>> My roommate was ranting for days about the stupidity of anybody daring to
>> point out the media as a possible cause for the tragedy in Colorado while
>> I
>> sat there and wondered if possibly it could have contributed. All I know
>> is
>> suddenly a bunch of suburban white kids around the country have suddenly
>> decided to use their classmates as target practice and I really wish I
>> could
>> understand why they are doing it now.
>>
>>
> I wonder as we all do. I find it interesting to note that this kind
> of shooting rampage is not new. Just 40 miles from here is where a guy drove
> his pickup into a Lubys window and randomly killed 21 or 22 people, 8 years
> ago. Then there were the shootings at fast food restaurants in California
> and elsewhere, and even some of those at various post office locations,
> throughout the 80s. These things have happened on and off for years, but it
> seems like it's only been the past couple of years that the primary culprit
> has been teenagers.
>
>
>> Having said that, I have always loved action and horror flicks and am
>> probably one of the biggest pacifist on the block. What is different
>> from
>> 20 years ago?
>>
>> bb
>>
> I don't think there is any real difference, except that computer
> graphics and better technology may make what seemed cheap 20 years ago
> somewhat more realistic. But, that is really not that much of a difference
> in how it will affect you, if it does. I remember that a lot of action
> flicks in the 60s-70s were very violent or scary, and it didn't seem
> tremendously fake. Some of them: Freebie and the Bean, Dirty Harry, Bonnie &
> Clyde, The French Connection, Alien, Halloween, Clockwork Orange, the Wild
> Bunch, Badlands, and so on. Violence in movies is nothing new, and a lot of
> older action movies are much more affecting because violence is used such
> that the sociological or psychological implications are much more intense.
> Today, the violence is much more senseless. Maybe that's the key. Anyway, I
> don't think movies are that much more violent than they've ever been, it's
> simply that the special effects are better at exhibiting gore and death and
> parents are less dilligent about keeping their kids from watching such
> movies.
>
> Wade
>
>
>
>
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Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 07:57:09 +0000 (GMT)
From: magicpatrick@youpy.fr
Subject: Re : [MV] media
I think it is a very interesting topic even if some of you see here an outburst. I can say that movies are not in question and I'll prove it like this ; In France we got the same movies and some of our directors made controversial movies like Nikita or The Professional (BESSON), and we never had, fortunately, a tragedy comparable with Colorado. I think that is a question of upbringing. In your country, it is so easy to get a weapon that anyone who wants one can find it even young persons. Remember, they killed (Colorado) with guns and not with knives !! I think that weapons is a problem that your government should erase as quick as possible.
USA is the most powerful "media" in the world and I am afraid that Colorado gives idea to some mad guys in here.
Finally, don't think I am lecturing you 'cause I am French, it may happens soon in France and it would be as tragic as in Colorado.
Till next time,
Take care of yourself and eachother,
Patrick
>I thought we were talking about movies. This is a hot topic that could
>affect all movie lovers. It seems that its a perfect topic for discussion.
>This list has always been a forum for discussions that go beyond simply
>describing our favorite flicks. That is unless things have changed.
