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Re: (mobility) Dude
Re: (mobility) Dude
(mobility) HYMN and VAST, emotions
Re: (mobility) plug; fuse; old moby
(mobility) OT: VAST info (long)
Re: (mobility) Dude
Re: (mobility) HYMN and VAST, emotions
Re: (mobility) plug; fuse; old moby
Re: (mobility) HYMN and VAST, emotions
Re: (mobility) HYMN and VAST, emotions
Re: (mobility) Dude
Re: (mobility) AR Live CD
Re: (mobility) Prodigy
Re: (mobility) AR Live CD
Re: (mobility) Prodigy

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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 17:44:31 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Dude

then remove yourself its a mailing list ... your gonna get mails ...

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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 15:00:22 -0800 (PST)
From: BRIAN HOVEY <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Dude

Who is this addressed to ??????????/




- [e-mail] wrote:
>
> then remove yourself its a mailing list ... your gonna get mails ...

>
>

==




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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 16:28:47 -0600
From: "Ruben A. Blanco" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) HYMN and VAST, emotions

Can somebody tell me how hard it is to acquire a copy of Moby's Hymn
(alt.quiet.version). Are there any USA Websites that I can order it
from? I saw this description from the www.moby.org page:

"Only one track on this CD. And with reason, it's over a half-hour
long. Turn off all the lights, draw the blinds,
 make sure no one else is at home, and put this on. I'm amazed at the
persistence of vision that was required to
 make a song that is this long, and so amazingly intricate. If you're
looking for a dance music release, look elsewhere.
 If you're looking to tap into Moby's well of emotion, pick up this
import disc."

Can somebody add to this? Is the disk very soft, or is kinda chill
out stuff (great rhythms and beats)?

I hadn't heard of the group VAST, but I got informed from
www.cdnow.com. What I heard from the Real Audio clips, VAST sounded
like a rip from Stabbing Westward, NIN, GLU, etc. (plus the vocals
sounded terrible). But I like that type of music also so I am going
to check it out.

Can you order Moby's Little Idiot (the little disk included with
Animal Rights) from Electra records or elsewhere? Why does it have a
special catalog number (identifying it) if you can't? I got the promo
AR, and it didn't include Little Idiot CD(but I am also curious about
it). How is it? It's all instrumental Moby right? How is it compared
to End of Everything? Is it worth buying it for $30+   ,  if I
already have AR?

Is somebody willing to CDR (Little Idiot, Hymn (alt.quiet.version))
for me if I supply a disk and return postage? I haven't seen a lot of
trading going on here in this list. You can private e-mail me, or
respond with the E-Mailing list. THANKS!

Ruben A. Blanco
[e-mail]
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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 15:55:22 -0800 (PST)
From: Shawn Wallace <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) plug; fuse; old moby

- ---Kelbert <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> > richard D james ...[aphex twin/polygon window/caustic window...is
great
> ,]]]
> >
> > thanks for the vast info i'll be sure to buy it ASAP...


What do you know about Vast ?

We are talking about Visual Audio Sensory Theater, right? (I am not
sure if that is the name, but I like the song I heard on the radio)

Is there an audio clip available online?

Thanks-

Wall

Urban Prophet Enterprises



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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 20:16:55 -0800
From: "Kelbert" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) OT: VAST info (long)

> What do you know about Vast ?

well.... vast is one guy. jon crosby.  when he was 14 (actually according
to brian he was 16. anyway, he was younger than me!!!) he was picked by a
guitar magazine to be THE guy to watch.  i'm pretty sure he was a bass
player at the time.  or it might have been guitar.  but either way, the
spotlight has been on him since he was in GRADE NINE! yikes!

anyway, building on what he knew and putting it together with some new
found electronic knowlege, he put together the VAST Cd.  Visual Audio
Sensory Theater.  on the CD he did all the music, except for the drums.  oh
and this guy? he's only 21 years old.

yes, the lyrics are rip offs from a number of sources...  "touched" has a
line that is almost right out of "temptation" by New Order.  he borrows
from everyone from the doors to the tea party (canadian group.  i doubt a
lot of you guys would know who they are.  but he so reminds me of the tea
party).  but still, this is a fresh and innovative debut album.  sure, its
depressing and could be classified the same as something along the lines of
stabbing westward, or even nin in trent's manic depressive i can't get a
real relationship days....  but still, its pretty damn raw.  its hard to
believe this guy is only 21!!!

touched is the weird song you guys are probably hearing a lot on
"alternative" radio stations.  it starts off with quiet acoustic guitars
and then vocals start in (touched... you say that i am too. so much of what
you say is true...).  then these weird chanty things start getting looped
in the background (which are annoying until you get used to them) and
there's a heavy electric guitar riff.  the chorus is "i'll never find
someone quite like you again".  so yes, its a "relationship" song.
actually, i'm noticing the more i analyze the lyrics, the more i realize
how sexual in nature the are.  anyone who's heard the album, any comments
on what you think the meaning of "dirty hole" is?  i have a few ideas...
but nothing concrete.  comments?

clips of here, touched, dirty hole and pretty when you cry (and maybe i'm
dying. i dont remember 100%) are avaliable at CDNOW (http://www.cdnow.com).
just go and search for vast.  the mp3s of touched and pretty when you cry
are floating around http://www.oth.net, an mp3 search engine.  Personally
(me, kelly, [e-mail]) have the mp3s of touched and pretty
when you cry, and so if someone wants them, just send me a private e-mail.

well, i hope this has given some more info on Vast (visual audio sensory
theater) to at least one person, so all this typing wasn't in vain.  sorry
for the length of this message, i didn't mean for it to go on this long.
btw, where'd i get all this info from?  tis the abridged info from The New
Rock Preview on Toronto's Edge 102.  They did a bit of a bio thingy on jon
crosby last week, and this is all i remember and made notes about.  well,
this is it from me.  chemistry calls! (ick) peace.

- -kelly

np: surfing on sine waves- polygon window (yes, again.  i just stole it
back from my brother, who stole it back from me. heh. anyway, for some
reason its making me thing orbital/orb.  am i waaay off base here?)

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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 22:11:03 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Dude

listen, he's got a point. the stuff tmb was writing had nothing to do with
anything and could have been done personally.

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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 21:12:47 -0600
From: "Craig J. Rasmussen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) HYMN and VAST, emotions

you suck a phat one+ACE- What you want to do is illegal



+AD4-Can somebody tell me how hard it is to acquire a copy of Moby's Hymn
+AD4-(alt.quiet.version). Are there any USA Websites that I can order it
+AD4-from? I saw this description from the www.moby.org page:
+AD4-
+AD4AIg-Only one track on this CD. And with reason, it's over a half-hour
+AD4-long. Turn off all the lights, draw the blinds,
+AD4- make sure no one else is at home, and put this on. I'm amazed at the
+AD4-persistence of vision that was required to
+AD4- make a song that is this long, and so amazingly intricate. If you're
+AD4-looking for a dance music release, look elsewhere.
+AD4- If you're looking to tap into Moby's well of emotion, pick up this
+AD4-import disc.+ACI-
+AD4-
+AD4-Can somebody add to this? Is the disk very soft, or is kinda chill
+AD4-out stuff (great rhythms and beats)?
+AD4-
+AD4-I hadn't heard of the group VAST, but I got informed from
+AD4-www.cdnow.com. What I heard from the Real Audio clips, VAST sounded
+AD4-like a rip from Stabbing Westward, NIN, GLU, etc. (plus the vocals
+AD4-sounded terrible). But I like that type of music also so I am going
+AD4-to check it out.
+AD4-
+AD4-Can you order Moby's Little Idiot (the little disk included with
+AD4-Animal Rights) from Electra records or elsewhere? Why does it have a
+AD4-special catalog number (identifying it) if you can't? I got the promo
+AD4-AR, and it didn't include Little Idiot CD(but I am also curious about
+AD4-it). How is it? It's all instrumental Moby right? How is it compared
+AD4-to End of Everything? Is it worth buying it for +ACQ-30   ,  if I
+AD4-already have AR?
+AD4-
+AD4-Is somebody willing to CDR (Little Idiot, Hymn (alt.quiet.version))
+AD4-for me if I supply a disk and return postage? I haven't seen a lot of
+AD4-trading going on here in this list. You can private e-mail me, or
+AD4-respond with the E-Mailing list. THANKS+ACE-
+AD4-
+AD4-Ruben A. Blanco
+AD4-rblanco+AEA-utep.edu
+AD4AKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACo-
+AD4-
+AD4-

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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 21:15:37 -0700
From: Michaela Gerstner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) plug; fuse; old moby

the rare and collected b-sides CD is good... i like it a lot.  $30 for
it, though, seems a lot.  then again, i got mine used for half that
price.. so i wouldn't know what it would be new.  if u want, i could
shop around and see whether or not zia records here has it any cheaper.
the one close to my work may have it... the one close to my house is all
out of moby.  :(

plov

Kelbert wrote:
>
> > richard D james ...[aphex twin/polygon window/caustic window...is great
> ,]]]
> >
> > thanks for the vast info i'll be sure to buy it ASAP...
> >
> > check out plug ... too if you like aphex .. youwill  probably love plug
> ..
>
> actually, i bought polygon window for my brother... he's obsessed with
> aphex. but its so good i had to borrow it on a permanent basis without his
> knowing. heh ;)
>
> about plug:  i've been meaning to pick up something by plug, as the plug
> remix of perfect drug was the only one i liked (on the perfect drug single.
> duh. nine inch nails. duh.)
>
> and i think i'm on a winning streak with CDs here.  for v-day my mom gave
> me dimension intrusion by fuse (yeah its richie hawtin. shut up!!!).  what
> can i say? kickass shite.
>
> next on my "to buy" list will probably be some older moby stuff. i don't
> have all of it yet.  i dunno if i want to pay the $30 for the rare and
> collected b-sides thing... is it any good? or should i wait till i fill up
> my HMV card again so i have $24.99 off any cd i want in the store?
> comments?
>
> -kelly
>
> now playing: dimension intrusion by fuse.  what can i say? amazing! (and
> no, richie is NOT paying me to gush about his CDs all the time.  altho i
> wish i did get a paycheck out of this. but no, i just really adore his
> stuff. heh)

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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 21:23:01 -0700
From: Michaela Gerstner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) HYMN and VAST, emotions

i haven't had a problem finding this version of hymn.. the other version
is a lot harder.  cdnow has it, if i remember correctly (it's been a
while since i've shopped online).  if not, check around used CD stores.
i found mine for $4.99 used.  now, i think anyone who trades in moby
cd's is nuts... but hey, it's great for me!  :)

plov

Ruben A. Blanco wrote:
>
> Can somebody tell me how hard it is to acquire a copy of Moby's Hymn
> (alt.quiet.version). Are there any USA Websites that I can order it
> from? I saw this description from the www.moby.org page:
>
> "Only one track on this CD. And with reason, it's over a half-hour
> long. Turn off all the lights, draw the blinds,
>  make sure no one else is at home, and put this on. I'm amazed at the
> persistence of vision that was required to
>  make a song that is this long, and so amazingly intricate. If you're
> looking for a dance music release, look elsewhere.
>  If you're looking to tap into Moby's well of emotion, pick up this
> import disc."
>
> Can somebody add to this? Is the disk very soft, or is kinda chill
> out stuff (great rhythms and beats)?
>
> I hadn't heard of the group VAST, but I got informed from
> www.cdnow.com. What I heard from the Real Audio clips, VAST sounded
> like a rip from Stabbing Westward, NIN, GLU, etc. (plus the vocals
> sounded terrible). But I like that type of music also so I am going
> to check it out.
>
> Can you order Moby's Little Idiot (the little disk included with
> Animal Rights) from Electra records or elsewhere? Why does it have a
> special catalog number (identifying it) if you can't? I got the promo
> AR, and it didn't include Little Idiot CD(but I am also curious about
> it). How is it? It's all instrumental Moby right? How is it compared
> to End of Everything? Is it worth buying it for $30+   ,  if I
> already have AR?
>
> Is somebody willing to CDR (Little Idiot, Hymn (alt.quiet.version))
> for me if I supply a disk and return postage? I haven't seen a lot of
> trading going on here in this list. You can private e-mail me, or
> respond with the E-Mailing list. THANKS!
>
> Ruben A. Blanco
> [e-mail]
> ************************************************

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 01:26:03 -0500
From: Brett McSherry <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) HYMN and VAST, emotions

>
>"Only one track on this CD. And with reason, it's over a half-hour
>long. Turn off all the lights, draw the blinds,
> make sure no one else is at home, and put this on. I'm amazed at the
>persistence of vision that was required to
> make a song that is this long, and so amazingly intricate. If you're
>looking for a dance music release, look elsewhere.
> If you're looking to tap into Moby's well of emotion, pick up this
>import disc."
>
>Can somebody add to this? Is the disk very soft, or is kinda chill
>out stuff (great rhythms and beats)?
>
The Hymn.alt.quiet.version is very slow, It has what appears to be some
forms of chanting in the background, you can distinctly hear a choir
humming at the begining. I don't know if you know of the group Delierium,
who are Rhys Fulber, and Bill Leeb of Front Line Assembly (both geniuses).
However this hymn track is very Delerium like. No beats, very little
actually happens on this disc it goes absolutely nowhere, yet is beautiful
for it. I don't know how to actually to describe it, except for what you
would hear an echo of wind sounds perhaps in a tunnel. WHich is then
sampled over again with very melodic samples over top, but spread apart in
that 33 minutes I'd say almost slow goth in a sense. At parts there is
voices which you can hear but too heavely distorted to know what they would
be saying, if at all. It's not like anything Moby had done before or since.
I know that doesn't say much of the song, but it is very hard to describe
it, you'll know what I mean if you get it.

I got mine in Canada, at a local Sunrise records store for $8.99 a great
place to shop moby up until about a year ago when new management came in
and decided to cater to the top 40 crowd only it seems.




>
>Can you order Moby's Little Idiot (the little disk included with
>Animal Rights) from Electra records or elsewhere? Why does it have a
>special catalog number (identifying it) if you can't? I got the promo
>AR, and it didn't include Little Idiot CD(but I am also curious about
>it). How is it? It's all instrumental Moby right? How is it compared
>to End of Everything? Is it worth buying it for $30+   ,  if I
>already have AR?
>
Little Idiot is great very much melodic like the End of Everything--Voodoo
Child album, but still completley different. EOE is very much slow
electronic as you know im sure while LI tends to be acoustic guitar, with
voilins strings and piano poured over top of it. More classical type of
music than most of what he does. Also recommended even if you have to get
the Double disc of AR to get it, I did. I would gladly burn you a copy onto
a disc for you but my burner is busted, I have to get a buddy of mine to
help repair it sometime. Hopefully soon!


Brett McSherry




>
>
>Ruben A. Blanco
>[e-mail]
>************************************************

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 10:23:55 +0000 (GMT)
From: Tim Beecher <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Dude

Hello, I didn't write it! My friend just happened to want
to e-mail some people he knew while he was up here! I
didn't realise he was getting through to Mobiblity and
larking around - one off mistake okay and we was pissed! It
won't happen again, so chill. Take it easy/lighten up!

TMB

On Sun, 14 Feb 1999 22:11:03 EST [e-mail] wrote:

> listen, he's got a point. the stuff tmb was writing had nothing to do with
> anything and could have been done personally.
>

- ----------------------
Tim Beecher
Cranfield University
[e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:07:14 +0000
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) AR Live CD

> From:          "Craig J. Rasmussen" <[e-mail]>

> I recently found the Animal Rights Live at the Splash club 4-track
 for 8 us dollars.
> Is it worth buying?
>
Yes, although the recorded sound is a bit raw and under produced.  I
got it free at a concert that cost =A33 to get in but never mind.
>



Ed



It's better to regret something you did than something you didn't do.
>
>
>

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:29:35 +0000
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Prodigy

> And well as for Moby well he really gets my juices
> flowing babies. Yes I have recently split up with a girl
> friend and AR well hits in the middle of my heart.
> "some one to love"


Whoever wrote this.   Yes I know but that is because Moby is
essentially an emotional artist which is the most basic function of
music.

Ed

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 09:00:07 -0600
From: "Craig J. Rasmussen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) AR Live CD

gotta love the sarcasm



+AD4- From:          +ACI-Craig J. Rasmussen+ACI- +ADw-craigras+AEA-email.msn.com+AD4-

+AD4- I recently found the Animal Rights Live at the Splash club 4-track
for 8 us dollars.
+AD4- Is it worth buying?
+AD4-
Yes, although the recorded sound is a bit raw and under produced.  I
got it free at a concert that cost +AKM-3 to get in but never mind.
+AD4-



Ed



It's better to regret something you did than something you didn't do.
+AD4-
+AD4-
+AD4-

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 15:13:07 +0000 (GMT)
From: Tim Beecher <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Prodigy

Uh, that was my friend. He's not a bigtime Moby fan, but he
likes AR.

TMB

On Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:29:35 +0000 [e-mail]
wrote:

>
>
> > And well as for Moby well he really gets my juices
> > flowing babies. Yes I have recently split up with a girl
> > friend and AR well hits in the middle of my heart.
> > "some one to love"
>
>
> Whoever wrote this.   Yes I know but that is because Moby is
> essentially an emotional artist which is the most basic function of
> music.
>
> Ed
>

- ----------------------
Tim Beecher
Cranfield University
[e-mail]

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