ftp.xmission.com/2014.06.ftp.xmission.com.tar/ftp.xmission.com/pub/lists/mobility/archive/v04.n657

Internet Message Format | 2002-01-02 | 22KB

From: [e-mail] (mobility-digest)
To: [e-mail]
Subject: mobility-digest V4 #657
Reply-To: mobility
Sender: [e-mail]
Errors-To: [e-mail]
Precedence: bulk
X-No-Archive: yes

mobility-digest       Thursday, January 3 2002       Volume 04 : Number 657



(mobility) moby vs. paul yates
Re: (mobility) moby vs. paul yates
(mobility) BT's album delayed due to some jerk(s)
(mobility) more about Chill Out

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 07:35:50 -0800 (PST)
From: Paul Simpson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) moby vs. paul yates

hey folks

sorry if this opens up a can o' worms or something,
but i found an interesting article about paul yates in
the fairfield county weekly (local free alternative
weekly paper) yesterday. i guess he lives in stamford
(where i go to school) so he's considered a local
artists :)

anyway, as you could imagine, it mentions moby a few
times.

the paper's website is down now, so i cant just link
the article or anything, so i'll have to type out the
relevant parts.

so basically it talks about his mother, and how he got
into art, and how he was a punk and everything, etc,
and the first time it mentions Moby:

"Yates' first film exploration into surrealism came 15
years ago in _Geranium_. Done almost entirely in black
and white, Geranium features Yates and the nor
world-famous DJ Moby in a series of patched-together
clips. They sit at a bar, alcohol is poured, they are
in a field with one in ghost attire, one is falling
over, one is spitting up liquid, there are legs in a
tree and one is on the ground with a rope pulling the
other down. Behind the dreamlike sequence, music
plays, haunting and eerie behind this rotating, dreary
world. The film clearly grapples with alcoholism, with
despair and with death and with failed hope--all
captured simply in repeating images and objects."

later:
"Yates has managed to step outside his own life just
enough that he can capture its human essence without
losing his emotional attachment. After Yates lost four
friends in three separate drowning incidents in the
early '90s, he incorporated water into his works. A
fast-moving video for Moby entitled "Hymn" shows city
streets and bubbling water rising around the rapidly
twisting DJ. Yates' surrealist senior thesis film
called _Space Water Onion_ involves futuristic
crewmembers trapped on an uninhabited planet. In the
black-and-white film, one member returns acting
strangely and they kill him. The female member awakens
on a spacecraft with the two remaining men, all in
white suits, and they learn that the life-support
system is down. It is filling the ship with water
instead of oxygen and they must resolve themselves to
approaching death. The three dance, bobbing slowly. In
a poignant, beautiful moment, their faces hover above
the water line, serene. Undernearth, subtitles read,
"We have found grace." [i'm assuming that's where the
Moby song "Grace" is played? ;) ] Then, they are
swimming. The film not only allowed Yates to graduate
but also won him awards at the Hamburg Hiroshima Film
Festival and the Onion City Film Festival in Chicago.
As he's placed distance between himself and his past,
Yates has allowed his less serious self to develop.
His close friendship with Moby throughout his turmoil
offered him the opportunity to tour worldwide with the
DJ as his cinematograper. Yates' film for the
documentary _Modulations_, the first definitive
history of electronic music, showed his comfort within
many factions of the cultural underworld.
'The electronic/rave scene was the second-coming of
the punk rock movement,' said Yates. 'No specific
dress code, almost no drugs initially, dancing for
eleven hours...you achieved a different state of
consciousness.'
Even through Moby's sell-out express ride to fame
(licensing all songs on _Play_ for commercial use and
appearing on MTV's _Cribs_), Yates and he remained
close. Moby appears in nearly all of Yates' films and
music ventures.

Then came _Porno_. This is the latest feature-length
film that Yates has written, directed and shot, and,
unlike past projects, it's a comedy. [Huh? Spin
magazine wrote a little blurb about this in 1997 or
so! oh well...] _Porno_ isn't even that heavy on the
nudity. The film is set in a porn store on Christmas
Eve and examines all the characters that pass through
its doors. Porn star Dyanna Lauren, whom Yates is also
documenting, sings in the film with a goofy-looking
Moby playing guitar behind her while wearing two
dildos strapped to his head. Over the year that the
film was shot, however, Moby's fame grew and he wanted
out of the _Clerks_-like comedy, afraid it would
smudge his now sacred-image. Yates balked.
'I said, 'Moby, this film doesn't hurt you. No one's
going to see it anyway. They don't know who you are,
by the way. You're not that famous. No one's going to
think, 'He wears dildos on his head in this comedy,
I'm not going to buy his records.' If anything, it's
going to help you.''
The film was made legally with a producer and, as the
rift between them grew, Yates refused to cut Moby from
_Porno_. At the time, Moby was using the value of
Moby-related items on Ebay as a gauge of his
popularity. Yates sold Moby's eternal soul through the
online auction; bidding started at 5 cents. The
auction closed at $41.
_Porno_ has already been shown to positive reviews at
the Silver Lake Film Festival in Los Angeles and the
former sex high-rise Showworld in Manhattan's former
Times Square. In February, the film will be shown as
part of the Director's View Film Festival in Stamford.
Needless to say, _Porno_ is not going away and Yates
is seeking a distributor. Early in 2002, Yates also
plans to release the music he made two years back with
his punk band, the Pork Guys, featuring Moby on drums
and his friend Tarquin [Katis, of Zambonis and
Philistines Jr. fame] on bass. With songs like
"Seven-Inch Sellout", the album will be called _If You
Don't Masturbate You're An Idiot_. [YES!!! I can not
wait for this :) ] His newest film work runs the gamut
from, as he says, "a dance-song with bizarro finger
puppets set to the original tune "Hey Moby!"
[uh-oh...] to another full-length film, which he
recently dropped off at Miramax called _Ravers_. In
_Ravers_ all the characters take drugs which do not
cause inebriation but, instead, induce multiple
effects like seeing in slow-motion or crossed
sensations (a character might touch something hot, for
instance, and taste something like peaches). Only one
drug, called God, is detrimental. For three days, the
characters are completely high, but they know that in
10 years they will die. Still, they take God."


well, anyway, there ya go. kind of a shame that their
friendship had to dissolve over this dumb movie. I
kinda agree with Paul tho, i mean, nobody's gonna care
about this movie. is anyone gonna care about the Pork
Guys album (which i really really hope actually comes
out)? there's lots of stuff about Moby that most
people don't know, or care about. i've never heard
anyone here talk about the last Philistines Jr album
here, which Moby contributes about 5 seconds of music
to ;)

but anyway, yeah. that's whats up.

this is the most i've posted to Mobility in about 3
years ;)

ROCK!
np: Avalanches "Frontier Psychiatrist" (on kexp.org)

=====
"In a box under a record I never played, are 32 hand-painted hand grenades, as my mind gets blown into the fishtank...
Let's hold hands and wait for an earthquake." The Gr8 Spacecoaster
ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PAUL, host of Chester's Blanket Fort, 89.5 FM/wpkn.org

__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Send your FREE holiday greetings online!
http://greetings.yahoo.com

- -------------
To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [e-mail]
with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 13:26:09 -0500 (EST)
From: mark <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby vs. paul yates

oi there mobilites,
a couple notes i'd like to make about this (oh stop panicing)...
no need to 'uh-oh' over "hey moby", it's called that 'cause of a sample in
it of someone going "hey moby". there's rumors *cough* that a remix of it
by moby may be getting released, in fact.
and thumbs if the pork guys album finally gets released. check out
oniongod.com's pictures section for the "if you don't nasturbate, you're
an idiot" photobooth sheet.
and porno rocks, and i think it should of had distrobution by last year,
and that would of made much better xmas fare on the indipendant film
channel than a few hours of spalding gray (nothing personal toward's him,
he's just not exactly 'holiday festive' ("peter, yer the spalding gray of
crap!"))
maybe i should wire up the vcr and put geranium up on oniongod.com.
it's fairly cool. we'll see...
and i'll say this fer 'moby vs. paul yates', when moby says "i want my
music online" he apparently doesn't have any legal ground, 'cause he
doesn't seem to own most or all of it, and he doesn't exactly stand up to
his management or anything about the point. that's made running a moby
site a much more painful experience than running a paul yates site lately.
and paul writes warmer emails than moby these days (to me at least).
so, um, yeah, that's my 2 cents, yay paul yates.
and while we're at it, yay paul simpson.
cheers,
    -mark (admin, oniongod.com & mobymusic.com & some other stuff)

On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, Paul Simpson wrote:
> hey folks
>
> sorry if this opens up a can o' worms or something,
> but i found an interesting article about paul yates in
> the fairfield county weekly (local free alternative
> weekly paper) yesterday. i guess he lives in stamford
> (where i go to school) so he's considered a local
> artists :)
>
> anyway, as you could imagine, it mentions moby a few
> times.
>
> the paper's website is down now, so i cant just link
> the article or anything, so i'll have to type out the
> relevant parts.
>
> so basically it talks about his mother, and how he got
> into art, and how he was a punk and everything, etc,
> and the first time it mentions Moby:
>
> "Yates' first film exploration into surrealism came 15
> years ago in _Geranium_. Done almost entirely in black
> and white, Geranium features Yates and the nor
> world-famous DJ Moby in a series of patched-together
> clips. They sit at a bar, alcohol is poured, they are
> in a field with one in ghost attire, one is falling
> over, one is spitting up liquid, there are legs in a
> tree and one is on the ground with a rope pulling the
> other down. Behind the dreamlike sequence, music
> plays, haunting and eerie behind this rotating, dreary
> world. The film clearly grapples with alcoholism, with
> despair and with death and with failed hope--all
> captured simply in repeating images and objects."
>
> later:
> "Yates has managed to step outside his own life just
> enough that he can capture its human essence without
> losing his emotional attachment. After Yates lost four
> friends in three separate drowning incidents in the
> early '90s, he incorporated water into his works. A
> fast-moving video for Moby entitled "Hymn" shows city
> streets and bubbling water rising around the rapidly
> twisting DJ. Yates' surrealist senior thesis film
> called _Space Water Onion_ involves futuristic
> crewmembers trapped on an uninhabited planet. In the
> black-and-white film, one member returns acting
> strangely and they kill him. The female member awakens
> on a spacecraft with the two remaining men, all in
> white suits, and they learn that the life-support
> system is down. It is filling the ship with water
> instead of oxygen and they must resolve themselves to
> approaching death. The three dance, bobbing slowly. In
> a poignant, beautiful moment, their faces hover above
> the water line, serene. Undernearth, subtitles read,
> "We have found grace." [i'm assuming that's where the
> Moby song "Grace" is played? ;) ] Then, they are
> swimming. The film not only allowed Yates to graduate
> but also won him awards at the Hamburg Hiroshima Film
> Festival and the Onion City Film Festival in Chicago.
> As he's placed distance between himself and his past,
> Yates has allowed his less serious self to develop.
> His close friendship with Moby throughout his turmoil
> offered him the opportunity to tour worldwide with the
> DJ as his cinematograper. Yates' film for the
> documentary _Modulations_, the first definitive
> history of electronic music, showed his comfort within
> many factions of the cultural underworld.
> 'The electronic/rave scene was the second-coming of
> the punk rock movement,' said Yates. 'No specific
> dress code, almost no drugs initially, dancing for
> eleven hours...you achieved a different state of
> consciousness.'
> Even through Moby's sell-out express ride to fame
> (licensing all songs on _Play_ for commercial use and
> appearing on MTV's _Cribs_), Yates and he remained
> close. Moby appears in nearly all of Yates' films and
> music ventures.
>
> Then came _Porno_. This is the latest feature-length
> film that Yates has written, directed and shot, and,
> unlike past projects, it's a comedy. [Huh? Spin
> magazine wrote a little blurb about this in 1997 or
> so! oh well...] _Porno_ isn't even that heavy on the
> nudity. The film is set in a porn store on Christmas
> Eve and examines all the characters that pass through
> its doors. Porn star Dyanna Lauren, whom Yates is also
> documenting, sings in the film with a goofy-looking
> Moby playing guitar behind her while wearing two
> dildos strapped to his head. Over the year that the
> film was shot, however, Moby's fame grew and he wanted
> out of the _Clerks_-like comedy, afraid it would
> smudge his now sacred-image. Yates balked.
> 'I said, 'Moby, this film doesn't hurt you. No one's
> going to see it anyway. They don't know who you are,
> by the way. You're not that famous. No one's going to
> think, 'He wears dildos on his head in this comedy,
> I'm not going to buy his records.' If anything, it's
> going to help you.''
> The film was made legally with a producer and, as the
> rift between them grew, Yates refused to cut Moby from
> _Porno_. At the time, Moby was using the value of
> Moby-related items on Ebay as a gauge of his
> popularity. Yates sold Moby's eternal soul through the
> online auction; bidding started at 5 cents. The
> auction closed at $41.
> _Porno_ has already been shown to positive reviews at
> the Silver Lake Film Festival in Los Angeles and the
> former sex high-rise Showworld in Manhattan's former
> Times Square. In February, the film will be shown as
> part of the Director's View Film Festival in Stamford.
> Needless to say, _Porno_ is not going away and Yates
> is seeking a distributor. Early in 2002, Yates also
> plans to release the music he made two years back with
> his punk band, the Pork Guys, featuring Moby on drums
> and his friend Tarquin [Katis, of Zambonis and
> Philistines Jr. fame] on bass. With songs like
> "Seven-Inch Sellout", the album will be called _If You
> Don't Masturbate You're An Idiot_. [YES!!! I can not
> wait for this :) ] His newest film work runs the gamut
> from, as he says, "a dance-song with bizarro finger
> puppets set to the original tune "Hey Moby!"
> [uh-oh...] to another full-length film, which he
> recently dropped off at Miramax called _Ravers_. In
> _Ravers_ all the characters take drugs which do not
> cause inebriation but, instead, induce multiple
> effects like seeing in slow-motion or crossed
> sensations (a character might touch something hot, for
> instance, and taste something like peaches). Only one
> drug, called God, is detrimental. For three days, the
> characters are completely high, but they know that in
> 10 years they will die. Still, they take God."
>
>
> well, anyway, there ya go. kind of a shame that their
> friendship had to dissolve over this dumb movie. I
> kinda agree with Paul tho, i mean, nobody's gonna care
> about this movie. is anyone gonna care about the Pork
> Guys album (which i really really hope actually comes
> out)? there's lots of stuff about Moby that most
> people don't know, or care about. i've never heard
> anyone here talk about the last Philistines Jr album
> here, which Moby contributes about 5 seconds of music
> to ;)
>
> but anyway, yeah. that's whats up.
>
> this is the most i've posted to Mobility in about 3
> years ;)
>
> ROCK!
> np: Avalanches "Frontier Psychiatrist" (on kexp.org)
>
> =====
> "In a box under a record I never played, are 32 hand-painted hand grenades, as my mind gets blown into the fishtank...
> Let's hold hands and wait for an earthquake." The Gr8 Spacecoaster
> ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> PAUL, host of Chester's Blanket Fort, 89.5 FM/wpkn.org
>
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Send your FREE holiday greetings online!
> http://greetings.yahoo.com
>
> -------------
> To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [e-mail]
> with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body.
>

- --
 ...........................................................................
< mark.lsds.com/  mobymusic.com/  oniongod.com/  phonicoid.com/  2tone.com/ >
 `````````````````````````````````````^'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''



- -------------
To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [e-mail]
with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 11:11:25 -0800 (PST)
From: Arcya Self <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) BT's album delayed due to some jerk(s)

This is from rollingstone.com and it just plain sucks
all over:

- -----------------------------------------
BT's Los Angeles studio was robbed while he was in
London for the holidays. The perpetrators made off
with not only expensive recording and computer
equipment but also tracks the producer/DJ had recorded
for his upcoming fourth album and follow-up to 2000's
widely acclaimed "Movement in Still Life." Among the
missing material is BT's recent collaboration with
PETER GABRIEL. Any information about the crime should
be sent to

[e-mail]
- ------------------------------------------

It didn't hit me until 15 minutes before the New
Year's countdown that it would no longer be 2001.
That is scary as hell.  Post-2001.  At midnight I just
stared at my "2001-a Space Odyssey" poster & felt like
weeping...and wondered when we're all finally gonna
get our cool-ass spacesuits.

So you shave your own face with some mace in the dark,
malfunctiongirl

__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Send your FREE holiday greetings online!
http://greetings.yahoo.com

- -------------
To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [e-mail]
with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 20:28:45 +0100
From: "Ulrik Brandt" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) more about Chill Out

Also according to www.allmusic.com moby is a "performer" on KLF's Chill
Out.

The credit-list , which can be found at
http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=A2sd7gjirj6ip , say:

The KLF  -  Performer, Compilation
Acker Bilk  -  Compilation Producer
Meat Beat Manifesto  -  Performer
Moby  -  Performer
Jo Bogaert  -  Performer
Sine  -  Performer
Young American Primitive  -  Performer
Cosmic Baby  -  Performer
Jimi Cauty  -  Compilation, Compilation Producer
Human Mesh Dance  -  Performer
Irresistible Force  -  Performer
Omicron  -  Performer
Evolve Now  -  Performer
Michael Kandel  -  Performer
Air Liquide  -  Performer
Moonwater  -  Performer
Earth to Infinity  -  Performer
Modulate  -  Performer
Symetrics  -  Performer
Rising Sun  -  Performer
Bill Drummond  -  Compilation, Compilation Producer
Davies  -  Compilation
Jerry H. Bilik  -  Compilation
P. Green  -  Compilation, Compilation Producer

I wonder where this info originally comes from. the artist featured(and
credited) on the UK-version (which was slightly edited for the US-release)
is Jesus Loves You, Acker Bilk, Fleetwood Mack, Nick Coler, Evil Graham Lee
and Elvis (and of ourse the KLF). A sample which also is featured in Pink
Floyd's "on the run" is in the track Madrudaga Eterna, but should actually
be from an old BBC record (both Pink and KLF stole it from this source).
My theory is that the info on KLF's Chill Out once where mixed up with
another 'Chill Out'-album, and this wrong info still is circulating the net
 (maybe because of the wrong info at allmusic)

BTW: I don't know many of the people mentioned on www.allmusic.com, but I'm
sure that neither Moby, Irresteble Force(mixmaster morris) or Jo Bogart
(technotronic) is featured on the album.  Actually The KLF never worked
with(or sampled) any of these artist on their official releases (they could
be sampled on some af the unreleased chillout-sessions they did with The
Orb, but not as far as I know).

Ulrik

- -------------------------------------------------
 Salsa Claus is Coming to Town
- -------------------------------------------------



- -------------
To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [e-mail]
with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body.

------------------------------

End of mobility-digest V4 #657
******************************

-------------
To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [e-mail]
with the line "unsubscribe mobility-digest" in the body.