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movies-digest       Thursday, September 23 1999       Volume 02 : Number 236



RE: [MV] Be fair to Blair.
[MV] Stir of Echos review
[MV] "AMERICAN BEAUTY" OPENS TO WIDESPREAD PRAISE
RE: [MV] Be fair to Blair.
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Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 11:50:00 -0700
From: ("David M Hoptman") <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [MV] Be fair to Blair.

You can't sit thru the "WHOLE ENTIRE" movie and get a refund.That's
absurd.Perhaps if you go to request a
refund if the movie is less than half-way thru,then one may get a refund.

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Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 19:37:00 -0400
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Man, if I had only realized that you could get a refund after sitting
through a bad movie I sure would have got one after sitting through
Armeggedon, Godzilla, Halloween H20, etc, etc.   In fact I may just start
asking for a refund after every movie I go to.  I didn't know you could do
this and actually get you're money back!  Alls you have to do is tell the
theater manager you didn't like the movie and you get your money back (or
even a free pass)??

Now that's cool!!!  I'll never have to pay for a movie again!!!

CHRIS

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Wade Snider wrote:
>
> But to nitpick, I think we've had the revenue versus quality discussion
> before. Maybe you think the movie is of exceptional quality, but I don't
> think its revenues are the judge of that. I wouldn't have thought you did
> either, but maybe you do? Maybe it's just supporting info then?




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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 00:25:41 -0700
From: "Movieman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [MV] Stir of Echos review

I had fairly low expectations walking into this flick as the reviews had
been pretty mixed.  Luckily I ended up on the pro side of the mix.  Thought
of by some to be a poor man's Sixth Sense - which may annoy some as this
movie also has a child who can see dead people (though the Sixth Sense kid
is a much better actor) - this movie definitely holds it's own.  Kevin Bacon
plays a fellow who becomes hyptnotized at a party - but after leaving he is
haunted by strange and unrelated images.  As the movie proceeds (at a
perfect pace) the puzzle begins to unfold though always out of Kevin's and
our reach.  Needless to say that the second act is as satisfying as the
first.  If you've got Sixth Sense on your brain and need some more - then go
see Sixth Sense again - but if you've still got an itchin' for some more
then you shouldn't be disappointed with Stir of Echos. I will rate it a 79%.

Here's Movieman's top 5 picks - if you only had $10 and you HAD to see a
flick then I would see:

Run Lola Run      96%
Deep Blue Sea     87%
13th Warrior      87%
The Sixth Sense   86%
Stir of Echos    79%

Movieman


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Date: Wed, 22 Sep 99 22:07:57 -0700
From: "David F. Nolan" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [MV] "AMERICAN BEAUTY" OPENS TO WIDESPREAD PRAISE

"AMERICAN BEAUTY" OPENS TO WIDESPREAD PRAISE

The Kevin Spacey / Annette Bening comedy AMERICAN BEAUTY (R)
opened in limited release last week to rave reviews, with many
viewers calling it the best film of 1999. It doesn't hit most cities
until October 1, but if you have a chance to catch it this weekend,
please give us your thoughts.

Other new releases include DOUBLE JEOPARDY (R) starring Ashley Judd
as a woman who is sent to jail for a murder and tries to find out
what really happened after she gets out. Tommy Lee Jones co-stars
in what has been described as a reprise of his character from THE
FUGITIVE.

And in a lighter vein there's MUMFORD (R), a slender comedy about
a man who moves to a small town, adopts its name, and dispenses
uninhibited advice to the locals while pretending to be a psychiatrist.

To tell the world what you think about these movies  -- or any other
current movie -- log onto the RATE A FLICK page at FlickPicks:
http://www.flickpicks.com

When you submit comments, please sign your name (at least your
first name) and give your age -- e.g. "Jim, 37".  This will help other
movie fans determine which movies are most likely to appeal to
them.

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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 06:02:11 -0400
From: Gene Ehrich <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [MV] Be fair to Blair.

At 11:50 AM 9/22/99 -0700, you wrote:
>You can't sit thru the "WHOLE ENTIRE" movie and get a refund.That's
>absurd.Perhaps if you go to request a
>refund if the movie is less than half-way thru,then one may get a refund.

You can if it is as bad as this. You sit through it expecting that there
will be something worthwhile in it but eventually it ends and you realize
that there was not a single thing in the movie worth a minute of your time.
You can when there is a line at the box office of others with the same demand.

This was the only movie I have ever asked for a refund from in any way at
all. It was just so terrible I felt I had been ripped off. Lots of others
in the theater that day agreed. They were all there in line with the same
demand. The theater manager understood because he gave us all free passes.
Said it had generated tremendous demand for refunds. Some left early,
others stayed till the end hoping that with all the hype there must be
something worthwhile. There wasn't.

Gene Ehrich

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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 06:10:40 -0400
From: Gene Ehrich <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] The Blair Witch Project - RIPOFF

At 08:14 AM 9/21/99 -0500, you wrote:
>Did anyone read Dave Barry's column this week? A very funny take on the
>Blair Witch Project. Ck. it at eh Miami Herald website....
>
>
>http://www.herald.com/content/archive/living/barry/1999/docs/sep19.htm

It was great. I particularly like this line from the article:

"I won't reveal the terrifying and shocking surprise ending of the movie,
because I don't want to spoil it, plus I have no idea what it is, since
it's not actually IN the movie."

Gene Ehrich

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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 08:25:43 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Nicole Rose)
Subject: [MV] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Ok I was wondering if anyone wants to talk about Alfred Hitchcock,
soomeone who I believe is one of the best film makers of our time. My
personal fav's are Phsyco and North By Northwest. Everyone tell me what
is your take on his films and his take on reality.

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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 08:29:34 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Nicole Rose)
Subject: Re: [MV] Be fair to Blair.

I just want to say that I agree completely with what Oz was saying in
regards to the Blair Witch thing. Also I agree with Wade when he said Oz
adds a lot to this list. I just joined and i must say i enjoy listening
to all your point of views. It gives me a different aspect to think of.

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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 22:52:36 -0700
From: Oz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] Critics.

Nicole Rose wrote:
>
> I just want to say that I agree completely with what Oz was saying in
> regards to the Blair Witch thing. Also I agree with Wade when he said Oz
> adds a lot to this list.

Good lord, I must be losing my touch. I'm not used to all this
agreement! :)

A question for all, that stems from my earlier Blair comments. Do
any of you actively check a certain critic's reviews before you
decide which movies to see? If so, which critic/s?

I used to be almost always in agreement with Roger Ebert until about
the time he gave Speed 2 a thumb up, but for some reason he drifted
into a weird zone where I now disagree with almost everything he
says. I'm lost without an American critic to respect and believe.

Any suggestions for a replacement?

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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 15:17:39 +0100
From: MARK <[e-mail]>
Subject: [MV] George C. Scott - he deed

Just got this from "Aint-it-Cool", sad!

I know everyone has their own memories of actors, of certain roles,
certain moments, and as George C. Scott shuffles off this mortal coil,
film fans the world over are no doubt remembering any of a dozen
indelible film images involving that great, blusterly force of nature.
For me, I flash on the searing brilliance of that classic, iconic
addressing of the troops in PATTON, but I also flash just as quickly on
his hysterically, endearingly, howlingly awful EXORCIST 3 work. I loved
George C. Scott for both ends of the extreme. I never once held a
FIRESTARTER against him. How could I? He was magnificent when surrounded
by mediocrity.
There is one character, though, that will always live largest in my
heart when I think of Scott. I love him beyond words in his portrayal of
Gen. Buck Turgidson in DR. STRANGELOVE. When I hit "send" on this
e-mail, I plan to walk into the viewing chamber of The Labs, put in my
DVD of STRANGELOVE, and bask in a full handful of the finest comedic
performances ever committed to film. Scott stands tall opposite Peter
Sellers at his absolute finest, and even Sterling Hayden and Slim
Pickens can't blow Scott off the screen. It's something no one could do.
George C. Scott was 71.

MARK



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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 99 06:28:42 -0700
From: "David F. Nolan" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] Critics.

Oz wrote:
>I used to be almost always in agreement with Roger Ebert until about
>the time he gave Speed 2 a thumb up, but for some reason he drifted
>into a weird zone where I now disagree with almost everything he
>says. I'm lost without an American critic to respect and believe.

IMHO, Roger is little more than a shill for Disney these days. He almost
goes "thumbs up" on everything that any division of the Eisner Empire
dumps on us. Beyond that, he's unpredictable.

A couple of times recently he's had a woman from Boston on his TV show
with him, who's made very cogent comments. Her name is Joyce, I think;
last name begins with "K."  Unfortunately, I don't know where you can
read or hear her reviews outside Boston; I live in California.

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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 08:32:03 -0500
From: "Durham, Lisa" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [MV] George C. Scott - he deed

I just heard this on the radio, too.
They had a portion of an old interview asking him his favorite roles.  And
he said the general in
DR STRANGELOVE & his portrayal of Shylock.
Just thought I would pass this on.
We will miss him.

   Lisa D

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> From:    MARK [SMTP:[e-mail]]
> Sent:    Thursday, September 23, 1999 9:18 AM
> To:    [e-mail]
> Subject:    [MV] George C. Scott - he deed
>
>
> Just got this from "Aint-it-Cool", sad!
>
> I know everyone has their own memories of actors, of certain roles,
> certain moments, and as George C. Scott shuffles off this mortal coil,
> film fans the world over are no doubt remembering any of a dozen
> indelible film images involving that great, blusterly force of nature.
> For me, I flash on the searing brilliance of that classic, iconic
> addressing of the troops in PATTON, but I also flash just as quickly on
> his hysterically, endearingly, howlingly awful EXORCIST 3 work. I loved
> George C. Scott for both ends of the extreme. I never once held a
> FIRESTARTER against him. How could I? He was magnificent when surrounded
> by mediocrity.
> There is one character, though, that will always live largest in my
> heart when I think of Scott. I love him beyond words in his portrayal of
> Gen. Buck Turgidson in DR. STRANGELOVE. When I hit "send" on this
> e-mail, I plan to walk into the viewing chamber of The Labs, put in my
> DVD of STRANGELOVE, and bask in a full handful of the finest comedic
> performances ever committed to film. Scott stands tall opposite Peter
> Sellers at his absolute finest, and even Sterling Hayden and Slim
> Pickens can't blow Scott off the screen. It's something no one could do.
> George C. Scott was 71.
>
> MARK
>
>
>
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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 08:35:11 CDT
From: "Wade Snider" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] Critics.

That is the funniest thing. I used to think about the same thing about
Ebert, until the exact same point, and now I don't trust him as much as I
used to either. Not only did he give a thumbs up to Speed 2, he consistently
defends the movie on numerous occasions. I do still read him, but I don't
much care what he says anymore as I tend to disagree with him constantly,
too. His reviews are very intelligent and well written though, which serves
to boggle my mind. Babe 2 was his favorite flick of last year, i believe.
ouch. but, he is always a fan of strange and unusual, and if he sees
something he has never seen before or if he is genuinely surprised by a
twist, then he loves the movie. Eh.

I don't know of a good American critic. i guess it's hard to find one that
consistently agrees with what you think. I do like Michael Medved, but i
never know where to catch him. He used to have a Siskel-Ebert format of show
on PBS called Sneak Previews, but he hasn't done that in a while I think.

i have no good consistent critics now. i just read a bunch of different ones
or read nothing. Rotten tomatoes usually has a good index of reviews...


>
>A question for all, that stems from my earlier Blair comments. Do
>any of you actively check a certain critic's reviews before you
>decide which movies to see? If so, which critic/s?
>
>I used to be almost always in agreement with Roger Ebert until about
>the time he gave Speed 2 a thumb up, but for some reason he drifted
>into a weird zone where I now disagree with almost everything he
>says. I'm lost without an American critic to respect and believe.
>
>Any suggestions for a replacement?
>

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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 99 06:39:30 -0700
From: "David F. Nolan" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] Hitchcock

Nicole Rose wrote:
>Ok I was wondering if anyone wants to talk about Alfred Hitchcock,
>soomeone who I believe is one of the best film makers of our time. My
>personal fav's are Phsyco and North By Northwest. Everyone tell me what
>is your take on his films and his take on reality.

I agree, Hitchcock was great.... way better than most of the directors
working today.  Of course, he was a kind of a nut-case (read a bio!) but
still great.  I personally think VERTIGO is not only his best film, but
in some ways the best movie ever. It's the most perfectly constructed
movie I've ever seen (out of hundreds) and the photography, acting and
music (Bernard Hermann) are great too.  I would urge anyone who hasn't
seen it to rent a copy, or see it in a theater next time it comes around
again.

PSYCHO and N by NW are also fine movies.  REAR WINDOW is now a bit dated
- - I hear a remake is planned - and was the subject of a great send-up on
"The Simpsons" a few years back.  THE BIRDS was strange, as I remember
it. Not too believable, but scary in a dopey sort of way.

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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 23:49:15 -0700
From: Oz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] Hitchcock

"David F. Nolan" wrote:
>
> I agree, Hitchcock was great.... way better than most of the directors
> working today.  Of course, he was a kind of a nut-case (read a bio!)

My favourite Hitchcock tale is of hs initiation for new
crew-members. I'm told he would bet them they wouldn't have the
nerve to stay in a darkened soundstage, chained to a big old TV
camera overnight. Of course, nobody refuses Hitch, so they'd take up
the challenge and he'd leave them with a nice big flask of something
to drink during the night. A flask infused with coffee and
laxatives.
It seems when he would return next day, Hitchcock would have a
handheld camera with him to record the alarm and panic on the face
of the poor chained, terrified soul... sitting in his own excrement.

Helluvaguy. And as tacky as it is, I can't go past The Birds as my
fave Hitch. Vertigo is brilliance, but The Birds is hellacious fun.

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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 23:50:32 -0700
From: Oz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] Critics.

"David F. Nolan" wrote:
>
> IMHO, Roger is little more than a shill for Disney these days. He almost
> goes "thumbs up" on everything that any division of the Eisner Empire
> dumps on us. Beyond that, he's unpredictable.

I hear that. I know a former PA for his show who got sacked after
she made a joke about 'being nice to Buena Vista'. Seems Rog is a
little testy about such inferences, but it sure seems the way things
are.
And what the hell was with giving The Haunting a thumb up? Ay
carumba!

> A couple of times recently he's had a woman from Boston on his TV show
> with him, who's made very cogent comments. Her name is Joyce, I think;
> last name begins with "K."  Unfortunately, I don't know where you can
> read or hear her reviews outside Boston; I live in California.

That'd be Joyce Kellawick. I lived in Boston for a while and recall
she didn't stink. But I also recall she was no Pauline Kael. But
then, who is?

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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 09:15:17 CDT
From: "Wade Snider" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] Hitchcock

Hahaha. I think I heard that story recently. Funny. He was a character. I
heard Melanie Griffith tell a story about how when she was on the set of
some movie when a little girl (her mother is Tippie Hedren for those who
don't know), Hitchcock gave her a gift, and when she opened it, it was a
tiny coffin with a little doll that looked like her mother inside it.
Another story from Peter Bogdanovich involved how he and Hitchcock were got
in an elevator full of people, and Hitchock started telling this macabre
story to Bogdanovich in a very suspenseful manner; basically he worded a
story that climaxed when the elevator hit the bottom floor, and when the
elevator hit the bottom floor, no one else in the elevator would get out!
And, hitchcock clammed up and didn't finished the story right as it built to
a climax! when the elevator finally emptied, Bogdanovich asked him about the
end of the story, and Hitchock told him there wasn't one; he had just made
everything up to get a rise out of the people on the elevator.

There was an excellent documentary on Hitchcock last month on Encore, called
Dial H for Hitchcock or something. Very good and detailed some of his
oddities and personality but mostly discussed his filmography and his over
all style and contribution to movies in general.

My fav of his is Rear Window. I absolutely love that flick. But, I always
crack up at Cary Grant's character in North by Northwest, most pointedly the
scene in the Auction house.


>"David F. Nolan" wrote:
> >
> > I agree, Hitchcock was great.... way better than most of the directors
> > working today.  Of course, he was a kind of a nut-case (read a bio!)
>
>My favourite Hitchcock tale is of hs initiation for new
>crew-members. I'm told he would bet them they wouldn't have the
>nerve to stay in a darkened soundstage, chained to a big old TV
>camera overnight. Of course, nobody refuses Hitch, so they'd take up
>the challenge and he'd leave them with a nice big flask of something
>to drink during the night. A flask infused with coffee and
>laxatives.
>It seems when he would return next day, Hitchcock would have a
>handheld camera with him to record the alarm and panic on the face
>of the poor chained, terrified soul... sitting in his own excrement.
>
>Helluvaguy. And as tacky as it is, I can't go past The Birds as my
>fave Hitch. Vertigo is brilliance, but The Birds is hellacious fun.
>
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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 12:11:44 -0500
From: "Durham, Lisa" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [MV] George C. Scott - he deed

 Just read that  THE THIRD MAN has been reissured in a restored print to
commemorate the 50th anniversary
 It starts here (DALLAS) tomorrow for an exclusive engagement.
 Hopefully, this is happening around the country so that all of you can go.

> -----Original Message-----
> From:    MARK [SMTP:[e-mail]]
> Sent:    Thursday, September 23, 1999 9:18 AM
> To:    [e-mail]
> Subject:    [MV] George C. Scott - he deed
>
>
> Just got this from "Aint-it-Cool", sad!
>
> I know everyone has their own memories of actors, of certain roles,
> certain moments, and as George C. Scott shuffles off this mortal coil,
> film fans the world over are no doubt remembering any of a dozen
> indelible film images involving that great, blusterly force of nature.
> For me, I flash on the searing brilliance of that classic, iconic
> addressing of the troops in PATTON, but I also flash just as quickly on
> his hysterically, endearingly, howlingly awful EXORCIST 3 work. I loved
> George C. Scott for both ends of the extreme. I never once held a
> FIRESTARTER against him. How could I? He was magnificent when surrounded
> by mediocrity.
> There is one character, though, that will always live largest in my
> heart when I think of Scott. I love him beyond words in his portrayal of
> Gen. Buck Turgidson in DR. STRANGELOVE. When I hit "send" on this
> e-mail, I plan to walk into the viewing chamber of The Labs, put in my
> DVD of STRANGELOVE, and bask in a full handful of the finest comedic
> performances ever committed to film. Scott stands tall opposite Peter
> Sellers at his absolute finest, and even Sterling Hayden and Slim
> Pickens can't blow Scott off the screen. It's something no one could do.
> George C. Scott was 71.
>
> MARK
>
>
>
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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 13:16:04 CDT
From: "Wade Snider" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [MV] George C. Scott - he deed

I wonder what, pray tell, that has to with the thread of Scott's death....


>From: "Durham, Lisa" <[e-mail]>
>Reply-To: [e-mail]
>To: "'[e-mail]'" <[e-mail]>
>Subject: RE: [MV] George C. Scott - he deed
>Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 12:11:44 -0500
>
>  Just read that  THE THIRD MAN has been reissured in a restored print to
>commemorate the 50th anniversary
>  It starts here (DALLAS) tomorrow for an exclusive engagement.
>  Hopefully, this is happening around the country so that all of you can
>go.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:    MARK [SMTP:[e-mail]]
> > Sent:    Thursday, September 23, 1999 9:18 AM
> > To:    [e-mail]
> > Subject:    [MV] George C. Scott - he deed
> >
> >
> > Just got this from "Aint-it-Cool", sad!
> >
> > I know everyone has their own memories of actors, of certain roles,
> > certain moments, and as George C. Scott shuffles off this mortal coil,
> > film fans the world over are no doubt remembering any of a dozen
> > indelible film images involving that great, blusterly force of nature.
> > For me, I flash on the searing brilliance of that classic, iconic
> > addressing of the troops in PATTON, but I also flash just as quickly on
> > his hysterically, endearingly, howlingly awful EXORCIST 3 work. I loved
> > George C. Scott for both ends of the extreme. I never once held a
> > FIRESTARTER against him. How could I? He was magnificent when surrounded
> > by mediocrity.
> > There is one character, though, that will always live largest in my
> > heart when I think of Scott. I love him beyond words in his portrayal of
> > Gen. Buck Turgidson in DR. STRANGELOVE. When I hit "send" on this
> > e-mail, I plan to walk into the viewing chamber of The Labs, put in my
> > DVD of STRANGELOVE, and bask in a full handful of the finest comedic
> > performances ever committed to film. Scott stands tall opposite Peter
> > Sellers at his absolute finest, and even Sterling Hayden and Slim
> > Pickens can't blow Scott off the screen. It's something no one could do.
> > George C. Scott was 71.
> >
> > MARK
> >
> >
> >
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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 13:41:24 -0600
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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 13:48:52 -0500
From: "Durham, Lisa" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [MV] George C. Scott - he deed

nothing, I just thought someone might be interested.
I just didn't feel like starting a new e-mail, is that ok????
  Sorry!

> -----Original Message-----
> From:    Wade Snider [SMTP:[e-mail]]
> Sent:    Thursday, September 23, 1999 1:16 PM
> To:    [e-mail]
> Subject:    RE: [MV] George C. Scott - he deed
>
> I wonder what, pray tell, that has to with the thread of Scott's death....
>
>
> >From: "Durham, Lisa" <[e-mail]>
> >Reply-To: [e-mail]
> >To: "'[e-mail]'" <[e-mail]>
> >Subject: RE: [MV] George C. Scott - he deed
> >Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 12:11:44 -0500
> >
> >  Just read that  THE THIRD MAN has been reissured in a restored print to
> >commemorate the 50th anniversary
> >  It starts here (DALLAS) tomorrow for an exclusive engagement.
> >  Hopefully, this is happening around the country so that all of you can
> >go.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From:    MARK [SMTP:[e-mail]]
> > > Sent:    Thursday, September 23, 1999 9:18 AM
> > > To:    [e-mail]
> > > Subject:    [MV] George C. Scott - he deed
> > >
> > >
> > > Just got this from "Aint-it-Cool", sad!
> > >
> > > I know everyone has their own memories of actors, of certain roles,
> > > certain moments, and as George C. Scott shuffles off this mortal coil,
> > > film fans the world over are no doubt remembering any of a dozen
> > > indelible film images involving that great, blusterly force of nature.
> > > For me, I flash on the searing brilliance of that classic, iconic
> > > addressing of the troops in PATTON, but I also flash just as quickly
> on
> > > his hysterically, endearingly, howlingly awful EXORCIST 3 work. I
> loved
> > > George C. Scott for both ends of the extreme. I never once held a
> > > FIRESTARTER against him. How could I? He was magnificent when
> surrounded
> > > by mediocrity.
> > > There is one character, though, that will always live largest in my
> > > heart when I think of Scott. I love him beyond words in his portrayal
> of
> > > Gen. Buck Turgidson in DR. STRANGELOVE. When I hit "send" on this
> > > e-mail, I plan to walk into the viewing chamber of The Labs, put in my
> > > DVD of STRANGELOVE, and bask in a full handful of the finest comedic
> > > performances ever committed to film. Scott stands tall opposite Peter
> > > Sellers at his absolute finest, and even Sterling Hayden and Slim
> > > Pickens can't blow Scott off the screen. It's something no one could
> do.
> > > George C. Scott was 71.
> > >
> > > MARK
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 15:08:23 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Nicole Rose)
Subject: Re: [MV] Hitchcock

I saw that documentary and it was called Dial-H for hitchcock. It was
great and answered lots of my questions that i have about hitch. I
haven't seen Vertigo yet but i never really enjoyed the birds. It's a
great movie and all but not as suspensful, and it was kind of
disappointing to me. I suppose in its time, like most movies it was
better, before you've seen all the media hype and blockbuster crap.

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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 15:12:05 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Nicole Rose)
Subject: [MV] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

ok so now that i know you all agree on Hitchcick, what do you think of
Shawshank Redemption or basically any Kevin Spacey movies(nothing to do
w/ each other)? I have liked all movies w/ Kevin but i'm not sure when
his new one is coming out in Canada. Any of you know?

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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 15:24:13 -0400
From: Mel Eperthener <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] Critics.

At 08.35 AM 23/09/1999 CDT, Wade Snider wrote:
> Not only did he give a thumbs up to Speed 2, he consistently
>defends the movie on numerous occasions.

Broke my heart, that.

 I do still read him, but I don't
>much care what he says anymore as I tend to disagree with him constantly,
>too.

Friend of mine had/has an interesting idea.  He goes to see whatever the
critics hate, and avoids anything they love.  Oftimes, it has served him well.


>I don't know of a good American critic. i guess it's hard to find one that
>consistently agrees with what you think. I do like Michael Medved, but i
>never know where to catch him. He used to have a Siskel-Ebert format of show
>on PBS called Sneak Previews, but he hasn't done that in a while I think.

This was the original Siskel and Ebert show, back before they sold out to
Uncle Walt.


You might be better off just reading a bunch of reviews, and seeing which
way they are skewering towards.  Or else, as I have been doing more and
more lately, see what is well-received on this here list.

One of my favourite reviewers currently is MovieJuice.

Regards,

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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 17:18:14 -0400
From: Enrique Bird <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [MV] Critics.

Oz,

I personally like Leonard Maltin. I agree with him often and can usually
figure out if I might like a movie he doesn't. For instance, he is
indifferent to Forrest Gump, which I liked a lot.

Enrique Bird

> -----Original Message-----
> From:    Oz [SMTP:[e-mail]]
> Sent:    Friday, September 24, 1999 1:53 AM
> To:    [e-mail]
> Subject:    Re: [MV] Critics.
>
> Nicole Rose wrote:
> >
> > I just want to say that I agree completely with what Oz was saying in
> > regards to the Blair Witch thing. Also I agree with Wade when he said Oz
> > adds a lot to this list.
>
> Good lord, I must be losing my touch. I'm not used to all this
> agreement! :)
>
> A question for all, that stems from my earlier Blair comments. Do
> any of you actively check a certain critic's reviews before you
> decide which movies to see? If so, which critic/s?
>
> I used to be almost always in agreement with Roger Ebert until about
> the time he gave Speed 2 a thumb up, but for some reason he drifted
> into a weird zone where I now disagree with almost everything he
> says. I'm lost without an American critic to respect and believe.
>
> Any suggestions for a replacement?
>
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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 17:20:34 -0400
From: Enrique Bird <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [MV] Critics.

Oz,

Should be "caramba", not "carumba"!

Are you sure he was not talking about the original The Haunting movie?!

Enrique Bird

> -----Original Message-----
> From:    Oz [SMTP:[e-mail]]
> Sent:    Friday, September 24, 1999 2:51 AM
> To:    [e-mail]
> Subject:    Re: [MV] Critics.
>
> "David F. Nolan" wrote:
> >
> > IMHO, Roger is little more than a shill for Disney these days. He almost
> > goes "thumbs up" on everything that any division of the Eisner Empire
> > dumps on us. Beyond that, he's unpredictable.
>
> I hear that. I know a former PA for his show who got sacked after
> she made a joke about 'being nice to Buena Vista'. Seems Rog is a
> little testy about such inferences, but it sure seems the way things
> are.
> And what the hell was with giving The Haunting a thumb up? Ay
> carumba!
>
> > A couple of times recently he's had a woman from Boston on his TV show
> > with him, who's made very cogent comments. Her name is Joyce, I think;
> > last name begins with "K."  Unfortunately, I don't know where you can
> > read or hear her reviews outside Boston; I live in California.
>
> That'd be Joyce Kellawick. I lived in Boston for a while and recall
> she didn't stink. But I also recall she was no Pauline Kael. But
> then, who is?
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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 17:40:18 -0400
From: Enrique Bird <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [MV] Hitchcock

Friends,

I personally love Rebecca, the #2 movie in my rankings.

Dissenting from most critics, I find the 1950s The Man Who Knew Too =
Much a
much more entertaining movie that the 1930s, which, to me, seems dated =
and
quaint. I just love Doris Day's rendition of Que Ser=E1, Ser=E1. It is, =
with the
singing of La Marseillaiese in Casablanca one of my all time favorite
musical moments in a non-musical. And the closing, very short scene =
back in
the apartment is just a joy!

Another personal favorite going against the grain is I Confess . I =
believe
that you have to be or have been a devout, knowledgeable Catholic to =
fully
appreciate the point about the confessional seal. This I was, educated =
in a
Catholic school by Catholic nuns and being from a strict Catholic =
family. An
altar boy in the early 1960s, I could recite the Mass in Latin and, =
later,
in Spanish. Ironically, after over 7 years as an atheist/agnostic, I =
became
an Evangelical! But I still remember a lot about real, not nominal,
Catholicism. And am a lone wolf in my family.

Torn Curtain is, of all Hitchcock movies I have watched, the biggest
dissapointment. It should have been good if not great. My take on it? =
The
director was bored by the conventional spy/foreign intrigue plot.

A word of advice to readers of movie critics: remember that most =
"mediocre"
Hitchcock films are still much better than other directors' good films!

Incidentally, I am in and from San Juan, PR, male, and 49 years old. =
This to
explain my Catholic and Spanish language backgrounds.

Enrique Bird

> -----Original Message-----
> From:    David F. Nolan [SMTP:[e-mail]]
> Sent:    Thursday, September 23, 1999 9:40 AM
> To:    [e-mail]
> Subject:    Re: [MV] Hitchcock
>=20
> Nicole Rose wrote:
> >Ok I was wondering if anyone wants to talk about Alfred Hitchcock,=20
> >soomeone who I believe is one of the best film makers of our time. =
My=20
> >personal fav's are Phsyco and North By Northwest. Everyone tell me =
what=20
> >is your take on his films and his take on reality.=20
>=20
> I agree, Hitchcock was great.... way better than most of the =
directors=20
> working today.  Of course, he was a kind of a nut-case (read a bio!) =
but=20
> still great.  I personally think VERTIGO is not only his best film, =
but=20
> in some ways the best movie ever. It's the most perfectly constructed =

> movie I've ever seen (out of hundreds) and the photography, acting =
and=20
> music (Bernard Hermann) are great too.  I would urge anyone who =
hasn't=20
> seen it to rent a copy, or see it in a theater next time it comes =
around=20
> again.
>=20
> PSYCHO and N by NW are also fine movies.  REAR WINDOW is now a bit =
dated=20
> - I hear a remake is planned - and was the subject of a great send-up =
on=20
> "The Simpsons" a few years back.  THE BIRDS was strange, as I =
remember=20
> it. Not too believable, but scary in a dopey sort of way.
>=20
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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 14:51:00 -0700
From: ("David M Hoptman") <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] Hitchcock

I never was a big fan of the Hitchcock films.The only ones I've seen are
Psycho and The Birds.I used to
absolutely love the TV series of Alfred Hitchcock presents.That was really a
great show w/all the twist
endings.---Dave

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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 99 06:39:30 -0700
To: [e-mail]
From: David.F.Nolan[DFN]@alum.mit.edu
Sender: [e-mail]
Reply-To: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: [MV] Hitchcock

Nicole Rose wrote:
>Ok I was wondering if anyone wants to talk about Alfred Hitchcock,
>soomeone who I believe is one of the best film makers of our time. My
>personal fav's are Phsyco and North By Northwest. Everyone tell me what
>is your take on his films and his take on reality.

I agree, Hitchcock was great.... way better than most of the directors
working today.  Of course, he was a kind of a nut-case (read a bio!) but
still great.  I personally think VERTIGO is not only his best film, but
in some ways the best movie ever. It's the most perfectly constructed
movie I've ever seen (out of hundreds) and the photography, acting and
music (Bernard Hermann) are great too.  I would urge anyone who hasn't
seen it to rent a copy, or see it in a theater next time it comes around
again.

PSYCHO and N by NW are also fine movies.  REAR WINDOW is now a bit dated
- - I hear a remake is planned - and was the subject of a great send-up on
"The Simpsons" a few years back.  THE BIRDS was strange, as I remember
it. Not too believable, but scary in a dopey sort of way.

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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 14:55:00 -0700
From: ("David M Hoptman") <[e-mail]>
Subject: [MV] The Green Mile

I saw the greatest movie last night.
In LA,I often get advanced screening passes to movies that won't be released
in thatres till several months
later.I saw "The Green Mile," based on the Stephen King novels.It starred Tom
Hanks as a prison guard on
death row at a Louisiana Jail.It was also directed by the same dude who made
"The Shawshank Redemption,"
another fine film adapted from a Stephen King book."The Green Mile" is a
superb piece of work which I have
no doubt will be nominated for some Acadamy Awards hopefully including Best
Picture.---Dave


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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 15:09:00 -0700
From: ("David M Hoptman") <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [MV] George C. Scott - he deed

Wasn't George C. Scott in "Ray Bradbury's The Illustrated Man?"---Dave


- ------------------( Forwarded letter 1 follows )--------------------
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 08:32:03 -0500
To: [e-mail]
From: [e-mail]
Sender: [e-mail]
Reply-To: [e-mail]
Subject: RE: [MV] George C. Scott - he deed

I just heard this on the radio, too.
They had a portion of an old interview asking him his favorite roles.  And
he said the general in
DR STRANGELOVE & his portrayal of Shylock.
Just thought I would pass this on.
We will miss him.

   Lisa D

> -----Original Message-----
> From:    MARK [SMTP:[e-mail]]
> Sent:    Thursday, September 23, 1999 9:18 AM
> To:    [e-mail]
> Subject:    [MV] George C. Scott - he deed
>
>
> Just got this from "Aint-it-Cool", sad!
>
> I know everyone has their own memories of actors, of certain roles,
> certain moments, and as George C. Scott shuffles off this mortal coil,
> film fans the world over are no doubt remembering any of a dozen
> indelible film images involving that great, blusterly force of nature.
> For me, I flash on the searing brilliance of that classic, iconic
> addressing of the troops in PATTON, but I also flash just as quickly on
> his hysterically, endearingly, howlingly awful EXORCIST 3 work. I loved
> George C. Scott for both ends of the extreme. I never once held a
> FIRESTARTER against him. How could I? He was magnificent when surrounded
> by mediocrity.
> There is one character, though, that will always live largest in my
> heart when I think of Scott. I love him beyond words in his portrayal of
> Gen. Buck Turgidson in DR. STRANGELOVE. When I hit "send" on this
> e-mail, I plan to walk into the viewing chamber of The Labs, put in my
> DVD of STRANGELOVE, and bask in a full handful of the finest comedic
> performances ever committed to film. Scott stands tall opposite Peter
> Sellers at his absolute finest, and even Sterling Hayden and Slim
> Pickens can't blow Scott off the screen. It's something no one could do.
> George C. Scott was 71.
>
> MARK
>
>
>
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