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From: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com (mobility-digest)
To: mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com
Subject: mobility-digest V1 #56
Reply-To: mobility
Sender: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com
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Precedence: bulk
mobility-digest Friday, January 2 1998 Volume 01 : Number 056
(mobility) Spawn album & Schoolhouse Rock (was: Re: Moby and homosexualists)
Re: (mobility) Spawn album & Schoolhouse Rock (was: Re: Moby and homosexualists)
(mobility) i'm in love....
Re: (mobility) Moby and homosexualists
Re: (mobility) i'm in love....
(mobility) Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 11:32:37 -0500
Re: (mobility) Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 11:32:37 -0500
(mobility) hello
(mobility) Moby and Car adverts (was: re: Moby and homosexualists)
Re: (mobility) i'm in love....
(mobility) gotta love that moby!
Re: (mobility) speed metal
Re: (mobility) Moby and Car adverts (was: re: Moby and homosexualists)
Re: (mobility) gotta love that moby!
(mobility) Hi
Re: (mobility) Hi
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 18:54:07 EST
From: MOBY child <MOBYchild@aol.com>
Subject: (mobility) Spawn album & Schoolhouse Rock (was: Re: Moby and homosexualists)
ok...here i go...
i wasnt impressed by the spawn album at all...not even the moby song. the
song didnt have much of a drive behind it. even MOBYs ambiant songs seem to
flow a little bit. this song seemed to just hang there...no action.
ok, i'm sorry...i really am. i am going to drift from the topic of MOBY for
one brief second. i dont want to start a huge thread about Manson and/or the
Sneaker Pimps. i ask in advance that people flame ME directly, and avoid
sending it to the list.
This is just in responce to the question in a previous post which is at the
bottom of this one.
anyway, the song credit was only given to Manson because this is basically
what happened: Manson wrote the song, completely. he, then, sent this song
over to the sneaker pimps with relatively little time left for them to
properly remix/ produce/ whatever the track. this, as i understand it, is why
they dont care for each other.
ok, in a vein attempt to redeem my soul (which is, after the past off topic-
ness, i really need to do), i dont ever recall a thread on the song which Moby
did for the Schoolhouse Rock tribute album. i thought that song was actually
very well done, and gave me the first indication of what mobys "rock" side
would sound like (since this album was released pre-AR). anyway, i thought
that song had a nice feel to it...
....i get my thing in action....
~L~
____________UNRELATED *BONUS* RANT______NOT MOBY RELATED_______
- --please, can we use the term "electronic music" instead of electronica. it
undermines the entire electronic music scene as it attempts to put a general
label on a scene which cannot be generalized. while people continue to
distinguish between alternative rock, classic rock, and soft rock insted of
simply referring to it all as just "rock"; yet fail to realise that electronic
music really consists of many sub-genres.--
____________UNRELATED *BONUS* RANT______NOT MOBY RELATED_______
In a message dated 97-12-30 18:07:30 EST, someone wrote:
> Last thing, I got the Spawn soundtrack the other day, and that
> Butthole Surfers/Moby song is good, but Moby really needed to do a little
> more on that song. As a matter of fact, most of the songs on it sound like
> the "electronica artists" (for lack of a better term) were just on there to
> provide the background music, while the rock/metal artists basically took
> all of the credit. For example, the Marilyn Manson/Sneaker Pimps song
> sounds like M.M. took all of the credit and left S.P. in the dust. (M.M.
> and S.P. hate each other, but that's a different story). On the video for
> it-which sucks, just like the song.-only credit is given to Marilyn Manson;
> why is that? Just wondering.
>
> Later,
> D.
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 21:12:30 -0600
From: "Dennis Daniels" <ddaniels@wcs-net.com>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Spawn album & Schoolhouse Rock (was: Re: Moby and homosexualists)
I used the term electronica because of all of the different
styles of music on it, such as Roni Size (Jungle/Drum 'n' Bass), Wink
(Acid/House), etc., but yes, the album itself could've been better.
I've never heard the Moby song from the Schoolhouse Rocks
compilation, or his song from Music For Our Mother Ocean 2, or his Orbital
remix from the Hackers 2 soundtrack for that matter.
Sorry for the use of "electronica", as most artists in these
genres probably hate it, too.
See ya,
D.
- ----------
From: MOBY child <MOBYchild@aol.com>
To: mobility@lists.xmission.com
Subject: (mobility) Spawn album & Schoolhouse Rock (was: Re: Moby and
homosexualists)
Date: Tuesday, December 30, 1997 5:54 PM
ok...here i go...
i wasnt impressed by the spawn album at all...not even the moby song. the
song didnt have much of a drive behind it. even MOBYs ambiant songs seem
to
flow a little bit. this song seemed to just hang there...no action.
ok, i'm sorry...i really am. i am going to drift from the topic of MOBY
for
one brief second. i dont want to start a huge thread about Manson and/or
the
Sneaker Pimps. i ask in advance that people flame ME directly, and avoid
sending it to the list.
This is just in responce to the question in a previous post which is at the
bottom of this one.
anyway, the song credit was only given to Manson because this is basically
what happened: Manson wrote the song, completely. he, then, sent this
song
over to the sneaker pimps with relatively little time left for them to
properly remix/ produce/ whatever the track. this, as i understand it, is
why
they dont care for each other.
ok, in a vein attempt to redeem my soul (which is, after the past off
topic-
ness, i really need to do), i dont ever recall a thread on the song which
Moby
did for the Schoolhouse Rock tribute album. i thought that song was
actually
very well done, and gave me the first indication of what mobys "rock" side
would sound like (since this album was released pre-AR). anyway, i thought
that song had a nice feel to it...
....i get my thing in action....
~L~
____________UNRELATED *BONUS* RANT______NOT MOBY RELATED_______
- --please, can we use the term "electronic music" instead of electronica.
it
undermines the entire electronic music scene as it attempts to put a
general
label on a scene which cannot be generalized. while people continue to
distinguish between alternative rock, classic rock, and soft rock insted of
simply referring to it all as just "rock"; yet fail to realise that
electronic
music really consists of many sub-genres.--
____________UNRELATED *BONUS* RANT______NOT MOBY RELATED_______
In a message dated 97-12-30 18:07:30 EST, someone wrote:
> Last thing, I got the Spawn soundtrack the other day, and that
> Butthole Surfers/Moby song is good, but Moby really needed to do a
little
> more on that song. As a matter of fact, most of the songs on it sound
like
> the "electronica artists" (for lack of a better term) were just on there
to
> provide the background music, while the rock/metal artists basically
took
> all of the credit. For example, the Marilyn Manson/Sneaker Pimps song
> sounds like M.M. took all of the credit and left S.P. in the dust. (M.M.
> and S.P. hate each other, but that's a different story). On the video
for
> it-which sucks, just like the song.-only credit is given to Marilyn
Manson;
> why is that? Just wondering.
>
> Later,
> D.
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 00:08:01 -0700
From: but not _the_ frankz <frank.z@wxs.nl>
Subject: (mobility) i'm in love....
Moby,
I want to say to ye
That Yo love theme is what I think!
about music!
Music = Love = Language
why talk?
LSTEN!
Play 'Love Theme" and understand
Kees
_____________________________________
"Internet: your bright sight of life" - Kees
- ------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 02:02:46 -0600 (CST)
From: theShackofXaq <zbentz@d.umn.edu>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby and homosexualists
On Tue, 30 Dec 1997, Dennis Daniels wrote:
> Anyway, I was told by someone that Moby did the James Bond re-version
> as a result of BMW wanting it for their ads. Is there any truth to that?
i certainly hope NOT!
quite awhile ago, moby had a run-in with a car company that used the twin
peaks theme in an advert. "go" was big them, and people thought it was
moby doing the ad. he said them that he would never do such a thing.
ps. could you please trim your re: next time. thanks!
- -xaq-
"People have power not only depending on how much they know, but also what
they are prepared to find out!" alec empire
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 11:03:37 EST
From: Chilidiba9 <Chilidiba9@aol.com>
Subject: Re: (mobility) i'm in love....
what is love theme
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 09:24:52 -0700
From: CRAIG GOLDBERG <CGOLDBERG@EYPae.com>
Subject: (mobility) Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 11:32:37 -0500
Can anyone define the categories of "Electronica" for me - with
examples...
i.e. What's difference between techno, rave, ambient, etc., etc.?
Much appreciated.
- -CDG
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 12:30:17 EST
From: Froggy1 <Froggy1@aol.com>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 11:32:37 -0500
about the defining different types of electronic music, i can kind of help
out. techno is dance music. like if you go to a club, that's probably what
they're spinning. rave is also pretty much techno from my knowledge, i could
be wrong. some examples of techno are some MOBY....this man does it
all......chemical bros.,aphex twin....who also does other stuff, and the
chrystal method, which in my opinion is more rave like if there is a
difference. now ambient music, which i happen to be a big fan of now, is very
relaxing. it's very euphoric and dreamy. to me it's like a drug with out side
effects. it's beautiful, dreamy, atmospheric electronics. some exapmles of
this are....you guessed it, MOBY......hence the title of his album,
ambient,....sounds from the ground, higher intellegence agancy, and also aphex
twin. there are alot more. there are also other types of electronic music,
alot of which MOBY is doing and has done. well i hope i helped understand a
bit from my knowledge. c-ya
- ----drew
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 12:43:50 EST
From: Froggy1 <Froggy1@aol.com>
Subject: (mobility) hello
hi, my name is drew. i'm a new member. i'm 17 years old and live in the great
state of connecticut....yeah right. my moby collection isn't very large,
because i'm a conosaur of lots of music and whatnot. i have only "Everything
Is Wrong" and I like To Score"....i do however plan on buying another of his
soon along with Voodoo Child if i can find it.....if anyone has any suggestion
as too which one of his i should get, much would be appreciated. when i first
heard moby was on a modern rock station, with "when i reach for my
revolver"....then i got a cd of his. i liked it. i also soon after saw him at
a concert that my local modern rock station held at an amusement park....and i
have to say that MOBY RULED!!!!......without a doubt a great performence. i
didn't know someone who does electronic music could put on such a great show,
but he proved me wrong. as for some of my other favorite artist, my fave in
Nine Inch Nails, i also like Tool, Ministry, White Zombie, Soul Coughing,
Radiohead, Orbital, Forest for the Trees, alot of the Seattle stuff (pearl
jam, stp, the late soundgarden) and lots of anything that rocks or soothes,
makes my ears bleed or puts me in a trance. whatever.....as long as it's not
rap, r&b, or country, i'll like it. i don't really know any other information
that anyone here would like to know.....i do however plan to be a great
musician someday and hope that alot of the people on this mailing list will
find pleasureable to listen to. well i guess that's it for my introduction
hope all have a good day and a happy new year.
- --drew
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 18:02:44 EST
From: MOBY child <MOBYchild@aol.com>
Subject: (mobility) Moby and Car adverts (was: re: Moby and homosexualists)
greetings.
moby DID do an advertisement for an overseas (relative to US) car company. i
recieved a postcard from DEF (his european marketing agency, or whatever)
saying that "God moving of the face of the waters" was going to be used for a
car ad, stating that he was going to donate money from that to environmental,
alternative energy and animal rights groups. he called donating said money
"perversely satisfying".
but i doubt he made the JBT remix just for the BMW commercial. i've heard,
yes, only HEARD, that movie companies often ask several artists to make songs
for movies. some make it in, some dont. (this happened with Planes, Trains,
and Automobiles with the Cleaning Ladies...but thats a long story...if ya know
anything about the Cleaning Ladies, a chicago band, e-mail me directly...)
thank you, and have a happy new year...celebrate safely and all that...
~L~
hehe...
In a message dated 97-12-31 03:10:00 EST, someone wrote:
> i certainly hope NOT!
> quite awhile ago, moby had a run-in with a car company that used the twin
> peaks theme in an advert. "go" was big them, and people thought it was
> moby doing the ad. he said them that he would never do such a thing.
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 13:47:52 -0700
From: but not _the_ frankz <frank.z@wxs.nl>
Subject: Re: (mobility) i'm in love....
At 11:03 AM 12/31/97 EST, you wrote:
>what is love theme
Love Theme is when Jesus is singing in your EARS,
Love Theme is what you shout when you in Love...
Love Theme is what you allways want to be,
Love Theme is #11 from "I love To SCORE",
Love Theme is (ryu says) 'Living' from Animal Rights... but made into a SONG
Love Theme & Living... is two things, ryu & I discuss about the difference
between Numbers & Songs....
Love Them is the SONG, Love Theme is SURF....
Living is the NUMBER... It could last for EVER....
Love Theme has two bridges, maybe three, maybe it's just ONE Big Bridge....
Love Theme is the definition of a SONG.... Love Theme is what you ALL want
to have made
love theme is probably the next thing you are gonna BUY!
I wish you all a lot of health,
1998,
kees
_____________________________________
"The One (& only) thing that counts = LOGIC" -
Kees (I made this up (together) with Socrates)
- ------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 01 Jan 1998 23:53:12 -0600
From: Rob Skipworth <rskipwo@comp.uark.edu>
Subject: (mobility) gotta love that moby!
My NAme is Rob Skipworth
I'm 20
I have about 8 or 9 moby cd's.....
I first heard of moby on a smashing pumpkins mp3 web site..... it
mentioned his remix of 1979 (beautiful work i might add) so then I
decided to look for more moby stuff.... came across rare- the collected
b sides and the go remixes...bought that and loved it!
I also like the crystal method! Got to meet them in st. louis... real
nice guys., prodigy. smashing pumpkins. u2, beatles...chemical brothers
all kinds of stuff
everybody must listen to Fatboy Slim!!!!
i look forward to learning some cool stuff about moby on this list.
thanks
rob s
ps... anyone know where i can buy a 303???
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 14:33:22 -0800
From: "Rekkit" <rekkit@spectranet.ca>
Subject: Re: (mobility) speed metal
>a mixture of rock and "electronica" (if that's what you want to call it) is
>called industrial. it's been around since the early seventies....
>some modern industrial acts are nin and gravity kills...
I believe industrial actually started up around '79 (whenever it was, it was
around the same time as the Sex Pistols) with Throbbing Gristle. Genesis P.
Orridge came up with the term....I won't get into the semantics of whether
or not Gravity Kills is industrial or not, seeing as how this is the Moby
list ;)
- -------------------------------------------------------------------
Death In Vegas: The Unofficial Page:
http://www.spectranet.ca/~rekkit/index.htm
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 16:31:31 +0100
From: Jonathan Ruano <kobalt@james.encomix.es>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby and Car adverts (was: re: Moby and homosexualists)
On Wed, Dec 31, 1997 at 06:02:44PM -0500, MOBY child wrote:
> but i doubt he made the JBT remix just for the BMW commercial. i've heard,
> yes, only HEARD, that movie companies often ask several artists to make songs
> for movies. some make it in, some dont.
I watched the movie last week and, knowing that JBT remix wouldnt be on the
film, I listened carefully to the opening song (dont know if the sound was not
good, but I didnt like Sheryl Crow), and the ending theme.
I remembered that k.d. lang was asked to write "the" song for the movie, but
there was a discussion on the money, or some other problem, and finally Sheryl
did it. It seemed to me that putting k.d.'s performance at the end was kinda
of last-minute fix, and Moby got out of the movie (??).
Correct me if I'm wrong but, on James Bond films, the main theme is always
sung by female vocal ( and there're lyrics, not just music) , isnt it ?
Jonathan.
- --
512/781AF549 1997/11/26 Jonathan Ruano (low-sec) <kobalt@james.encomix.es>
Key fingerprint = 7A 87 8E 82 50 82 1D 19 CD BE 3E 20 FA 80 6F 8F
For more bits, browse http://www.encomix.es/users/jonah/
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 16:35:06 +0100
From: Jonathan Ruano <kobalt@james.encomix.es>
Subject: Re: (mobility) gotta love that moby!
On Thu, Jan 01, 1998 at 11:53:12PM -0600, Rob Skipworth wrote:
> My NAme is Rob Skipworth
Welcome to Mobility List, Rob.
> everybody must listen to Fatboy Slim!!!!
I first heard Fatboy Slim on The Jackal soundtrack, which (of course :)
has "Shining", from Moby. :)
>
> ps... anyone know where i can buy a 303???
Have you taken a look at Win95's Re-Birth ? Yes, it's a program... :)
Jonathan.
- --
512/781AF549 1997/11/26 Jonathan Ruano (low-sec) <kobalt@james.encomix.es>
Key fingerprint = 7A 87 8E 82 50 82 1D 19 CD BE 3E 20 FA 80 6F 8F
For more bits, browse http://www.encomix.es/users/jonah/
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 01:32:56 -0500
From: "Cliff Bergman" <powderpig@brainiac.com>
Subject: (mobility) Hi
Hello! i'm Torin. i am a new member. i'm a 16 year old girl from the east
coast. i'm a huge fan of moby. i only own two of his cd's,"everything is
wrong" and "early underground", but i've heard almost all of his songs. i
love all the different mixes he does. i also own a bunch soundtracks with
some of his songs on them. i became interested in techno about two years
ago, and a friend suggested moby. i heard "feeling so real" and fell in
love. i also really like Future Sound of London, TKK, early Prodigy,
anything with surf guitar, lots of ska, and classical.i enjoy most
enerything, especialy if you can dance to it. not that long ago i was
fortunate enough to see moby live, on his tour. he kicked ass. he payed in
this little club were everyone was right next to the stage. i was in the
front dancing my heart out having a great time! it was the best. if you
know of any new or unusual mixes and/or songs, please let me know!
- -Torin
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 15:21:47 -0500 (EST)
From: Little Drummer Boy <rfairbai@mbhs.edu>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Hi
On Fri, 2 Jan 1998, Cliff Bergman wrote:
> Hello! i'm Torin. i am a new member. i'm a 16 year old girl from the east
> coast. i'm a huge fan of moby. i only own two of his cd's,"everything is
> wrong" and "early underground", but i've heard almost all of his songs. i
> love all the different mixes he does. i also own a bunch soundtracks with
> some of his songs on them. i became interested in techno about two years
> ago, and a friend suggested moby. i heard "feeling so real" and fell in
> love. i also really like Future Sound of London, TKK, early Prodigy,
> anything with surf guitar, lots of ska, and classical.i enjoy most
> enerything, especialy if you can dance to it. not that long ago i was
> fortunate enough to see moby live, on his tour. he kicked ass. he payed in
> this little club were everyone was right next to the stage. i was in the
> front dancing my heart out having a great time! it was the best. if you
> know of any new or unusual mixes and/or songs, please let me know!
> -Torin
>
some of the best remixes I have ever heard are on the "Everything is
Wrong:Mixed and Remixed" 2 disc set. Unfortunately, it is dificult to
find and (i think) maybe out of print. Still, if you have the chance you
might try to pick it up. If you live near DC or, really Baltimore, look
up Modern Musci, cause they might be able to get it for you (they can find
just abut anything. good luck!
****************************************************************
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|
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Early to rise, | Early to bed,
Makes a man healthy, | Makes a man healthy,
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