy and I have agreed with him
> >on most of his reviews and predictions.  I think that his opinions are
> >pretty close to mine when I compare them to what I actually get.  IGN64
> >while not as great as it used to be is still one of the best Nintendo
> >information sites on the net and probably will continue to be quite far
> >into the future.  Peer is gone and he didn't 'make' the entire site
> >although he did do a hell of a lot of contributions.  Can you give some
> >proof or why you think these things without giving opinionated
> >statements?
> >
>
> I see... you'd like my unopinionated opinion? Since Matt started there's
> been too much sport, wrestling and Acclaim stuff, and not enough Japanese
> stuff. Matt can't write as well as Peer which isn't too good considering
> Peer is German. There have been less updates than before. Q&A is extremely
> boring...
>
> IGN64 may still have better connections than the other sites, but I'd rather
> read something like Nintendojo because they do more with what they have.
> Remember before Peer started at IGN64 and they were making bad jokes about
> Kabuki Joe... it would seem the site as returned to its former glory.
>
> [e-mail]
>
> <insert witty .sig thing here>
>
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