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Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 01:23:08 EST
From: SkipyLlama@aol.com
Subject: Re: [MV] Kazan
> I thought the display of unmoving decidedness by some of the actors in the
audience was terrible, and for some, positively inappropriate!!
what you seem to be forgetting is the horribly "inappropriate" behavior Kazan
showed to his peers during the witch hunts of the 50's. whew, I could go on
for an hour, but it'd just be me ranting about it, and if you want ranting,
Arthur miller (a "friend" whom he happened to have turned in) does it much
better than I could ever dream to in Crucible...... I think the only thing
inappropriate that happened tonight was that Kazan got the award in the first
place.
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Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 01:46:10 -0800
From: "Jason Cormier" <movieman@netcom.ca>
Subject: [MV] Hilary and Jackie's Smoking Barrel Affliction...reviews
Saw some more flicks before Oscar got to them...
First off is Hilary and Jackie - a great film with Emily Watson and Rachel
Griffiths both deservingly nominated for academy awards (sadly both losing -
but to the talented Paltrow and Dench). This movie depicts two sisters who
love each other so much that they can read each other's minds. They grow up
together following their mother's dream of becoming musicians. This causes
some rifts as you can well imagine - and we see their lives played out in
this moving true life account. Great flick that probably not many people
will ever see - 87%.
Next was Affliction with Nolte and Cobourn both nominated for the statue
(Cobourn got one but Nolte did not). Great acting by both but not enough to
keep anyone awake for the length of this movie - not that it was overlong -
it was just a tad on the slow-moving side. An interesting look at how anger
is passed down to the next generation from father to son - it just took too
long to tell it I guess. A 74%.
Finally I saw a hilarious (or is it an hilarious?) flick called Lock, Stock
and 2 Smoking Barrels which is the newest import form ye olde Britain. A
dark and viscous comedy that would make Tarantino proud. Many coincidences
and mishaps occur and build up to even more impossibilities that by the end
we don't know what to expect. A fun movie that should not be seen by the
faint of heart or the humourless. An 85% for a jolly good time.
And lastly - the Oscars - a great show with some good surprises and some
water cooler conversation material with Benigni and his excitability! A bit
of a surprise with Shakespeare winning best pic after Spielberg won for
Ryan - not often that that happens!! Hope you all caught a glimpse of some
fun - whether it was Whoopi's fairly entertaining jokes, Jim Carrey's
hilarious mugging, Chris Rock's embarassing presentation, Benigni's chair
climbing, Paltrow's misty eyes, fellow Canadian Jewison's well said speech
or the seemingly almost forgotten Stanley Kubrick homage. A wonderful
evening that reminds us that movies make a lot of people happy!
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Date: Sun, 21 Mar 99 22:58:00 -0700
From: David F. Nolan <DFN@alum.mit.edu>
Subject: [MV] Re: Smoking Barrel
Jason Cormier wrote:
> A dark and viscous comedy that would make Tarantino proud.
You mean... it's thick and sticky, Jason?
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Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 09:15:05 -0500 (EST)
From: maillist@moviejuice.com
Subject: [MV] MovieJuice! - SPECIAL OSCAR EDITION
OSCAR« 1999 - SHAKING GWYN IN LOVE
by Mark Ramsey
http://www.moviejuice.com
March 21, 1999
Another Oscar« comes and goes. Another chance for Center Square to host Hollywood's biggest night. Yep, if Whoopi pushed any more envelopes she'd need tube socks and a passport office.
Whoopi, who toasted stale political yuck-yucks like rock-hard marshmallows over a campfire, seemed intent on turning the evening into Comic Relief with fancy duds and an A-list audience. Don't get me wrong. There's nothing wrong with being funny, but it seemed to me that Whoopi was more interested in being outrageous than funny. Outrageous gets old fast. And the Oscars« are anything but fast.
And where would the Oscars« be without a pre-show by jewelry pitch-woman and self-appointed style-maven Joan Rivers, who neglected to ask James Coburn "Whose teeth are you wearing?"
Joan also intercepted songstress-in-white Celine Dion. In her mob-style hat and (I kid you not) backwards mens jacket, Celine looked like a saintly Edward G. Robinson - if Ed dressed in the dark, that is. Celine, this ain't the Raymond Chandler Pavilion, babe! Is Peter Lorre in the car with the goons and the dames?
Another Academy Awards«. Another chance for Black folks to hand out awards to White folks. Another opportunity to hear "Hooray for Hollywood" (a favorite of Ziegfeld girls everywhere) and to endure endless retrospective clips of B&W movies reminding us why we skip past the AMC channel on our way to MTV.
Another chance for LaLa Land to pimp new product by teaming Out of Towners co-stars Steve Martin and Goldie Hawn to present (they even walked the reception line together outside the theater. Coincidence? I think not!)
A chance...
- - To see Harrison Ford looking more and more like a fuddy-duddy mad-haired Albert Einstein.
- - To see Anne Heche's microphone go off-line during, of all things, the Science and Technology awards.
- - To hear Uma Thurman's strange new British accent (was she influenced by the large number of Her Majesty's nominees?)
- - To see the Debbie Allen-choreographed "Interpretive Dance" of the Saving Private Ryan score (that's what that movie needed, more dancing!).
- - To see a very pissed-looking Helen Hunt who, evidently, has much to be unhappy about. Lighten up, Helen! This is supposed to be fun!
- - To see a good old-fashioned Aerosmith smoke-and-fire show, including that thrilling moment when Steven Spielberg held his lighter aloft and Elia Kazan shouted "Give Peace a Chance!" By some miracle, Steven's lighter didn't ignite James Coburn's breath, although the LA Fire Department did have to spray Jim down to minimize the hazard.
But it ain't all bad.
Oscar« reminds us why we love Jim Carrey, whose faux tears over his non-nomination were hilarious in an understated way foreign to host Whoopi.
It reminds us to brace ourselves and carry Kleenex before we award the lovely and talented Gwyneth Paltrow.
It reminds us that as long as Roberto Benigni lives, life really will be beautiful (If you ask me, more winners should wish to "lie down in the firmament, making love to everybody").
It reminds us that while commerce matters most in Hollywood, it matters least on Oscar« night. Fashion aside, this is the one night where it really is about the work. Where we can celebrate art for its own sake, grosses be damned. Where we can congratulate entertainment's best for uplifting us, for thrilling us, for showing us a piece of ourselves, for - as Miramax's Harvey Weinstein put it - a reflection of life, art, and magic.
In his recent appearance In the Actors Studio, Best Director winner Spielberg was asked by host Jim Lipton what he would expect God to say on the day he reaches those pearly gates.
"Thanks for listening," answered Spielberg.
Thanks, indeed.
The winners:
Best Picture - Shakespeare in Love
Best Director - Steven Spielberg, Saving Private Ryan
Best Actress - Gwyneth Paltrow, Shakespeare in Love
Best Actor - Roberto Benigni, Life is Beautiful
Best Supporting Actress - Judi Dench, Shakespeare in Love
Best Supporting Actor - James Coburn, Affliction
Best Original Screenplay - Shakespeare in Love
Best Screenplay Adaptation - Gods and Monsters
(Oscar« and Academy Awards« are registered trademarks of A.M.P.A.S.)
Copyright 1999 Mark Ramsey. All rights reserved. NO PORTION MAY BE REPRODUCED WITHOUT THE EXPRESS WRITTEN PERMISSION OF THE AUTHOR.
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Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 08:39:57 -0800
From: "Bruce Bridges" <Bruce@ffww.com>
Subject: [MV] Kazan -Reply
I think that Kazan did something that showed a lack of courage and he =
probably deep inside wishes he had not. Everybody seems to want to make =
this a black and white issue but to me Kazan was placed in an awful =
position by HUAC and unfortunately he cracked. There were plenty of =
people supporting the soviets that made stupid choices but circumstances =
did not allow thier stupidity to ruin lives. That is the only difference. =
If the heroic left of hollywood had really wanted to take a stand they =
would have refused to work with the studios that participated in the black =
list until that evil was ended. I can't remember anybody doing that. =
That would have had a real impact. =20
For god's sake it was 50 years ago. Everybody that wants to express their =
hatred for the man has had every opportunity. The award was for his films =
and they are some of the greatest ever made. Lets move on. =20
BTW, I did not see any courage in those that chose not to stand or clap. =
Big whoop. =20
bb
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Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 10:49:01 -0600 (CST)
From: Christi Eilleen Falk <umfalkce@cc.UManitoba.CA>
Subject: Re: [MV] MovieJuice! - SPECIAL OSCAR EDITION
Best actress?????? Gwenyth Paltrow???????????
HELLO????????????????????????
Did anyone else see how undeserving she was in that category???
The woman(I can't remember her name) who was in that subtitled movie with the
orphan boy, now SHE deserved the oscar! THat was a fantastic performance, and
the transformation from unfeeling hateful woman, to protector of the boy brings
tears to the dryest of eyes. I can't believe she was robbed, all for a woman
who spoke in a british accent, and took off her shirt. Well, hollywood, you all
deserve her!
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Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 09:50:39 -0700
From: jkrudy <jkrudy@micron.com>
Subject: RE: [MV] Kazan -Reply
I totally agree with what you said here. People tend to forget that the
truly evil elements of a witch hunt are not those that are accused of being
witches, but the hunters themselves. If Kazan was selling secrets to the
Soviets that would have been something different all together, but he
wasn't. He was just another victim of the McCarthy era. If anybody is
going to burn in Hell it's McCarthy not Kazan. Those who showed there
protest by not applauding are the same people who would have thrown a log
onto the fire that killed the supposed "witches" of Salem. I think they're
weak, petty, and totally clueless and I hope they rot.
James K. Rudy
- -----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Bridges [mailto:Bruce@ffww.com]
Sent: Monday, March 22, 1999 9:40 AM
To: movies@lists.xmission.com
Subject: [MV] Kazan -Reply
I think that Kazan did something that showed a lack of courage and he
probably deep inside wishes he had not. Everybody seems to want to make
this a black and white issue but to me Kazan was placed in an awful position
by HUAC and unfortunately he cracked. There were plenty of people
supporting the soviets that made stupid choices but circumstances did not
allow thier stupidity to ruin lives. That is the only difference. If the
heroic left of hollywood had really wanted to take a stand they would have
refused to work with the studios that participated in the black list until
that evil was ended. I can't remember anybody doing that. That would have
had a real impact.
For god's sake it was 50 years ago. Everybody that wants to express their
hatred for the man has had every opportunity. The award was for his films
and they are some of the greatest ever made. Lets move on.
BTW, I did not see any courage in those that chose not to stand or clap.
Big whoop.
bb
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Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 09:57:40 -0700
From: jkrudy <jkrudy@micron.com>
Subject: RE: [MV] MovieJuice! - SPECIAL OSCAR EDITION
I haven't seen either movie, so I have no opinion of who should have won the
award, but from your sentence, "I can't believe she was robbed, all for a
woman who spoke in a british accent, and took off her shirt." I get the
feeling you think she shouldn't have won because she faked her accent
(although I understand she did it flawlessly) and because she lowered her
morals and showed off her breasts. I didn't realize that a person's morals
should be taken into account when judging their acting ability. That's
equivalent to judging somebody's driving ability based on what football team
they like. Now if you have something specific to criticize about Ms.
Paltrow's acting then that would truly be something worth reading.
James K. Rudy
- -----Original Message-----
From: Christi Eilleen Falk [mailto:umfalkce@cc.UManitoba.CA]
Sent: Monday, March 22, 1999 9:49 AM
To: movies@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [MV] MovieJuice! - SPECIAL OSCAR EDITION
Best actress?????? Gwenyth Paltrow???????????
HELLO????????????????????????
Did anyone else see how undeserving she was in that category???
The woman(I can't remember her name) who was in that subtitled movie with
the
orphan boy, now SHE deserved the oscar! THat was a fantastic performance,
and
the transformation from unfeeling hateful woman, to protector of the boy
brings
tears to the dryest of eyes. I can't believe she was robbed, all for a
woman
who spoke in a british accent, and took off her shirt. Well, hollywood, you
all
deserve her!
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Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 09:04:22 -0800
From: "Bruce Bridges" <Bruce@ffww.com>
Subject: RE: [MV] MovieJuice! - SPECIAL OSCAR EDITION -Reply
I would like to go on record as having enjoyed Ms. Paltrow's performance =
very much and in particular her breasts. I do not feel they diminished =
her screen presence in any way. =20
And her accent was fine. =20
bb
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Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 11:18:19 -0600 (CST)
From: Christi Eilleen Falk <umfalkce@cc.UManitoba.CA>
Subject: RE: [MV] MovieJuice! - SPECIAL OSCAR EDITION
What I am criticizing is the acting callibre. Basically hollywood was playing
the game, which of these things doesn't belong. While I'm sure MS Paltrow is a
wonderful actress in her own right, this piece she was nominated for was like
choosing Bill and Teds excellent adventure over Mrs Brown(or any other deep
provoking movie) .
Was shakespeare in Love a good movie, ofcourse. Did it depict the time
flawlessly, especially the accents, naturally, bravo. Did everyone, including
meryl streep deserve to loose because of this, no.
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Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 09:57:33 -0800
From: "Bruce Bridges" <Bruce@ffww.com>
Subject: RE: [MV] MovieJuice! - SPECIAL OSCAR EDITION -Reply
Please, don't ask me to cry for Ms. Streep. She has more oscars than her =
mantle will hold. =20
I don't think the best actor(ess) should have to depict deep suffering or =
dying or any other such anguish to deserve the award. =20
Shakespeare in Love was not deep granted, but it was one of the most witty =
and complex films I have seen. I didn't expect it to win best picture =
and thought Ryan was more deserving, but Shakespear was a great film. =20
bb
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Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 10:06:48 -0800
From: "Romero, Leticia" <lromero@saonet.ucla.edu>
Subject: RE: [MV] Kazan
It was THEIR opinion that Kazan's behavior in the 50's was inappropriate. I
feel that the tribute to him was fair and well done just the same.
