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movies-digest         Thursday, July 22 1999         Volume 02 : Number 212



Re: [MV] Just saw Eyes Wide Shut...& a ditty on nudity
Re: [MV] Just saw Eyes Wide Shut...& a ditty on nudity
Re: [MV] Rushmore
RE: [MV] a ditty on nudity
RE: [MV] a ditty on nudity and orgazmo
RE: [MV] a ditty on nudity and orgazmo
RE: [MV] a ditty on nudity and orgazmo
RE: [MV] Doing Da Butt
Re: [MV] Rushmore
Re: [MV] a ditty on nudity
Re: [MV] Doing Da Butt
RE: [MV] Rushmore
Re: [MV] Re: Rushmore
Re: [MV] Rushmore
RE: [MV] Rushmore
[MV] RE: Enough with Rod
Re: [MV] RE: Enough with Rod
[MV] Movie News - 07/21/99
[MV] Samuel L Jackson
Re: [MV] Samuel L Jackson
[MV] Bob Roberts
RE: [MV] Bob Roberts
RE: [MV] Samuel L Jackson

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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 12:22:22 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: [MV] Just saw Eyes Wide Shut...& a ditty on nudity

Yeah, buy Cruise was deep into character very often. Didn't he say he was
getting stress headaches or something, from just trying to contain the
character's emotions? I think that the repetition was written for the
character, and since Cruise was in character for 2 years, it must have stuck
with him a bit.

~Matt

<< i also noticed that cruise's character repeated many things,
but then i noticed that cruise himself was doing this in a lengthy
interview on entertainment tonight.  so either this is a characteristic of
cruise that he took to the character in the film, it is a characteristic of
the character in the film that stuck with cruise, or cruise was kind of
"mocking" the character in the interview (unlikely, considering how much
he's said he enjoyed working on the film, with Kubrick, etc)>>

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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 12:16:54 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: [MV] Just saw Eyes Wide Shut...& a ditty on nudity

Well, it all depends. Take Titanic. I personally didn't love the movie, it
was good, not great, a far, far cry from excellent. But the nudity was done
"tastefully." Nothing explicit, or vulgar. Then take a movie like, say, Wild
Things. A bad movie to start with, and the nudity did nothing to help it. It
was pointless and tasteless, and only helped typecast Denise Richards as some
low-standard actress. And then there are movies that have nudity everywhere
which serves no purpose, but those are the movies you see on premium channels
at 3 am. So in my opinion, yes, an actress can still go nude and retain some
respect and dignity, as long as it's not just a pull to bring in the (male)
audience, in which case I do lose respect for them.

~Matt

<<But speaking of nudity.  What are people's feelings concerning that?  My
boyfriend says he has no respect for people who get nude in films.  i'm not
sure where i stand.  any thoughts?>>

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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 11:59:09 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: [MV] Rushmore

Actually, that last song was called "Oh La La" by The Faces.

~Matt

<<The best part of the film, musically, I thought, was the ending, when they
played wish that I knew waht I know now, by rod stewart.  That gave me
goosebumps, and for something even remotely romantic to move me in any way is
quite an accomplishment.  ANyway, I just really liked this movie>>

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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 10:16:56 -0700
From: "Romero, Leticia" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [MV] a ditty on nudity

I want to see a bunch of naked men!  Not that I'm a freak or anything, I
just think it's too one-sided when the male director would rather see a
naked woman instead of feeling inadequate when Harvey Kietel strips down...
And James, you ARE a freak...

> -----Original Message-----
> From:    jkrudy [SMTP:[e-mail]]
> Sent:    Tuesday, July 20, 1999 8:41 AM
> To:    '[e-mail]'
> Subject:    [MV] a ditty on nudity
> Importance:    Low
>
> The more nudity the better!  As long as it's all female of course :)  I
> mean
> honestly, who wants to see a bunch of naked men?  I think almost every
> movie
> would have been better with naked women in them.  For example:  Armageddon
> would have been a much better movie if Liv Tyler had been naked in it.
> The
> Phantom Menace, as great as it was would have been even better with some
> full frontal nudity (Natalie Portman, and the rest of the Hand
> maidens!!!).
> I haven't seen South Park yet, but I'm sure some nudity in it would only
> be
> beneficial!
>
> (NOTE: The old timers on this list know I'm just joking so for you
> newbies,
> save your time and don't rip me apart.)
>
> James Rudy
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Danielle Conkle [mailto:[e-mail]]
> Sent: Monday, July 19, 1999 11:40 PM
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: [MV] Just saw Eyes Wide Shut...& a ditty on nudity
>
>
> I saw EWS tonight and i loved it!  Usually I am really effected my reviews
>
> because i start noticing everything they did, and i don't like the movie.
> I
>
> wasn't even going to see EWS but my boyfriend wanted to go so we did.   I
> never saw a good review, just lots of people told me how awful it was.
>
> So maybe i had prepped myself for something really horrible.  and when it
> wasn't...i liked it.  Anyway, i was really enthralled with everything.
> The
> music was perfectly creepy.  reminds me of how famous the music from 2001
> effected the movie.  i didn't think it was boring, and enjoyed the slow
> speech  (anyone notice how cruise's character almost always repeated what
> the other person would say before he answered or responded?).
>
> there didn't appear to be any plot, but i enjoyed it anyway.
>
> Wasn't real big on watching the naked women ;) and i couldn't even tell
> where anything had been digitally covered...and didn't feel anything more
> had to be revealed to get across the point.  Infact i think even less
> could
> have been shown.  Sort of like psycho, you got the effect of her being
> stabbed in the shower without ever really seeing anything.  I think i
> would
> have preferred something more...i can't think of the word, maybe i'm
> thinking of "less".  But i'm a girl, so maybe the guys out there liked all
>
> of that ;)
>
> But speaking of nudity.  What are people's feelings concerning that?  My
> boyfriend says he has no respect for people who get nude in films.  i'm
> not
> sure where i stand.  any thoughts?
>
>
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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 11:44:28 -0600
From: jkrudy <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [MV] a ditty on nudity and orgazmo

Me?  A freak?  Thank you for noticing!!  You are correct.  It is very one
sided, except in the case of Orgazmo.  Here's a movie about the porno
industry (and Mormons??) and you see more naked male butts than anything
else.  What a let down.

James


- -----Original Message-----
From: Romero, Leticia [mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 1999 11:17 AM
To: '[e-mail]'
Subject: RE: [MV] a ditty on nudity


I want to see a bunch of naked men!  Not that I'm a freak or anything, I
just think it's too one-sided when the male director would rather see a
naked woman instead of feeling inadequate when Harvey Kietel strips down...
And James, you ARE a freak...

> -----Original Message-----
> From:    jkrudy [SMTP:[e-mail]]
> Sent:    Tuesday, July 20, 1999 8:41 AM
> To:    '[e-mail]'
> Subject:    [MV] a ditty on nudity
> Importance:    Low
>
> The more nudity the better!  As long as it's all female of course :)  I
> mean
> honestly, who wants to see a bunch of naked men?  I think almost every
> movie
> would have been better with naked women in them.  For example:  Armageddon
> would have been a much better movie if Liv Tyler had been naked in it.
> The
> Phantom Menace, as great as it was would have been even better with some
> full frontal nudity (Natalie Portman, and the rest of the Hand
> maidens!!!).
> I haven't seen South Park yet, but I'm sure some nudity in it would only
> be
> beneficial!
>
> (NOTE: The old timers on this list know I'm just joking so for you
> newbies,
> save your time and don't rip me apart.)
>
> James Rudy
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Danielle Conkle [mailto:[e-mail]]
> Sent: Monday, July 19, 1999 11:40 PM
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: [MV] Just saw Eyes Wide Shut...& a ditty on nudity
>
>
> I saw EWS tonight and i loved it!  Usually I am really effected my reviews
>
> because i start noticing everything they did, and i don't like the movie.
> I
>
> wasn't even going to see EWS but my boyfriend wanted to go so we did.   I
> never saw a good review, just lots of people told me how awful it was.
>
> So maybe i had prepped myself for something really horrible.  and when it
> wasn't...i liked it.  Anyway, i was really enthralled with everything.
> The
> music was perfectly creepy.  reminds me of how famous the music from 2001
> effected the movie.  i didn't think it was boring, and enjoyed the slow
> speech  (anyone notice how cruise's character almost always repeated what
> the other person would say before he answered or responded?).
>
> there didn't appear to be any plot, but i enjoyed it anyway.
>
> Wasn't real big on watching the naked women ;) and i couldn't even tell
> where anything had been digitally covered...and didn't feel anything more
> had to be revealed to get across the point.  Infact i think even less
> could
> have been shown.  Sort of like psycho, you got the effect of her being
> stabbed in the shower without ever really seeing anything.  I think i
> would
> have preferred something more...i can't think of the word, maybe i'm
> thinking of "less".  But i'm a girl, so maybe the guys out there liked all
>
> of that ;)
>
> But speaking of nudity.  What are people's feelings concerning that?  My
> boyfriend says he has no respect for people who get nude in films.  i'm
> not
> sure where i stand.  any thoughts?
>
>
> _______________________________________________________________
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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 10:45:39 -0700
From: "Romero, Leticia" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [MV] a ditty on nudity and orgazmo

Must have been ugly butts...

> -----Original Message-----
> From:    jkrudy [SMTP:[e-mail]]
> Sent:    Tuesday, July 20, 1999 10:44 AM
> To:    '[e-mail]'
> Subject:    RE: [MV] a ditty on nudity and orgazmo
> Importance:    Low
>
> Me?  A freak?  Thank you for noticing!!  You are correct.  It is very one
> sided, except in the case of Orgazmo.  Here's a movie about the porno
> industry (and Mormons??) and you see more naked male butts than anything
> else.  What a let down.
>
> James
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Romero, Leticia [mailto:[e-mail]]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 1999 11:17 AM
> To: '[e-mail]'
> Subject: RE: [MV] a ditty on nudity
>
>
> I want to see a bunch of naked men!  Not that I'm a freak or anything, I
> just think it's too one-sided when the male director would rather see a
> naked woman instead of feeling inadequate when Harvey Kietel strips
> down...
> And James, you ARE a freak...
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:    jkrudy [SMTP:[e-mail]]
> > Sent:    Tuesday, July 20, 1999 8:41 AM
> > To:    '[e-mail]'
> > Subject:    [MV] a ditty on nudity
> > Importance:    Low
> >
> > The more nudity the better!  As long as it's all female of course :)  I
> > mean
> > honestly, who wants to see a bunch of naked men?  I think almost every
> > movie
> > would have been better with naked women in them.  For example:
> Armageddon
> > would have been a much better movie if Liv Tyler had been naked in it.
> > The
> > Phantom Menace, as great as it was would have been even better with some
> > full frontal nudity (Natalie Portman, and the rest of the Hand
> > maidens!!!).
> > I haven't seen South Park yet, but I'm sure some nudity in it would only
> > be
> > beneficial!
> >
> > (NOTE: The old timers on this list know I'm just joking so for you
> > newbies,
> > save your time and don't rip me apart.)
> >
> > James Rudy
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Danielle Conkle [mailto:[e-mail]]
> > Sent: Monday, July 19, 1999 11:40 PM
> > To: [e-mail]
> > Subject: [MV] Just saw Eyes Wide Shut...& a ditty on nudity
> >
> >
> > I saw EWS tonight and i loved it!  Usually I am really effected my
> reviews
> >
> > because i start noticing everything they did, and i don't like the
> movie.
> > I
> >
> > wasn't even going to see EWS but my boyfriend wanted to go so we did.
> I
> > never saw a good review, just lots of people told me how awful it was.
> >
> > So maybe i had prepped myself for something really horrible.  and when
> it
> > wasn't...i liked it.  Anyway, i was really enthralled with everything.
> > The
> > music was perfectly creepy.  reminds me of how famous the music from
> 2001
> > effected the movie.  i didn't think it was boring, and enjoyed the slow
> > speech  (anyone notice how cruise's character almost always repeated
> what
> > the other person would say before he answered or responded?).
> >
> > there didn't appear to be any plot, but i enjoyed it anyway.
> >
> > Wasn't real big on watching the naked women ;) and i couldn't even tell
> > where anything had been digitally covered...and didn't feel anything
> more
> > had to be revealed to get across the point.  Infact i think even less
> > could
> > have been shown.  Sort of like psycho, you got the effect of her being
> > stabbed in the shower without ever really seeing anything.  I think i
> > would
> > have preferred something more...i can't think of the word, maybe i'm
> > thinking of "less".  But i'm a girl, so maybe the guys out there liked
> all
> >
> > of that ;)
> >
> > But speaking of nudity.  What are people's feelings concerning that?  My
>
> > boyfriend says he has no respect for people who get nude in films.  i'm
> > not
> > sure where i stand.  any thoughts?
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________________________
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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 13:12:05 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: RE: [MV] a ditty on nudity and orgazmo

well, its mostly matt stone and trey parker's, right?  in that case, i
would say a definite yes.

At 10:45 AM 7/20/99 -0700, Romero, Leticia wrote:
>Must have been ugly butts...
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From:    jkrudy [SMTP:[e-mail]]
>> Sent:    Tuesday, July 20, 1999 10:44 AM
>> To:    '[e-mail]'
>> Subject:    RE: [MV] a ditty on nudity and orgazmo
>> Importance:    Low
>>
>> Me?  A freak?  Thank you for noticing!!  You are correct.  It is very one
>> sided, except in the case of Orgazmo.  Here's a movie about the porno
>> industry (and Mormons??) and you see more naked male butts than anything
>> else.  What a let down.
>>
>> James
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Romero, Leticia [mailto:[e-mail]]
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 1999 11:17 AM
>> To: '[e-mail]'
>> Subject: RE: [MV] a ditty on nudity
>>
>>
>> I want to see a bunch of naked men!  Not that I'm a freak or anything, I
>> just think it's too one-sided when the male director would rather see a
>> naked woman instead of feeling inadequate when Harvey Kietel strips
>> down...
>> And James, you ARE a freak...
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From:    jkrudy [SMTP:[e-mail]]
>> > Sent:    Tuesday, July 20, 1999 8:41 AM
>> > To:    '[e-mail]'
>> > Subject:    [MV] a ditty on nudity
>> > Importance:    Low
>> >
>> > The more nudity the better!  As long as it's all female of course :)  I
>> > mean
>> > honestly, who wants to see a bunch of naked men?  I think almost every
>> > movie
>> > would have been better with naked women in them.  For example:
>> Armageddon
>> > would have been a much better movie if Liv Tyler had been naked in it.
>> > The
>> > Phantom Menace, as great as it was would have been even better with some
>> > full frontal nudity (Natalie Portman, and the rest of the Hand
>> > maidens!!!).
>> > I haven't seen South Park yet, but I'm sure some nudity in it would only
>> > be
>> > beneficial!
>> >
>> > (NOTE: The old timers on this list know I'm just joking so for you
>> > newbies,
>> > save your time and don't rip me apart.)
>> >
>> > James Rudy
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Danielle Conkle [mailto:[e-mail]]
>> > Sent: Monday, July 19, 1999 11:40 PM
>> > To: [e-mail]
>> > Subject: [MV] Just saw Eyes Wide Shut...& a ditty on nudity
>> >
>> >
>> > I saw EWS tonight and i loved it!  Usually I am really effected my
>> reviews
>> >
>> > because i start noticing everything they did, and i don't like the
>> movie.
>> > I
>> >
>> > wasn't even going to see EWS but my boyfriend wanted to go so we did.
>> I
>> > never saw a good review, just lots of people told me how awful it was.
>> >
>> > So maybe i had prepped myself for something really horrible.  and when
>> it
>> > wasn't...i liked it.  Anyway, i was really enthralled with everything.
>> > The
>> > music was perfectly creepy.  reminds me of how famous the music from
>> 2001
>> > effected the movie.  i didn't think it was boring, and enjoyed the slow
>> > speech  (anyone notice how cruise's character almost always repeated
>> what
>> > the other person would say before he answered or responded?).
>> >
>> > there didn't appear to be any plot, but i enjoyed it anyway.
>> >
>> > Wasn't real big on watching the naked women ;) and i couldn't even tell
>> > where anything had been digitally covered...and didn't feel anything
>> more
>> > had to be revealed to get across the point.  Infact i think even less
>> > could
>> > have been shown.  Sort of like psycho, you got the effect of her being
>> > stabbed in the shower without ever really seeing anything.  I think i
>> > would
>> > have preferred something more...i can't think of the word, maybe i'm
>> > thinking of "less".  But i'm a girl, so maybe the guys out there liked
>> all
>> >
>> > of that ;)
>> >
>> > But speaking of nudity.  What are people's feelings concerning that?  My
>>
>> > boyfriend says he has no respect for people who get nude in films.  i'm
>> > not
>> > sure where i stand.  any thoughts?
>> >
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________________________
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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 15:53:27 -0400 (EDT)
From: ron c <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [MV] Doing Da Butt

Howdy,

You know, I can appreciate a nice tush as much as the next.
Being hetreo and all, I'm particually partial to female
tushy with all due respect to Matt Stone and Trey Parker.
However, I have to agree, EWS was way one-sided with the
nudity. I almost felt guity as I watched with a female
friend all of those beautiful nude women (well, Nicole
could use a sandwich come to think of it) and all she got
to see was...hey, where there any naked guys?

Any who, I figure if you're going to check out a flick for
T&A and god-knows what else, rent a porno. To be honest,
I'd careless if there was no nudity in this flick if the
pace were a  little quicker and it there were a tab bit
more clarity in the meaning of it all. Then again, I didn't
care for 2001 (I'm more of the Dr Strangelove/Barry/Orange
ilk).

Later People and Freaks alike,

Ron



- --- [e-mail] wrote:
> well, its mostly matt stone and trey parker's, right?  in
> that case, i
> would say a definite yes.
>
> At 10:45 AM 7/20/99 -0700, Romero, Leticia wrote:
> >Must have been ugly butts...
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From:    jkrudy [SMTP:[e-mail]]
> >> Sent:    Tuesday, July 20, 1999 10:44 AM
> >> To:    '[e-mail]'
> >> Subject:    RE: [MV] a ditty on nudity and orgazmo
> >> Importance:    Low
> >>
> >> Me?  A freak?  Thank you for noticing!!  You are
> correct.  It is very one
> >> sided, except in the case of Orgazmo.  Here's a movie
> about the porno
> >> industry (and Mormons??) and you see more naked male
> butts than anything
> >> else.  What a let down.
> >>
> >> James
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Romero, Leticia [mailto:[e-mail]]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 1999 11:17 AM
> >> To: '[e-mail]'
> >> Subject: RE: [MV] a ditty on nudity
> >>
> >>
> >> I want to see a bunch of naked men!  Not that I'm a
> freak or anything, I
> >> just think it's too one-sided when the male director
> would rather see a
> >> naked woman instead of feeling inadequate when Harvey
> Kietel strips
> >> down...
> >> And James, you ARE a freak...
> >>
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From:    jkrudy [SMTP:[e-mail]]
> >> > Sent:    Tuesday, July 20, 1999 8:41 AM
> >> > To:    '[e-mail]'
> >> > Subject:    [MV] a ditty on nudity
> >> > Importance:    Low
> >> >
> >> > The more nudity the better!  As long as it's all
> female of course :)  I
> >> > mean
> >> > honestly, who wants to see a bunch of naked men?  I
> think almost every
> >> > movie
> >> > would have been better with naked women in them.
> For example:
> >> Armageddon
> >> > would have been a much better movie if Liv Tyler had
> been naked in it.
> >> > The
> >> > Phantom Menace, as great as it was would have been
> even better with some
> >> > full frontal nudity (Natalie Portman, and the rest
> of the Hand
> >> > maidens!!!).
> >> > I haven't seen South Park yet, but I'm sure some
> nudity in it would only
> >> > be
> >> > beneficial!
> >> >
> >> > (NOTE: The old timers on this list know I'm just
> joking so for you
> >> > newbies,
> >> > save your time and don't rip me apart.)
> >> >
> >> > James Rudy
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: Danielle Conkle [mailto:[e-mail]]
> >> > Sent: Monday, July 19, 1999 11:40 PM
> >> > To: [e-mail]
> >> > Subject: [MV] Just saw Eyes Wide Shut...& a ditty on
> nudity
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I saw EWS tonight and i loved it!  Usually I am
> really effected my
> >> reviews
> >> >
> >> > because i start noticing everything they did, and i
> don't like the
> >> movie.
> >> > I
> >> >
> >> > wasn't even going to see EWS but my boyfriend wanted
> to go so we did.
> >> I
> >> > never saw a good review, just lots of people told me
> how awful it was.
> >> >
> >> > So maybe i had prepped myself for something really
> horrible.  and when
> >> it
> >> > wasn't...i liked it.  Anyway, i was really
> enthralled with everything.
> >> > The
> >> > music was perfectly creepy.  reminds me of how
> famous the music from
> >> 2001
> >> > effected the movie.  i didn't think it was boring,
> and enjoyed the slow
> >> > speech  (anyone notice how cruise's character almost
> always repeated
> >> what
> >> > the other person would say before he answered or
> responded?).
> >> >
> >> > there didn't appear to be any plot, but i enjoyed it
> anyway.
> >> >
> >> > Wasn't real big on watching the naked women ;) and i
> couldn't even tell
> >> > where anything had been digitally covered...and
> didn't feel anything
> >> more
> >> > had to be revealed to get across the point.  Infact
> i think even less
> >> > could
> >> > have been shown.  Sort of like psycho, you got the
> effect of her being
> >> > stabbed in the shower without ever really seeing
> anything.  I think i
> >> > would
> >> > have preferred something more...i can't think of the
> word, maybe i'm
> >> > thinking of "less".  But i'm a girl, so maybe the
> guys out there liked
> >> all
> >> >
> >> > of that ;)
> >> >
> >> > But speaking of nudity.  What are people's feelings
> concerning that?  My
> >>
> >> > boyfriend says he has no respect for people who get
> nude in films.  i'm
> >> > not
> >> > sure where i stand.  any thoughts?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 16:51:53 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: [MV] Rushmore

In a message dated 7/20/99 12:13:23 PM Central Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

> Actually, that last song was called "Oh La La" by The Faces.
>
>  ~Matt
>
>  <<The best part of the film, musically, I thought, was the ending, when
they
>
>  played wish that I knew waht I know now, by rod stewart.  That gave me
>  goosebumps, and for something even remotely romantic to move me in any way
> is
>  quite an accomplishment.  ANyway, I just really liked this movie>>
Are you sure about that/??  I could swear that was wish that I knew what I
know now, by stewart?  I don't know, maybe he covered it.  Regardless, I
really liked it

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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 16:52:45 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: [MV] a ditty on nudity

In a message dated 7/20/99 12:20:20 PM Central Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

>  I want to see a bunch of naked men!  Not that I'm a freak or anything, I
>  just think it's too one-sided when the male director would rather see a
>  naked woman instead of feeling inadequate when Harvey Kietel strips down...
>  And James, you ARE a freak...

Watch The Governess

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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 16:58:12 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: [MV] Doing Da Butt

The nudity in Kubrick's movies aren't done for erotic purposes.  Watch
clockwork orange.  If you thought the nudity in Clockwork orange was eroitc,
something's wrong ;-).  But really, most of his nudity is done not for erotic
effect, but for some other purpose.  I thought a lot of the talking that was
done during the film was MUCH more erotic than the nudity scenes themselves

In a message dated 7/20/99 2:54:32 PM Central Daylight Time, [e-mail]
writes:

> Howdy,
>
>  You know, I can appreciate a nice tush as much as the next.
>  Being hetreo and all, I'm particually partial to female
>  tushy with all due respect to Matt Stone and Trey Parker.
>  However, I have to agree, EWS was way one-sided with the
>  nudity. I almost felt guity as I watched with a female
>  friend all of those beautiful nude women (well, Nicole
>  could use a sandwich come to think of it) and all she got
>  to see was...hey, where there any naked guys?
>
>  Any who, I figure if you're going to check out a flick for
>  T&A and god-knows what else, rent a porno. To be honest,
>  I'd careless if there was no nudity in this flick if the
>  pace were a  little quicker and it there were a tab bit
>  more clarity in the meaning of it all. Then again, I didn't
>  care for 2001 (I'm more of the Dr Strangelove/Barry/Orange
>  ilk).

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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 16:03:28 -0500
From: Wade Snider <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [MV] Rushmore

Is that not the same thing?  Stewart was the lead singer of the Faces I
thought....

> -----Original Message-----
> From:    [e-mail] [SMTP:[e-mail]]
> Sent:    Tuesday, July 20, 1999 3:52 PM
> To:    [e-mail]
> Subject:    Re: [MV] Rushmore
>
> In a message dated 7/20/99 12:13:23 PM Central Daylight Time,
> [e-mail] writes:
>
> > Actually, that last song was called "Oh La La" by The Faces.
> >
> >  ~Matt
> >
> >  <<The best part of the film, musically, I thought, was the ending, when
>
> they
> >
> >  played wish that I knew waht I know now, by rod stewart.  That gave me
> >  goosebumps, and for something even remotely romantic to move me in any
> way
> > is
> >  quite an accomplishment.  ANyway, I just really liked this movie>>
> Are you sure about that/??  I could swear that was wish that I knew what I
>
> know now, by stewart?  I don't know, maybe he covered it.  Regardless, I
> really liked it
>
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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 17:10:30 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: [MV] Re: Rushmore

Rushmore!  I saw it, but I didn't get it.  Bill and Jason and Olivia (?)...
absolutely uninspiring.  I asked for my money back on "Dark City" (didn't get
it only because I sat through the whole thing), but I was too embarrassed to
knock a Bill Murray movie.  It wasn't funny.  Bill looked like he was
bloating himself along.  Spend your money on Life is Beautiful or Xiu Xiu.

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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 17:13:40 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: [MV] Rushmore

Yeah, sure. Soundtrack right here in front of me, track 19, "Oh La La" by The
Faces.

~Matt

<<Are you sure about that/??  I could swear that was wish that I knew what I
know now, by stewart?  I don't know, maybe he covered it.  Regardless, I
really liked it>>

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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 16:20:26 -0500
From: Wade Snider <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [MV] Rushmore

Like I said once, aren't you guys talking about the same song, really?  It
is Stewart when he was with the Faces in the late 60s.

?

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> Sent:    Tuesday, July 20, 1999 4:14 PM
> To:    [e-mail]
> Subject:    Re: [MV] Rushmore
>
> Yeah, sure. Soundtrack right here in front of me, track 19, "Oh La La" by
> The
> Faces.
>
> ~Matt
>
> <<Are you sure about that/??  I could swear that was wish that I knew what
> I
> know now, by stewart?  I don't know, maybe he covered it.  Regardless, I
> really liked it>>
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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 17:59:19 -0400 (EDT)
From: ron c <[e-mail]>
Subject: [MV] RE: Enough with Rod

Oh For Crying Out Loud!

Rod Steward sang for the Faces in the late 60s, but it was
not "HIS" band no more than The Jeff Beck Group was HIS
band. He was just the bloody singer. He and his ego got too
big and he did his own thing more notably in the 70s under
his own name. Okay, enough already!

And btw, Rushmore was the best movie I've seen all summer
if not all year. I dug it better than EWS,Sumer of Sam, and
most definitely Star Bores. I'm baffled as to those who
didn't "get" this quirky gem, but hey, we don't all have
the same tastes, right?

Okay, I've yapped enough.

Ron

PS Oh yeah, clearly eroticism played a big part of EWS and
it WAS intentional. And though I didn't check out the flick
to get off, I still say it was one-sided with the nudity
(all female, scarcely any male). So there!



- --- Wade Snider <[e-mail]>
wrote:
> Like I said once, aren't you guys talking about the same
> song, really?  It
> is Stewart when he was with the Faces in the late 60s.
>

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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 08:26:58 CDT
From: "Wade S." <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] RE: Enough with Rod

I don't thinK i said it was his band... I said he was with them. I am just
pointing out that they are talking about the same thing, skipy just had the
name of the song wrong...


>From: ron c <[e-mail]>
>Reply-To: [e-mail]
>To: [e-mail]
>Subject: [MV] RE: Enough with Rod
>Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 17:59:19 -0400 (EDT)
>
>
>Oh For Crying Out Loud!
>
>Rod Steward sang for the Faces in the late 60s, but it was
>not "HIS" band no more than The Jeff Beck Group was HIS
>band. He was just the bloody singer. He and his ego got too
>big and he did his own thing more notably in the 70s under
>his own name. Okay, enough already!
>
>And btw, Rushmore was the best movie I've seen all summer
>if not all year. I dug it better than EWS,Sumer of Sam, and
>most definitely Star Bores. I'm baffled as to those who
>didn't "get" this quirky gem, but hey, we don't all have
>the same tastes, right?
>
>Okay, I've yapped enough.
>
>Ron
>
>PS Oh yeah, clearly eroticism played a big part of EWS and
>it WAS intentional. And though I didn't check out the flick
>to get off, I still say it was one-sided with the nudity
>(all female, scarcely any male). So there!
>
>
>
>--- Wade Snider <[e-mail]>
>wrote:
> > Like I said once, aren't you guys talking about the same
> > song, really?  It
> > is Stewart when he was with the Faces in the late 60s.
> >
>
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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 13:54:55 -0600
From: "The Reporter" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [MV] Movie News - 07/21/99

(Launch) - Pierce Brosnan, who will soon be seen on the big screen in
"The Thomas Crown Affair," tells US magazine that he knew no one
other than Rene Russo who could pull off the role of his co-star in
the remake. Brosnan, who also produced the highly anticipated film,
tells the magazine that he pooh-poohed studio executives who were
hoping to land Michelle Pfieffer or Julia Roberts for the film's lead
female role. "When I got the call from Pierce, he made it seem like I
was the only female on earth for the part," said Russo. "This movie
was clearly Pierce's baby, his dream." Brosnan admits that there is a
lot riding on the new film. "You're going to have people take a swipe
at you, particularly when you're dealing with a role that is so
closely associated with Steve McQueen, one of the cinematic icons of
American movie lore. "The Thomas Crown Affair" hits theaters Aug. 6.

                        -=> * <=-

(Launch) - The low-budget horror movie "The Blair Witch Project"
scored a major coup over the weekend - despite the bellowing of
Hollywood's summer big guns, "Blair Witch" scared up $1.5 million
from moviegoers in only 27 theaters. Such a performance means that
the movie raked in around $58,000 per screen, meaning that each
screen's take was well more than double the movie's entire budget. By
comparison, the per-screen take for the weekend's top flick, "Eyes
Wide Shut," was only $9,457. Helping "Blair Witch" was a genius
marketing campaign which deliberately blurred the lines between
fantasy and real-life. The movie hints that it's made up of real
footage from a documentary film crew that disappears in the woods of
Maryland while trying to record evidence of a local legend called the
Blair Witch.

"We just wanted to make sure that it was convincing 100% of the time,
the entire experience you were watching - this first person
perspective, this home video into hell of these three film students,"
co-writer/co-director Daniel Myrick said.

                        -=> * <=-

LOS ANGELES (AP) - Want a piece of Austin Powers? Looking for
something in a gaudy '70s jumpsuit from "Boogie Nights"? Interested
in "Melrose Place" swimming pool water with a guarantee that Heather
Locklear swam here? Movie studios, with warehouses full of the stuff
that dreams are made of, have begun testing the collectibles market
with online auctions to peddle props from films and TV shows, along
with other entertainment memorabilia. Many studios and production
companies have online stores that sell mass-produced items related to
popular movies or shows. But Universal and New Line are the first to
take up the Web gavel and offer one-of-a-kind wardrobe items, pieces
of movie sets and other props to high bidders in sales similar to
those run by eBay, Amazon.com and other online auctioneers.

                        -=> * <=-

LONGVIEW, Wash. (AP) - Folks in Longview can't wait for Robert De
Niro and Cuba Gooding Jr. to show up and begin filming their next
movie. Forget the glamour - they just want the cash. "This will be
phenomenal income to the whole community," said Frankie Sherer,
director of sales for the DoubleTree Inn in neighboring Kelso, which
has rented 75 rooms to 20th Century Fox production crews. Officials
hope De Niro and Gooding's film, "Navy Diver," pumps as much into the
local economy as the recent film "Snow Falling on Cedars," which
generated $1.5 million and employed 200 people.

As many as 900 locals could be hired to depict scenes in New York's
Harlem neighborhood and a U.S. Navy base. A June casting call drew
1,600 applicants, most of them from Portland, Ore., said Emily
Dunlap, extras casting director for Portland-based Background Action.
Set construction for "Navy Diver" is to start next week. The biggest
project is a full-scale naval station - 14 buildings and two piers -
to be built near Rainier, about 50 miles north of Portland, Ore. The
structures will be destroyed when filming is complete.

                        -=> * <=-

(Launch) - John Singleton's upcoming retelling of the 1970s
blaxploitation flick "Shaft" is still in pre-production, but it has
many fans curious. "Pulp Fiction" star Samuel L. Jackson is poised to
step into Richard Roundtree's maroon platform shoes as the titular
New York City cop. "It should reflect the times we're in now. It's
not a remake," Jackson said. "So the social milieu that John Shaft's
in should be greater than Harlem now. It should encompass all of
Manhattan in a very specific kind of way. Hopefully, he'll be a
millennial black private dick who's the sex machine to all the
chicks." Jackson will be seen next in the thriller "Deep Blue Sea,"
which opens July 30.

                        -=> * <=-

(UltimateTV.com) - Daytime TV talk show host Montel Williams is
directing his first film, titled "Little Pieces," reports Daily
Variety. The drama, which follows the lives of three women, was
written by Williams' wife, Grace Morely and Amy Acton. "Homicide:
Life on the Street" star Jon Seda has been cast along side Daniel
Quinn ("Extreme Justice") and Acton. "Little Pieces" went into
production last week.


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Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 13:32:43 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: [MV] Samuel L Jackson

I just read a great article about Jackson recommending Hard Eight.
Has anyone seen it?
I loved Jackie Brown.


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Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 13:42:04 -0500
From: "IrishBoy" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] Samuel L Jackson

I saw it ... It was very good, first movie from the director of "Boogie
Nights"

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To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: Thursday, July 22, 1999 1:32 PM
Subject: [MV] Samuel L Jackson


>I just read a great article about Jackson recommending Hard Eight.
>Has anyone seen it?
>I loved Jackie Brown.
>
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Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:52:23 -0600
From: jkrudy <[e-mail]>
Subject: [MV] Bob Roberts

Bob Roberts w/ some spoilers for you lucky people who have never seen it.





I know this may be an unpopular position to take on this movie, but I have
never before experienced a more painfully slow movie in my life.  First off,
Tim Robbins should never be allowed to sing.  What director in his right
mind would allow him to sing, not just once or twice but throughout the
whole movie?  No director, that's why Tim Robbins had to direct it himself.
I'm sorry, I know it was suppose to be a political satire and all, but I
just didn't get this movie.  It was ponderous, it never allowed you to get
to know Bob Roberts or any of the characters for that matter,  and the
ending left me and my wife arguing over whether he had really been shot or
not.  Yes his foot was tapping at the end, but they said he could begin to
recover feeling in his toes, then feet, then legs and could one day walk
again.  Hell, it was just like politics, was that the point, and if it was
why bother?  The whole thing seemed to be an ego trip on Tim Robbins part
and I hate to see that because I really like him as an actor.  It was a poor
choice on my part, and can anybody agree that it belongs in the comedy
section of the video store?  I think Drama would have been more appropriate.

James Rudy

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Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:01:51 -0700
From: "Romero, Leticia" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [MV] Bob Roberts

Spoilers ahead!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
1) YES, he was shot, but by one of his own people and that reporter was
framed for it.
2) I think Tim Robbins' voice was just fine, Pavoratti...
3) How could you have not gotten to know Bob?  He was a lying, cheating,
bigot!  How did you miss that?  Yes, it was ponderous, and you're pondering
on whether to trust the next up and coming popular candidate of ANY election
- - that was the point.


> -----Original Message-----
> From:    jkrudy [SMTP:[e-mail]]
> Sent:    Thursday, July 22, 1999 11:52 AM
> To:    '[e-mail]'
> Subject:    [MV] Bob Roberts
> Importance:    Low
>
> Bob Roberts w/ some spoilers for you lucky people who have never seen it.
>
>
>
>
>
> I know this may be an unpopular position to take on this movie, but I have
> never before experienced a more painfully slow movie in my life.  First
> off,
> Tim Robbins should never be allowed to sing.  What director in his right
> mind would allow him to sing, not just once or twice but throughout the
> whole movie?  No director, that's why Tim Robbins had to direct it
> himself.
> I'm sorry, I know it was suppose to be a political satire and all, but I
> just didn't get this movie.  It was ponderous, it never allowed you to get
> to know Bob Roberts or any of the characters for that matter,  and the
> ending left me and my wife arguing over whether he had really been shot or
> not.  Yes his foot was tapping at the end, but they said he could begin to
> recover feeling in his toes, then feet, then legs and could one day walk
> again.  Hell, it was just like politics, was that the point, and if it was
> why bother?  The whole thing seemed to be an ego trip on Tim Robbins part
> and I hate to see that because I really like him as an actor.  It was a
> poor
> choice on my part, and can anybody agree that it belongs in the comedy
> section of the video store?  I think Drama would have been more
> appropriate.
>
> James Rudy
>
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Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 14:08:15 -0500
From: Wade Snider <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [MV] Samuel L Jackson

I personally didn't like it that much. Some of it was interesting,
especially as the surroundings were very authentic, and the acting is pretty
good. Jackson is not the biggest character, although he has some of the most
interesting scenes. Even so, his character is not all that unlike his
character in Jackie Brown, and that's not really a good thing. Phillip Baker
Hall is the main character, and he is very good and captivating in a lot of
his lecture type discussions. John C Reilly and Gwenyth Paltrow are also in
it. This to me is a movie that has good atmosphere and good acting,
especially some good writing for the characters, but the movie is not much
about anything. The story is pretty weak, and when conflict does arise, it
is not that interesting. It's kind of a movie that is centered viewing
characters in an atmosphere, as opposed to having them do anything really
significant. Oh, there are some little plot twists and stuff, but not
overall important.

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> From:    IrishBoy [SMTP:[e-mail]]
> Sent:    Thursday, July 22, 1999 1:42 PM
> To:    [e-mail]
> Subject:    Re: [MV] Samuel L Jackson
>
> I saw it ... It was very good, first movie from the director of "Boogie
> Nights"
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
> To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
> Date: Thursday, July 22, 1999 1:32 PM
> Subject: [MV] Samuel L Jackson
>
>
> >I just read a great article about Jackson recommending Hard Eight.
> >Has anyone seen it?
> >I loved Jackie Brown.
> >
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