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From: Scott Battram <[e-mail]>
Subject: VAUGHN GEAR FOR SALE
Date: 01 Jun 1996 08:45:18 -0400 (EDT)

Hi there guys...

Got some goal equipment a customer of mine wants to see if I can get rid of
for him, he is a former employee of Vaughn in London, Ontario Canada, and he
has ordered a full set of new stuff from me...

Here goes...

The pads were a set made for Andy Moog, and were sent back to London...

VPG 2000 Legacy 32" White and Black $600.00Cdn or $450.00 US

T-1950 Catch Glove (left) White and Black $170.00Cdn or $130.00 US

B-2000 Lagacy Blocker (right) White and Black $120.00Cdn or $90.00 US

Ideally he would like to sell it as a package, but, if I get people
interested in each individual piece, thats ok too...

Just email me if your interestes...Shipping will be extra of course...

Scott Battram
"Owner - BATTRAM CUSTOM GOAL EQUIPMENT"
Woodstock, Ontario - CANADA
"Manufacturers of Custom Goal Equipment"

***BATTRAM CUSTOM GOAL EQUIPMENT WEB SITE:***
http://venus.execulink.com/~sbattram/index.htm


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From: [e-mail] (Bryan Joseph Gibson )
Subject: Re: Haaaalllllppppp!
Date: 01 Jun 1996 06:34:11 -0700

    I don't know how old this subject is, but here's my comment on the
in-lines....
    If you've ever been by my website, you may have noticed that I use
the Bauer H2000's as described in a previous post by someone.  They are
comparable to the H5's, and have worked out great for me.  The only
thing that I should correct is that they are no longer $190US--that was
in last year's catalog.  They are a little over $200US now...inflation
I guess.  I recall someone mentioning the fact that you obviously sit
up higher on in-lines...have you tried a smaller wheel, say in the
54-64mm range???  I have 64mm's on mine and they help lower your center
of gravity a bit.

Bryan


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From: Resty L Aspuria <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Haaaalllllppppp!
Date: 01 Jun 1996 20:43:09 -0700 (PDT)


On Fri, 31 May 1996, Paul Branchaud wrote:

> Ok, so I finally caved.
>
> Yesterday I went out and bought a pair of inline skates (Bauer H5). First
> thing I noticed was the fact that all my visual cues seemed wrong to
> me: I'm not used to gliding on anything but a sheet of ice, so floors and
> concrete whizzing underneath is weird... Any advice from the experienced
> inliners on how to adjust from ice to concrete? I don't plan to play any
> inline goal for at least a year, but I am interested in learning how to
> skate properly with inlines. My first question may be a bit ahead of my
> current abilities (I have none at the moment): what advantages do I get
> if I decide to rocker my skates?
>
> I will also accept any advice on how to best develop my inline skating
> abilities. I know I have to practice, practice, then practice some more,
> but I want to know *what* I should practice. Also, does anyone have any
> opinion on the Bauer H5? I chose it because it was the best available
> skate in my price range ($180 tx. incl) and it fit pretty well.
>
> Thanks in advance, and look out below!
>
> HotBranch!

Well, actually all I play is inline.  All the drills that you do for ice
should be done for inline, except that glide thing.  I noticed that a few
of those on the list mentioned using smaller wheels.  True they work!  If
you have the money also, you can change the frame on your skate and get a
5 wheel frame.  These also will lower your skate a bit, since 5 wheel
frames are usually made shorter, height wise.  I suggest a harder wheel,
meaning a higher durometer (sp?) just because the harder the wheel the
less grip you are going to get.   Thus probably more to your liking.  I'm
skating on 82A myself.

My 2 cents.

Resty


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From: Resty L Aspuria <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Haaaalllllppppp!
Date: 01 Jun 1996 20:45:46 -0700 (PDT)



On Fri, 31 May 1996, Dave Chapman wrote:

> Uh-oh, look out, Westmount, there's a a new inline skater on the block! :-)
> Well, the first thing I had to get used to is that the skates are higher than
> goalie skates so you have a higher center of gravity.  This'll make you feel
> very unstable and tippy, so I tried to lower my center of gravity by bending
> my knees more until I got used to it.  As for visual clues, watch out for
> potholes!! :-)   More than visually, I had to get used to the vibration under
> my feet.  Biggest thing I guess is to stay centered over your feet and bend
> you knees more than normal to lower your center of gravity and get more
> stability.  (A wider stance will help too)  Make sure to push off strong with
> the front two wheels when striding.  As for rockering, this will help you
> carve turns faster (2 wheels on the pavement at 1 time), but it makes you more
> unstable (for the same reason) so get used to your inlines before you rocker
> them.  I'm not sure if rockering is good for goaltending for maintaining
> balance while standing.
>   Bauer H5's are also the skates I was looking at, since they fit my $$ range
> too.  I alos was wondering if there are any opinions out there....
>
> Dave
> ---------------==============================---------------

As for rockering, I myself do not do it.  Skates do not allow me to.  It
does take some getting used to, but those who do it like it better.
Although they are usually forwards or d.

Resty


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From: [e-mail] (Shawn Woods)
Subject: Help with masks
Date: 02 Jun 1996 00:49:56 -0500

I have a small question.  How do you stop the straps on goal masks from
fraying at the tips.  I have an Eddy Goaltech mask, and my straps are
starting to fray away quite a bit.  Would burning the tips work okay??

Shawn Woods #33
Stonewall Rams, Winnipeg High School Hockey League


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From: Scott Battram <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Help with masks
Date: 02 Jun 1996 09:56:53 -0400 (EDT)

At 12:49 AM 02/06/96 -0500, you wrote:
>I have a small question.  How do you stop the straps on goal masks from
>fraying at the tips.  I have an Eddy Goaltech mask, and my straps are
>starting to fray away quite a bit.  Would burning the tips work okay??
>
>Shawn Woods #33
>Stonewall Rams, Winnipeg High School Hockey League
>
>
>

3 ways!

Melting the material will work if its a nylon based strap like polypropelene
or plain nylon webbing.

But, the two best ways are as follows,

Because I have sewing equipment, on my mask with the pro style elastic, I
folded the material over, so you couldnt see the rough edge, then sewed
it... only problem is if a snap breaks, you have to take the stitching out
to replace it.. in order for the new snap to be placed on the strap!

The other way is to cut the strap (cut it square) and dip the end in (about
1/4" or so) either an epoxy based glue (I use a product called ZYTEC which
is an industrial glue used in the furniture industry) or any type of liquid
glue, that will absorb into the fibres of the straps. Then simply let the
glue dry.

That should take care of the problem for you...



Scott Battram
"Owner - BATTRAM CUSTOM GOAL EQUIPMENT"
Woodstock, Ontario - CANADA
"Manufacturers of Custom Goal Equipment"

***BATTRAM CUSTOM GOAL EQUIPMENT WEB SITE:***
http://venus.execulink.com/~sbattram/index.htm


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From: [e-mail] (Ron Sandler)
Subject: Note from Paul
Date: 02 Jun 1996 11:22:31 -0400

>----- Forwarded message (Paul Cohen <[e-mail]>) -----<


To all Goaltenders,

First of all, I would like to thank Ron Sandler for giving me the
opportunity to be the head instructor for the first annual netminders camp
and conference in Royal Oak Michigan, and also for helping me get on line.

With regards to the enrollment of the school, we thought the turn out would
be a little better than it is, and presently we are trying to ge a later
ice time, so that those of you who live in the Michigan area have more time
to get from work to the camp.  If
anyone has any suggestions please feel free to let us know, or if anyone
has any questions, please don't hessitate to ask them.  This group is
something special, and it would be great to get together for an incredible
experience both on and off the ice.

In regards to the question about the 2 on 1.  First of all, I agree with
both BATTRAM AND HOTBUNCH. In my opinion you have
to be aware of the entire situation.  First you have to know which hand the
shooter with the puck shoots, then which way the far side guy shoots and
you should also be aware of which way your defensemen shoots. I know this
seems alot, but
with practice, you will learn it. I will give you an example.

 If all three players shoot left, the player with the puck will most likely
shoot because it is his highest percentage. THAT IS IF THE DEFENSEMEN IS
PLAYING THE SITUATION
CORRECTLY; AND MOST IMPORTANTLY YOU ARE COMMUNICATING WITH HIM. If he
descides
to pass, your defensemen will deflect it away; if he decides to carry it
across the middle of the slot, your defensemen should be able to poke check
him. However for argument sake, your defensemen is right on the far side
guy, which leaves the shooter on a partial break-away; most forwards do not

like to go to their backhand, and if he did, in this example, I will poke
check the puck and take him out as well because he has committed himself.

Now if it is an experienced shooter, he might drag the puck across the
slot, therefore you have to stay in the set position and shuffle across the
top of your crease with the puck NOT THE SHOOTER, watch the puck, he will
probably give you a head
fake, which will make you go down, and then he will have an easy goal.

With response to CHEATING; If you do not over do it, it is amazing how wide
open a forwards eyes get when he see's more room than normal.  He will
probably then put his head down, MISTAKE, at which point you move back on
your proper
angle, and the shot hits you right in the middle of your pillows.  In the
example above, I would imagine, 95% of the time he will shoot.  However, do
not go to the well to often, and do not give too much so that you will not
be able to get to your correct angle.

In response to SHOOTING OVER THE GLASS, buddy, OH
how I wish they would. My first two years of college, I was told that
anytime we were in trouble I was to shoot it over.  But then the fun ended
and I had to learn to bank it off the glass and over. Unfortunately it will
never happen, so I just scored a goal instead!

Well I hope I could help, and if you are contemplating on comming to the
shcool, let me reasure you again, it is going to be A GREAT TIME IN
MICHIGAN:

PAUL COHEN; OWNER AND HEAD INSTRUCTOR FOR:

PAUL COHEN'S ONE-ON-ONE
SPECIALIZED GOALTENDING
INSTRUCTION



--

Ron Sandler
[e-mail]
3-3-0  3.67 GAA  Spring


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From: Blake Wehlage <[e-mail]>
Subject: Flipping the puck over the boards
Date: 02 Jun 1996 14:42 EDT

        Ok all, I was ejected from my game on Saturnday from my game for
speaking my mind to the ref about his call, I one not to talk back, at least
not to the ref but, here was the situation.

        I made a double pad save slidding to my right then the puck hit a
guys stick who my defenseman was tying up (my defense played very good that
game) then the puck was rolling on its side towards the goal and I was out
of the crease so I dived to the puck with my glove and some how the puck
wasn't all the way in my glove when I brought it up and the puck went flying
into the stands. The ref blew the whistle and called me for delay of game.

         I was really mad, so I skated as hard as I could to the ref (he was
talking to the linesmen) and did a hockey stop spaying ice on him. That got
his attention. Then I spoke my mind getting me ejected. So if I can get your
guys in put on this, was I right or wrong?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Blake "Pokey" Wehlage     Gaa- 3.69
<[e-mail]>         Record- 2-4-4
Age- 13                   Final Standings- 2nd Place (Beat in Championship)
President & Founder:
Revolution Software       "I have the fastest glove in the east!"
Profanity Software        "Hackers never stop hacking they just get caught"
VSoft

My life- Rarely eat or sleep, Hack til' 7:00a, goto school, play goalie
til' 5:00p, hack til' 7:00a
Hank Aaron- d:-)!-<   Pope- +<:-)   Santa Claus- *<:-) Yo Mama- :-0

Current Girlfriend(s)- Lindsey Wilcox, Laura Schubring
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From: [e-mail] (Bryan Joseph Gibson )
Subject: Re: Flipping the puck over the boards
Date: 02 Jun 1996 12:19:56 -0700

You wrote:
>Ok all, I was ejected from my game on Saturnday from my game for
>speaking my mind to the ref about his call, I one not to talk back, at
>least not to the ref but, here was the situation.
>I made a double pad save slidding to my right then the puck hit a
>guys stick who my defenseman was tying up (my defense played very good
>that game) then the puck was rolling on its side towards the goal and
>I was out of the crease so I dived to the puck with my glove and some
>how the puck wasn't all the way in my glove when I brought it up and
>the puck went flying into the stands. The ref blew the whistle and
>called me for delay of game.
>
>I was really mad, so I skated as hard as I could to the ref (he was
>talking to the linesmen) and did a hockey stop spaying ice on him.
>That got his attention. Then I spoke my mind getting me ejected. So if
>I can get your guys in put on this, was I right or wrong?

Blake,

    Let the forwards do that kinda thing...Even though that is a bad
call, let the ref call the game.  Talk to him after the game, if you
can, in a calm tone.  Some people are more understanding when you keep
your lid on.  If your team has a captain, express your feelings through
him/her.  Some of us can't afford to get ejected when there is no
backup...I don't know if this applies to you.  Even if you didn't get
ejected, I wouldn't let things like that interfere with my
concentration.

Bryan


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From: Scott Battram <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Flipping the puck over the boards
Date: 02 Jun 1996 15:56:59 -0400 (EDT)

At 02:42 PM 02/06/96 EDT, you wrote:
>        Ok all, I was ejected from my game on Saturnday from my game for
>speaking my mind to the ref about his call, I one not to talk back, at least
>not to the ref but, here was the situation.
>
>        I made a double pad save slidding to my right then the puck hit a
>guys stick who my defenseman was tying up (my defense played very good that
>game) then the puck was rolling on its side towards the goal and I was out
>of the crease so I dived to the puck with my glove and some how the puck
>wasn't all the way in my glove when I brought it up and the puck went flying
>into the stands. The ref blew the whistle and called me for delay of game.
>
>         I was really mad, so I skated as hard as I could to the ref (he was
>talking to the linesmen) and did a hockey stop spaying ice on him. That got
>his attention. Then I spoke my mind getting me ejected. So if I can get your
>guys in put on this, was I right or wrong?
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>Blake "Pokey" Wehlage     Gaa- 3.69
><[e-mail]>         Record- 2-4-4
>Age- 13                   Final Standings- 2nd Place (Beat in Championship)
>President & Founder:
>Revolution Software       "I have the fastest glove in the east!"
>Profanity Software        "Hackers never stop hacking they just get caught"
>VSoft
>
>My life- Rarely eat or sleep, Hack til' 7:00a, goto school, play goalie
>til' 5:00p, hack til' 7:00a
>Hank Aaron- d:-)!-<   Pope- +<:-)   Santa Claus- *<:-) Yo Mama- :-0
>
>Current Girlfriend(s)- Lindsey Wilcox, Laura Schubring
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
>

YOUR DEAD WRONG!!

It makes no sense to argue a call... no matter what... its not like the ref
is going to embarrass himself and reverse his decision... just take the
penalty and be quiet.... not only will he remember you... but don't expect a
break from him in any future games...

If you can build a good rap pore with refs, you would be surprised what they
will let go... in my leagues, because of my involvement in hockey, and in
business, most of the local refs know me, and I know them, and have known
them since I was a young kid in minor hockey... or, a lot of the current
refs, I grew up and actually played hockey with... or were only a few years
apart in age from me...

Treating them good, and going with their calls... is the only way to do it...

Couple weeks ago... I was playing, and a buddy of mine was wearing the bands...
I slashed a guy in the crease on the ankle of course... he let the first two
go, but the third one he had to call... now it would make no sense to argue
this... so I didn't... sometime the refs make mistakes too... just like what
you did... and they will miss a few calls... but geez... don't make a big
skate up to them.. and do the big stop... and spray them.... cause... I
would have done the same thing they did, and if I happened to be your coach,
or the person making the lineups... you would running the gate for a few
games for actions like that... provided your team has a spare goalie...

Actions like that do nothing but set a bad example for hockey... and is the
reasons why a lot of refs hang up their skates...I have seen officials get
coffee thrown at them, punched by fans, players... verbally abused by
coaches, parents players... its no wonder no one wants to do it... I learned
along time ago... no matter what don't argue... there calls for the most
part will stand... and heck... its not like that was a game 7 of the Stanley
Cup!

Take the penalty and shut up... who knows he may even cut you a break if he
realizes he made a bad call (refs arrent stupid...) they know when they
screw up... and they will usually even it out before the games over...

Scott Battram
"Owner - BATTRAM CUSTOM GOAL EQUIPMENT"
Woodstock, Ontario - CANADA
"Manufacturers of Custom Goal Equipment"

***BATTRAM CUSTOM GOAL EQUIPMENT WEB SITE:***
http://venus.execulink.com/~sbattram/index.htm


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From: Blake Wehlage <[e-mail]>
Subject: about my earlier e-mail
Date: 02 Jun 1996 16:18 EDT

attntion everyone- I know want i did was wrong I realized that after the
game and apolozied to the ref, but what i wanted to know is if the call was
right or wrong of calling a delay of game penalty on me????

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Blake "Pokey" Wehlage     Gaa- 3.69
<[e-mail]>         Record- 2-4-4
Age- 13                   Final Standings- 2nd Place (Beat in Championship)
President & Founder:
Revolution Software       "I have the fastest glove in the east!"
Profanity Software        "Hackers never stop hacking they just get caught"
VSoft

My life- Rarely eat or sleep, Hack til' 7:00a, goto school, play goalie
til' 5:00p, hack til' 7:00a
Hank Aaron- d:-)!-<   Pope- +<:-)   Santa Claus- *<:-) Yo Mama- :-0

Current Girlfriend(s)- Lindsey Wilcox, Laura Schubring
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


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From: ADAM FORSYTH <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Haaaalllllppppp!
Date: 03 Jun 1996 10:35:46 +1000

Hi All,

First of all, Hotbranch.....welcome aboard!  As far as rockering your skates
goes, I would advise it.  Yes you lose a little stability to begin with, but
with a little skating practice, this is hardly noticeable.  The big advantages
are:

1)  More manouverability.  You can get your skates turned more quickly, which
really helps with skate saves and t-glides
2)  At any one time you only have 2 wheels in contact with the ground.  Less
contact means less friction, and greater sliding ability

I would also agree that goalie wheels are a great investment.  I have Kuzak
goalie pro wheels on my skates.

As for what to practice, street skating really helps your balance.

Now for my problem.  Last night, I got beaten to the far side 3 times in the
one game.  I used to get beaten to the short side a lot, until I realised I was
lining up on the shooter, not the puck.  All three shots were from the glove
side, near the face off dot, and all shooters were right handed.  All three
shots went in low stick side.  I am predominantly a butterfly goalie.  Any
suggestions as to what I might be doing wrong?

Thanks to everyone for keeping results off the list!  We are getting all 7
games of the Stanley Cup LIVE down under for the first time ever, so I will
know the results as soon as you do :)  Still, there may be other people that
are getting the games delayed, so please at least include a SPOILER message :)

See ya

Adam
#32 Monash Generals
4-0-0    2.75 GAA   .904 sv %


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From: [e-mail] (Bryan Joseph Gibson )
Subject: Re: about my earlier e-mail
Date: 02 Jun 1996 18:10:36 -0700

You wrote:
>attntion everyone- I know want i did was wrong I realized that after
>the game and apolozied to the ref, but what i wanted to know is if the
>call was right or wrong of calling a delay of game penalty on me????

If you are the last one to touch the puck when it goes out, it will
probably get called 9 times out of 10.  It an unfair rule, but we have
to live with it...

Bryan


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From: [e-mail] (Ron Sandler)
Subject: (Fwd) Fwd: E mail list
Date: 02 Jun 1996 21:47:24 -0400


Forwarded message:
Subj:    E mail list

Hi,
Can you please tell me how I can E mail all of the goalies on your list. I
am looking to buy a FULL head Ernie Higgins mask as well as a Lefty Wilson
mask

Ed sent me this today.  Can anyone help?
--

Ron Sandler
[e-mail]
3-3-0  3.67 GAA  Spring


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From: [e-mail] (Shawn Woods)
Subject: Help with masks
Date: 02 Jun 1996 23:19:38 -0500

Thanx everyone.  I used a glue gun on the ends and it worked great.  I never
thought of that.

Shawn Woods #33
Stonewall Rams, Winnipeg High School Hockey League


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From: CALDERON OLIVER <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: far side shots
Date: 03 Jun 1996 00:21:32 -0400

On Sun, 2 Jun 1996, ADAM FORSYTH wrote:

> Now for my problem.  Last night, I got beaten to the far side 3 times in the
> one game.  I used to get beaten to the short side a lot, until I realised I was
> lining up on the shooter, not the puck.  All three shots were from the glove
> side, near the face off dot, and all shooters were right handed.  All three
> shots went in low stick side.  I am predominantly a butterfly goalie.  Any
> suggestions as to what I might be doing wrong?
>
> Adam
>
If the goals were on the rush, then you might have been moving in the
wrong direction too much. MOre likely, your angles were off a little
during that game, and you might have been compensating to your glove hand
a little too much. I would hardly consider 3 goals a big problem, even if
they were all in the same game - no one's angles are on ALL the time...if
you are concerned, though, I find it helpful to go over your angles with
a friend every so often. Have him skate to a spot, line up, and get him
to tell you if you're leaning to one side or the other.

-MOSSey
"Pain's Temporary - Glory's FOREVER"         | Oliver "Moss" Calderon
"Do not go gentle into that good night;      | [e-mail]
 Rage, rage against the dying of the light." |
 ENGINEERS RULE THE WORLD!!!!! UoT MMS 9T9   |


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From: CALDERON OLIVER <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Another Question
Date: 03 Jun 1996 00:27:31 -0400

On Fri, 31 May 1996, Blake Wehlage wrote:

> Hey guys and ladies,
>
> here is another situation  thad came up friday night  :
>
> |------------------------------------------------|
> |                           (1)x                 |
> |                                                |
> |                                                |
> |                                                |
> |                          o                     |
> |   X    x                                       |
> |                                                |
> |                                o x             |
> |     o            o                             |
> |                    @                           |
> |                   |_______|                    |
> |                                                |
> |____________________________________(2)x__o_____|
>
> (note: I was not screened)
> @-goalie
> o defenseman
> X-puck hamndler
> x offfenseman
>
> They scored by passing back to (1) and he passed to the player(2) behind the
> net who jammed it in the net. What should I have done?
> Also I feel more people should do plays if they have questions instead of
> decribing them it helps!!!#
>
If player (2) walked out from behind the goal line and jammed it in, a
number of things could have happened. YOu might not have gotten to your
post fast enough. Or he might have just beaten you. It's hard to tell,
even with your diagram, which says nothing of the actual shot. t looks
like essentially a wraparound situation, so I guess I'll say something
about that. Just get to the post fast, try to strip the puck before he
gets in shooting position in front, and if he does get a shot off, cut
off the ice and the low corners. This can be done using the Brodeur stick
on the ice method, stacking the pads, good butterfly, etc. It's general
advice, but I don't have much to go on.

-MOSSey
"Pain's Temporary - Glory's FOREVER"         | Oliver "Moss" Calderon
"Do not go gentle into that good night;      | [e-mail]
 Rage, rage against the dying of the light." |
 ENGINEERS RULE THE WORLD!!!!! UoT MMS 9T9   |


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From: [e-mail] (Shawn Woods)
Subject: About the list
Date: 02 Jun 1996 23:29:37 -0500

Why do I keep getting an undeliverable mail message whenever I send a
message to the list??

Shawn Woods #33
Stonewall Rams, Winnipeg High School Hockey League


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From: Mike Foster <[e-mail]>
Subject: screen shots
Date: 03 Jun 1996 05:13:03 -0400 (EDT)

I don't know whether to be happy or upset... On the one hand, I got my
second honest win last night (three were from forfeits) in a hard-fought 2-1
game. Why would I be upset? It could have been my first shutout! I stopped
*every* puck I saw.... Problem being that there were a couple I didn't see,
and one of those was in the net before I realized the guy had taken the
shot. Is there anything a goalie can do to avoid being screened like that?
(on the play in question, I had just yelled to my d-man that he was in my
way, and he moved, but a winger from their team had just skated into my line
of sight up by the left circle, and I never saw the point man let the shot
go. By the time I saw the puck come around the winger, it was too late to
move. The puck was in the net.)

Mike
#88
Aww, hell with it... no reason to be upset. I played a hell of a game!


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From: [e-mail] (SOLAR BEAR )
Subject: Re: About the list
Date: 03 Jun 1996 04:18:31 -0700

Shawn wrote:
>
>Why do I keep getting an undeliverable mail message whenever I send a
>message to the list??
>
I get the same message, yet my mail gets posted.  Does everyone get the
same message?  Gibby, you have Netcom also, do you get it too?

Donna
Solar Bear #30


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From: Scott Battram <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: About the list
Date: 03 Jun 1996 08:12:25 -0400 (EDT)

At 04:18 AM 03/06/96 -0700, you wrote:
>Shawn wrote:
>>
>>Why do I keep getting an undeliverable mail message whenever I send a
>>message to the list??
>>
>I get the same message, yet my mail gets posted.  Does everyone get the
>same message?  Gibby, you have Netcom also, do you get it too?
>
>Donna
>Solar Bear #30
>
>
>

I get it too!!!

Scott Battram
"Owner - BATTRAM CUSTOM GOAL EQUIPMENT"
Woodstock, Ontario - CANADA
"Manufacturers of Custom Goal Equipment"

***BATTRAM CUSTOM GOAL EQUIPMENT WEB SITE:***
http://venus.execulink.com/~sbattram/index.htm


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From: Sheri Bacon <[e-mail]>
Subject: Angles (was: far side shots
Date: 03 Jun 1996 09:40:48 -0400 (EDT)

On Mon, 3 Jun 1996, CALDERON OLIVER wrote:

> you are concerned, though, I find it helpful to go over your angles with
> a friend every so often. Have him skate to a spot, line up, and get him
> to tell you if you're leaning to one side or the other.

Another great way to check your angles with a friend is to have 3 pucks.
Put one right on the center of the goal line in the net.  Then have your
friend skate around carrying the second puck on his/her stick you follow
the puck and have your friend stop at a random point.  They leave the
second puck where it stops, you don't move and they put the third puck
exactly between your feet.  Then you step away and see if the three pucks
are in a straight line, if they are you were lined up with the puck
correctly!

Sheri #33


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From: Wolf <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Delay of game
Date: 03 Jun 1996 10:47:22 PDT


--- On Fri, 31 May 1996 16:40:58 -0400  Ron Sandler
<[e-mail]> wrote:


>Two things, one germane and one an abuse of the list but since this first
>is ok and I'm confused, frustrated, at wits end, and sad. . .
>
>Last year I helped my team lose in the playoffs by misplaying a puck.  The
>puck was coming into my zone alone, with an offender in solo hot pursuit.
>I reached the puck easily before he did, but with so little confidence in
>my shooting ability, I slid it one-hand backhand to my left into the
>corner.  Naturally, it didn't go far enough, and all I did was make a nice
>pass to the onrushing offender.  I didn't even get an assit.
>
>Wednesday, (read above lines 2-4) I left the puck the offender and was
>promptly scored upon as I was bemoaing my cowardice to myself.
>
>Besides learning to shoot (new number 1 priority), I could have reached the
>puck in the high slot (about top of circle maybe) and covered e.g. picked
>it up or fallen on it.  I also know that it is a penalty to do so.  What
>has been you guys actual experience with officials calling this sort of
>penalty?

>Ron Sandler
>[e-mail]
>3-3-0  3.67 GAA  Spring
>
>

-----------------End of Original Message-----------------
Ron,
First off practice playing the puck. I break up more breakaways by getting
to the puck before the offender in my zone. All you have to do once you get
to the puck is simply flip it over the offenders stick or bank it off of the
wall. I have been known to cover the puck on rare occasions when there are
more than one offender coming in the zone after the puck. I have been out as
far as the top of the circle when this has happened and NEVER been called
for a penalty. Actually I am confused as to why you would think that this
would be a penalty... You are not going to get a penalty for this if there
is a offender coming at you, the goalie is allowed to freeze the puck when
an offending player is bearing down on him!

Wolf #30
Wolves 3-0
sv% .884 GAA 2.67


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From: Wolf <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: your mask
Date: 03 Jun 1996 11:09:10 PDT


--- On Fri, 31 May 1996 22:07:00 -0400 (EDT)  JP Richardson
<[e-mail]> wrote:

>
>
>Wolf,
>
>        Are you the wolf on the list that had his mask painted by Bill
Melton?
>
>JP
>


-----------------End of Original Message-----------------
Yep, that's me. The mask looks great! I played my first game with the mask
and we also got our new uniforms. I felt great and played equally as well.
With the exception of 2 goals that were scored by my defense (accedentally
of course) I would have had a shutout! It didn't really matter anyways we
one 6-2.

Wolf #30
Wolves 3-0
sv% .884  GAA 2.67


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From: Paul Branchaud <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Angles (was: far side shots
Date: 03 Jun 1996 11:29:07 -0400 (EDT)

On Mon, 3 Jun 1996, Sheri Bacon wrote:

> Another great way to check your angles with a friend is to have 3 pucks.
> Put one right on the center of the goal line in the net.  Then have your
> friend skate around carrying the second puck on his/her stick you follow
> the puck and have your friend stop at a random point.  They leave the
> second puck where it stops, you don't move and they put the third puck
> exactly between your feet.  Then you step away and see if the three pucks
> are in a straight line, if they are you were lined up with the puck
> correctly!

When I met Sheri last summer, she told me about this drill and I thought
it was interesting, so I stored it in that peanut I call my brain and
pulled it out this past season. Dang! Does that drill work well! It's
tougher but just as effective if you're on the side boards, using two
pylons as goalposts (a bit larger than usual). Makes you REAL aware of
the center of your net.

HotBranch!
==============
Paul Branchaud                       "I would rather be a failure doing
[e-mail]                         something I love than be good
Technical Writer, Visual Edge Software     doing something I hate."
3950 Cote Vertu, St-Laurent, Qc. H4R 1V4     George Burns (1896-1996)


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From: Paul Branchaud <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Help with masks
Date: 03 Jun 1996 11:33:38 -0400 (EDT)

On Sun, 2 Jun 1996, Shawn Woods wrote:

> I have a small question.  How do you stop the straps on goal masks from
> fraying at the tips.  I have an Eddy Goaltech mask, and my straps are
> starting to fray away quite a bit.  Would burning the tips work okay??

Burning is only useful if you have a nylon strap. Eddy uses cotton more
often than not. I usually tape up the end of my cotton straps to keep
them from fraying. Hockey tape and duct tape: the two most useful items
in the world! ;)

HotBranch!
==============
Paul Branchaud                       "I would rather be a failure doing
[e-mail]                         something I love than be good
Technical Writer, Visual Edge Software     doing something I hate."
3950 Cote Vertu, St-Laurent, Qc. H4R 1V4     George Burns (1896-1996)


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From: [e-mail] (Biff Yamazaki)
Subject: Re[2]: Haaaalllllppppp!
Date: 03 Jun 1996 08:35:47 -0700

If you're looking for roller prices, try to get a copy of "Inline Hockey"
or "Roller HOckey" magazine, or equivalent.  The roller specialty stores
have been selling H5 comps for as low as $149.  Ironically, while Southern
California is a horrible place to buy ice equipment, for inline hockey
stuff, it's actually pretty cheap...

>I have a pair of the H5 Comps ( the difference between the H5 and H5 comps is
>the chassis is aluminum on the comps) and I love them.  One thing to check out
>if you're in the market is the Bauer H2000 from Source For Sports.  They claim
>it is identical to the H5 Comp and it is only $190 US.  This seems to be a lot
>cheaper than the H5 Comp prices I've seen, and paid for mine :-(   I
>played goal
>twice on inline and found it very different (read more difficult).  Most of the
>roller hockey season I played defense instead.
>
>-George Morris
>_______________________________________________________________________________
>Subject: Re: Haaaalllllppppp!
>From:    [e-mail] at CCMAIL
>Date:    5/31/96  3:18 PM
>
>Uh-oh, look out, Westmount, there's a a new inline skater on the block! :-)
>Well, the first thing I had to get used to is that the skates are higher than
>goalie skates so you have a higher center of gravity.  This'll make you feel
>very unstable and tippy, so I tried to lower my center of gravity by bending
>my knees more until I got used to it.  As for visual clues, watch out for
>potholes!! :-)   More than visually, I had to get used to the vibration under
>my feet.  Biggest thing I guess is to stay centered over your feet and bend
>you knees more than normal to lower your center of gravity and get more
>stability.  (A wider stance will help too)  Make sure to push off strong with
>the front two wheels when striding.  As for rockering, this will help you
>carve turns faster (2 wheels on the pavement at 1 time), but it makes you more
>unstable (for the same reason) so get used to your inlines before you rocker
>them.  I'm not sure if rockering is good for goaltending for maintaining
>balance while standing.
>  Bauer H5's are also the skates I was looking at, since they fit my $$ range
>too.  I alos was wondering if there are any opinions out there....
>
>Dave
>---------------==============================---------------
>David Chapman               Internet: [e-mail]
>IBM Microelectronics         IBM net: [e-mail]
>[phone] (tieline 446)    vnet: dchap at btv
>---------------==============================---------------

Biff Yamazaki
Housing Office
[phone]



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From: Dave Steinhart <[e-mail]>
Subject: undeliverable messages
Date: 03 Jun 1996 09:54:04 -0600 (MDT)

Ok, I'm working on th problem.  All the bounced messages are supposed to be
sent to me (NO, don't forward them to me), so something is wrong.  I'll get
the cogniscenti to look at it...


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From: "BURNS,JEREMY"  <[e-mail]>
Subject:  HAAAALLLLLPPPPP!
Date: 03 Jun 1996  11:41AM

Re inline questions:

Rockering?  Have seen some yes & some no answers on this..as for me I
say yes 'cause maneuverability takes precedence over speed, which is
your trade off with rockering, and I'd rather be able to corner better
since I won't be needing to fly across the rink or anything...

Bauers rule for inline hockey!  Although I am told that the aluminum
chassis variety are intended for Sport Court-style indoor type
surfaces, and not for concrete--a factory guy saw a buncha people with
the aluminums at this tournament we were at and he was saying "man,
they're just gonna ruin those skates"...I dunno personally so take that
for what it's worth, I guess...

Everyone suggests a smaller wheel for goaltending...as far as the
bearings you use I think ABEC 1's are fine 'cause again speed isn't
necessarily your main area of focus...so you probably won't need 3's or
5's or anything...

Undeliverable messages?  On another list I'm on they kept getting
bounces recently 'cause of that new Compuserve Light (without the
bitter aftertaste, presumably) online service called Wow...apparently
they hadn't got all the bugs outta Wow's mail handler so it kept
sending back stuff to the original mailer that it was getting from
mailing lists subbed to by Wow customers...dunno if this is related to
what's happening here, but FYI in any case...

thanks
jeremy


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From: [e-mail] (Malcolm Preen)
Subject: Re: Delay of game
Date: 03 Jun 1996 16:14:26 +0000 (BST)

Wolf writes :
><[e-mail]> wrote:
>>
>>Besides learning to shoot (new number 1 priority), I could have reached the
>>puck in the high slot (about top of circle maybe) and covered e.g. picked
>>it up or fallen on it.  I also know that it is a penalty to do so.  What
>>has been you guys actual experience with officials calling this sort of
>>penalty?

>for a penalty. Actually I am confused as to why you would think that this
>would be a penalty... You are not going to get a penalty for this if there
>is a offender coming at you, the goalie is allowed to freeze the puck when
>an offending player is bearing down on him!

By IIHF regulations a goalie is subject to a minor penalty for freezing
the puck outside of the hash marks (although a little leeway is given if
you freeze inside, and slide out, in my experience).

Malcolm
--
Malcolm (summer '96 - 6-1-0 sav%89.52 GAA 3.71)
Goaltending is 90% mental and the other 10% is in your head


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From: Derrick Henderson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Angles (was: far side shots
Date: 03 Jun 1996 15:39:42 -0400 (EDT)


> On Mon, 3 Jun 1996, CALDERON OLIVER wrote:
>
> > you are concerned, though, I find it helpful to go over your angles with
> > a friend every so often. Have him skate to a spot, line up, and get him
> > to tell you if you're leaning to one side or the other.
>
> Another great way to check your angles with a friend is to have 3 pucks.
> Put one right on the center of the goal line in the net.  Then have your
> friend skate around carrying the second puck on his/her stick you follow
> the puck and have your friend stop at a random point.  They leave the
> second puck where it stops, you don't move and they put the third puck
> exactly between your feet.  Then you step away and see if the three pucks
> are in a straight line, if they are you were lined up with the puck
> correctly!
>
> Sheri #33
>
>

\_O_   Ordinary people will have their 15 minutes of fame. Me? I'll be the
[]-D   one stuck with my 15 minutes of infamy.  -  Derrick Henderson
 8\8_
              http://www.tripod.com/~DerrickH/DerrickH.html

Sheri, that sounds like an EXCELLENT drill. I'm gonna have to try that
when our arena opens back up. Thanks.

Derrick

**************************************************************************
* "...And so these children who you spit on as they try to change their  *
* world, are immune to your consultations. They are quite aware of what  *
* they are going through..." - David Bowie                               *
* ---------------------------------------------------------------------- *
* I don't suffer  Madness takes  When they made me    People may call me *
* from insanity,  its tool.      they broke the mold. crazy, but they    *
* I enjoy every   Please have    Rumor has it they    can't say I ain't  *
* minute of it.   exact change.  beat the moldmaker.  a lot of fun.      *
*                                                                        *
*        Derrick "En Fuego" Henderson - [e-mail]            *
**************************************************************************



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From: goalie <[e-mail]>
Subject: mask painting
Date: 03 Jun 1996 12:47:45 -0700 (PDT)

Hi all,
Does anyone know a really good mask painter in Vancouver? If not then
where would be a good place to send it for painting. I have some designs
worked out already, just need a painter. BTW, thanks for all the info
about Coreys mask from my other question!
Thanks,
Lisa


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From: Dave Steinhart <[e-mail]>
Subject: bounced messages--more info\
Date: 03 Jun 1996 14:16:57 -0600 (MDT)

DO NOT send any more messages to me or the list regarding the bounce
messages you are receiving.  The reason you are getting them is because
the sysadmins at xmission.com changed all the lists back to Majordomo
instead of SmartList.  I actually like SmartList, and I think it has
been much easier to administrate the list with it.

So I had them switch us back to SmartList, but we were under Majordomo's
spell for a day, and the bounce messages you have received are a result
of that.

So you should not receive NEW (check the dates) bounce message when you
post to the list.  If you do, let me know (again, check the dates--if you
haven't logged in for a couple of days, you may have old messgaes in your
mailbox).

Thanks, and sorry for any inconvenience.

Dave

P.S. ObGoalie: I noticed The Beezer wearing Brown leg pads, similar to
those worn by Grant Fuhr.  But what the heck kind of pads do Barasso wear?


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From: Blake Wehlage <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: your mask
Date: 03 Jun 1996 16:16 EDT

At 11:09 AM 6/3/96 PDT, Wolf wrote:
>
>--- On Fri, 31 May 1996 22:07:00 -0400 (EDT)  JP Richardson
><[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>Wolf,
>>
>>        Are you the wolf on the list that had his mask painted by Bill
>Melton?
>>
>>JP
>>
>
>
>-----------------End of Original Message-----------------
>Yep, that's me. The mask looks great! I played my first game with the mask
>and we also got our new uniforms. I felt great and played equally as well.
>With the exception of 2 goals that were scored by my defense (accedentally
>of course) I would have had a shutout! It didn't really matter anyways we
>one 6-2.
>
>Wolf #30
>Wolves 3-0
>sv% .884  GAA 2.67
>
>
>
Don't you mean won? not one?
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From: "Mark J. Sonnier" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Barasso's Pads
Date: 03 Jun 1996 12:35:20 -0800

At 02:16 PM 6/3/96 -0600, Dave Steinhart wrote:

>P.S. ObGoalie: I noticed The Beezer wearing Brown leg pads, similar to
>those worn by Grant Fuhr.  But what the heck kind of pads do Barasso wear?

The look a lot like a pair of VICs that a guy in my league wears.  The
little hinges at the knees give them away.

Mark Sonnier
Suffering from rare Alaska sunburn - and not from the red light going off! :)
-----
Mark J. Sonnier, C.P.M.
Purchasing Agent / Hockey Enthusiast
University of Alaska

"A bad day in goal is infinitely preferable to a good day at work."


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From: [e-mail] (Mike Dockery)
Subject: Pad laces
Date: 03 Jun 1996 15:06:51 MDT

Are the toe pad laces recommended for young goalies aged 12-16?  The
possibility of difficulty lacing the pads for youngsters occurs to me....In
a local hockey store, I saw some little Heaton Helite's with the laces...

AND, why do pro goalies *still* use the straps?  Roy and many others still
use the straps.  I had misgivings, but after reading various catalogs and
consulting with Scott Battram, the toe laces have worked out much better..

Mike #95


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From: Scott Battram <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Barasso's Pads
Date: 03 Jun 1996 17:08:18 -0400 (EDT)

At 12:35 PM 03/06/96 -0800, you wrote:
>At 02:16 PM 6/3/96 -0600, Dave Steinhart wrote:
>
>>P.S. ObGoalie: I noticed The Beezer wearing Brown leg pads, similar to
>>those worn by Grant Fuhr.  But what the heck kind of pads do Barasso wear?
>
>The look a lot like a pair of VICs that a guy in my league wears.  The
>little hinges at the knees give them away.
>
>Mark Sonnier
>Suffering from rare Alaska sunburn - and not from the red light going off! :)
>-----
>Mark J. Sonnier, C.P.M.
>Purchasing Agent / Hockey Enthusiast
>University of Alaska
>
>"A bad day in goal is infinitely preferable to a good day at work."
>
>
>

His pads are either PETE SMITH, or AEROFLEX... both pads are very similar,
and since there is no name on the pads its hard to tell exactly which ones
they are...

Whatever they are, they are certainly not the vics like your talking
about... those vics are a low end pad......

Although, I personally do not like the look of the SMITH or AEROFLEX pad,
they have to look that way to get the weight down to what it is...

Scott Battram
"Owner - BATTRAM CUSTOM GOAL EQUIPMENT"
Woodstock, Ontario - CANADA
"Manufacturers of Custom Goal Equipment"

***BATTRAM CUSTOM GOAL EQUIPMENT WEB SITE:***
http://venus.execulink.com/~sbattram/index.htm


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From: "Evan Friedman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Los Angeles area
Date: 03 Jun 1996 14:23:52 -0700

To all LA area ice goalies:

I'm compiling a list of possible substitute goaltenders.  If you are interested, please send me a note at my address, [e-mail].

My season has 10 games, plus possible playoffs, remaining. I'm out for the season - pinched nerve in my elbow (at least that's what the Dr. says).

The league, my coach, and team captain are also helping find subs.

You should be a good beginner through a good intermediate goalie.  If you're excellent, my teammates will love you and the league will get upset. The league claims the level is novice, and some of the players are novices, but the level is more of a top novice to lower intermediate. Most players have several seasons of experience.

If I know that I need a goalie for a specific game, I'll contact you using the information you send. Thanks.

Evan



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From: Derrick Henderson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Pad laces
Date: 03 Jun 1996 17:30:15 -0400 (EDT)


\_O_   Ordinary people will have their 15 minutes of fame. Me? I'll be the
[]-D   one stuck with my 15 minutes of infamy.  -  Derrick Henderson
 8\8_
              http://www.tripod.com/~DerrickH/DerrickH.html

Laces work pretty good so I guess it'd be okay for younger goalies.

And as far as some pro's who still use straps, it's outta comfort or
superstition. Most goalies do the things they've done since they played
in like Juniors.  Roy is DEFINITELY one of the more superstitious goalies
in the league, also. So just keep in mind that it does come down to
goalie preferance. I know that 2 of our three goalies at Bowling Green St
still used straps because they have toe flaps that cover the skate. They
don't like the straps. But our starter has always liked laces and had
Vaughn redo his pads to accomodate laces better rather than straps.

Derrick

**************************************************************************
* "...And so these children who you spit on as they try to change their  *
* world, are immune to your consultations. They are quite aware of what  *
* they are going through..." - David Bowie                               *
* ---------------------------------------------------------------------- *
* I don't suffer  Madness takes  When they made me    People may call me *
* from insanity,  its tool.      they broke the mold. crazy, but they    *
* I enjoy every   Please have    Rumor has it they    can't say I ain't  *
* minute of it.   exact change.  beat the moldmaker.  a lot of fun.      *
*                                                                        *
*        Derrick "En Fuego" Henderson - [e-mail]            *
**************************************************************************



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From: Paul Branchaud <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Los Angeles area
Date: 03 Jun 1996 17:39:35 -0400 (EDT)

On 3 Jun 1996, Evan Friedman wrote:

> If I know that I need a goalie for a specific game, I'll contact you using the information you send. Thanks.

If you foot the airfare, I'll play. I have 13 years experience and could
probably improve my numbers in a novice league. ;)

==============
Paul Branchaud                       "I would rather be a failure doing
[e-mail]                         something I love than be good
Technical Writer, Visual Edge Software     doing something I hate."
3950 Cote Vertu, St-Laurent, Qc. H4R 1V4     George Burns (1896-1996)


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From: "Mark J. Sonnier" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Pad laces
Date: 03 Jun 1996 13:54:57 -0800

At 05:30 PM 6/3/96 -0400, Derrick Henderson wrote:

>And as far as some pro's who still use straps, it's outta comfort or
>superstition. Most goalies do the things they've done since they played
>in like Juniors.  Roy is DEFINITELY one of the more superstitious goalies
>in the league, also. So just keep in mind that it does come down to
>goalie preferance. I know that 2 of our three goalies at Bowling Green St
>still used straps because they have toe flaps that cover the skate. They
>don't like the straps. But our starter has always liked laces and had
>Vaughn redo his pads to accomodate laces better rather than straps.

I for one never even SAW laces until flipping through a catalog a couple
years back.  Though they're all I've ever worn, it's not due to
superstition.  Rather, the toe buckle system always seemed like a natural to
me.  The combination of get-ready speed and overall sturdiness have made me
a real strap fan.

Just my two brass farthings...

Mark Sonnier
and, uh, beware the Panthers :)


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From: [e-mail] (Jeff Wilson)
Subject: Angles (was: far side shots
Date: 03 Jun 1996 19:19:51 -0500 (CDT)

In a previous message, Sheri Bacon wrote:
> On Mon, 3 Jun 1996, CALDERON OLIVER wrote:
>
> > you are concerned, though, I find it helpful to go over your angles with
> > a friend every so often. Have him skate to a spot, line up, and get him
> > to tell you if you're leaning to one side or the other.
>
> Another great way to check your angles with a friend is to have 3 pucks.
> Put one right on the center of the goal line in the net.  Then have your
> friend skate around carrying the second puck on his/her stick you follow
> the puck and have your friend stop at a random point.  They leave the
> second puck where it stops, you don't move and they put the third puck
> exactly between your feet.  Then you step away and see if the three pucks
> are in a straight line, if they are you were lined up with the puck
> correctly!

Another neat thing to try is to get about 60-70 feet of rope, and tie one end
to the right post and the other end to the left.   You can then have a buddy
take the middle of the rope out on various angles, stretch it tight.  The area
between the ropes shows exactly where the puck can be shot and still be on the
net.  This also demonstrates the importance of playing further out of the
net - you can easily see how much less space you give the puck to get past you.


--
Jeff Wilson


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: mask painting
Date: 03 Jun 1996 20:28:24 -0400

In a message dated 96-06-03 16:00:54 EDT, you write:

>Hi all,
>Does anyone know a really good mask painter in Vancouver? If not then
>where would be a good place to send it for painting. I have some designs
>worked out already, just need a painter. BTW, thanks for all the info
>about Coreys mask from my other question!
>Thanks,
>Lisa
>
>

Lisa,

I bought my kids mask through Don Simmons Sports, and had it painted by the
fella they do business with. The artwork cost me $249 US, but worth every
penny. The job included 7 - 8  coats of clear lacquer on top of the artwork.
Looks AWESOME! You can reach Don Simmons Sports @ [phone], and I
imagine they can put you in touch with the guy. I HIGHLY recommend him.

Mike Hollis
Groton, CT


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From: Scott Battram <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Barrasso's Pads
Date: 03 Jun 1996 21:19:59 -0400 (EDT)

At 02:42 PM 03/06/96 -0800, you wrote:
>Scott-
>
>I believe that Tom Barrasso's pads are Sherwood pads. I had asked a friend
of mine about these pads some time ago, as the pads truly are unusual in
appearance (I've never seen a set like that here in California). She told me
that they were Sherwoods, not so uncommon in the northeast (perhaps from
when she was younger).
>
>If you look at pictures of Tom wearing them in games, you can make out a
large "S" on each of them. Neither Pete Smith, nor Aeroflex pads have such a
marking (or at least I have never noticed it; I could be wrong).
>
>Just a thought. Have a good day.
>
>Gary Baker
>
>

If they were Sherwood, the name would be on them, as they have gloves,
sticks... etc... and would have paid their endorsment fees to the NHL...

The S on them more than likely indicates they are SMITH, as he wouldnt have
paid the fees for endorsment therefor the name would have to be removed from
the product....

Scott Battram
"Owner - BATTRAM CUSTOM GOAL EQUIPMENT"
Woodstock, Ontario - CANADA
"Manufacturers of Custom Goal Equipment"

***BATTRAM CUSTOM GOAL EQUIPMENT WEB SITE:***
http://venus.execulink.com/~sbattram/index.htm


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From: CALDERON OLIVER <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: screen shots
Date: 03 Jun 1996 23:11:14 -0400

On Mon, 3 Jun 1996, Mike Foster wrote:

> I don't know whether to be happy or upset... On the one hand, I got my
> second honest win last night (three were from forfeits) in a hard-fought 2-1
> game. Why would I be upset? It could have been my first shutout! I stopped
> *every* puck I saw.... Problem being that there were a couple I didn't see,
> and one of those was in the net before I realized the guy had taken the
> shot. Is there anything a goalie can do to avoid being screened like that?
> (on the play in question, I had just yelled to my d-man that he was in my
> way, and he moved, but a winger from their team had just skated into my line
> of sight up by the left circle, and I never saw the point man let the shot
> go. By the time I saw the puck come around the winger, it was too late to
> move. The puck was in the net.)
>
> Mike
> Aww, hell with it... no reason to be upset. I played a hell of a game!
>
Damn right! and you won too, so that makes things even better. In regards
to screen shots, you pretty much have to do whatever it takes to see past
him. I usually go into a really low crouch and try to see between their
legs, or skate out on my angle right next to them if they're close
enough. From your question I'd say that he was probably pretty far
out...if he was closer (in the crease area), I'd treat him like a
potential tip in player and get right on him. I've seen some goalies get
off their angle in order to see around the screen, but I never did like
that idea, and I imagine you'd have to be pretty alert for any shots
going to the direction you cheatead away from.

-MOSSey
"Pain's Temporary - Glory's FOREVER"         | Oliver "Moss" Calderon
"Do not go gentle into that good night;      | [e-mail]
 Rage, rage against the dying of the light." |
 ENGINEERS RULE THE WORLD!!!!! UoT MMS 9T9   |


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From: "Mark J. Sonnier" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: screen shots
Date: 03 Jun 1996 19:45:18 -0800

At 11:11 PM 6/3/96 -0400, CALDERON OLIVER wrote:
>On Mon, 3 Jun 1996, Mike Foster wrote:
>
>> I don't know whether to be happy or upset... On the one hand, I got my
>> second honest win last night (three were from forfeits) in a hard-fought 2-1
>> game. Why would I be upset? It could have been my first shutout! I stopped
>> *every* puck I saw.... Problem being that there were a couple I didn't see,
>> and one of those was in the net before I realized the guy had taken the
>> shot. Is there anything a goalie can do to avoid being screened like that?
>> (on the play in question, I had just yelled to my d-man that he was in my
>> way, and he moved, but a winger from their team had just skated into my line
>> of sight up by the left circle, and I never saw the point man let the shot
>> go. By the time I saw the puck come around the winger, it was too late to
>> move. The puck was in the net.)
>>
>> Mike
>> Aww, hell with it... no reason to be upset. I played a hell of a game!
>>
>Damn right! and you won too, so that makes things even better. In regards
>to screen shots, you pretty much have to do whatever it takes to see past
>him. I usually go into a really low crouch and try to see between their
>legs, or skate out on my angle right next to them if they're close
>enough. From your question I'd say that he was probably pretty far
>out...if he was closer (in the crease area), I'd treat him like a
>potential tip in player and get right on him. I've seen some goalies get
>off their angle in order to see around the screen, but I never did like
>that idea, and I imagine you'd have to be pretty alert for any shots
>going to the direction you cheatead away from.

To see a great example of this technique put into practice, look no further
than the Blackhawks' Ed Belfour.  Here's a guy who contorts himself every
way imaginable in order to get a look at shots through screens.  (Sometimes
he reminds me of one of those dashboard football players with the bobbing
heads.)

Now if a guy with reflexes of his caliber wants to see shots before they get
to him, imagine how us mere mortals can benefit from a little neck craning.
Of course, with that outrageous stance of his, he'd look pretty dumb if he
let in a lazy looper through the five-hole... :)

Game on,
Mark Sonnier


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: replys
Date: 04 Jun 1996 17:52:06 +1000

Hi All,

In my recent game i had a shot and I felt it hit my chest so I curled up to
freeze it but then the other team started cheering after the whistle. I
turned around and there it was sitting in the goal!! Does anyone else have
these strange goals that you don't have a clue how they happened??  number 1
goalie who was on the bench said he saw it hit me and thought I had it as
well and it was one game that wasn't being taped so i couldn't go over it.
Oh well.......we were winning 8-1 still and ended up 11-1 so i wasn't too vexed.

In regard to inline skating- get some aggressive skate wheels like fat boys
or something; I'm not sure but I think they'd be faster then goalie wheels
but stilll are small and have that little bit less grip then normal wheels
and i think this gives it a bit more of an icy feel....and on a good surface
you can even do hockey stops!!!

One solution to not getting penalties for shooting over the boards is to
make it look like an accident. Look up the ice as you do it and look
surprised. As far as I've heard you only get penalized for deliberately
shoooting it out.

Whats the deal with penalties for a goalie??  Sometimes I hear someone else
takes it but ive heard other places and I think I've even seen it in a
college game (one of those rare occurences where hockey is on tv) the goalie
takes it himself.

seeya.....Paul


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From: Malcolm Preen <[e-mail]>
Subject: Goalie penalties (was Re: replys)
Date: 04 Jun 1996 09:41:23 +0100

[e-mail] wrote:
> Whats the deal with penalties for a goalie??  Sometimes I hear someone else
> takes it but ive heard other places and I think I've even seen it in a
> college game (one of those rare occurences where hockey is on tv) the goalie
> takes it himself.

As I understand it - MAJOR penalties (in IIHF rules they are almost all
5+GAME) are served by the goalie, ie he leaves the game, but MINOR
penalties, if goalie#1 went to the box and was replaced by goalie#2 then
when the penalty expired the team would have two goalies on the ice,
which is again illegal.

So, I guess its actually that anything which makes the goalie leave the
game is served by him and anything else is served by a team-mate.

Strangely, I've seen a 10 min misconduct given to a goalie, and he
stayed on the ice, and no-one sat it as its a personal penalty, so the
only affect was to add to the stats ! Seems odd.

Malcolm
--
Malcolm (summer '96 - 6-1-0 sav%89.52 GAA 3.71)
Goaltending is 90% mental and the other 10% is in your head


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From: Blake Wehlage <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Angles (was: far side shots
Date: 04 Jun 1996 06:28 EDT

At 07:19 PM 6/3/96 -0500, Jeff Wilson wrote:
>In a previous message, Sheri Bacon wrote:
>> On Mon, 3 Jun 1996, CALDERON OLIVER wrote:
>>
>> > you are concerned, though, I find it helpful to go over your angles with
>> > a friend every so often. Have him skate to a spot, line up, and get him
>> > to tell you if you're leaning to one side or the other.
>>
>> Another great way to check your angles with a friend is to have 3 pucks.
>> Put one right on the center of the goal line in the net.  Then have your
>> friend skate around carrying the second puck on his/her stick you follow
>> the puck and have your friend stop at a random point.  They leave the
>> second puck where it stops, you don't move and they put the third puck
>> exactly between your feet.  Then you step away and see if the three pucks
>> are in a straight line, if they are you were lined up with the puck
>> correctly!
>
>Another neat thing to try is to get about 60-70 feet of rope, and tie one end
>to the right post and the other end to the left.   You can then have a buddy
>take the middle of the rope out on various angles, stretch it tight.  The area
>between the ropes shows exactly where the puck can be shot and still be on the
>net.  This also demonstrates the importance of playing further out of the
>net - you can easily see how much less space you give the puck to get past you.
>
>
>--
>Jeff Wilson
>
>
>

The question is who has 60 -70 ft of rope in there hockey bag????
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Blake "Pokey" Wehlage     Gaa- 3.69
<[e-mail]>         Record- 2-4-4
Age- 13                   Final Standings- 2nd Place (Beat in Championship)

President & Founder:

Revolution Software       "I have the fastest glove in the east!"
Profanity Software        "Hackers never stop hacking they just get caught"
VSoft

My life- Rarely eat or sleep, Hack til' 7:00a, goto school, play goalie
til' 8:00p, hack til' 7:00a
Hank Aaron- d:-)!-<   Pope- +<:-)   Santa Claus- *<:-) The Unabrower |:-)

Current Girlfriend(s)- Lindsey Wilcox, Laura Schubring

Personal Quote- Mr Plow, thats my name, that name aguin is Mr. Plow
-Homer Simpson
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


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From: Blake Wehlage <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: replys
Date: 04 Jun 1996 06:51 EDT

At 05:52 PM 6/4/96 +1000, [e-mail] wrote:

>In regard to inline skating- get some aggressive skate wheels like fat boys
>or something; I'm not sure but I think they'd be faster then goalie wheels
>but stilll are small and have that little bit less grip then normal wheels
>and i think this gives it a bit more of an icy feel....and on a good surface
>you can even do hockey stops!!!

I still skate aggressive and play goalie in ice and roller, and the
measurements on the hyper fatboys are 72mm/82a they are to big to have you
low to the ground and the formulation (crap there made out of) is wierd so
you can't hockey stop with them. oh yea there not small.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Blake "Pokey" Wehlage     Gaa- 3.69
<[e-mail]>         Record- 2-4-4
Age- 13                   Final Standings- 2nd Place (Beat in Championship)

President & Founder:

Revolution Software       "I have the fastest glove in the east!"
Profanity Software        "Hackers never stop hacking they just get caught"
VSoft

My life- Rarely eat or sleep, Hack til' 7:00a, goto school, play goalie
til' 8:00p, hack til' 7:00a
Hank Aaron- d:-)!-<   Pope- +<:-)   Santa Claus- *<:-) The Unabrower |:-)

Current Girlfriend(s)- Lindsey Wilcox, Laura Schubring

Personal Quote- Mr Plow, thats my name, that name aguin is Mr. Plow
-Homer Simpson
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


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From: [e-mail] (Ron Sandler)
Subject: RE: Delay of game
Date: 04 Jun 1996 08:12:00 -0400

On Jun 03, 1996 10:47:22, 'Wolf <[e-mail]>' wrote:



>Actually I am confused as to why you would think that this would be a
>penalty... You are not going to get a penalty for this if there is a
offender
>coming at you, the goalie is allowed to freeze the puck when an offending

>player is bearing down on him!

USA hockey rules (as included in the Hockey North America rule book)
specify that it is a minor penalty for a goaltender to cover the puck with
his body or to close his hand over the puck unless some part of his body is
in contact with the crease.  Most officials will allow without thought any
such activity within the goaltenders protected area.

The protected area is defined as that area defined by a straight line
exteding from the center of the face off dot in the defending zone and
extending to the center of the opposite face off dot in the defending zone,
thence straight to the end boards, and continunity along tbe end boards
until the line meets a similar line beginning at the point of origin and
extending straight to the end boards.  In other words, a square from the
back boards out to the face off dot, over to the other dot and back down to
the boards.

Beyond this, the goaltender is to have no special privileges.

--

Ron Sandler
[e-mail]
3-3-0  3.67 GAA  Spring


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From: [e-mail] (Ron Sandler)
Subject: Re: mask painting
Date: 04 Jun 1996 08:30:33 -0400

My painter does all the work for Badger masks and does a real credible job.
 Hotbranch has photos and is going to scan them and Dave Strobridge is
going to eventually put thme on his web site.  His name is Chris Scalf and
he charges $175 US.  Number:

business:  810-685-0335
Home:      810 684-7382
--

Ron Sandler
[e-mail]
3-3-0  3.67 GAA  Spring


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From: [e-mail] (Mike Dockery)
Subject: wierd goals
Date: 04 Jun 1996 08:14:18 MDT

Paul wrote about wierd goals; here's mine:

In bantams, a breakaway rush towards me....a deke, a two-pad slide; twisted
behind and stopped the puck before it crossed the goal line....

The ref -  and everybody else - wrongly assumed it went in...  both teams
went to center ice for a goal face off!  I appealed to my coach, he
shrugged;.....  The best "non-save" I ever made.  My confidence in coaches
dropped off after that and I learned to trust ME first and take their advice
with a large grain of salt.......

Mike #95


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From: Kevin Scott <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: VAUGHN GEAR FOR SALE
Date: 04 Jun 1996 09:36:33 -0600 (MDT)

Very, Very Interested - Please hold this stuff 'till late wednesday
as I think I can buy the whole package.

Unless I decide to put my order in for some of your gear -

Thanks.  (I *am* serious and will get back to you by
Wednesday night - KCS.)

*******************************
Kevin C. Scott
Producer
The Omnisphere at the Coca-Cola Space Science Center
[e-mail]



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From: Darryl Ong <[e-mail]>
Subject: No bites yet...
Date: 04 Jun 1996 12:21:42 -0400 (EDT)


Hi everyone -

Still trying to sell those 34" Vaughn Reflex Goal Pads - black & white -
asking $400 obo. 1 year old.

-Darryl


Darryl Ong                    [e-mail]
Division of Otolaryngology            http://www.bme.jhu.edu/~djo
University of Maryland at Baltimore        [phone] voice
Baltimore, Maryland, USA            [phone] fax



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From: Scott Battram <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: wierd goals
Date: 04 Jun 1996 13:05:50 -0400 (EDT)

At 08:14 AM 04/06/96 MDT, you wrote:
>Paul wrote about wierd goals; here's mine:
>
>In bantams, a breakaway rush towards me....a deke, a two-pad slide; twisted
>behind and stopped the puck before it crossed the goal line....
>
>The ref -  and everybody else - wrongly assumed it went in...  both teams
>went to center ice for a goal face off!  I appealed to my coach, he
>shrugged;.....  The best "non-save" I ever made.  My confidence in coaches
>dropped off after that and I learned to trust ME first and take their advice
>with a large grain of salt.......
>
>Mike #95
>
>
>

Playing Jrn C. when I was about 16, a guy flipped the puck, I backed in as
your to try to get under it... but didnt, so... as supposed to, immediately
stopped moving.... the puck bounced off the cross bar, then off my back and
into the goal!

Scott Battram
"Owner - BATTRAM CUSTOM GOAL EQUIPMENT"
Woodstock, Ontario - CANADA
"Manufacturers of Custom Goal Equipment"

***BATTRAM CUSTOM GOAL EQUIPMENT WEB SITE:***
http://venus.execulink.com/~sbattram/index.htm


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From: CALDERON OLIVER <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: replys
Date: 04 Jun 1996 13:50:24 -0400

On Tue, 4 Jun 1996 [e-mail] wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> In my recent game i had a shot and I felt it hit my chest so I curled up to
> freeze it but then the other team started cheering after the whistle. I
> turned around and there it was sitting in the goal!! Does anyone else have
> these strange goals that you don't have a clue how they happened??  number 1
> goalie who was on the bench said he saw it hit me and thought I had it as
> well and it was one game that wasn't being taped so i couldn't go over it.
> Oh well.......we were winning 8-1 still and ended up 11-1 so i wasn't too vexed.
>
> seeya.....Paul
>
I used to get this kind of goal scored on me a lot, before I learned that
rebounds are controlled by a strange and unpredictable force which
doesn't seem to follow the lawas of normal physics. Even if you collapse
in front of a puck, you have to know exactly where it is. I've been hit
in the chest, collapsed inward to deaden it, and had it still roll up my
shoulder, or past my arm, or whatnot. Keep your eye on the puck -
otherwise it may end up behind the goal line.

-MOSSey
"Pain's Temporary - Glory's FOREVER"         | Oliver "Moss" Calderon
"Do not go gentle into that good night;      | [e-mail]
 Rage, rage against the dying of the light." |
 ENGINEERS RULE THE WORLD!!!!! UoT MMS 9T9   |


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From: [e-mail] (Ron Sandler)
Subject: Detroit area Rent a Goalie
Date: 04 Jun 1996 18:21:22 GMT

Better still - - -

Anyone around the Detroit, Ann Arbor, Flint, SCS, Trenton areas interested
in a Rent a Goalie program.  Could be tough to run, but could also get us a
lot of ice and a few bucks!
--

Ron Sandler
[e-mail]
3-3-0  3.67 GAA  Spring