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mobility-digest       Thursday, October 7 1999       Volume 02 : Number 151



Re: (mobility) moby webcast
Re: (mobility) Non Conformity? (NMR)
(mobility) concert date?
(mobility) moby on tv
Re: (mobility) Non Conformity?..AND MOBY!
(mobility) Non Conformity and the Moby God
(mobility) runon
Re: (mobility) concert date?
Re: (mobility) moby on tv
Re: (mobility) moby on tv
(mobility) thoughts on WHAT LOVE
(mobility) Funny whirring noise
(mobility) taping Moby on the Idiot Tube...
Re: (mobility) Funny whirring noise
Re: (mobility) taping Moby on the Idiot Tube...
Re: (mobility) Hello!!
(mobility) Unrelated...Dawson's Creek..Nothing to see here
(mobility) MOBY/PEARL JAM...ALBUMS OF ALL TIME...
Re: (mobility) Unrelated...Dawson's Creek..Nothing to see her
(mobility) Engage
RE: (mobility) Engage

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Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 19:32:29 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby webcast

hey

i'm sorry about that typo. (rollingstone.com)
i don't know what happened about moby not being listed there, but go to
channelseek.com -- they're responsible for doing the webcast.
i'm pretty sure they have him listed.

- -tina
[e-mail]   |   djcake.cjb.net
"I feel driven to make beautiful, emotional music... or sexy music.  I feel
driven to make music that's effective.  I feel driven to try to understand
things better.  I feel driven to connect with people... to communicate with
them." -Moby

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Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 19:34:23 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Non Conformity? (NMR)

I think there are too many levels of comformity going all at once, no matter
what social group or class or age or gender or belief you are a part of.  So
I think it's inescapable.  There's the vision of the wife & 2.3 kids and the
fence and all that as being a way to comform, but who does that and sticks to
it?  With the gay/lesbian population, divorce rate etc etc, not many.  The
norm (and maybe the way to comform now) is something else, actually many
different choices.  So either way you chose, you're gonna comform to
something.  And the same goes for the example of the poor people having no
choice but to comform.  I was poor all during my childhood.  I was totally
non-comformist to all the rich kids who were comforming to the trends (like I
wanted to be at the time), but I comformed to the other poorer kids and their
views and preferences.

I agree that the best thing to do for yourself, and the toughest is to
believe what you believe, all the while knowing why you do whether it agrees
with anyone or not, and doubt what you doubt and admit that you don't know
tons of stuff.  It's so hard to define things for yourself when all during
your formative years you get your information from other sources outside
yourself, often valuing the authority of the person telling you what they
believe and in some cases acting as an example.  And it seems to me that it's
impossible to be yourself completely, humans being social animals and all.
We're always going to try to please someone other than ourselves at some
point because that, in a round about way, pleases ourselves and our egos.

I hope I made some sense and sorry for keeping the topic alive -
like Kimby says: "don't kill me"
Love & salsa,
malfunctiongirl

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Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 21:03:42 -0500
From: Christopher Michael Bourke <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) concert date?

I don't live in NYC, but maybe this could be helpful for some of you:

My friend emailed me this bit of info:

I think Moby is spinning here in nyc on October 10 at a party called BOO!
but from what I hear the people who throw this party never organize things
well and they always get shut down or they turn people away...  A 35
dollar ticket is a bit steep for me to take a chance on.


QED

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Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 23:08:40 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) moby on tv

was watching dawson's creek today and what do i hear but bodyrock. just
thought i'd let you know.

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Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 09:45:03 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time)
From: Tim Beecher <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Non Conformity?..AND MOBY!

Non-conformity CAN be done, depending on what you want to
conform to or not, as the case may be. I never said blanket
conformity/non-conformity, was possible. I was referring to
a specific topic. I didn't think there was a need to be so
pedantic about it! So, if the norm was to jump off cliffs
by the time you're 30 because corporate America or the
European Union told you to, because it would benefit big
corporations and governments and fuck everyone else up,
would you conform?

I don't think so, unless you are totally brainwashed!

TMB

On Wed, 6 Oct 1999 15:47:28 -0600 dale
<[e-mail]> wrote:

> non confomity. blah. it cant be done. someone else, some other group, some
> culture already lived or is living what youre living now. someone out there
> likes the same music/food/ideas/fun things as you do.  hating trendy stuff
> is trendy. theres no point in wasting your time trying to fight corporate
> america. there isnt some big conspiracy against the individuals of america,
> otherwise, why would they push individualism in advertisments, blah blah.
> people like to make money, and some people dont like the ways others choose
> to make it, mostly because they are jealous, no matter how much they deny
> it.  just ebcause you think for yourself doesnt mean you cant SHARE ideas
> and beliefs with other people.  if you dont want to be a 'subserviant of
> corporate america', move to canada. }:P>  they have better health care
> anyway.
> P.L.U.R. sums it up quite a bit, i think.
>   -dale-
>
>
>

- ----------------------
Tim Beecher
Cranfield University
[e-mail]

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Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 22:43:19 +1300
From: Joseph Parkes <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Non Conformity and the Moby God

I don't believe in God or Gods.  What I meant about Moby being a God was
just an exaggeration ( a hyperboly if you will).  Since I don't believe in
God/s then It would mean in my mind that I think Moby makes me feel
absolutely powerful, and The charge I get when hearing his harmonic tunes
is sadly missed by most of the world.
One day however it is my belief he will become recognised for the Genius he
is.

Did I clear that up, oh well

Non-Conformity.

Who the fuck cares what group you hang out with, if you go down the street
wearing Tommy Shit then you don't have the same taste as me.  You are still
a cool person (maybe) i don't know.  It is wrong to judge but everybody
does it.  EVERBODY has a first glance and makes up their mind.  It is
natural.  I don't really conform to one group as I see it.  I like every
kind of musik, I surf, but I don't Skate, I play Rugby and I study
economics, I have surfie friends and I have Football friends.  Basically
I'm a friendly guy, BUT I admit that it is impossible not to conform, as
stated (I think) in Malfunction Girls email.
Everything we do has been done, are we copying?

Bye Bye
Joe




Joseph Parkes [e-mail]

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Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 05:23:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: Hotel Detective Phizzo Jobson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) runon

> >Im going with aisle
>
> The only problem is you don't sit in the aisle. You
> walk in the aisle. (?)
>

i hear "sit in the fire"


> >"let the rammle and  the gammle and backsliders,
> tell em god almighty's
> >gonna put ya down."--?
>
> I think it's "tell the gamblin' the ramblin'
> backslider / tell 'em God
> almighty gonna cut 'im down."


gamblin AND ramblin



"i'm a rambler and a gambler and i guessi always
will...."


FUTURAMA CHARACTER OF THE DAY: BENDER (Moby's
favorite!)

=====
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SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON!
ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT!
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(aka >>>>>PAUL<<<<<)
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Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 08:27:27 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) concert date?

they usually have this party during this time....i thought it was always on
halloween but i could be mistaken, last year i believe it was held at
roseland..i don't know...elie

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Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 08:28:54 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby on tv

dawson's creek is a real entertaining show...very unrealistic but
entertaining
(cant wait to get flamed for this (:o))...all of a sudden i hear bodyrock
playing and bam!!! i call my friend and tell him...i thought it was nice to
hear moby's song...elie

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Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 13:47:57 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time)
From: Tim Beecher <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby on tv

I've never seen it. My partner likes it a lot, but then
he's a typical queen! I'll have to ask him if he can hear
Moby's tune playing. I'm slowly converting him, I think?

TMB

On Thu, 7 Oct 1999 08:28:54 EDT [e-mail] wrote:

> dawson's creek is a real entertaining show...very unrealistic but
> entertaining
> (cant wait to get flamed for this (:o))...all of a sudden i hear bodyrock
> playing and bam!!! i call my friend and tell him...i thought it was nice to
> hear moby's song...elie
>

- ----------------------
Tim Beecher
Cranfield University
[e-mail]

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Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 12:54:58 -0400
From: "Eric M. Goldberg" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) thoughts on WHAT LOVE

ok dug out my ETIW cd today.
and i was reminded again from moby's
WHAT LOVE, something i've always wondered.

Has anyone heard what his thoughts were on this
song?
Does anyone think that the beginning sorta slow
acoustic part was like a parody of all the rock bands
out at that time?
I dont know, moby's voice there first off doesnt sound
like his other songs, and then right before the chaos
of that song kicks in, he says "u know what im sayin"

when i first bought this album, like 3-4 years ago i
always imagined it was moby making fun of pearl jam for
that section of the song :)
anyone??



Eric
[e-mail]
http://www.mp3.com/tonematrix

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Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 14:17:54 -0400
From: "Novotny, Joe" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Funny whirring noise

I was listening to Play this morning and notice a weird thing...at the
beginning of both "The Sky is Broken" and "If Things Were Perfect", there is
a funny whirring noise at the beginning of the song(s).  Anyone know what
this is?   Maybe Moby himself can answer that one.  Also, it's kind of cool
how during "The Sky is Broken" you can hear the page being turned when he's
reading off the lyrics.  Back to work now...

Joe

NP -- Air - Premiers Symptomes

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Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 11:57:35 PDT
From: "trance former" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) taping Moby on the Idiot Tube...

sup,

someone asked if someone could put together some Moby footage from TV, well
my friend has made a video tape for me of Moby stuff, videos, interviews and
live performances, i would be glad to send anyone this tape, i would also
like to obtain other interviews, vidoes, and live performances from around
the world...i live in Ontario, Canada, and Moby's got pretty good TV time
here, so if anyone's interested we should combine all our stuff and perhaps
make the Ultimate Moby fan package Video, that would be very kewl!!!so
here's what i have right now...

Videos: Moby Spotlight (litlle interview clips included)
       -Go, Move, Next is The E, Revolver(it's Over mix), James Bond,
        Bodyrock x2, ETYTM.

        Moby interview live at Electric Circus ('95)

        Moby interview day after T.O. concert ('99)
        (with live footage clips)

        Moby interview at MTV Video Awards ('99)
        (they get in trouble during the interview)

        Moby interview in his studio (Animal Rights Period)
        (may have lost this one?!?!?)

peace and luv

djAHIMSA

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Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 11:58:07 -0700 (PDT)
From: Shaun David Rader  <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Funny whirring noise

I always thought these were the demo type tracks he included on the cd and
that the whirring is like the drum machine he used, the microphone or the
recording equipment he used.  Just my thoughts on it.

Shaun

On Thu, 7 Oct 1999, Novotny, Joe wrote:

>beginning of both "The Sky is Broken" and "If Things Were Perfect", there is
>a funny whirring noise at the beginning of the song(s).  Anyone know what

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Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 12:08:26 PDT
From: "courtney colonna" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) taping Moby on the Idiot Tube...

that was me who wanted moby stuff from tv.  could i get a copy of the tape
you have??  let me know.

thanks!

courtney


>From: "trance former" <[e-mail]>
>Reply-To: [e-mail]
>To: [e-mail]
>Subject: (mobility) taping Moby on the Idiot Tube...
>Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 11:57:35 PDT
>
>sup,
>
>someone asked if someone could put together some Moby footage from TV, well
>my friend has made a video tape for me of Moby stuff, videos, interviews
>and
>live performances, i would be glad to send anyone this tape, i would also
>like to obtain other interviews, vidoes, and live performances from around
>the world...i live in Ontario, Canada, and Moby's got pretty good TV time
>here, so if anyone's interested we should combine all our stuff and perhaps
>make the Ultimate Moby fan package Video, that would be very kewl!!!so
>here's what i have right now...
>
>Videos: Moby Spotlight (litlle interview clips included)
>       -Go, Move, Next is The E, Revolver(it's Over mix), James Bond,
>        Bodyrock x2, ETYTM.
>
>        Moby interview live at Electric Circus ('95)
>
>        Moby interview day after T.O. concert ('99)
>        (with live footage clips)
>
>        Moby interview at MTV Video Awards ('99)
>        (they get in trouble during the interview)
>
>        Moby interview in his studio (Animal Rights Period)
>        (may have lost this one?!?!?)
>
>peace and luv
>
>djAHIMSA
>
>______________________________________________________
>Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
>

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Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 21:12:27 +0200
From: "Mette Rogstad" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Hello!!

Sorry, i do not understand the message below. If it has something to do with
the fact that i enganged in a norwegian conversation that noone but me and
the other party understood, i appologize

:) Mette



>Perdona, pero no hemos entendido ni una palabra de lo que
>has dicho en este mensaje. ;-)
>
>> ~Selvsagt er du unskyldt!!! :)

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Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 12:36:22 -0700
From: kimbalina <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Unrelated...Dawson's Creek..Nothing to see here

> >I've never seen it. My partner likes it a lot, but then
> >he's a typical queen! I'll have to ask him if he can hear
> >Moby's tune playing. I'm slowly converting him, I think?
>

Geez kids, whatever happened to watching Melrose Place and Bev Hills 90210?  At
least those shows have a sense of betrayal and hatred about them.  Isn't Dawson's
Creek generally a teenage girl show?  I've seen a lot about it in girls mags.  Oh
well, do what cha do do what cha do.

BTW: I'm being silly.


- --kimby

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Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 12:41:43 -0700
From: kimbalina <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) MOBY/PEARL JAM...ALBUMS OF ALL TIME...

>
> >when i first bought this album, like 3-4 years ago i
> >always imagined it was moby making fun of pearl jam for
> >that section of the song :)
> >anyone??
>

NO, please say it ain't so?!  I'm a huge PJ fan, well, at least of their
pre-no code days.  Ten is like so up there w/ the greatest albums of all
time!  I'd have to say, for me at least it's something like this (but in
no real order):
TEN
Little Earthquakes
End of Everything/Ambiant
Violator
Every Tool Album
Pretty Hate Machine/Purest Feeling
Morrissey (self titled!!)

I can't think of anything else.  What does everyone else think?  Any one
agree w/ any of those.  I know there are more really quality albums but
those are a few of my top, top faves.  Maybe throw some Annie Lennox in
there, some more DM, some Smiths...

>

- --kimby

>
>

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Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 16:12:02 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Unrelated...Dawson's Creek..Nothing to see her

 if dawson's creek is a "teenage girl show" , i'm going to assume that i am a
21 year old male, that happens to like the show but is a bit confused about
his sexuality...it's entertaining, unreal, and a good show to procrastinate
to....it played Moby's song in it and that is it....21 DAYS TILL MOBY IN
NYC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 16:23:35 -0400
From: "Russell, Shera" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Engage

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Myself and a bunch of friends are going to Engage on 11/27 in DC.  We'd love
to meet up with anyone that is interested.  I've never been to the DC Armory
so I can't really desigante a meeting place.  Anyone going?  If so, any
suggestions?

Peace, Shera


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Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 16:33:15 -0400
From: "Novotny, Joe" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) Engage

Just so you know, the Armory is VERY old...has sort of a 1950's old airport
hangar feel to it.  Usually that's where they have the circus when it comes
to town.  I'm not sure how it will sound in there.  I went to a show there
once about 5 years ago and it didn't sound great, but hopefully Underworld
will bring a kick-ass sound system with them.  Unfortunately, I'll still be
in Chicago (Thanksgiving weekend) and so I'm missing Engage and also FILTER
at the 9:30 Club, which I'm pretty bummed about.  I love those guys.
Interesting fact about the Armory...I think it was when Marilyn Manson
played there that one of their roadies died when he fell from some lighting
rig.  Wooo...spooky.

Joe

NP -- The Damned -- Damned Damned Damned (one of the best punk records of
all time)

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Sent: Thursday, October 07, 1999 4:24 PM
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Subject: (mobility) Engage



Myself and a bunch of friends are going to Engage on 11/27 in DC.  We'd love
to meet up with anyone that is interested.  I've never been to the DC Armory
so I can't really desigante a meeting place.  Anyone going?  If so, any
suggestions?

Peace, Shera



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