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mobility-digest      Saturday, February 13 1999      Volume 01 : Number 335



(mobility) prodigy
(mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #334
(mobility) it's the prodigy
Re: (mobility) vast
(mobility) Double Tap
Re: (mobility) vast
Re: (mobility) The Story so far
Re: (mobility) Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Re: (mobility) Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
(mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #334
Re: (mobility) it's the prodigy
(mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #334
(mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #334
Re: (mobility) Into the Blue / Drop A Beat / SSF

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Date: 13 Feb 99 13:35:09 CST
From: **** <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) prodigy

>violence against women is wrong wrong wrong. =

  violence against anyone is pretty damn horrible. =

 > violence solves nothing. =


i do believe in this... i don't like violence at all.   =


but i read once that the Prodigy only made the song and called it "smack =
my
bitch up" because they knew that everyone would make a big deal about it.=
  i
don't even think that they were thinking about domestic violence when the=
y
made it, they just wanted to show how worked-up the public could get over=
 one
of their songs.   it was kind of a psychology experiment to see if people=

would go nuts over it (and they did).  and i think they wanted to kind of=

"thumb their noses" at music-censors.

personally i like the song and love Prodigy.  =


but  i think this proves that sometimes if there is something that people=

don't like, ignoring it is the best way to rid yourself of it... and that=

causing a big public outcry about it will only add fuel to the fire (and =
make
the song go platinum :).  =


it's just like the  2 Live Crew, you know?   =


____________________________________________________________

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Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 14:01:33 PST
From: "Android M" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #334

so what's the general view on
>this list about this song?  offensive or just a pathetic attempt at
being
>bad boys? comments?

You know, there's other songs on the album that are way better than that
one.  I don't think it should've been their opening track. Tracks 6-10
are better than tracks 1-5. 'Music for the jilted generation' was their
best, IMO.  It's funny about the prodigy, the first album was 'everybody
take an E and be happy' type music. the middle one was neutral, and the
newest one...well, I like RSW 's 'techno-rap' way better than prodigy.
and that was in the late 80's for christ's sake. Overall, I guess, I'm
not that impressed by the choices they've made.  I'm not the least bit
offended by the song 'SMBU', it just makes them look like market whores.
If nothing else, they rely on a play on words to impress stupid kids.
but, I guess you can say that about Moby's 'next is the E' too...

but, somehow, Moby seems to have acheived a longer lasting integrity
than Prodigy.

$.02,

- --a

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Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 16:15:29 -0600
From: "Craig J. Rasmussen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) it's the prodigy

>'Music for the jilted generation' was their
>best, IMO.
>
>but, somehow, Moby seems to have acheived a longer lasting integrity
>than Prodigy.

agree, agree
amen

Kevin
[e-mail]

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Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 17:39:15 -0500
From: Dan Silver <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) vast

Vast is awesome, my favorite CD from 1998, along with GLU and Deep Dish.
It is a wonderful CD, changing paces a bunch of times.  Recommended to
all.

                        -Dan

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Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 18:26:43 -0500
From: Brett McSherry <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Double Tap

The film in which Moby had done the entire original score for, was released
into  the video market in North America on Jan. 26 1999. So anyone wanting
to see it should try the local video stores and see if they have a copy or
two for rent.

It however, is not available to buy. The company making the tape will not
start selling the movie to the mass market for at least a couple of months.
It has a listing price at the moment for $89.99, but will surely go down in
price once it is released to the mass market.

It looks like a bad movie but who knows maybe it'll suprise us. It would
still be interesting to watch it for the musical score done by Moby!!! The
songs released on "I like to Score", "Novio" and I believe the other was
"Nash", were pretty good songs (simple but good), and should be in the
movie somewhere.


Brett McSherry

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Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 19:06:42 -0800
From: "the bergstroms" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) vast

> i saw the video ...
> but i didnt know if the whole cd was going to sound as good so i didnt
buy it
> ... is it ???

oh man...
i just bought the CD today.  i bought it after hearing pretty when you cry
and touched and i have to say, i'm in love! pretty when you cry is the
worst track on the album. and i sorta like that track, so that's pretty
good.

it is by far the best CD i've bought (so far) this year.
and that's saying a lot, considering most of my purchases have been moby
and richie hawtin related, who are two of my faves...

this guy is amazing.  the last track. beautiful.
this is the best debute album i've heard in a LONG time.
its hard to believe this guy is only 21!

i'm pretty sure the VAST (hehe) majority of the list would like this cd.
but that's just my two cents.

- -kelly

now playing: polygon window!!!!!!!

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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:21:55 +0000 (GMT)
From: Tim Beecher <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) The Story so far

That's weird I have all those except mercy#! I think I have
HEAVEN...something or other - I can't remember now! I'm
pretty pissed again tonight! You've got a
slightly different version to me anyways.

?

TMB

p.s. My mate nEIL IS WRITING TO YOU AT THE MOMENT. hE'S
GOING THROUGH similar relationship things to you so expect
to get a mail from him. We're both pretty pissed, so don't
expect to get much sense out of us!
On Sat, 13 Feb 1999 15:46:35 +0000 [e-mail]
wrote:

>
>  [e-mail]
> To:            [e-mail]
> Subject: The story so far
> Date:          Sat, 13 Feb 1999 15:40:01 GMT
>
> Ah Ah, I feel it, Everything, Mercy, Help me to Believe, Go (woodtick
> mix) Yeah, Drop a Beat(the new version), Thousand, Slight Return, Go
> (subliminal mix unedited version), Stream.
>
>
> There that's what's on my 'The Story so Far.'
>
> I think it's not my favourite Moby CD in my collection.  I didn't
> think that 'I like to score' was crash hot either although it's got a
> couple of gems on and I prefer it to TSSF.  I think the best albums
> are Animal Rights, Everything is wrong and the remixes of EIW.  At
> least they are my favourite ones.
>
>
> Ed
>

- ----------------------
Tim Beecher
Cranfield University
[e-mail]

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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:25:47 +0000 (GMT)
From: Tim Beecher <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hey Ed,

Well how's it going?

I suppose I should come clean  and tell how I am.

My name is Neil Am I am a very good frind of Tim's who I
beleive you have a relationship with. You must excuse of my
bad pushing of the keys as I am some what pissed.

Tim tells me that you have just split up with your girly.
Heavy shit man, I have been there thier recently. Women hey
well what can I say. I suppose if there is nothing left you
have to move on with your life, easier said than done but
one has to d it.

if it's not ment to be then hey it's not and ond should
look forward to new horizans as the sun shines bright.
Believe me.

Ok may be I'm talking shit but if like drop us a line on
    [e-mail]

Love and Peace

Neil
PS - Ilove music including music and I have done quite alot
of travlling India, Nepal, Thialnd etc

Hey man get back
On Sat, 13 Feb 1999 15:43:11 +0000 [e-mail]
wrote:

> So what is the difference between the old version of 'Drop a Beat'
> and the 'new' version on the British version of it. (Released in
> '92.)
>
> Ed
>

- ----------------------
Tim Beecher
Cranfield University
[e-mail]

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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:48:57 +0000 (GMT)
From: Tim Beecher <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Sorry to,Ed and the rest of the list! I didn't realise my
mate Neil had sent this to the entire Moby list! Shit! A
major mistake! Sorry just a bit too pissed again!

Please forgive us (especially Ed!).#

 TMB

On Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:25:47 +0000 (GMT) Tim Beecher
<[e-mail]> wrote:

> Hey Ed,
>
> Well how's it going?
>
> I suppose I should come clean  and tell how I am.
>
> My name is Neil Am I am a very good frind of Tim's who I
> beleive you have a relationship with. You must excuse of my
> bad pushing of the keys as I am some what pissed.
>
> Tim tells me that you have just split up with your girly.
> Heavy shit man, I have been there thier recently. Women hey
> well what can I say. I suppose if there is nothing left you
> have to move on with your life, easier said than done but
> one has to d it.
>
> if it's not ment to be then hey it's not and ond should
> look forward to new horizans as the sun shines bright.
> Believe me.
>
> Ok may be I'm talking shit but if like drop us a line on
>     [e-mail]
>
> Love and Peace
>
> Neil
> PS - Ilove music including music and I have done quite alot
> of travlling India, Nepal, Thialnd etc
>
> Hey man get back
> On Sat, 13 Feb 1999 15:43:11 +0000 [e-mail]
> wrote:
>
> > So what is the difference between the old version of 'Drop a Beat'
> > and the 'new' version on the British version of it. (Released in
> > '92.)
> >
> > Ed
> >
>
> ----------------------
> Tim Beecher
> Cranfield University
> [e-mail]
>
>

- ----------------------
Tim Beecher
Cranfield University
[e-mail]

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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 01:04:48 +0000 (GMT)
From: Tim Beecher <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #334

Well man,

I am a friend of tims.

And yes wll he tells me you are a bit of an arse.

Hey man just because you live in New York does not mean you
are well the cool one . Yes The b-Boys are from your tiwn
which I respect. Wel NY is pretty good but you should get
your loose arse over over to london towb and see what is
realy going on
On Sat, 13 Feb 1999 14:01:33 PST Android M
<[e-mail]> wrote:

> so what's the general view on
> >this list about this song?  offensive or just a pathetic attempt at
> being
> >bad boys? comments?
>
> You know, there's other songs on the album that are way better than that
> one.  I don't think it should've been their opening track. Tracks 6-10
> are better than tracks 1-5. 'Music for the jilted generation' was their
> best, IMO.  It's funny about the prodigy, the first album was 'everybody
> take an E and be happy' type music. the middle one was neutral, and the
> newest one...well, I like RSW 's 'techno-rap' way better than prodigy.
> and that was in the late 80's for christ's sake. Overall, I guess, I'm
> not that impressed by the choices they've made.  I'm not the least bit
> offended by the song 'SMBU', it just makes them look like market whores.
> If nothing else, they rely on a play on words to impress stupid kids.
> but, I guess you can say that about Moby's 'next is the E' too...
>
> but, somehow, Moby seems to have acheived a longer lasting integrity
> than Prodigy.
>
> $.02,
>
> --a
>
> ______________________________________________________
> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
>

- ----------------------
Tim Beecher
Cranfield University
[e-mail]

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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 01:11:02 +0000 (GMT)
From: Tim Beecher <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) it's the prodigy

Hey man,

how ever you are i pass my love towards you. Its just that
tim said you were a bit of a arse. And as he is my brother
i believe him,

Love peace and Harmony

Ny is just as place as is London
On Sat, 13 Feb 1999 16:15:29 -0600 "Craig J. Rasmussen"
<[e-mail]> wrote:

>
> >'Music for the jilted generation' was their
> >best, IMO.
> >
> >but, somehow, Moby seems to have acheived a longer lasting integrity
> >than Prodigy.
>
> agree, agree
> amen
>
> Kevin
> [e-mail]
>
>
>
>

- ----------------------
Tim Beecher
Cranfield University
[e-mail]

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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 01:13:21 +0000 (GMT)
From: Tim Beecher <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #334

I am really Sorry Andrew. My mate is being a complete tit!

I did not say those things. Shit, you've got to take him
with a pinch of salt! He just got on one of his arsehole
trips! He just likes dropping me in the shit!

oKAY THIS WAS A BIG MISTAKE BRINGING HIM HERE!

wE'RE JUST A LITTLE BORED AND he had to write something
insulting, to piss me off!

QWe're pisse so don't take itmpersonally, he could've
chosen anyone, it just happeneed to be you. I'll fcking
kill him one of these days!

TMB

On Sun, 14 Feb 1999 01:04:48 +0000 (GMT) Tim Beecher
<[e-mail]> wrote:

> Well man,
>
> I am a friend of tims.
>
> And yes wll he tells me you are a bit of an arse.
>
> Hey man just because you live in New York does not mean you
> are well the cool one . Yes The b-Boys are from your tiwn
> which I respect. Wel NY is pretty good but you should get
> your loose arse over over to london towb and see what is
> realy going on
> On Sat, 13 Feb 1999 14:01:33 PST Android M
> <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> > so what's the general view on
> > >this list about this song?  offensive or just a pathetic attempt at
> > being
> > >bad boys? comments?
> >
> > You know, there's other songs on the album that are way better than that
> > one.  I don't think it should've been their opening track. Tracks 6-10
> > are better than tracks 1-5. 'Music for the jilted generation' was their
> > best, IMO.  It's funny about the prodigy, the first album was 'everybody
> > take an E and be happy' type music. the middle one was neutral, and the
> > newest one...well, I like RSW 's 'techno-rap' way better than prodigy.
> > and that was in the late 80's for christ's sake. Overall, I guess, I'm
> > not that impressed by the choices they've made.  I'm not the least bit
> > offended by the song 'SMBU', it just makes them look like market whores.
> > If nothing else, they rely on a play on words to impress stupid kids.
> > but, I guess you can say that about Moby's 'next is the E' too...
> >
> > but, somehow, Moby seems to have acheived a longer lasting integrity
> > than Prodigy.
> >
> > $.02,
> >
> > --a
> >
> > ______________________________________________________
> > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
> >
>
> ----------------------
> Tim Beecher
> Cranfield University
> [e-mail]
>
>

- ----------------------
Tim Beecher
Cranfield University
[e-mail]

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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 01:15:28 +0000 (GMT)
From: Tim Beecher <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #334

Hey guys,

My name is Neil and am a good friend of Tims and Yes A Moby
fan AR.

Drop us a line on (library.Aerofilms.com)

Tim is such a nice guy. He offers love to evrybody. Well
aour friendship comes from the above Is suppose.


On Sat, 13 Feb 1999 14:01:33 PST Android M
<[e-mail]> wrote:

> so what's the general view on
> >this list about this song?  offensive or just a pathetic attempt at
> being
> >bad boys? comments?
>
> You know, there's other songs on the album that are way better than that
> one.  I don't think it should've been their opening track. Tracks 6-10
> are better than tracks 1-5. 'Music for the jilted generation' was their
> best, IMO.  It's funny about the prodigy, the first album was 'everybody
> take an E and be happy' type music. the middle one was neutral, and the
> newest one...well, I like RSW 's 'techno-rap' way better than prodigy.
> and that was in the late 80's for christ's sake. Overall, I guess, I'm
> not that impressed by the choices they've made.  I'm not the least bit
> offended by the song 'SMBU', it just makes them look like market whores.
> If nothing else, they rely on a play on words to impress stupid kids.
> but, I guess you can say that about Moby's 'next is the E' too...
>
> but, somehow, Moby seems to have acheived a longer lasting integrity
> than Prodigy.
>
> $.02,
>
> --a
>
> ______________________________________________________
> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
>

- ----------------------
Tim Beecher
Cranfield University
[e-mail]

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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 01:25:39 +0000 (GMT)
From: Tim Beecher <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Into the Blue / Drop A Beat / SSF

Hey Dan,

have you got a big arse with lots of dad hair because I
haven't

Love,

Tim.

I love driving in big fast black cars with lots of men.
You should come ovet to the Uk
On Sat, 13 Feb 1999 10:11:38 -0700 Daniel Cerman
<[e-mail]> wrote:

> AJ Brustein wrote:
> >Can someone tell me if there is more than one into the blue single? Since I
> >only have the CD with me, I don't know what the covers look like but my track
> >listing is:
> >1.Voodoo Child Mix
> >2.Spiritual Mix
> >3.Simple Mix
> >4.Uplifting 4 Beat Mix
> >5.Summer Wind Mix
> >6.The Buzz Boys Main Room Mayhem Mix
> >But, today someone sent me info on a CD with this listing (in some order?)
> >simple mix, voodoo child mix, underground mix, uplifting 4 beat mix and
> >summer night mix
> >Is this a different CD? Does anyone know the situation? Thanks a lot.
>
> Yes, it's a different CD.  I have both.  What you have is the UK #2
> single.  The one with the Underground Mix is the German #2 single.
> There are also UK and German #1 CD singles ("Into The Blue", not
> "Into The Blue Remixes").
>
> IMHO all 4 (UK & German) CD singles are worth having for completist
> collectors.  I only have 3 (I'm missing German #1, with the Hard
> Mix).  The covers of the UK and German #2 singles are the same --
> red inverse-ish pictures of Moby underwater.  The CDs have the same
> design on them (Moby's hand underwater), but the German one is
> markedly fainter, at least on my copies.  There is also a variation
> on UK #1 that drops "Shining" and adds two Junior Vasquez remixes.
> So there are basically 5 versions of the "Into The Blue" CD single.
>
> The only reason that you would be interested in the German single(s)
> if you already have the UK would be for the remixes by "Steve Mason
> and P.E.T.E." -- the Hard Mix on CD#1 and the Underground Mix on #2.
> These are good remixes.  I especially like the Underground Mix,
> which is over eight minutes long.  It has a breezy nighttime techno
> backdrop with an eerily tweaked-up "I fly" vocal sample, making for
> a pleasant, exotic remix.  The Hard Mix, which I only have on vinyl,
> is (as I recall it (I haven't listened to it recently)) a poundier
> surf's-up kind of track. :)  Anyways, these remixes are rare & cool.
>
> [e-mail] wrote:
> >So what is the difference between the old version of 'Drop a Beat'
> >and the 'new' version on the British version of it. (Released in
> >'92.)
>
> The original version is better.  The new version is shorter (just
> over two and a half minutes), adds a vocal sample that sounds like
> "I don't know 'bout you but I'm good", and is more punchy/hardcore
> than the crisp original version.  The new version seems to be
> designed just to work a live crowd into a frenzy, which it probably
> does.  From what I've heard, Moby always plays The New Version of
> DAB in his live performances.
>
> _The Story So Far_ is a great album.  And unlike Instinct's _Rare_,
> which puts a fade-out on "Next Is The E (I Feel It)" and calls it
> the Club Mix, SSF gives you the full version of this classic track
> without the fade-out.  Since "Next Is The E (I Feel It)" was the
> first version of that song that I heard, and also one of the tracks
> that was instrumental in making me a Moby fan, I consider it to be
> the definitive version of the song.  It's well worth the effort to
> obtain (and I had to search for *years* before I found it).
>
> Daniel Cerman
> http://www.moby.org/
> NP:  Petra, _On Fire!_, "Somebody's Gonna Praise His Name"
>
>

- ----------------------
Tim Beecher
Cranfield University
[e-mail]

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