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From: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com (mobility-digest)
To: mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com
Subject: mobility-digest V3 #72
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mobility-digest Friday, January 7 2000 Volume 03 : Number 072
(mobility) beernut bobsled/m2 etc.
Re: (mobility) let's play meet the newbie!
Re: (mobility) Is Moby gay?
Re: (mobility) Is Moby gay?
(mobility) zeppelin/moby/drug rant/etc
(mobility) Vegas Odds On the Grammies
(mobility) Moby in Mixer!
(mobility) Moby in Urb magazine!
Re: (mobility) Re: OT Compiliations
Re: (mobility) moby nominated for grammy!
Re: (mobility) Vegas Odds On the Grammies
Re: (mobility) Re: OT Compiliations
(mobility) Moby news (very cute quotes)
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Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 12:25:57 -0800 (PST)
From: Hotel Detective Phizzo Jobson <techno_gpig@yahoo.com>
Subject: (mobility) beernut bobsled/m2 etc.
that beernut bobsled shit is way funny! cool!
ok, M2 is playing EVERY VIDEO AIRED ON M2 AND MTV
EVER, in ABC order, of songs, started new years day,
for the next 3 months or so. so if u get M2, look for
every Moby video and watch them. cool. btw, M2 plays
ALL MUSIC, no commercials even. except like no cable
channels get it, only satelites :(
also, Sifl and olly WILL be back on. i dont have time
to explain, go to sockheads.com, or siflandolly.com,
or clubs.yahoo.com and then to the club "Planet Of
Sound" and check my post about it.
k bye!
=====
Even MTV BIGWIGS have heart attacks!!!!!
SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON!
ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT!
feedback@mtv.com
Hotel Detective PHIZZO JOBSON from The Ministry of 'Ousinje
(aka >>>>>PAUL<<<<<)
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Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 22:06:25 +0100
From: "Bart van Eijck" <eijck@IAE.nl>
Subject: Re: (mobility) let's play meet the newbie!
Sven Lauwers wrote:
>* What is in your Moby collection
>- I am a mix collector, not a collector of the medium, only few official
>mixes are missing, mostly the hard to get German remixes and others
>offcourse, but eventually I will all buy and have them.... one day
Only a few mixes missing? Hey Sven, could you mail me a txt file with
your collection once, I'm interested to see what you have...
>So is the double UK promo of James bond theme
The double PROMO or the regular 2x12"? I think I'll order the regular
JBT single 12" next week, I still don't have the LSG Remix
>And I just ordered
>the L12 of WDMHFSB, because it contains a different version on vynil
Is that so? Are you referring to the Subsonic Legacy Mix or the Original
Version? I'm not 100% sure about the times of these two, when you get
it could you please check if the subs. remix is the same long version as
on the 2nd promo 12" and if the Original Version is the same as on Play?
THANXXXX
Sorry to bother Mobility with the above...
Oh, yes I can really recommend those Zillion CDs if you're into trance and
electronic music. But I think it will be tuff to find them in the States as
I seldom
see them here in Holland (only at one record store that has a special
Belgian
import section...)
Bart: "I think I'm in love with Trinity from The Matrix"
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Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 16:25:43 EST
From: Kietra28@aol.com
Subject: Re: (mobility) Is Moby gay?
I totally agree with you jason...i think everyone is bisexual as well,
although most are not in agreement.
by the way, i'm amy, new to this list. I am a student in chicago, and am in
love with moby. i'm also very fond of atari teenage riot, belle and
sebastian, nin, tori amos, bt, depeche mode, mojave 3, red house painters,
low, dead can dance, and morrissey, along with one of my favorites...the
flaming lips.
just wanted to say hello to everyone out there.
~amy
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Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 16:34:52 EST
From: DDscorpi16@aol.com
Subject: Re: (mobility) Is Moby gay?
yeah i agree with the everyone is bisexual thing to, i really
cant wait for NIN to start their us tour if anyone knows anything
about that fill me in along with any info on moby appearances
in FL. hey has anyone seen atari teenage riot?, i heard they suck
live, wondering if thats true, thanx
~=DAMIAN=~
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Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 16:39:29 -0500 (EST)
From: mark <mark@lsds.com>
Subject: (mobility) zeppelin/moby/drug rant/etc
> which Zep song should Moby do? good question. but i'll
> not suggest an answer. you do that.
actually, moby origionally wrote bodyrock with the riff from "whole lotta
love", but his lawyer advised that he could be sued, so he wrote his own
riff for it, and thus the version on play was born.
this is as per moby himself in a concert i have from 11/28/99 where they
jam on the led zep riff fer a mear 20 seconds, but nonetheless.
does anyone happen to know the root of the vocal lines on it? i'm thinking
the verse sounds quite a bit mc lyte circa 1995...
<rant>
...and as per that whole "this is your raver, this is your raver on drugs"
strain of conversation, i myself am a straightedge musician with a techno
album out, and the multimedia on it's got some trippy shit which is prolly
great fodder fer acidheads, but a strong mind is sufficient enough. the
over-presence of drugs in the music scene nauseates me, and tho it's
hardly just a presense in rave/techno/electronica circuits, it's an
especially strong one. it seems that these scenes rarely build up without
that distinct undercurrent, tho it's the drugs that often eat away at the
foundation of a scene. i feel that a lot of it is a matter of what drugs
and how much control people have, like the outbreak of k in albany is one
i experienced periferally back in '95. fer goodness sake, it's horse
tranqualizers. that's something made to knock out a huge animal. if you
have a drug habit make sure you control it, not vice-versa. and if it
controls you, change that.
okay, i'll shut up about this now.
</rant>
*giggles at moby playing jazz-samba version of "feeling so real" in the
aforementioned concert* gotta love him.
keep moving,
-mark
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Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 19:54:50 -0600
From: "Brad Caviness" <bigwig@arkansas.net>
Subject: (mobility) Vegas Odds On the Grammies
Hey Gang.
Being that in my spare time I'm an avocational music journalist and
part-time music industry bigwig, I can't resist the urge to comment on the
Grammy nominations that were announced yesterday, or at least one category
in particular. Namely, Best Alternative Music Performance.
Over all, the Grammies this year are weird. It's like they're, I don't know,
what's the word... relevant. Ever since Jethro Tull won the Grammy for Best
Metal several years ago, NARAS has been trying to recover from the
(justifiable) image that it is a bunch of accountants who don't actually
listen to the music in the categories they're voting on. Even in the
categories that represent music I don't fully appreciate, it's hard to argue
with the Academy's choices. Sure, I probably would've nominated Sixpence
None the Richer's "Kiss Me" for Record and/or Song of the Year (It was R&R's
most played song for 1999) as well as Best Pop Performance with Vocal (Duo
or Group), but I guess they didn't have the record sales to qualify for
those nominations, and I'm blatantly biased towards that group.
Anyway, the nominees for Best Alternative Music Performance (Album), with
commentary on odds for winning, are (in order of what I think is each
record's likelihood to win):
The Fragile, Nine Inch Nails [Nothing/Interscope Records]
This nomination reminds me of the nod U2 received in 1994 for "Zooropa." An
established artist with an enormously popular recording that almost
certainly deserves nomination in the Rock and general categories being
pushed into alternative. Of course, that did give Bono the opportunity to
say "Fuck up the mainstream" on live TV to the whole world before he became
the first man to make Frank Sinatra cry, so it wasn't all bad. "The Fragile"
is a wild critical and commercial success. It looks like the odds-on
favorite, unless because of it's relative newness, the more conservative
voting body of NARAS isn't fully aware of the record.
Mutations, Beck [DGC Records]
The industry hacks that vote on the Grammies won't care that "Mutations" is
supposed to be a throw away record from Beck. It's old enough even the
codgers in the industry are familiar with it, the singles are infectious,
and the record has great staying power, with both the critics and fans, so
the biggest thing going against it is the release of Beck's new record,
which everyone seems to like better.
Play, Moby [V2 Records]
Play has been critical favorite for most of the last year, and its
commercial success is building. So, I'm not automatically discounting our
boy like I would have this summer. The voting members can't help but be
aware of the record. Play has been all over the industry, and is probably
the most talked-about record of the year. Unlike the rest of the artists on
this list (with the possible exception of Fatboy Slim) Moby is a rising
star, whereas the others are fairly well established, at least at radio and
retail. Yet, V2 is an indie label, so it will be difficult to get around
Atlantic, Geffen and Interscope's block voting. But Moby is an industry
favorite, and this nomination almost seems like a push to make him better
known. So, I'm giving Moby the official underdog vote.
To Venus And Back, Tori Amos [Atlantic Records]
Like NIN's "The Fragile", the relative newness of this release will hurt
it's chances at the ballot box. Tori's a critical favorite, and this record
is phenomenal. But, like Moby, Tori is a slow-building artist, commercially,
and this record just probably doesn't have the awareness at that level to
give it the votes it needs.
You've Come A Long Way, Baby, Fatboy Slim [Astralwerks]
Overexposed, overplayed, utterly disposable trend-oriented music with no
staying power. In most instances, a Grammy shoe-in. But I think the
competition will get the better of Fatboy Slim.
Like I said, this is a strange year for the Grammies. All of these records
are certainly worthy of the award. Which is a strange occurance. Usually,
there's at least one "What the hell?" nomination that doesn't make any sense
at all. Maybe Moby is that nomination this year, and we're the only ones it
makes sense to. Tune in February 23 to see who wins.
Bradley S. Caviness, Bigwig
Bigwig Enterprises
bigwig@arkansas.net
"I've often wondered how someone could put a critique of music into words.
And I've often wondered why there was no musical commentary on writing."
- Dr. Peter Kreeft, author
"The early bird gets the worm. But the second mouse gets the cheese."
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Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 21:29:48 EST
From: MCJCREW@aol.com
Subject: (mobility) Moby in Mixer!
Hello all!
Well Moby is once again listed in Mixer and at # 3 as one of the top 20
albums of the year chosen by mixer's editors! Just wanted to let you guys
know!
Marisa
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Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 21:37:33 EST
From: MCJCREW@aol.com
Subject: (mobility) Moby in Urb magazine!
Hi again folks!
There is a little piece about a comment made by Moby in regards to the
Coachella festival! (with a pic of the man himself)
This is what it says for those who are interested:
"I have to say that after nine years of playing European and American
festivals, I think that Coachella was the nicest festival that I've ever been
a part of. The lineup was interesting and wonderful, the location was
perfect, the weather was perfect, etc. It's the first time that I've played
a festival and I can't find anything to complain about. It could become an
American Glastonbury but without the cold, the rain, the mud and the awful
Britpop bands. I'm especially pleased that the organizers didn't load up the
festival with angry, macho rock bands. From my perspective, that's what
ruined Woodstock -too many angry, testorone-driven rock bands." ---Moby
He is just so wonderful! Don't you all agree?!!
Cheers,
Marisa
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Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 19:36:47 -0500
From: "Mike A7" <mikea7@provide.net>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: OT Compiliations
Insrtbrain@aol.com
> What I'm really
> starting to hate is s/t with a great track by a band and that's all they
ever
> do, like Magnificent Bastard's "Mocking Bird Girl" on the Tank Girl s/t
and
> Dusted's "Deeper River" on the LIfe Less Ordinary s/t. That's
frustrating.
Well. technically, all Dusted was was another name for Faithless. The track
was done by Rollo, Sister Bliss and Jamie Catto, all of Faithless. It was
Faithless minus Maxi Jazz. And everyone else who contributed to that
record, the vocalist Pauline Taylor for instance, all contribute to
Faithless and Cheeky Records releases anyways.
So Dusted was just another way for Rollo to get a new track out there
without having to use the Faithless or Rollo Goes.... name.
MikeA
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Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 02:22:02 PST
From: "Matt Scott" <hellraiser990@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby nominated for grammy!
fuck
>From: kimbalina <kimbalina@earthlink.net>
>Reply-To: mobility@lists.xmission.com
>To: mobility@lists.xmission.com
>Subject: Re: (mobility) moby nominated for grammy!
>Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 15:11:34 -0700
>
>Sarasohn1@aol.com wrote:
>
> > >our dear moby has been nominated twice for a grammy!!! one is "best
>rock
> > >instrumental performance" for bodyrock and the other is "best
>alternative
> > >album" for play. im super happy for moby! hope he wins!
> >
>
>"Best Rock intrumental Performance"? How'd they get that? And "Best
>Alternative Album" oh, MOBY is *sooo* alternative. Gee, does "Alternative"
>still exist? The lines have become so blured. Grunge used to be
>alternative, then it was pop rock, then it was rock that no one can really
>define, then it all went down the tubes with Boy Bands and Britt. Spears
>lookalikes and now those wanna be "R&B" ppl are known as "Pop". I'm sooo
>confused. Now there's the rap/rock bands and all those wussy heavy metal
>bands. Where's my "Grunge"? I'm feeling so disgruntled. :-) I may have
>to
>shoot innocent radio's and tv's.
>
>--kimby
>
>
>
fuck moby so sux shit infact bodyrock is one of the worst songs ever ri10
phil colins rules and he should be getting the fucking grammy
lots of hate and bad dreams THE DEVIL
ha hahahahahahaahahahahahaahahahahahaha
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Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 11:19:33 EST
From: Insrtbrain@aol.com
Subject: Re: (mobility) Vegas Odds On the Grammies
In a message dated 01/06/2000 5:57:13 PM Pacific Standard Time,
bigwig@arkansas.net writes:
<< Usually,
there's at least one "What the hell?" nomination that doesn't make any sense
at all. Maybe Moby is that nomination this year, and we're the only ones it
makes sense to. Tune in February 23 to see who wins. >>
I think Fatboy Slim is the What the Hell? record... But that's going on a
talent basis and not record sales... When I first got it, I loved it.. It
was cool.. but after being bombared with it every where I went it got old..
Winning MTV awards is okay.. its understandable.. but not the Grammy's.
They're supposed to be somewhat serious.
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Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 11:23:22 EST
From: Insrtbrain@aol.com
Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: OT Compiliations
In a message dated 01/06/2000 8:58:58 PM Pacific Standard Time,
mikea7@provide.net writes:
<< Well. technically, all Dusted was was another name for Faithless. The track
was done by Rollo, Sister Bliss and Jamie Catto, all of Faithless. It was
Faithless minus Maxi Jazz. And everyone else who contributed to that
record, the vocalist Pauline Taylor for instance, all contribute to
Faithless and Cheeky Records releases anyways.
So Dusted was just another way for Rollo to get a new track out there
without having to use the Faithless or Rollo Goes.... name. >>
May I say I love you? Thank you so much for that information... I've been
spending months trying to find out about who did that track because I adore
it..... You're my hero. =)
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Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 11:48:28 EST
From: Insrtbrain@aol.com
Subject: (mobility) Moby news (very cute quotes)
Moby To Contribute To John Waters Film
Jan 6, 2000, 10:25 am PT
Moby
Moby's people have been on a licensing frenzy lately. He has music in such
movies as Any Given Sunday, Play It to the Bone, The Beach, as well as
upcoming Madonna and Julia Roberts films, and the upcoming wacky treat from
one of his personal favorites -- John Waters.
Moby tells allstar that he was initially up for scoring the movie, but his
touring and recording schedule didn't allow time for that. "I've put a
self-imposed moratorium on all outside work, but I really wanted to do the
John Waters film. I've been a fan since Pink Flamingos, so I'm going to maybe
write the music in the opening credits," he says.
The film is Cecil B. Demented, which was written and directed by the man who
also brought us Pecker, Cry Baby, and Hairspray and stars Stephen Dorff as
Cecil. Also in the film are Melanie Griffith, Patty Hearst, and Ricki Lake,
among others. Moby describes the film as "subversive," and the plot summary
on the Internet Movie Database says it's about "a lunatic indie-film director
and his renegade group of teenage filmmakers kidnap an A-list Hollywood
actress and force her to star in their underground film."
Moby says he plans to work on the music for Cecil B. Demented after his
European tour, which wraps up in late February. He's not sure yet if his
contribution will be an instrumental piece, or a "song" song, or a
combination of the two.
With all the soundtrack work, one would think the next step would be to land
a good cameo spot in one of the films, but getting in front of the camera
isn't exactly on his agenda. "You know, I always liked Black Flag, but Henry
Rollins acting ... I think he should stick to writing. I remember seeing him
in the Lost Highway movie, and, oofff.
"I don't know why musicians don't push themselves like into marine biology or
chess champions or something. Musicians want to act," he continues. "There
are so many out-of-work actors in the world, I would feel guilty taking a
role away from some starving actor in California that would kill to have a
little spot, but instead they give it to a musician who doesn't need the
money or the exposure."
It's usually worse when actors try to be musicians, like Kevin Bacon or
Johnny Depp, don't you think? "But, sometimes when actors try to sing, it's
awful, but desperately wonderful. Like William Shatner's records or Lorne
Greene's record. So, I encourage actors to make records because they're
usually so terrible they become little pop culture nuggets."
In addition to movies, Moby's music has made its way into mainstream
television as well, as his Grammy-nominated "Bodyrock" (allstar, Jan. 5) is
now the theme song for the NBC sitcom Veronica's Closet, starring Kirstie
Alley. Moby says he hasn't even seen the show, but he's fine with the
licensing decisions his label has made. "We have a good relationship, so if
it makes them happy ..."
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