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From: "Bart van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Yahoo sampler & discography
Date: 01 Apr 2002 13:53:25 +0200

>If you're referring to the one with the little idiot drawing in the city on
the front, I've looked it over numerous times, and can't find >any sort of
information like that on it.  Only a tracklisting, and some copyright info.

Thanks for the info, I'll include in the discography that this one doesn't
have a catalog number.

I'm reviewing the Moby Discography and correcting all inconsistancies and
little errors. I was wondering, what do you guys think the best notation for
a promo is?

BODYROCK  [Jun 1999]
US 12" promo 2, V2, V2AB-27597-1

or

BODYROCK promo 2  [Jun 1999]
US 12", V2, V2AB-27597-1

Both are now used in the discography. I want to go to a standard, but I
can't make up my mind... The first way seems to have the advantage that it
goes nicely with a non-promo version with the same tracks like this:

BODYROCK  [Jun 1999]
US 12" promo 2, V2, V2AB-27597-1
US 12", V2, 1234567

But the second way just looks better to me...

All suggestions are welcome!

Bart





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From: M Land <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) sound off
Date: 31 Mar 2002 16:30:37 -0500

Sorry I'm so late responding...

Matt land since '98, fan since '97

> matt olson since 99, fan since 97
>
> whap!
>
> -matt
>
>>
>> 'bout time for a sound off...  Everyone list your name, how long you have
>> been on the list,  and how long you have been a Moby fan; Me:
>>
>> Chris Bourke, since 97, since 95.

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Theatre is LIFE
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From: "Shaun Rader" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) Moby in NY Times
Date: 01 Apr 2002 22:54:11 -0800

Christine wrote:

> my love for Moby - so he gave me his. :) I scanned in and
> made each page a .tif file... I uploaded it to the server

I didn't read the article yet but I downloaded it.. thank you and thank you
Bart for hosting an ftp site for us.  I am so glad we still have a place to
trade files!


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From: Christopher Michael Bourke <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) Moby in NY Times
Date: 02 Apr 2002 02:49:07 -0600 (CST)


> I didn't read the article yet but I downloaded it.. thank you and thank you
> Bart for hosting an ftp site for us.  I am so glad we still have a place to
> trade files!

Hey, don't I get any props (juice, nods, whatever the kids are saying now
adays) for when I hosted the mobility ftp for those many years?  I get no
respect I tells ya.  Anyway, I write this note as I will again be moving
come this May.  Not only that but I will be purchasing a new computer;
provided that I can get ahold of some decent ftp server software I may
again offer everything from the original FTP, which, along with Moby's
easily found items, represents over 95% of his catalogue as documented in
Bart's discography.  Cross your fingers boys and girls.


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From: "Bart van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Ftp stuff
Date: 02 Apr 2002 14:16:03 +0200

>Hey, don't I get any props (juice, nods, whatever the kids are saying now
>adays) for when I hosted the mobility ftp for those many years?  I get no
>respect I tells ya.

Not for a public Moby ftp... I even consider my ftp to have gotten a bit too
popular. Where are the times of Dr. Killpatient (the old-timers know what
I'm talking about ;)

>Anyway, I write this note as I will again be moving
>come this May.  Not only that but I will be purchasing a new computer;
>provided that I can get ahold of some decent ftp server software I may
>again offer everything from the original FTP, which, along with Moby's
>easily found items, represents over 95% of his catalogue as documented in
>Bart's discography.

I suggest http://www.bpftpserver.com/index.html this used to be G6 FTP
server, but they changed their name. It's the same program though... I also
use an older version of G6 myself, no complaints. The download is only 1.42
MB, and the price is $29.95 (hmm, G6 always used to be 19.95...) Or, if you
like, there are lots of cracks/serials for this program around ;)

G6 has a really friendly interface and is simple, yet powerful. The older
version (still named G6) is still available at Download.com if I'm not
mistaken. One thing, you must have a Micro$oft server with Win9x, NT, or 2K

Bart
  "You're lips are moving, but I can't hear what you say
  The stars are falling, but you still feel the same way"
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From: "Bart van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: NY article
Date: 02 Apr 2002 14:58:27 +0200

I noticed that the picture "8.tiff" is the last page scanned, but tnot the
last page of the article, is there a lot missing?

Bart



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby in NY Times
Date: 02 Apr 2002 11:58:08 EST


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In a message dated 4/2/2002 3:49:52 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:


> Hey, don't I get any props (juice, nods, whatever the kids are saying now
> adays) for when I hosted the mobility ftp for those many years

Of course you do!  Your FTP is a great site and I downloaded a lot of music
from it:)  I'm looking forward to you putting your site up again on your new
computer.
Thanks!!

-Sharmila

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<BR>
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From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Mad props
Date: 02 Apr 2002 09:08:22 -0800

Yeah I remember when the FTP had a TON of stuff on there it was
great!  That was when the FTP was in it's heyday (wasn't it like a gig of
stuff??) so mad props to you too!  :)  It was great because even though
Napster was thriving your FTP had all the tracks I couldn't get
elsewhere.  I tried to contribute myself when I could (Moby live on KCRW)
but it's hard to contribute when you guys had almost everything the man
made... that's a good thing!

Thanks to all who have contributed I am seriously touched by what tracks
fans are willing to share with one another (instead of keeping it all to
themselves)...

At 02:49 AM 4/2/2002 -0600, Christopher Michael Bourke wrote:

>Hey, don't I get any props (juice, nods, whatever the kids are saying now
>adays) for when I hosted the mobility ftp for those many years?  I get no
>respect I tells ya.  Anyway, I write this note as I will again be moving
>come this May.  Not only that but I will be purchasing a new computer;
>provided that I can get ahold of some decent ftp server software I may
>again offer everything from the original FTP, which, along with Moby's
>easily found items, represents over 95% of his catalogue as documented in
>Bart's discography.  Cross your fingers boys and girls.


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From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Mad props
Date: 02 Apr 2002 09:08:22 -0800

Yeah I remember when the FTP had a TON of stuff on there it was
great!  That was when the FTP was in it's heyday (wasn't it like a gig of
stuff??) so mad props to you too!  :)  It was great because even though
Napster was thriving your FTP had all the tracks I couldn't get
elsewhere.  I tried to contribute myself when I could (Moby live on KCRW)
but it's hard to contribute when you guys had almost everything the man
made... that's a good thing!

Thanks to all who have contributed I am seriously touched by what tracks
fans are willing to share with one another (instead of keeping it all to
themselves)...

At 02:49 AM 4/2/2002 -0600, Christopher Michael Bourke wrote:

>Hey, don't I get any props (juice, nods, whatever the kids are saying now
>adays) for when I hosted the mobility ftp for those many years?  I get no
>respect I tells ya.  Anyway, I write this note as I will again be moving
>come this May.  Not only that but I will be purchasing a new computer;
>provided that I can get ahold of some decent ftp server software I may
>again offer everything from the original FTP, which, along with Moby's
>easily found items, represents over 95% of his catalogue as documented in
>Bart's discography.  Cross your fingers boys and girls.


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From: Christopher Michael Bourke <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) ftp appreciation month...
Date: 02 Apr 2002 15:41:42 -0600

> The number of CDs I've burned as a result of your site is a testament
> to the value of your old site. :)

Ha!    Take that bart!  It feels so good to get some validation.

Thanks for the info though,  bart, I'll check it out.

Also, I have all the contents of the original FTP still intact, it was about
4 CDs worth, so more than 2 gigs.  I'll keep people posted as to my progress
of reinstating it.

Chris.


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From: mark <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) we are all made of stars video on m2
Date: 02 Apr 2002 17:53:08 -0500 (EST)

heya kids,
mtv2's gonna start showing the video for "we are all made of stars" on
thursday. they're running little adverts for that fact with a clip of the
vid every so often.
still no news on when episode 3 of moby's house of music's gonna air. i
wonder how long the show will actually last.
cheers,
    -mark

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From: "Bart van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Revamping the site + discography trouble
Date: 03 Apr 2002 17:36:39 +0200

I'm in the middle of revamping my Moby site:
http://www.mobymusic.com/collectors

When adjusting the Guestbook, I saw some anonymous person post some nasty
messages about how I am a hypocrite by not including a thanks list in the
cut-up discography that used to be at my site. That person used my e-mail
address, so he/she might just as well be on this mailing list, as I don't
give away my e-mail to anybody.

In case that person is reading this, please let me explain.

First, it was never my intention to keep the discography all for myself. The
version on my site used to be a sort of a back-up, ripped personal copy of
the real one at moby.org. Eventually moby.org became more and more neglected
and my place became the main place to get the discography, so people thought
this was the only version around.

Second, I am NOT the sole contributor to the discography, as you accused me
of claiming. Although I do a decent part myself, he discography is for and
by all moby fans. I would be nowhere without all the numerous contributions
that are sent to me from all over the world. I'm sorry I didn't make that
entirely clear by thanking you all.

Third, I felt like including a copyright notice because when moby-online was
built, DEF ripped large pieces from the discography without even thanking me
or Daniel Cerman. Not to keep it all for myself! Of course, the discography
is free for non-commercial use (I call moby-online.com non-commercial, it's
an official artist site, but not to promote releases etc.), but the least
you can do is credit the source you ripped it from and thank it's
maintainer. (Yes, I'm still angry about that, grrr) Also, they didn't
correctly copy half of the information, so on that side I'm glad they didn't
credit the source, people would get the wrong impression about the original
discography. I think I've made my point.

Finally, In the new site, I uploaded only the original big Moby discography,
WITH the thank you list. Of course I sometimes forget to include somebody in
the thank you list, so if you feel like you should be included, don't post
nasty things about me, I'm just an e-mail away :)

*steps down from soap box and thanks everyone for listening*

Bart





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From: Josh Alkire <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Yahoo sampler
Date: 03 Apr 2002 11:48:55 -0500

I'm a little late with this, but there is a number etched onto the back of
the CD itself:

091100-1-1

I don't know if this is consistent with all copies or not. But this may be
the closest thing to an actual catalog number for this sampler.

Josh




On 3/29/02 8:49 AM, "Bart van Eijck" <[e-mail]> wrote:

> Does anybody have that Yahoo sampler Moby cd with the cool pricture
> cardboard sleeve? If so, could you tell me the catalog number of it? I
> noticed the number wasn't in the discography yet. Also, if anybody knows a
> place where I can buy this cd really cheap, don't hesitate to contact me :)
>
> Bart


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From: Chris LeMaster <[e-mail]>
Subject:
Date: 03 Apr 2002 12:49:19 -0800


How's it going? I'm writing to see if you would like to help out with an
online campaign for the Blade 2 Soundtrack since you're a Moby fan. To tell
you a little bit more about the soundtrack, it has twelve tracks that
various artists have collaborate on including: Eve & Fatboy Slim, Ice Cube
& Paul Oakenfold, Cypress Hill & Roni Size, Redman & Gorillaz, Busta Rhymes
& Dub Pistols, Mystikal & Moby, plus more. The album was released on March
19 and I'm looking for people to spread the word about the album online by
posting messages at websites, e-mailing and instant messaging people,
spending a little time in chat areas, and sending MP3's. There is no time
requirements, but the more you help out, the more you will be rewarded with
cool stuff like an URB Magazine Subscription, Free CDs, ProKed Shoes, DM2
Music Mixer, Osiris G-Bag and more. If you are truly interested in helping
out, join the team at http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/blade2soundtrack or
e-mail me at [e-mail]. I hope you can be a part of the Blade 2
Team. If you want to see all of the artists on the record and check out
some of the tracks go to www.urb.com/blade2.

Thanks,
Chris



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From: Chris LeMaster <[e-mail]>
Subject:
Date: 03 Apr 2002 12:40:38 -0800


How's it going? I'm writing to see if you would like to help out with an
online campaign for the Blade 2 Soundtrack since you're a Moby fan. To tell
you a little bit more about the soundtrack, it has twelve tracks that
various artists have collaborate on including: Eve & Fatboy Slim, Ice Cube
& Paul Oakenfold, Cypress Hill & Roni Size, Redman & Gorillaz, Busta Rhymes
& Dub Pistols, Mystikal & Moby, plus more. The album was released on March
19 and I'm looking for people to spread the word about the album online by
posting messages at websites, e-mailing and instant messaging people,
spending a little time in chat areas, and sending MP3's. There is no time
requirements, but the more you help out, the more you will be rewarded with
cool stuff like an URB Magazine Subscription, Free CDs, ProKed Shoes, DM2
Music Mixer, Osiris G-Bag and more. If you are truly interested in helping
out, join the team at http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/blade2soundtrack or
e-mail me at [e-mail]. I hope you can be a part of the Blade 2
Team. If you want to see all of the artists on the record and check out
some of the tracks go to www.urb.com/blade2.

Thanks,
Chris



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From: "Matt Olson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Fwd: (blade 2 spam)
Date: 03 Apr 2002 13:24:01 -0800

anyone else get this?  i have my suspicions that my name was taken from=
 mobility.... >:o

-matt
*********** BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE  ***********

On 4/3/2002 at 12:40 PM Chris LeMaster <[e-mail]> wrote:

>
>How's it going? I'm writing to see if you would like to help out with an
>online campaign for the Blade 2 Soundtrack since you're a Moby fan. To
>tell
>you a little bit more about the soundtrack, it has twelve tracks that
>various artists have collaborate on including: Eve & Fatboy Slim, Ice Cube=

>& Paul Oakenfold, Cypress Hill & Roni Size, Redman & Gorillaz, Busta
>Rhymes
>& Dub Pistols, Mystikal & Moby, plus more. The album was released on March=

>19 and I'm looking for people to spread the word about the album online by=

>posting messages at websites, e-mailing and instant messaging people,
>spending a little time in chat areas, and sending MP3's. There is no time
>requirements, but the more you help out, the more you will be rewarded
>with
>cool stuff like an URB Magazine Subscription, Free CDs, ProKed Shoes, DM2
>Music Mixer, Osiris G-Bag and more. If you are truly interested in helping=

>out, join the team at http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/blade2soundtrack
>or
>e-mail me at [e-mail]. I hope you can be a part of the Blade 2
>Team. If you want to see all of the artists on the record and check out
>some of the tracks go to www.urb.com/blade2.
>
>Thanks,
>Chris
>
>

*********** END FORWARDED MESSAGE  ***********


-Matt
http://www.hollowgen.net


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Fwd: (blade 2 spam)
Date: 03 Apr 2002 16:25:27 EST

I got it too.

Brad

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From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Cyberscot?= <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Fwd: (blade 2 spam)
Date: 03 Apr 2002 22:27:04 +0100 (BST)

 I just got that as well and I E-mailed him back to
see how he got hold of my address - it seems pretty
clear how he did now though.


--- Matt Olson <[e-mail]> wrote: > anyone
else get this?  i have my suspicions that my
> name was taken from mobility.... >:o
>
> -matt
> *********** BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE  ***********
>
> On 4/3/2002 at 12:40 PM Chris LeMaster
> <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> >
> >How's it going? I'm writing to see if you would
> like to help out with an
> >online campaign for the Blade 2 Soundtrack since
> you're a Moby fan. To
> >tell
> >you a little bit more about the soundtrack, it has
> twelve tracks that
> >various artists have collaborate on including: Eve
> & Fatboy Slim, Ice Cube
> >& Paul Oakenfold, Cypress Hill & Roni Size, Redman
> & Gorillaz, Busta
> >Rhymes
> >& Dub Pistols, Mystikal & Moby, plus more. The
> album was released on March
> >19 and I'm looking for people to spread the word
> about the album online by
> >posting messages at websites, e-mailing and instant
> messaging people,
> >spending a little time in chat areas, and sending
> MP3's. There is no time
> >requirements, but the more you help out, the more
> you will be rewarded
> >with
> >cool stuff like an URB Magazine Subscription, Free
> CDs, ProKed Shoes, DM2
> >Music Mixer, Osiris G-Bag and more. If you are
> truly interested in helping
> >out, join the team at
> http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/blade2soundtrack
> >or
> >e-mail me at [e-mail]. I hope you can be
> a part of the Blade 2
> >Team. If you want to see all of the artists on the
> record and check out
> >some of the tracks go to www.urb.com/blade2.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Chris
> >
> >
>
> *********** END FORWARDED MESSAGE  ***********
>
>
> -Matt
>
> http://www.hollowgen.net
>
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From: Eric <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Fwd: (blade 2 spam)
Date: 03 Apr 2002 13:52:39 -0800 (PST)


   I got it too!

EricTheRed


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From: "Steve Giles" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Martin James - LPC problems?
Date: 03 Apr 2002 22:01:08


Martin,

I remember when your Moby biography came out, and the LPC group contacted me
and sent me a review copy. Do they handle all North American distibution for
your book? I'm just curious if their bankruptcy filing today has affected
you, sice many other folks I know using LPC to get their books into Borders,
Barnes & Noble, etc, are all owed money by this company. Also, will this
affect the book's availability? Will it still be around if this distibutor
goes belly-up?

Steve

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From: blue armadillo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Fwd: (blade 2 spam)
Date: 03 Apr 2002 14:06:41 -0800 (PST)

i got it too.

caylor

--- Matt Olson <[e-mail]> wrote:
> anyone else get this?  i have my suspicions that my
> name was taken from mobility.... >:o
>
> -matt
> *********** BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE  ***********
>
> On 4/3/2002 at 12:40 PM Chris LeMaster
> <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> >
> >How's it going? I'm writing to see if you would
> like to help out with an
> >online campaign for the Blade 2 Soundtrack since
> you're a Moby fan. To
> >tell
> >you a little bit more about the soundtrack, it has
> twelve tracks that
> >various artists have collaborate on including: Eve
> & Fatboy Slim, Ice Cube
> >& Paul Oakenfold, Cypress Hill & Roni Size, Redman
> & Gorillaz, Busta
> >Rhymes
> >& Dub Pistols, Mystikal & Moby, plus more. The
> album was released on March
> >19 and I'm looking for people to spread the word
> about the album online by
> >posting messages at websites, e-mailing and instant
> messaging people,
> >spending a little time in chat areas, and sending
> MP3's. There is no time
> >requirements, but the more you help out, the more
> you will be rewarded
> >with
> >cool stuff like an URB Magazine Subscription, Free
> CDs, ProKed Shoes, DM2
> >Music Mixer, Osiris G-Bag and more. If you are
> truly interested in helping
> >out, join the team at
> http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/blade2soundtrack
> >or
> >e-mail me at [e-mail]. I hope you can be
> a part of the Blade 2
> >Team. If you want to see all of the artists on the
> record and check out
> >some of the tracks go to www.urb.com/blade2.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Chris
> >
> >
>
> *********** END FORWARDED MESSAGE  ***********
>
>
> -Matt
>
> http://www.hollowgen.net
>
>
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yes yes everyone got it.

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From: "Matt Olson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Fwd: (blade 2 spam)
Date: 03 Apr 2002 14:10:29 -0800

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haha yeah, i think i gathered that by now....

-matt
*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********

On 4/3/2002 at 5:08 PM [e-mail] wrote:
yes yes everyone got it.


-Matt
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From: blue armadillo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) New Yahoo contact policy -- please read
Date: 03 Apr 2002 14:14:38 -0800 (PST)

i just got a huge email from yahoo about the update to
the privacy policy. haven't read it all yet, but maybe
they sent it out since they changed the "marketing
preferences" stuff.


--- "Scott S." <[e-mail]> wrote:
> That's pretty fucked up. Since they didn't tell any
> of their members about it, if I had received any, I
> would have sicced SpamCop on them without so much as
> batting an eye, at least regarding the e-mail...
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "dj pagan" <[e-mail]>
> To: "Fluke Mailing List" <[e-mail]>;
> "FSOL Mailing List" <[e-mail]>; "Mobility"
> <[e-mail]>
> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 1:28 PM
> Subject: (mobility) New Yahoo contact policy --
> please read
>
>
> > for those of you with yahoo accounts... and it is
> > legit.
> >
> > /djp
> >
> > > "Yahoo has sneakily added something something
> > > called "Marketing Preferences" to your account
> > > that gives Yahoo permission to send you spam
> > > through e-mail, the U.S. mail and phone, unless
> > > you check the "No" option of a series of
> > > buttons.
> > >
> > > Yahoo has defaulted all the buttons to
> > > the "Yes" option. To keep them from spamming
> > > you -- "with your authorization" -- you need to
> > > go to your account page and check the "No"
> > > buttons.
> > >
> > > Go to http://groups.yahoo.com and sign in. At
> > > top-right of the page click on "Account Info."
> > > You will be asked to confirm your password.
> > >
> > > Once on your account page, scroll down to
> > > "Member Information" and click on "Edit your
> > > marketing preferences" (the link immediately
> > > below your email addresses).
> > >
> > > On the next page, you'll find a list of
> > > "Special Offers & Marketing Communications,"
> > > followed by the line "I would like to receive
> > > information about..." and a list of services
> > > Yahoo is offering.  You'll also find all
> > > the "Yes" buttons checked.
> > >
> > > Check the "No" button of each service you do
> > > not desire.
> > >
> > > Now scroll down to the bottom, where it says
> > > "Other Delivery: Indicate other ways you want
> > > to receive the special offers and marketing
> > > communications you have selected."
> > >
> > > You'll find the options "via U.S. mail" and
> > > "via phone" checked "Yes."  If you don't want
> > > these options, check "No."
> > >
> > > Finally, at bottom-right, click on the "Save
> > > Changes" button.
>
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From: John Turpin <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Fwd: (blade 2 spam)
Date: 03 Apr 2002 16:30:30 -0600

At 1:24 PM -0800 4/3/02, Matt Olson wrote:

>anyone else get this?  i have my suspicions that my name was taken
>from mobility.... >:o

LARTs have been deployed.

...Gettin' aggressive toward the spammers who use university
resources for personal profit.

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From: Rob <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Fwd: (blade 2 spam)
Date: 04 Apr 2002 00:34:53 +0200

Just reply with lots of text in the message, and use the word PATHETIC in capitals in the
subject.
Or anything similar .... Let's mail 'm down ...

Rob

PS yes I got it too

Matt Olson wrote:

> anyone else get this?  i have my suspicions that my name was taken from mobility.... >:o
>
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From: Eric <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Fwd: (blade 2 spam)
Date: 03 Apr 2002 14:36:49 -0800 (PST)

KICK SOME ASS!!

EricTheRed

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From: Rob <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Fwd: (blade 2 spam)
Date: 04 Apr 2002 00:57:46 +0200

PPS Just have sent a mail containing 2.6 Mb of text ... a couple of times .... if everybody
joins in ....

Rob

Rob wrote:

> Just reply with lots of text in the message, and use the word PATHETIC in capitals in the
> subject.
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From: "Scott S." <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Fwd: (blade 2 spam)
Date: 03 Apr 2002 18:04:03 -0500

Wow, one piece of spam (I got it twice, actually) and 10 messages about =
it in Mobility. I guess it's high time for "Stars" to drop or anything =
else...

----- Original Message -----=20
Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2002 4:24 PM


> anyone else get this?  i have my suspicions that my name was taken =
from mobility.... >:o
>=20
> -matt
> *********** BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE  ***********
>=20
> On 4/3/2002 at 12:40 PM Chris LeMaster <[e-mail]> wrote:
>=20
> >
> >How's it going? I'm writing to see if you would like to help out with =
an=20
> >online campaign for the Blade 2 Soundtrack since you're a Moby fan. =
To
> >tell=20
> >you a little bit more about the soundtrack, it has twelve tracks that =

> >various artists have collaborate on including: Eve & Fatboy Slim, Ice =
Cube=20
> >& Paul Oakenfold, Cypress Hill & Roni Size, Redman & Gorillaz, Busta
> >Rhymes=20
> >& Dub Pistols, Mystikal & Moby, plus more. The album was released on =
March=20
> >19 and I'm looking for people to spread the word about the album =
online by=20
> >posting messages at websites, e-mailing and instant messaging people, =

> >spending a little time in chat areas, and sending MP3's. There is no =
time=20
> >requirements, but the more you help out, the more you will be =
rewarded
> >with=20
> >cool stuff like an URB Magazine Subscription, Free CDs, ProKed Shoes, =
DM2=20
> >Music Mixer, Osiris G-Bag and more. If you are truly interested in =
helping=20
> >out, join the team at =
http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/blade2soundtrack
> >or=20
> >e-mail me at [e-mail]. I hope you can be a part of the =
Blade 2=20
> >Team. If you want to see all of the artists on the record and check =
out=20
> >some of the tracks go to www.urb.com/blade2.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Chris
> >
> >
>=20
> *********** END FORWARDED MESSAGE  ***********
>=20
>=20
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Subject: (mobility) Promo CD
Date: 03 Apr 2002 18:57:51 EST


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Hey Everyone,
       Isn't exciting? Moby, coming out with a new album.  I haven't been on
mobility long enough to have experienced the rise of play, but I'm sure it
was much like this.  I'm so excited that we can all share in the anticipation
of his new album.  I noticed on the FTP, which by the way, thank you for
running it bart... I noticed that there seems to be a promo CD, an Album at
that.  Someone got their hands on this? Bart?  If so, do you know of any way
I could get ahold of a copy? preferably an original, but burn would do.
Also, does anyone have any lowdowns on how to go about meeting moby? At the
two shows that I saw him in I wasn't able to meet him afterwards, major
bummer... but thats the way it goes I guess... unless any of you have any
ins.  If you did, I'd really really really apreciate it if you filled me in.
Thanks!
       Hope everyone is having an good spring and is enjoying what they've
heard of good ol' moby so far.  Later - Peace
                                     -Nick

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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  COLOR="#400080" SIZE=3>Hey Everyone,<BR>
       Isn't exciting? Moby, coming out with a new album.  I haven't been on mobility long enough to have experienced the rise of play, but I'm sure it was much like this.  I'm so excited that we can all share in the anticipation of his new album.  I noticed on the FTP, which by the way, thank you for running it bart... I noticed that there seems to be a promo CD, an Album at that.  Someone got their hands on this? Bart?  If so, do you know of any way I could get ahold of a copy? preferably an original, but burn would do.  Also, does anyone have any lowdowns on how to go about meeting moby? At the two shows that I saw him in I wasn't able to meet him afterwards, major bummer... but thats the way it goes I guess... unless any of you have any ins.  If you did, I'd really really really apreciate it if you filled me in.  Thanks!<BR>
       Hope everyone is having an good spring and is enjoying what they've heard of good ol' moby so far.  Later - Peace<BR>
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From: "Bart van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Promo CD
Date: 04 Apr 2002 08:48:41 +0200

>I noticed that there seems to be a promo CD, an Album at
>that.  Someone got their hands on this? Bart?  If so, do you know of any
way
>I could get ahold of a copy? preferably an original, but burn would do.

No, it wasn't me. I'm not going to pay THAT ammount of money just so that I
can have a month of 18 for myself. I'll nicely wait 'till it gets released
on May the 13th. here in Europe.

Oh, and yes, I got the Blade 2 spam too. Hell, I don't even like the music
that's on it :( I also got some amil about Blade 2 before, a few days after
release of the album with the question if I wasn't interested in putting up
a banner on my site.

As for meeting Moby, I have never met him myself, nor even see him perform
in real life for that matter (BAD, I know...) so I have no clues how to get
into contact with him.

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From: Rob <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Blade 2 spammer
Date: 04 Apr 2002 16:52:02 +0200

And NOW they're apologizing ... it's getting weirder all the time ...

Rob

Chris LeMaster wrote:

> I want to apologize for the previous e mail.  In no way did I mean to upset
> you or bother you.  Once again, I want to apologize.  Take care
>
> Chris
>
> At 12:16 AM 4/4/2002 +0200, you wrote:
> >Music companys and what they won't do to get some extra cash .... pathetic
> >....
> >PATHETIC!
> >


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From: BRIAN HOVEY <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Fwd: (blade 2 spam)
Date: 04 Apr 2002 08:12:07 -0800 (PST)

What makes this so bad is it seems taht everyone on
the list got the same mail which means it all came
frome some one on the list or someone ganked all of
our names.
Im  asking this to damian "How could this happen??"

On the other handk this group on Yahoo never even
existed.


Bri
--- Cyberscot <[e-mail]> wrote:
>  I just got that as well and I E-mailed him back to
> see how he got hold of my address - it seems pretty
> clear how he did now though.
>


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From: BRIAN HOVEY <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Fwd: (blade 2 spam)
Date: 04 Apr 2002 08:17:51 -0800 (PST)

i JUST SENT OUT 110 MAILS LOADED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
god i love revenge!!

Bri


--- Rob <[e-mail]> wrote:
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> the word PATHETIC in capitals in the
> subject.
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From: Christine <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) meeting moby
Date: 04 Apr 2002 11:22:03 -0500

so I've met Moby before and the suggestions I had from people on here were
really helpful - I hope my advice is just as helpful.
What you have to have first is patience... in time you can meet him. Don't
expect to meet him at a big show - he probably leaves in some back area
that you have no way of getting access to unless you have an upper hand
with someone working at the event. I met him at the show he did at
Rochester Institute of Technology. The show wasn't really large and the
bus was sitting just outside the doors for him. When he walked outside he
was greeted by about 25 of us or something. He spent time meeting all of
us and talking to all of us. He's the most down to earth person that is
famous that I've ever met. Yet another reason why I love Moby.
...what i'd do to go ha ve orange juice with him... :-D if you know what i
mean!
hope that helps. just keep tryin' - you'll meet him eventually! and it is
worth the wait.

christine


On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, Bart van Eijck wrote:

> >I noticed that there seems to be a promo CD, an Album at
> >that.  Someone got their hands on this? Bart?  If so, do you know of any
> way
> >I could get ahold of a copy? preferably an original, but burn would do.
>
> No, it wasn't me. I'm not going to pay THAT ammount of money just so that I
> can have a month of 18 for myself. I'll nicely wait 'till it gets released
> on May the 13th. here in Europe.
>
> Oh, and yes, I got the Blade 2 spam too. Hell, I don't even like the music
> that's on it :( I also got some amil about Blade 2 before, a few days after
> release of the album with the question if I wasn't interested in putting up
> a banner on my site.
>
> As for meeting Moby, I have never met him myself, nor even see him perform
> in real life for that matter (BAD, I know...) so I have no clues how to get
> into contact with him.
>
> Bart
>
>
>
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From: blue armadillo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Fwd: (blade 2 spam)
Date: 04 Apr 2002 08:48:30 -0800 (PST)

i got an email that he got my email off of the
moby.org website.

--- BRIAN HOVEY <[e-mail]> wrote:
> What makes this so bad is it seems taht everyone on
> the list got the same mail which means it all came
> frome some one on the list or someone ganked all of
> our names.
> Im  asking this to damian "How could this happen??"
>
> On the other handk this group on Yahoo never even
> existed.
>
>
> Bri
> --- Cyberscot <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >  I just got that as well and I E-mailed him back
> to
> > see how he got hold of my address - it seems
> pretty
> > clear how he did now though.
> >
>
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From: paradox <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Senor Moby heads up
Date: 04 Apr 2002 11:58:31 -0500

For any who didn't see the news update on moby.com, episode 3 of
Senor Moby will air on MTV on Friday night/Saturday morning at
midnight.  I've searched through the MTV schedule for another airdate
for this episode and couldn't find any, so this could be your only
chance.  Don't miss it!

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From: paradox <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) "We are all made of stars" rare mixes
Date: 04 Apr 2002 12:03:05 -0500

If anyone has the promo only Timo Maas and Bob Sinclair remixes of
"Stars", you should upload them to the fabulous mobility FTP.

Or, if you have a fast internet connection and some patience, they
appear to be on a few ratio FTP sites.  Search for them over at
www.oth.net and you should find the sites.  I'm going to make an
effort to get them, but I only have a 28.8 dialup to work with, so it
may take some time.

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From: mark <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Fwd: (blade 2 spam)
Date: 04 Apr 2002 13:30:32 -0500 (EST)

well, i checked the headers on one of the 4 copies of the email i got from
him, and it showed it went through the lists.xmission.com server, so he
pretty much must of hijacked the list.
i emailed one of the main blade2 street-team people about it.
cheers,
    -mark

On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, blue armadillo wrote:
> i got an email that he got my email off of the
> moby.org website.
>
> --- BRIAN HOVEY <[e-mail]> wrote:
> > What makes this so bad is it seems taht everyone on
> > the list got the same mail which means it all came
> > frome some one on the list or someone ganked all of
> > our names.
> > Im  asking this to damian "How could this happen??"
> >
> > On the other handk this group on Yahoo never even
> > existed.
> >
> >
> > Bri
> > --- Cyberscot <[e-mail]> wrote:
> > >  I just got that as well and I E-mailed him back
> > to
> > > see how he got hold of my address - it seems
> > pretty
> > > clear how he did now though.
> > >
> >
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From: "Scott S." <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Fwd: (blade 2 spam)
Date: 04 Apr 2002 14:37:28 -0500

> On the other handk this group on Yahoo never even
> existed.

I'm sure it did exist, and Yahoo yanked it after complaints regarding =
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From: blue armadillo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Fwd: (blade 2 spam)
Date: 04 Apr 2002 12:46:15 -0800 (PST)

i think that is how i found this group--on the yahoo
boards.

--- "Scott S." <[e-mail]> wrote:
> > On the other handk this group on Yahoo never even
> > existed.
>
> I'm sure it did exist, and Yahoo yanked it after
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From: "Blanco, Ruben A." <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) New Moby video & News!!!!!! :)
Date: 04 Apr 2002 16:02:58 -0700

Hey folks,

Moby's new video "We Are All Made of Stars" will premiere tomorrow during
MTV's TRL being hosted by Nelly Furtado.

Moby Cavorts With Gary Coleman, Todd Bridges In New Video. How funny/cool
will that be. Actors Corey Feldman, Gary Coleman, Todd Bridges, Thora Birch,
Vern "Mini Me" Troyer and Hollywood incarnate, Ron Jeremy, were just a
smattering of the talent on hand to take part in the clip, along with Dave
Navarro and Tommy Lee.

Check out the news at:
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1452825/20020311/story.jhtml
and
http://www.mtv.com/bands/az/moby/artist.jhtml

There is a real video stream of the Moby - We are all made of Stars new
Video, I just saw it and it was great!!!! Lots of "Stars." There is so much
going on in the video that I am not going to list everything. MOBY IS
FEATURED IN THE VIDEO WEARING A NASA Space Astronaut Suit, he kinda seems
like an angel walking through Hollywood with all of these Stars and he is
like an angel (with a Space Suit on) walking through their lives.

WOW!!!

Can't wait for the new album release. I thought it was set to be released in
April? Now it is to be released in MAY????? Or is the official We are all
made of stars to be released in April and 18 is to be released in MAY? After
hearing Landing and Soul of Love I don't think I can wait much longer. Any
Promo CDs out yet? Any Mobility members obtained any yet?

Killjoy had Play Promo before official release on FTP, Bart how about 18?
We will all be rushing out to purchase the CD once it is out anyways.

Thanks,
Ruben

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From: Christopher Michael Bourke <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) New Moby video & News!!!!!! :)
Date: 04 Apr 2002 18:30:02 -0600 (CST)



> Can't wait for the new album release. I thought it was set to be released in
> April? Now it is to be released in MAY????? Or is the official We are all
> made of stars to be released in April and 18 is to be released in MAY? After

Yes, the single is to be released on the 23rd, and  18 is to be released
on May 14th.  These are american release dates, so Euros must check their
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From: "Shaun Rader" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) New Moby video & News!!!!!! :)
Date: 04 Apr 2002 17:41:12 -0800

Christopher Michael Bourke

> Yes, the single is to be released on the 23rd, and  18 is to
> be released on May 14th.  These are american release dates,
> so Euros must check their own country's release dates.

Is the US getting the single on April 23rd?  Amazon.com seems to only have
the UK import singles for pre-sale.  If we have to get the import singles we
might as well buy them from a UK site (it ends up being cheaper)...

I wish they could put all 6 tracks or so (from the 2 import singles) on one
US single.  Is that too much to ask?


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Subject: (mobility) confused
Date: 04 Apr 2002 17:52:32 -0800 (PST)

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I never got that Blade soundtrack endorsement email.
I've been on Mobility for only a few months, but if these Blade soundtrack people got names and emails from the mobility name list, why didn't everyone get spammed?  (not that I'm complaining, mind you....)
firefly
PS: do you think it's because i don't post much?  (this is only the second time i've written in.)



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From: mark <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) stars video online
Date: 04 Apr 2002 20:52:32 -0500 (EST)

heya kids,
got the stars vid watchable in realvideo for both fast and slow
connections, linked up from http://www.mobymusic.com/update.html
trl's not really premiering it overall, it's just the mtv premiere i
guess, as m2 said they'd start showing it this past day, and you can watch
it online now and whatnot (so go do so).
cheers,
    -mark
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Subject: RE: (mobility) confused
Date: 04 Apr 2002 18:01:31 -0800

Carly Trumann wrote:
>PS: do you think it's because i don't post much?  (this
>is only the second time i've written in.)

Yeah maybe they didn't hack into the group/mailing list or whatever.. but
just sat and collected e-mail addresses from the posts?  I don't post that
much but I have recently and I got the spam.


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it was just a guess and all
usually it seems they think you might be down with the idea
r at least it seems?
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From: Arcya Self <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) stars video online
Date: 05 Apr 2002 01:28:47 -0800 (PST)

Wow - thanks!

From the descriptions, I didn't think the video could
be that cool, but it's great.  Mostly because everyone
is pensive in that Moby sort of way.  And because Moby
is so Moby.  It's a bit frightening to see him OD on
LA in the middle of a Jons frozen food isle (I saw
Oscar de la Joya in a Santa Monica Jons just a few
months ago).

Dr.Killpatient says, "The song is surprisingly plain &
ordinary but somehow it's really good.  It's much
better with the video.  But I don't see it becoming a
hit."  And he's flattered some people here still
remember the old days.

"King of the Hill" is cracking me up - gotta go.

love&desert sand in my boots,
- malfunctiongirl gabriele

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Subject: Re: (mobility) confused
Date: 05 Apr 2002 05:57:10 -0800 (PST)

aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh!
--- [e-mail] wrote:
> archives.
>


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From: blue armadillo <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) confused
Date: 05 Apr 2002 06:26:18 -0800 (PST)

again, the email i got from the spammer said that he
got my email off of the moby.org website.

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> Carly Trumann wrote:
> >PS: do you think it's because i don't post much?
> (this
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>
> Yeah maybe they didn't hack into the group/mailing
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From: Rob <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) confused
Date: 05 Apr 2002 17:22:57 +0200

There are archives on moby.org until july 2000, but there is a link to
the official archives:
ftp://ftp.xmission.com/pub/lists/mobility/
(in case anybody wants to read back)

Rob

blue armadillo wrote:

> again, the email i got from the spammer said that he
> got my email off of the moby.org website.


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Moby on Mancow
Date: 05 Apr 2002 14:02:40 EST

Did anyone happen to tape Moby on the Mancow show this morning??  (it's on
q101 here in chicago, but i think it's broadcast around the country).  I'd
love to get a copy.  I went down to the studios and met Moby after he was on
and he drew me a little pic and we took a photo together.  It was AWESOME
(first time i ever met him), so yeah.  If u taped it, drop me a line.

thanx
Cal
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From: martinjames <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Martin James - LPC problems?
Date: 06 Apr 2002 16:29:10 +0100

Ummm, just trying to get to the bottom of this one. From what I can gather
the main effect it will have on me is that I won't receive any royalties
from the US after my advance has been recovered. Which really means that
this book has turned out to be a complete labour of love!

The book also be withdrawn from stock until a new distributor can be found,
so if any one still wants one the best bet would be to buy it when you see
it somewhere. it won't be around for much longer.

Incidentally the book sold pretty well in the US, but turned out to be a
turkey in the UK. Brits just aren't that interested in:
a/ Moby
b/ reading
c/ reading about moby

A new version has just been translated for Italy and will hit the stands
soon and I've had a couple of bites from Japan. Anyone any ideas about his
popularity over there. Sales?

thanks for your concern Steve

Martin




> Martin,
>
> I remember when your Moby biography came out, and the LPC group contacted me
> and sent me a review copy. Do they handle all North American distibution for
> your book? I'm just curious if their bankruptcy filing today has affected
> you, sice many other folks I know using LPC to get their books into Borders,
> Barnes & Noble, etc, are all owed money by this company. Also, will this
> affect the book's availability? Will it still be around if this distibutor
> goes belly-up?
>
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Subject: (mobility) moby<tm> on the cover of Wired
Date: 06 Apr 2002 22:35:57 -0600

Moby<tm> is the cover story of the new Wired. The story basically
confirms the discussions on this list regarding the machine that has
formed to promote Moby<tm>'s music.

Lots of other interesting stories, too, like laptop music and the
machines that defined techno.

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From: mark <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) passing along an apology for the blade 2 spam
Date: 08 Apr 2002 01:01:58 -0400 (EDT)

hey there,
i know this is kinda rehash, the hwole blade2 spam issue, but i talked to
the guy who did it, and he's quite sorry. i don't think he meant for as
many copies of as many messages to get sent out, and he promisses it won't
happen again, and he didn't keep anyone's email addresses on file or
anything.
hope yer all well.
cheers,
    -mark

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From: _bjorkdoll <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) any questions?
Date: 08 Apr 2002 12:13:35 -0700 (PDT)

hey guys... i won a local contest here in seattle where i get to "spend a
day with moby" and i'll be able to ask some questions while i'm in the
studio with him..  so i'm trying to get together a bunch of questions - if
you have any, send 'em along!   :)

: sarah :
: i like this resonance :
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From: "Bart van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) any questions?
Date: 08 Apr 2002 23:36:03 +0200

>hey guys... i won a local contest here in seattle where i get to "spend a
>day with moby" and i'll be able to ask some questions while i'm in the
>studio with him..  so i'm trying to get together a bunch of questions - if
>you have any, send 'em along!   :)

Well, you could ask him why he's such an ass lately, following the record
companies like a puppy and not wanting/daring to speak out his real feelings
on delicate matters like he used to do.

But then again, this queation would probably spoil the day... I hope you
have a really great time with mr. Mobes. I wish I could win such a contest
once and have a nice conversation with the man.

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From: "Matt Olson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Moby - 18 - FTP
Date: 08 Apr 2002 15:12:26 -0700

Hola, the reason I ask this again is because, well, I actually delete=
 e-mails to save space every now and then:  What is the FTP information=
 once more?

I've managed to score almost all of "18" and would be happy to share, that=
 is, if this is something of interest to all of you.

ta ta,


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From: Rob <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby - 18 - FTP
Date: 09 Apr 2002 00:32:37 +0200

Does anyone want a peek!!??? OFFCOURSE we want to peek ...

Rob

Here's what Bart wrote in a previous email:

> ----------------------------
> Oh, just a thing:
>
> The login and password are case sensitive, forgot to tell that. (so Mobility with capital M)
>
> for the webbrowser:
> ===============
> ftp://Mobility:[e-mail]
>
> for the ftp client:
> ============
> address: mobyfan.dhs.org
> login: Mobility
> pass: the_best_mailinglist

Matt Olson wrote:

> Hola, the reason I ask this again is because, well, I actually delete e-mails to save space every now and then:  What is the FTP information once more?
>
> I've managed to score almost all of "18" and would be happy to share, that is, if this is something of interest to all of you.
>
> ta ta,
>
> -Matt


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From: chris <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) Moby - 18 - FTP
Date: 08 Apr 2002 18:34:41 -0400

I just got the whole thing, ripped by ESC today, knew it was just a
matter of time. =20

I'll be uploading it in one moment.  The ftp is mobyfan.dhs.org
login:mobility   password: the_best_mailinglist

Looks like I got 30k u/l rate, so shouldn't take long.

Chris


=F9=F9  T R A C K   L I S T  =F9=F9      =DB  =B0=B0=B1=DB=DF       =B0 =
=DB =B0=B2=DD
        =B0                                    =DB   =B0=DB=DD          =
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        =B0                                    =
=DB=DC=DC=DC=DC=DB=DC=DC=DC      =B0  =DF=B2=DF=20
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             No.    Track                                 Time  =B0  =20
        =B0
          ------------------------------------------------------ =20

             01     We Are All Made Of Stars              4:32 =20
             02     In This World                         4:02 =20
             03     In My Heart                           4:36 =20
             04     The Great Escape                      2:09 =20
             05     Signs Of Love                         4:25 =20
             06     One Of These Mornings                 3:13 =20
             07     Another Woman                         3:56 =20
             08     Fireworks                             2:13 =20
             09     Extreme Ways                          3:57 =20
             10     Jam For The Ladies                    3:22 =20
             11     Sunday (The Day Before My             5:09 =20
                    Birthday)                       =20
             12     18                                    4:28 =20
             13     Sleep Alone                           4:45 =20
             14     At Least We Tried                     4:08 =20
             15     Harbour                               6:27 =20
             16     Look Back In                          2:20 =20
             17     The Rafters                           3:22 =20
             18     I'm not Worried At All                4:11 =20

                                                 ----------------
                                              total time: 71:15

C

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Hola, the reason I ask this again is because, well, I actually delete
e-mails to save space every now and then:  What is the FTP information
once more?

I've managed to score almost all of "18" and would be happy to share,
that is, if this is something of interest to all of you. =20

ta ta,


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From: Eric <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) any questions?
Date: 08 Apr 2002 15:37:11 -0700 (PDT)


  Wow!  That's so amazing!!  Let's see.  Questions to
ask Moby.  I don't know any questions to ask him.  I'd
feel really foolish asking him a question because I'll
probably ask him something stupid.  UGH!

EricTheRed

> hey guys... i won a local contest here in seattle
> where i get to "spend a
> day with moby" and i'll be able to ask some
> questions while i'm in the
> studio with him..  so i'm trying to get together a
> bunch of questions - if
> you have any, send 'em along!   :)


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From: Eric <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby - 18 - FTP
Date: 08 Apr 2002 15:40:37 -0700 (PDT)


  Well you should upload all of 18 onto the ftp site
in a folder entitled 18 so we can all get a look at
it. :)

EricTheRed

> Hola, the reason I ask this again is because, well,
> I actually delete e-mails to save space every now
> and then:  What is the FTP information once more?
>
> I've managed to score almost all of "18" and would
> be happy to share, that is, if this is something of
> interest to all of you.


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Subject: Re: (mobility) moby<tm> on the cover of Wired
Date: 08 Apr 2002 15:51:07 -0700 (PDT)


   hahahaha I gotta pick this up!  Orrrrrrrrrrr just
read it at Barnes and Noble or something.  Sweet!  I'm
glad someone is able to push some of this HIS way and
show him that we aren't going to sit here and watch
him sell his soul to the devil.  If he does, he might
be in a private little hell JUSSSSSSSSSSSST like Homer
Simpson was when he was eating 'all the donuts the
world' in that Halloween episode.  But Moby would be
eating 'all the meat in the world'.  hehe

EricTheRed

> Moby<tm> is the cover story of the new Wired. The
> story basically confirms the discussions on this
list regarding the
> machine that has
> formed to promote Moby<tm>'s music.

> Lots of other interesting stories, too, like laptop
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Date: 08 Apr 2002 15:52:47 -0700 (PDT)


    I'll bet he's just upset that he did it because of
the backlash he caused.  That email address is
probably all screwed up by now.

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Subject: RE: (mobility) Moby - 18 - FTP
Date: 08 Apr 2002 16:16:37 -0700

wheeee rock on!  much better, since i'm missing "18"

thanks!

-matt

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>I just got the whole thing, ripped by ESC today, knew it was just a
>matter of time.
>
>I'll be uploading it in one moment.  The ftp is mobyfan.dhs.org
>login:mobility   password: the_best_mailinglist
>
>Looks like I got 30k u/l rate, so shouldn't take long.
>
>Chris



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Subject: RE: (mobility) Moby - 18 - FTP
Date: 08 Apr 2002 16:24:37 -0700

So for those of us who haven't heard it yet... how is it??  I'm very
curious what people's initial impressions are.  I can tell you right now I
am shocked it's 71 minutes.  I can't wait to hear it thanks for getting it
guys!

At 04:16 PM 4/8/2002 -0700, Matt wrote:
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Subject: RE: (mobility) Moby - 18 - FTP
Date: 08 Apr 2002 16:27:19 -0700

so far -
it reminds me of a quentin tarantino movie soundtrack with moby's usual=
 peaceful melodies in the background.  very full of soul.  and honestly,=
 not very "exciting" or "fresh".... but we'll see.

-matt


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>curious what people's initial impressions are.  I can tell you right now I=

>am shocked it's 71 minutes.  I can't wait to hear it thanks for getting it=

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From: chris <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) Moby - 18 - FTP
Date: 08 Apr 2002 19:53:34 -0400

I haven't had a chance to listen to it yet, I just peeked through the
tracks though, lots of guest vocals, seems more downtempo than play was,
definitely not a guitar driven album.

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 7:25 PM

So for those of us who haven't heard it yet... how is it??  I'm very
curious what people's initial impressions are.  I can tell you right now
I
am shocked it's 71 minutes.  I can't wait to hear it thanks for getting
it
guys!

At 04:16 PM 4/8/2002 -0700, Matt wrote:
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Subject: Re: (mobility) any questions?
Date: 08 Apr 2002 17:05:26 -0700 (PDT)

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 Sarah-
Where did you enter a "spend a day with moby" contest??  What an awesome idea!  I am envious...
Anyhoo, will you ask him, please, how long he's been a vegan and also what's in the works for the much-anticipated area:two festival everybody's hoping for this year?
merci buckets!
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From: John Turpin <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) any questions?
Date: 08 Apr 2002 20:05:47 -0500

>  hey guys... i won a local contest here in seattle
>  where i get to "spend a
>  day with moby" and i'll be able to ask some
>  questions while i'm in the
>  studio with him..  so i'm trying to get together a
>  bunch of questions - if
>  you have any, send 'em along!   :)

Ask him if he minds us downloading the new album in its entirety tonight. :)

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Subject: Re: (mobility) any questions?
Date: 08 Apr 2002 20:06:49 -0500

At 5:05 PM -0700 4/8/02, firefly_freedancer wrote:

>what's in the works for the much-anticipated area:two festival
>everybody's hoping for this year?

BTW, there's some info about this in the new _Wired_.

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From: Arcya Self <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) any questions?
Date: 08 Apr 2002 19:25:17 -0700 (PDT)

--- firefly_freedancer wrote:
> Where did you enter a "spend a day with moby"
> contest??  What an awesome idea!  I am envious...

Here in the SF Bay Area there's a contest like that,
too.  For anyone here lives in the area, just go to
live105.com.  If you win, on Wednesday you get to
interview Moby on the air (along with a DJ) and you
get $105 bucks to spend at a record store with him.  I
just entered, but if I didn't win I'd be happy if a
fellow mobility-head won.

love&luck,
- malfunctiongirl gabriele

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From: Arcya Self <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) any questions?
Date: 08 Apr 2002 19:36:57 -0700 (PDT)

Oops,

Please disregard that last message.  I just looked
back on the site & they shouldn't be allowing people
(like me) to enter anymore.  It was supposed to close
yesterday.

love&harsh disappointment,
- mg

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Date: 08 Apr 2002 23:26:27 -0400

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I'm sorry, but this album seems really lackluster to me.
It sounds like he has done this album already, it is like the same
formula as play with a bit of everything is wrong to shake things up.
The 2nd song In This World has the same string pad and chord as my
weakness, and the 3rd song - In My heart, just reminds me of the
arpegiated piano of Hymn.
That string pad is used all over and everything on this album, to where
it overshadows.  I mean I know it's a signature sound of his with the
string pad, but what about guitar, did he forget how to play it?
The vocals seem to be the less prioritized item in the recordings also.
The dirty vocal sample thing and put music behind it is of course back
again.  Then another bodyrock dance song called Jam for the Ladies.
I mean of course the album has its moments, but it's almost like these
are songs from the Play sessions.  I honestly got bored on the first
listen.
Maybe if I listen to it more I can get more into it.  Nothing isn't
really standing out to me at this moment I guess.  Some of the rhythms
and melodies just seem like he has done them before.

Sorry if I sound cynical, I'm sure others will find this to be a great
album, and that's cool also.

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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it is like the same formula as play with a bit of everything is wrong to shake
things up.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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album, to where it overshadows.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span>I mean
I know it’s a signature sound of his with the string pad, but what about
guitar, did he forget how to play it?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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recordings also.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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almost like these are songs from the Play sessions.<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span>I honestly got bored on the first
listen.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Maybe if I listen to it more I can get more into it.<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span><span class=GramE>Nothing isn’t
really standing out to me at this moment I guess.</span><span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span>Some of the rhythms and melodies just
seem like he has done them before.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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Subject: Re: (mobility) a bit of an opinion on the new album
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So far, I agree with you, Chris.  However, I've not listened to it all the=
 way through, so I'll be able to formulate something more in-depth then.=
  Right now, It's just not sounding like the Moby that I've enjoyed so much=
 for the past years.  It's just "blah"

-Matt
*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********

On 4/8/2002 at 11:26 PM chris wrote:
I=92m sorry, but this album seems really lackluster to me.
It sounds like he has done this album already, it is like the same formula=
 as play with a bit of everything is wrong to shake things up.
The 2nd song In This World has the same string pad and chord as my=
 weakness, and the 3rd song =96 In My heart, just reminds me of the=
 arpegiated piano of Hymn.
That string pad is used all over and everything on this album, to where it=
 overshadows.  I mean I know it=92s a signature sound of his with the=
 string pad, but what about guitar, did he forget how to play it?
The vocals seem to be the less prioritized item in the recordings also.
The dirty vocal sample thing and put music behind it is of course back=
 again.  Then another bodyrock dance song called Jam for the Ladies.
I mean of course the album has its moments, but it=92s almost like these=
 are songs from the Play sessions.  I honestly got bored on the first=
 listen.
Maybe if I listen to it more I can get more into it.  Nothing isn=92t=
 really standing out to me at this moment I guess.  Some of the rhythms and=
 melodies just seem like he has done them before.

Sorry if I sound cynical, I=92m sure others will find this to be a great=
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chris




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<DIV>So far, I agree with you, Chris.  However, I've not listened to it all
the way through, so I'll be able to formulate something more in-depth
then.  Right now, It's just not sounding like the Moby that I've enjoyed so
much for the past years.  It's just "blah"</DIV>
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  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The 2<SUP>nd</SUP> song In This
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  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
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From: mark <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby<tm> on the cover of Wired
Date: 09 Apr 2002 02:34:30 -0400 (EDT)

> show him that we aren't going to sit here and watch
> him sell his soul to the devil.  If he does, he might
> be in a private little hell JUSSSSSSSSSSSST like Homer
> Simpson was when he was eating 'all the donuts the
> world' in that Halloween episode.

don't worry, i've got his soul, remember?
so it'd be more like the episode where milhouse gets bart's soul...
*grin*
cheers,
    -mark

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Subject: Re: (mobility) moby<tm> on the cover of Wired
Date: 08 Apr 2002 23:45:38 -0700 (PDT)


  How much did he sell it to you for?

EricTheRed

> don't worry, i've got his soul, remember?
> so it'd be more like the episode where milhouse gets
> bart's soul...
> *grin*
> cheers,
>     -mark


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From: Ulrik <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) 18 sounds like...
Date: 09 Apr 2002 13:09:43 +0200

So far i've only heard to tracks, "at least we tried" and "the great
escape". But both these reminds me VERY much of the band "this mortal
coil", a project runned/produced by the labelbosses from 4ad (an UK indie
label) and performed by different constellations between the original 4ad
groups (pixies, cocteau twins, dead can dance etc).

BTW: Sounding like "this mortal coil" is not a bad thing to
do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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From: BRIAN HOVEY <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) any questions?
Date: 09 Apr 2002 06:07:54 -0700 (PDT)

I would like to know why he just wont sever his ties
with record companys and form his own where he can
actually control what and how his music gets used.


Bri




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From: "Elie Franca" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) any questions?
Date: 09 Apr 2002 09:12:47 -0400

<html><div style='background-color:'><DIV>umm..i just watched the STARS video and i was real amuzed by the number of "STARS" on the video...</DIV>
<DIV>all interesting character..</DIV>
<DIV>BUT WHAT THE HELL IS AN NSYNC MEMBER DOING IN THAT FUCKING VIDEO??</DIV>
<DIV>HOLY SHIT!!!  </DIV>
<DIV>i guess it adds to the whole thematic concept of the video..just caught me by surprise...</DIV>
<DIV>love you all..</DIV>
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From: BRIAN HOVEY <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) any questions?
Date: 09 Apr 2002 06:27:47 -0700 (PDT)

here is the link to read the artical

http://www.wired.com:80/wired/archive/10.05/

Bri


> >what's in the works for the much-anticipated
> area:two festival
> >everybody's hoping for this year?
>
> BTW, there's some info about this in the new
> _Wired_.
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From: BRIAN HOVEY <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) any questions?
Date: 09 Apr 2002 06:40:28 -0700 (PDT)

I got to ask.............how the hell did you know it
was an member from nsuck? oh,, i ment nsync? :)

Bri


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THAT FUCKING VIDEO??</DIV>
<DIV>HOLY SHIT!!!  </DIV>
<DIV>i guess it adds to the whole thematic concept of
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Subject: (mobility) getiting 18 from FTP
Date: 09 Apr 2002 14:35:37

<html><div style='background-color:'><DIV>Is anyone else having problems getting it.  I guess it's</DIV>
<DIV>very busy with all of us so curious about the new album.</DIV>
<DIV>It said there were 421 users.  Wow that seems like a lot!!!!</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>wanting 18</DIV>
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From: "Scott S." <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) any questions?
Date: 09 Apr 2002 11:43:27 -0400

I think he wants his music heard by as many people as possible, and =
that's typically hard to do on one's own...

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> I would like to know why he just wont sever his ties
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Date: 09 Apr 2002 12:00:32 -0400

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Play seemed like a concept album to me and I enjoyed it, I didn't think
it was something that needed to be pursued again on a new album though.
It's almost like now he has become more of an arranger than a musician.

chris

-----Original Message-----
[mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Matt Olson
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 1:29 AM

So far, I agree with you, Chris.  However, I've not listened to it all
the way through, so I'll be able to formulate something more in-depth
then.  Right now, It's just not sounding like the Moby that I've enjoyed
so much for the past years.  It's just "blah"

-Matt
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On 4/8/2002 at 11:26 PM chris wrote:
I'm sorry, but this album seems really lackluster to me.
It sounds like he has done this album already, it is like the same
formula as play with a bit of everything is wrong to shake things up.
The 2nd song In This World has the same string pad and chord as my
weakness, and the 3rd song - In My heart, just reminds me of the
arpegiated piano of Hymn.
That string pad is used all over and everything on this album, to where
it overshadows.  I mean I know it's a signature sound of his with the
string pad, but what about guitar, did he forget how to play it?
The vocals seem to be the less prioritized item in the recordings also.
The dirty vocal sample thing and put music behind it is of course back
again.  Then another bodyrock dance song called Jam for the Ladies.
I mean of course the album has its moments, but it's almost like these
are songs from the Play sessions.  I honestly got bored on the first
listen.
Maybe if I listen to it more I can get more into it.  Nothing isn't
really standing out to me at this moment I guess.  Some of the rhythms
and melodies just seem like he has done them before.

Sorry if I sound cynical, I'm sure others will find this to be a great
album, and that's cool also.

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Play seemed like a concept album to me and I enjoyed it, I
didn’t think it was something that needed to be pursued again on a new
album though.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>It’s almost like now he has become more of an arranger
than a musician.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
[e-mail] [mailto:[e-mail]] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Matt Olson<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> </span></font><st1:date
Month="4" Day="9" Year="2002"><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> [e-mail]<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: (mobility) a bit of
an opinion on the new album</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>So far, I agree with you, Chris.  However, I've
not listened to it all the way through, so I'll be able to formulate something
more in-depth then.  Right now, It's just not sounding like the Moby that
I've enjoyed so much for the past years.  It's just "blah"<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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Hour="23" Minute="26"><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
 font-family:Arial'>11:26 PM</span></font></st1:time><font size=2 face=Arial><span
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I’m sorry, but this album
seems really lackluster to me.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>It sounds like he has done this
album already, it is like the same formula as play with a bit of everything is
wrong to shake things up.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>The 2<sup>nd</sup> song In This
World has the same string pad and chord as my weakness, and the 3<sup>rd</sup>
song – In My heart, just reminds me of the arpegiated piano of Hymn.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>That string pad is used all over and
everything on this album, to where it overshadows.<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span>I mean I know it’s a signature
sound of his with the string pad, but what about guitar, did he forget how to
play it?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>The vocals seem to be the less
prioritized item in the recordings also.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>The dirty vocal sample thing and put
music behind it is of course back again.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>
</span>Then another bodyrock dance song called Jam for the Ladies.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I mean of course the album has its
moments, but it’s almost like these are songs from the Play
sessions.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span>I honestly got bored on
the first listen.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Maybe if I listen to it more I can
get more into it.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span>Nothing
isn’t really standing out to me at this moment I guess.<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span>Some of the rhythms and melodies just
seem like he has done them before.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Sorry if I sound cynical, I’m
sure others will find this to be a great album, and that’s cool also.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>chris<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

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From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) getiting 18 from FTP
Date: 09 Apr 2002 09:11:06 -0700

At 02:35 PM 4/9/2002 +0000, Robert wrote:
>Is anyone else having problems getting it.  I guess it's
>very busy with all of us so curious about the new album.
>It said there were 421 users.  Wow that seems like a lot!!!!

I got the first 8 or 9 tracks or so.  My internet connection died on me
after that :(  But I would have to say after listening to the first 5
tracks (up through Signs Of Love which I think is just awesome) I am very
pleased.  No disappointment from me so far.

I feel like there is an added layer of complexity to some of Moby's new
stuff... Stars, Signs of Love, Landing.. all of these seem to have a lot
more going on than I'm used to with Moby.  I usually think of Moby as
simple yet brilliant music and it's exciting to hear some more complexity.

I don't mind hearing the signature string pads everywhere as I think they
sound beautiful.  I'm real glad there doesn't seem to be any Honey/Kelis
stuff going on here I really disliked that.

I can't wait to hear the rest of the tracks hopefully the album doesn't go
downhill after track 5!

Shaun


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From: elissa brown <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) 18
Date: 09 Apr 2002 09:43:15 -0700 (PDT)

"18", the track (12), sounds a lot like something that i cant put my finger on,
at about 2 minutes 30 into it. does anyone know? sounds like something, a la how
in my heart sounds like hymn.

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Subject: Re: (mobility) 18
Date: 09 Apr 2002 17:46:14 +0100 (BST)

OK so I know its been given out a million times but I
accidentally deleted it so can I get the address for
the ftp site again plese.
Cheers

 --- elissa brown <[e-mail]> wrote: >
"18", the track (12), sounds a lot like something
> that i cant put my finger on,
> at about 2 minutes 30 into it. does anyone know?
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> in my heart sounds like hymn.
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From: "Bart van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) quote
Date: 09 Apr 2002 19:52:22 +0200

Could anybody give me the exact quote in which Moby says something about we
have been listening to techno all our lives becuase something with the
heartbeat of your mom befre you are bon and the screaming woman when you
come out? You know which quote I mean :)  I want to use it in a parer I'm
going to write on electronic music for school.

thanks!

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Subject: RE: (mobility) a bit of an opinion on the new album
Date: 09 Apr 2002 12:12:46 -0700

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i'm almost wondering why we have to hear this all over again.  i still love=
 play, and have ever since it came out.  but 18 is boring the hell out of=
 me.  "in my heart" is the strongest tune, imho, but it gives me the=
 feeling of deja-vu...  what happened to the innovative muscian known as=
 moby?  popularity perhaps.

-matt


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On 4/9/2002 at 12:00 PM chris wrote:
Play seemed like a concept album to me and I enjoyed it, I didn=92t think=
 it was something that needed to be pursued again on a new album though.
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<DIV>i'm almost wondering why we have to hear this all over again.  i still
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feeling of deja-vu...  what happened to the innovative muscian known as
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Subject: Re: (mobility) getiting 18 from FTP
Date: 09 Apr 2002 12:17:21 -0700


>
>I feel like there is an added layer of complexity to some of Moby's new
>stuff... Stars, Signs of Love, Landing.. all of these seem to have a lot
>more going on than I'm used to with Moby.  I usually think of Moby as
>simple yet brilliant music and it's exciting to hear some more complexity.

for some reason, i'm feeling the direct opposite.  "stars" is a very weak=
 song, with sub-par lyrics imo.  it's like a really bad 80's song by a=
 one-man-band...


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From: "Paradise Cowgirl" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) getiting 18 from FTP
Date: 09 Apr 2002 12:22:11 -0700

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If you have access to a Usenet/News server, all the tracks have been posted
to alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.2000s; two of the tracks (first and last) are
missing the last post but if you can decode without it, they play just fine
and you're not missing anything but the fade out.

Cheers!
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  Is anyone else having problems getting it.  I guess it's
  very busy with all of us so curious about the new album.
  It said there were 421 users.  Wow that seems like a lot!!!!

  wanting 18

  RT


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From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Wired Article
Date: 09 Apr 2002 12:33:10 -0700

At 06:27 AM 4/9/2002 -0700, Bri wrote:
>here is the link to read the artical
>
>http://www.wired.com:80/wired/archive/10.05/

That article was really good and offers great insight.  I plan to go out
and buy the mag today.

Here's a quote from the article about 18 (if you don't have time to read
the whole thing):

Which creates significant anticipation for 18. It will be, for millions of
listeners, Moby's second album, not his twelfth. That worries executives at
the artist's two labels, V2 and Mute. They don't want familiar production
techniques that would make him seem like he was stagnating - or, worse,
rehashing a formula. "It was a serious issue," Moby admits. "We had
arguments. They didn't want me to have any songs with sampled vocals on
them. They were like, 'If you make a Play 2, people are gonna criticize you.'"

There's no getting around it: 18 sounds, almost track for track, like Play.
It even has the sampled gospel vocals - though in place of the earlier
disc's rusticated "Ooh, Lawdys," 18 features more urbane, sexy-sounding
shout-outs to the Almighty. Moby insists the echoes are essentially
coincidence. "I want to make a good record," he says. "And if it means it
has songs similar to things on Play, fine." It is a good record - and if
Play hadn't existed, it would be a great record.

But if 18 is artistically safe, that may be because there's a lot more
riding on it. Thanks to Play's success, Moby is now a far bigger moneymaker
than any other artist on V2, his US label, or on Mute, which handles his
distribution in the rest of the world. Ditto his managers' firm. That
effectively makes him responsible for the dozens of people who work at all
three companies. "I never aspired to be an industry," he says. "Sometimes
I'll become aware of that, the weight of it - and I'm just one guy."


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From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) getiting 18 from FTP
Date: 09 Apr 2002 12:42:41 -0700

At 12:17 PM 4/9/2002 -0700, Matt wrote:

>for some reason, i'm feeling the direct opposite.  "stars" is a very weak
>song, with sub-par lyrics imo.  it's like a really bad 80's song by a
>one-man-band...

I think "Stars" is a very catchy song and grew on me a lot... but I missed
the whole 80s music scene so maybe that's why it sounds 'new' to me.  I
think the way the song builds up to the climax at the end is pretty
nice.  It's nothing earth shattering but much of Moby's stuff isn't.  I
think "South Side" has weaker lyrics and enjoy "Stars" much much more..
(since that's the only song on Play I can compare it to).

I think "Landing" is the best track from the new single and judging from
the number of demos he made for 18 there should be a lot of B-Sides this
time around as well.

Still after hearing the first 5 tracks of 18 I am very excited and
pleased!  Do you not think "The Great Escape" and "Signs Of Love" are
pretty innovative and new for Moby?

Shaun


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From: BRIAN HOVEY <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) any questions?
Date: 09 Apr 2002 12:53:15 -0700 (PDT)

This is the tipicial copout of the music ind. Take
Fugzi for ex. never NEVER sold out and yet known i
dont want to get into a whole arguement about it bur
he has a big enough fan base and has found that play
sold well enough to make a carbon copy of it, I just
dont want to have to turn on the tv and hear his music
on a shitty tv show, on on pop radio, i hate to say it
but useing "he wants his music heard by as many
people" is fodder.

Sorry if i offened.

Bri


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> as possible, and that's typically hard to do on
> one's own...
>
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> To: <[e-mail]>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2002 9:07 AM
> Subject: Re: (mobility) any questions?
>
>
> > I would like to know why he just wont sever his
> ties
> > with record companys and form his own where he can
> > actually control what and how his music gets used.
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From: "Matt Olson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) getiting 18 from FTP
Date: 09 Apr 2002 12:54:48 -0700

I guess I'm just rather accustomed to the usual mix of good dance beats and=
 mellow sentimental tunes.  Every Moby song that I've ever disliked has=
 grown on me, and I'm sure this album will be the same way.

I do, however, agree that "Landing" is great.  I can't stop listening to=
 that song.  It's excellent.

Maybe Moby has just run out of "fresh" musical ideas....?

I'll have to listen to the album at least 10 times more in order to pass=
 *final* judgement.

-Matt


>
>I think "Stars" is a very catchy song and grew on me a lot... but I missed=

>the whole 80s music scene so maybe that's why it sounds 'new' to me.  I
>think the way the song builds up to the climax at the end is pretty
>nice.  It's nothing earth shattering but much of Moby's stuff isn't.  I
>think "South Side" has weaker lyrics and enjoy "Stars" much much more..
>(since that's the only song on Play I can compare it to).
>
>I think "Landing" is the best track from the new single and judging from
>the number of demos he made for 18 there should be a lot of B-Sides this
>time around as well.
>
>Still after hearing the first 5 tracks of 18 I am very excited and
>pleased!  Do you not think "The Great Escape" and "Signs Of Love" are
>pretty innovative and new for Moby?
>
>Shaun



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From: ian crowther <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) 18 = play + everything is wrong
Date: 09 Apr 2002 16:13:10 -0400

ok, so i dl'd 18 last night and i'm listening through it for the
first time right now...and "sunday (the day before my birthday)"
sounds a lot like "sunday was a fine day" which i think was an
unreleased early version of "feeling so real" off of everything is
wrong. just thought i'd mention that. i like the sound of 18 so
far...it does sound a bunch like play and eiw combined, though. not
saying thats necessarily bad. but when i first heard "honey" i
remeber i hated it cause it didn't sound anything like eiw. it took
me a while to accept it on its own. it might be sort of ironic that
the opposite reaction seems common right now on the list.

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From: mark <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) bowie and my take on 18
Date: 09 Apr 2002 17:12:29 -0400 (EDT)

first off:
> The new album from David Bowie will be called "Heathen" and it will
> feature guest spots from Pete Townsend, Dave Grohl, Air and Moby.
so everyone keep an eye/ear out for that.

and i've given "18" a listen or three, and it's fairly good if you don't
listen to it critically. unfortunately, if you listen to it critically it
mostly sounds like a bunch of b-sides or something (ironic, since the
b-side "landing" kinda outshines the stuff on the album for the mostpart.)
in fact, i think some of the stuff that didn't make the cut for play ("my
love", "carry you", "free") outdo a bunch of the stuff on 18.
i gotta say tho, i'm liking some of the mixture on 18. it sounds almost
brit-poppy in a lot of places, pulls some of his material from like 8
years back (like "sunday (the day before my birthday)", which was from a
track that ended up splitting off into "everytime you touch me" and
eventually this).
but anyway, i just suggest maybe listening to 18 in the background a
couple times before you sit down and focus on it, it'll prolly come
accross better that way.
and it is kinda nice to have a couple hours worth of new material and
remixes. (speeking of which, anyone got the down tempo edit of we
are all made of stars?)
cheers,
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From: "Shaun Rader" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) bowie and my take on 18
Date: 09 Apr 2002 16:07:40 -0700

"mark" <[e-mail]> wrote:

> in fact, i think some of the stuff that didn't make the cut for play ("my
> love", "carry you", "free") outdo a bunch of the stuff on 18.

Ok what are these tracks you speak of?  How did you hear them?



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From: elissa brown <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) what's the deal with the synth strings?
Date: 09 Apr 2002 17:04:19 -0700 (PDT)

no.. really. what is the deal? man.

The Great Escape is by and far my favorite track, maybe because it's the only one
that doesnt sound like it could have been on Play.

i sound negative. it's a good record. i was hoping for something a bit more
eclectic. and like someone else mentioned, i miss the guitar.

elissa

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From: mark <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) 18 lyrics posted
Date: 09 Apr 2002 22:00:56 -0400 (EDT)

hey there peoples,
just to let everyone know, i've posted the best proximity i could come up
with for the lyrics for the songs on 18 and the waamos b-sides in the
ever-raw lyrics section of mobymusic.com.
anyone know if the cd's gonna have lyrics in the notes, or more essays, or
what?
cheers,
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From: "Elie Franca" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) any questions?
Date: 10 Apr 2002 00:34:29 -0400

<html><div style='background-color:'><DIV>COME ON BRI!!  (:o)...WE ALL, AT ONE POINT OR ANOTHER, CATCH THE WAVE OF POP MUSIC AND BECOME ACQUAINTED WITHE THE CHARACTERS THAT BECOME POP STARS...</DIV>
<DIV>I LOVE POP STARS..I LOVE NSYNC..I WANT TO MAKE LOVE TO ALL NSYNC MEMBERS..</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>NOW, A SERIOUS QUESTION:</DIV>
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<DIV>WOULD ANYBODY BE ABLE TO POSSIBLY BURN ME A COPY OF 18?</DIV>
<DIV>I JUST CANNOT SEEM TO GET THEM FROM THE FTP SITE..I TRIED IT BEFORE BUT COULD NOT DO IT..</DIV>
<DIV>MAYBE IF SOMEONE CAN GIVE ME DIRECTIONS AS TO EXACTLY HOW I CAN ACCESS THE FTP SITE..</DIV>
<DIV>I AM PRETTY COMPUTER ILLITERATE....</DIV>
<DIV>OK, OFF TO CHECK THE NSYNC OFFICIAL WEBSITE..BYEEE..</DIV>
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From: martinjames <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) 18 pr campaign
Date: 10 Apr 2002 10:07:23 +0100

hey ho mobilites

interesting news reports in industry mags Music Week and Billboard which
claim that the campaign for 18 is planned to work in the same way as Play.
ie they want to introduce the record slowly, let it grow organically etc.
this is called stealth marketing and it can work very well on an unknown or
lesser known artist. it worked on play because animal rights only sold in
the region of 100,000 copies worldwide and no one but the hardened fans were
in the least bit interested in him. when play was first promod i found it
almost impossible to get commissioned to write a feature on him. now he's a
megastar everyone wants an exclusive!!
interesting also is the fact that moby maintains that had no idea of the
amount of licensing of the tracks from play that went on as he was too busy
on the road, he also states that with play he had a policy of doing all
interview requests, whatever the medium, and intends to have the same
approach this time.
i wonder if his record companies have told him that they have increasingly
filtered these requests and that (this literally came to light yesterday)
moby's previous tour manager was instructed by the us management to keep me
as far away from moby as possible while writing the book! also the attempt
at the new stealth campaign has quite literally isolated all of the UK
journalists who have remained in full support of Moby since day one.
In the Billboard article he also drags out that old complaint that only
three UK journalists turned up to interview him on the animal rights press
junkit here. he omits to point out that he (or his management) had employed
one of the worst PR companies around for the campaign. preferring them to
the company who had represented him since 'Go'. as a result none of the moby
fans got the pr on the album... by the time word was out it was too late for
the bigger mags. but everyone did live reviews instead (with Ultraviolence
supporting)
what is emerging is a picture of an artist who increasingly has no idea of
the the mechanics of his own career, which is either a masterstroke of
management, or simple stupidity on moby's part.

now, more than ever, i would like to interview moby.

mute, if you are reading this, let's do a proper feature on him.
:)

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From: "Bart van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) 18 review
Date: 10 Apr 2002 11:23:13 +0200

a breakdown on the tracks and my opinions

e_are_all_made_of_stars-esc.mp3

Well, we already kind of discussed this one. I like it. It's a totally
different Moby sound. I really thought more on the album would be like this.
How wrong could I be...

02-moby-in_this_world-esc.mp3

"Lord you don't believe me" What's this? Play?  Indeed. The beat from
WDMHFSB and those famous Moby chords. Later on in the song it get's a bit
funkier, but the pieces kind of keep on repeating eachother. The song
doesn't go anywhere. Even the break in the middle is a repetition of the
main vocals and the piano tune. This song has great potentials, but a lousy
implementation of them.

03-moby-in_my_heart-esc.mp3

I already heard it in crap quality live at the olympics. It sounded like a
realy powerful prayerful song there like (as earlier mentioned) Hymn. A
shame the good quality version doesn't reveal the powerful beat driven track
I had expected. Moby can't make dance records any more. These beats are only
a bit in the background, no tension building drum rolls, nothing. What
happened to Moby?

04-moby-the_great_escape-esc.mp3

Nice vocals. But couldn't Moby hire some chellists or something? My Sound
Blaster PCI128's midi sounds better than these strings. If you ask me, this
song is begging for an euphoric powerful dance make-over :)

moby-signs_of_love-esc.mp3

Nice chords, but they sound like I've heard them before. Why did Moby put
this filter on his voice? It sounds like those crappy 128kbs mp3s that those
early mp3 encoders made if your source sound came from tape or 12". Wait a
minute, I
have this effect in CoolEdit too :) I like the guitar in the middle, the
song kind of picks up then. It finally gets some body. This one gets better
towards the end.

06-moby-one_of_these_mornings-esc.mp3

Already a candidate for one of my favorite 18 tracks :) Very Play-isch, but
I like it! Simple straight forward song, but I really like it. Can't put my
finger on it what makes this one stand out. Listen for yourself.

07-moby-another_woman-esc.mp3

Catchy bassline and reversed beat. Why did Moby have to use the "natural
blues" bongo's and the little "ooh" sample in this one? surely he must have
more original stuff to sample from around... Otherwise it's a very nice
tune. A bit darker and less melodic than the rest, I like it. Perfect song
for those walks in the cold night. Also a serious candidate for a favorite
track :)

08-moby-fireworks-esc.mp3

Eeek, do you guys here that flute? Sounds like a bad b-side for a random
Play single. Unimmaginative filler.

09-moby-extreme_ways-esc.mp3

I love it, I love it I love it :) I know that breakbeat from somewhere, I
also sampled that one for my remix of Time's Up by The Brotherhood :) The
original is from Naughty By Nature - O.P.P.  I like this nice breeze of
Animal Rights in 18. I can immagine myself screaming along to this song when
I get the album and I can play it on my stereo instead of through my pc
speakers :) Damn, it's going to be difficult to choose a favorite track from
18 :)

10-moby-jam_for_the_ladies-esc.mp3

Nice groovy track. Homeboy Moby is back on tha track, yes yes yo, he's the
best of all! Sounds like those late '80's early '90's electronic hiphop
records in the
mood of Salt & Peppa. I Like this song.

11-moby-sunday_(the_day_before_my_birthday)-esc.mp3

These vocals were originally used for a demo of a song for EIW, that later
evolved in Everytime you touch me. Notice how the piano chords in this song
are a bit too simular to WDMHFSB? :) I don't really mind, it's a nice song
anyhow. I like that
electronic organ later in the song.

12-moby-18-esc.mp3

Ahh, sweet memories. The Moby as we know him from Little Idiot. Nice
instrumental piano tune with great old-style Moby strings.

13-moby-sleep_alone-esc.mp3

Why does this song make me think of "Whispering Wind"? Nice dark tune with
cool spacy echo and backwards effects.

14-moby-at_least_we_tried-esc.mp3

Haha, remember that track Timmy T - One More Try?  This song really reminds
me of it. Even the titles show simularity :)  Great vocals by the way.
Lovely intimate little brokenhearted lovesong.

15-moby-harbour-esc.mp3

The song I was most curious about turns out to be one of the lesser tracks
on the album in my opinion. It has nice Moby chords and Sinead's singing is
also ok I guess, but again, this song doesn't seem to go anywhere and
Sinead's singing seems to go slightly out of tune at some moments.

16-moby-look_back_in-esc.mp3

This could be a standard b-side for any single from Play. A cool thing
though, after hearing the previous song with Sinead O'connor the first
string chord you hear are the same as "Nothing Compares" :) Don't worry, the
song is nothing like it, just thought this was kind of funny. Nice
instrumental track.

17-moby-the_rafters-esc.mp3

Yo Fatboy Slim is in the house! Hehe, not really, it's just Moby wanting to
sound like him :) Really uptempo track, a bit in the style of James Bond
Theme. I wouldn't have minded if Moby had chosen a bit more firm pounding
beat for this one.

18-moby-im_not_worried_at_all-esc.mp3

Aren't these the same acappella's as used for WDMHFSB? Very likely. I know
Moby is into recycling products, but this goes a bit too far in my opinion.
This song has the air of those old ballads like by the Righteous Brothers
(or however you spell it, English is not my native language :)

My final judgement about 18 is that (like Mark said) you got to listen to it
a few times in the background and than take a good listen. I will not lie to
you guys and say I think that this is the best Moby album yet. It's along
with Play a Moby album that has its good moments, but can't compete with EIW
or AR in my opinion. And if I had to choose a favourite track now, it would
be "Extreme Ways". And I don't really think my choice will change in the
near future.

Bart




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From: "Bart van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) ftp mirror please!
Date: 10 Apr 2002 12:08:24 +0200

Can't somebody put up an ftp mirror for the 18 tracks? I'm generating way
too much traffic. My isp is not going to be pleased by this and it can
result in me having to close the ftp. So, if you can help me out here,
please contact me privately.

Oh and Mute and V2, please don't be mad at us, we just couldn't contain our
curiosity anymore, and we'll all be good boys and girls and buy the album
when it comes out. :)

Bart



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From: martinjames <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) 18 sounds like...
Date: 10 Apr 2002 13:21:40 +0100

this mortal coil is one of moby's favourites... the project was coordinated
by 4ad boss ivo watts russell with wolfgang press keybaords guy - whose name
escapes me - putting the music together. the first album 'it'll end in
tears' is a work of genius, the following two not so good. however if anyone
wants to hear some of the post-punk/ early indie influences on moby's music
the this is a great place to start. melodic, simple, ambient passages etc.
... and 'song to siren' is one of the most sublime records of all time.

i don't think 18 comes close to this mortal coil though :(

martin


on 9/4/02 12:09, Ulrik at [e-mail] wrote:

> So far i've only heard to tracks, "at least we tried" and "the great
> escape". But both these reminds me VERY much of the band "this mortal
> coil", a project runned/produced by the labelbosses from 4ad (an UK indie
> label) and performed by different constellations between the original 4ad
> groups (pixies, cocteau twins, dead can dance etc).
>
> BTW: Sounding like "this mortal coil" is not a bad thing to
> do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Ulrik
>
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From: martinjames <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) quote
Date: 10 Apr 2002 13:21:42 +0100

bart, it's on the back jacket of my book... taken from an interview for the
everything is wrong epk film

i'll dig it out later, just moved house so everything is in boxes and
manuscript isn't on my hard drive anymore

laters

martin


on 9/4/02 18:52, Bart van Eijck at [e-mail] wrote:

> Could anybody give me the exact quote in which Moby says something about we
> have been listening to techno all our lives becuase something with the
> heartbeat of your mom befre you are bon and the screaming woman when you
> come out? You know which quote I mean :)  I want to use it in a parer I'm
> going to write on electronic music for school.
>
> thanks!
>
> Bart
>
>
>
>
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From: "Bart van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) quote
Date: 10 Apr 2002 14:49:22 +0200

>bart, it's on the back jacket of my book... taken from an interview for the
>everything is wrong epk film
>
>i'll dig it out later, just moved house so everything is in boxes and
>manuscript isn't on my hard drive anymore

Silly me! I just found it before you sent this e-mail. I knew it had to be
somewhere in the book, so I searched it from beginning to end. I didn't find
it and so I put the book back, backside up, and there it was :) Thanks
anyway!

Bart



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Subject: Re: (mobility) a bit of an opinion on the new album
Date: 10 Apr 2002 15:22:18 +0200

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hi!
I think your not alone in your opinion about mr. Moby .. see below

write later... now busy..
I need BREASTS, 2 big breasts to hold...

see ye
kee

"Even when the sun shines it is grey in your country"
Frank Zappa about Dutch weather
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  i'm almost wondering why we have to hear this all over again.  i still =
love play, and have ever since it came out.  but 18 is boring the hell =
out of me.  "in my heart" is the strongest tune, imho, but it gives me =
the feeling of deja-vu...  what happened to the innovative muscian known =
as moby?  popularity perhaps.

  -matt


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think it was something that needed to be pursued again on a new album =
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Hey everyone, haven't posted in a long time, but I just got 18, and I was
wondering if anyone has the cover art to the CD? Also, if there are any
people that use mIRC in here, that's where I found my copy.  It's in
#192+mp3albums.  This guy Valek has it, transfers really fast too.  I haven't
really gotten a chance to give it a very thorough listening to, but I like it
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From: Christine <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) quote
Date: 10 Apr 2002 09:41:23 -0400

"When you're born the first sound you hear is a screaming woman, unless
your mother was anaesthetised. So your most primal sounds are, first of
all the heartbeat, which is like the kick drum, and then a screaming
woman. So we've all been listening to techno ever since we were born."

:) there ya go!
-christine

On Wed, 10 Apr 2002, martinjames wrote:

> bart, it's on the back jacket of my book... taken from an interview for the
> everything is wrong epk film
>
> i'll dig it out later, just moved house so everything is in boxes and
> manuscript isn't on my hard drive anymore
>
> laters
>
> martin
>
>
> on 9/4/02 18:52, Bart van Eijck at [e-mail] wrote:
>
> > Could anybody give me the exact quote in which Moby says something about we
> > have been listening to techno all our lives becuase something with the
> > heartbeat of your mom befre you are bon and the screaming woman when you
> > come out? You know which quote I mean :)  I want to use it in a parer I'm
> > going to write on electronic music for school.
> >
> > thanks!
> >
> > Bart
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Alright, overall, the CD is okay.  Many songs do seem to follow the Play
formula, so those people that came on during the Play days will probably seem
pretty happy.  For those of us who have been here since God knows when, this
is definately not one of Moby's best efforts.  I'm not really sure what I was
expecting his next album to sound like, but, atleast for now, this was not
it.  I don't want to sound too negative though, and the CD really isn't bad.
With the exception of a couple of songs, this would be a good CD to put in
when you and a significant other are getting it on.  In other words, 18 makes
for good background music.  Now, before I go on any further, I must say that
I remember how most of us on the list didn't take too kindly to Play when it
was first released either, but after a couple of listens, opinions changed.
This may be the case with 18.  Who knows.
Andy

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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Alright, overall, the CD is okay.  Many songs do seem to follow the Play formula, so those people that came on during the Play days will probably seem pretty happy.  For those of us who have been here since God knows when, this is definately not one of Moby's best efforts.  I'm not really sure what I was expecting his next album to sound like, but, atleast for now, this was not it.  I don't want to sound too negative though, and the CD really isn't bad.  With the exception of a couple of songs, this would be a good CD to put in when you and a significant other are getting it on.  In other words, 18 makes for good background music.  Now, before I go on any further, I must say that I remember how most of us on the list didn't take too kindly to Play when it was first released either, but after a couple of listens, opinions changed.  This may be the case with 18.  Who knows.  <BR>
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From: mark <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) 18 pr campaign
Date: 10 Apr 2002 10:33:26 -0400 (EDT)

> he also states that with play he had a policy of doing all
> interview requests, whatever the medium, and intends to have the same
> approach this time.

yeah, funny that his management refused most interview requests on his
behalf, including ones from me.
is he really so daft as to not know this is going on?
what a damn shame.
cheers,
    -mark

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From: "Troy N" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Speaking of Strings ...
Date: 10 Apr 2002 09:52:01 -0500

Did anyone else notice this tribute album on Amazon?

String Quartet Tribute to Moby

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000658IU/qid=1018450190/sr=1-2/ref=
sr_1_2/002-5874775-8638448


No tracklisting, though.   Releases April 30.
  hmpf.



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From: martinjames <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) 18 first reaction
Date: 10 Apr 2002 16:48:36 +0100

oh dear... it is an album of old ideas recycled. it just doesn't grab me at
all. i'll listen to it, maybe in the background, and enjoy it on a
superficial level, but its not a record that i think i will engage with in
any more profound ways. moby by numbers. in fact, moby drawn from the
numbers of outtakes from previous albums i suspect. in the same way that
fatboy slim's last album actually dates back six years or more because he
was too busy to really record any new material. he just worked on the
archives.

i know moby is trying to reach as many people as possible now but i really
think he could stretch his formula further. after play i thought he would
have had the world at his feet in terms of creativity. i was expecting more,
not a version. i'm also surprised at how unemotive the album is. the same
chord changes, factory preset strings, minor keys and so on don't
immediately give a record soul. it's much deeper than that. i think soul was
the last thing that influenced this recording ... thank god sophie ellis
baxter is nowhere to be heard though.

i expect 18 might grow on me, unlike the single which has had the opposite
effect, i've gone from love to hate in a couple of weeks.

indecently, i've been a bowie fan since i was 10. moby offers a similar
experience from the fan perspective. he is inconsistent, but always
interesting and the reason for going back for more is the hope that the new
record will be as good as the great ones. for me bowie's lowest point was
'tonight' which followed the worldwide smash 'lets dance'. on 'tonight'
bowie could be heard forsaking creative endeavour for commercial gain. it
was a dull album, worthy only for the man's voice. '18' i fear may prove to
be moby's 'tonight'.

fitting then that he should be collaborating with bowie on the new db album!
they can compare space suits :)

finally... which company will be the first to license a track from 18 do you
think?
my guess is microsoft
followed quickly by president bush plc who will use it to sooth the effect
of his worrying worldview. imagine 'sleep alone' played over images of
saddam as bush and his glove puppet (blair) announce the beginning of the
nuke em rollercoaster.
pay off line will come as the final chords fade: "Nominate a terrorist now
and remember - the US brought you these weapons so terrorists could die slow
and bloody deaths."

moby wouldn't know about it ofcourse because he will have been too busy on
the road promoting the new album!

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From: "Paradise Cowgirl" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) ftp mirror please!
Date: 10 Apr 2002 09:36:07 -0700


I can't mirror but I will point out once again that
all 18 tracks are available on Usenet in the newgroup
alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.2000s -- it took me less than
20 minutes to get them.

Cheers!

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+> From: [e-mail]
+> [mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of Bart van Eijck
+> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 3:08 AM
+> To: [e-mail]
+> Subject: (mobility) ftp mirror please!
+>
+>
+> Can't somebody put up an ftp mirror for the 18 tracks? I'm
+> generating way
+> too much traffic. My isp is not going to be pleased by this
+> and it can
+> result in me having to close the ftp. So, if you can help me
+> out here,
+> please contact me privately.
+>
+> Oh and Mute and V2, please don't be mad at us, we just
+> couldn't contain our
+> curiosity anymore, and we'll all be good boys and girls and
+> buy the album
+> when it comes out. :)
+>
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From: elissa brown <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) 18 first reaction
Date: 10 Apr 2002 09:47:47 -0700 (PDT)

mart wrote:

> finally... which company will be the first to license a track from 18 do you
> think?
> my guess is microsoft

last night, i dreamt that "extreme ways" was in the background of a Shell Oil
commercial.

elissa

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Subject: Re: (mobility) ftp mirror please!
Date: 10 Apr 2002 11:40:39 -0700 (PDT)


--- Bart van Eijck <[e-mail]> wrote:

>
> Oh and Mute and V2, please don't be mad at us, we
> just couldn't contain our
> curiosity anymore, and we'll all be good boys and
> girls and buy the album
> when it comes out. :)
>
> Bart


yeah right. hehe.


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Subject: Re: (mobility) 18 first reaction
Date: 10 Apr 2002 12:16:11 -0700


>
>last night, i dreamt that "extreme ways" was in the background of a Shell
>Oil
>commercial.
>
>elissa

hahahaha!


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From: "Matt Olson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Sunday - (The Day Before My Birthday)
Date: 10 Apr 2002 12:26:28 -0700

Anyone know who does the vox in this song?  It reminds me of Beth from=
 Portishead....

or maybe I just missed a previous post about it :P

Thanks,


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From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Sunday - (The Day Before My Birthday)
Date: 10 Apr 2002 12:52:37 -0700

At 12:26 PM 4/10/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Anyone know who does the vox in this song?  It reminds me of Beth from
>Portishead....
>
>or maybe I just missed a previous post about it :P

I thought this was a sampled gospel song or something.  Was it recorded
just for the song?


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From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Area: Two
Date: 10 Apr 2002 12:53:14 -0700

Don't know if this was mentioned yet but it is from the dialy Rolling Stone
e-mail:

MOBY LINES UP BOWIE, BUSTA FOR AREA: TWO


DAVID BOWIE and BUSTA RHYMES will join MOBY as performers for his Area: Two
tour. The traveling festival is due to launch its sophomore run in the late
summer or early fall. Last year's inaugural Area: One featured NEW ORDER,
NELLY FURTADO, OUTKAST and PAUL OAKENFOLD. "There is an overabundance of
testosterone-driven rock at [other] festivals," Moby told Rolling Stone,
"and I wanted to do something that's interesting and aesthetically
challenging, in addition to being eclectic."


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Subject: Re: (mobility) Sunday - (The Day Before My Birthday)
Date: 10 Apr 2002 13:10:44 -0700


>
>I thought this was a sampled gospel song or something.  Was it recorded
>just for the song?

well... it doesn't sound very gospel to me.... at least not in a=
 conventional sense...


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From: Christine <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) moby in Request magazine
Date: 10 Apr 2002 16:33:46 -0400

Hey guys... so my boss knows my love for our dear baldy friend and gave me
the magazine. It's not a really long article but it has some interesting
things in it i'll share with you.. if i get time tonight I'll just scan it
in again and put it online!

It first has a page on Moby and the new album:
"The new record builds on Play with more eclecticism and emotional depth,
sliding between new wave, Sugar Hill hip-hop, 70's soul, and indie rock,
with acmeos from Angie Stone, Sinead O'Connor, and MC Lyte."

The other two pages are from an interview:
Q:So what's the utility of 18?
A: I guess to serve as a sort of emotional soundtrack to people's lives. I
envision someone listening to it on their own -- making dinner, or getting
ready to go on vacation.  ...The ideais: a good record is a good
companion.

There's some pictures as well with moby in space attire.. but not his
white space suit. (not as cute as his cover for the new album though)


That's all for now...

christine


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From: Brad Caviness <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) 18 Review in AP
Date: 10 Apr 2002 13:34:21 -0700 (PDT)

Alternative Press (5/02, p.77) - 8 out 10 - "...18 makes
PLAY sound like a what-if experiment in techno blues...
Everything is bluesier, achier and more awestruck.... Moby's
contradictions give 18 its depth and forgive the
extrapolation of PLAY's blueprint..."

=====
Bradley S. Caviness, Bigwig
Bigwig Enterprises

http://www.bigwigenterprises.com

"Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur."
(Whatever is said in Latin sounds profound.)

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From: Christopher Michael Bourke <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) FTP Mirror for 18, my opinions...
Date: 10 Apr 2002 15:53:20 -0500

Hey everyone, I've set up a temporary mirror for the 18 album.  Its
annonymous login (please don't tell others beyond this list about it, I
don't want an entire fucking irc channel trying to login).  Here's the
address:

ftp://129.93.210.61

There are no connection or d/l restrictions, so have fun and buy the fucking
album when it comes out or I will send my minions to tear out your heart and
shove it where the sun don't shine.

Anyway, here's my take:

1, I caught the "sunday was a fine day" updated version as well, it IS the
same.  As for the rest of the album, I agree with the somewhat luke warm
reception of the rest of the list: it seems like we've heard most of this
stuff before.  But why is that a bad thing?  We loved it before, we should
at least appreciate it again, right?  Just because your expectations of a
revolutionary album have not been realized doesn't mean its a BAD album,
and its not.  I can't say that I love it (at least right away) with to the
same degree as his other stuff, but its still a solid album.  I'm looking
forward to the plethera of remixes, if the Tiesto Vocal Remix of WAAMOS is
any indication of what's to come.

Nevertheless I don't see this album becoming anywhere near as big as Play
did, it just doesn't seem (with a few exceptions, especially Jam for the
Ladies, I wonder why they didn't put this out as the first single, it seems
like the most radio/public friendly track) like an album that would have a
lot of appeal beyond us fans, especially since its reminiscent of play
itself--the american public in general will accept something new, but not
twice.

Anyway, enjoy d/ling.


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From: maMLUKa <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) moby video on mtv europe
Date: 11 Apr 2002 00:44:09 +0200

they just show it all day long
it's so cool i am so happy
is that like this in the usa too?


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From: Eric <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Sunday - (The Day Before My Birthday)
Date: 10 Apr 2002 15:02:06 -0700 (PDT)


   Mannnnnn everyone on this list (except for SOME of
you) have been really ripping into Moby on his new CD.
 I don't know why, but I guess I like most of the
songs on it and hope that he keeps making new and
better music rather than listen to all of you
NAYSAYERS out there.  <sticks out his tongue>

EricTheRed

> >
> >I thought this was a sampled gospel song or
> something.  Was it recorded
> >just for the song?
>
> well... it doesn't sound very gospel to me.... at
> least not in a conventional sense...
>
>
> -Matt


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Subject: Re: (mobility) moby video on mtv europe
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From: "Shaun Rader" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) 18 review
Date: 10 Apr 2002 15:53:21 -0700

Bart van Eijck wrote:

> 03-moby-in_my_heart-esc.mp3
>
> I already heard it in crap quality live at the olympics. It sounded like a
> realy powerful prayerful song there like (as earlier mentioned) Hymn. A
> shame the good quality version doesn't reveal the powerful beat driven
track

I think the Olympic version is a sped up version of the album track.  The
vocals from the Olympics sounded a lot higher in pitch.. or maybe it was the
live singer.  When I heard it on the Olympics I thought the male vocals were
Moby's (how was I to know, they never showed him!).  I think it still sounds
like Moby but the 'sample' noises are there.

I really like this song.  Something about the way the string chord
changes/progressions are delayed a split second or so (compared to when you
are expecting to hear them).



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Subject: Re: (mobility) any questions?
Date: 10 Apr 2002 16:29:11 -0700 (PDT)


Elie, you're gay??

EricTheRed

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<DIV>NOW, A SERIOUS QUESTION:</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>WOULD ANYBODY BE ABLE TO POSSIBLY BURN ME A COPY
OF 18?</DIV>
<DIV>I JUST CANNOT SEEM TO GET THEM FROM THE FTP
SITE..I TRIED IT BEFORE BUT COULD NOT DO IT..</DIV>
<DIV>MAYBE IF SOMEONE CAN GIVE ME DIRECTIONS AS TO
EXACTLY HOW I CAN ACCESS THE FTP SITE..</DIV>
<DIV>I AM PRETTY COMPUTER ILLITERATE....</DIV>
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Subject: Re: (mobility) any questions?
Date: 10 Apr 2002 19:05:27 -0500 (CDT)


> <DIV>I JUST CANNOT SEEM TO GET THEM FROM THE FTP
> SITE..I TRIED IT BEFORE BUT COULD NOT DO IT..</DIV>
> <DIV>MAYBE IF SOMEONE CAN GIVE ME DIRECTIONS AS TO
> EXACTLY HOW I CAN ACCESS THE FTP SITE..</DIV>
> <DIV>I AM PRETTY COMPUTER ILLITERATE....</DIV>

Okay, first, shut off your html in your email program.  (select plain
text).

Second, get an FTP program.  If you dont' know what that is you should
probably learn, but if you don't, then open up netscape or internet
explorer and type as the address exactly as shown:


ftp://129.93.210.61

disco.  If it is not too busy or you don't have a poor connection a file
named '18' should show up.  double click it.  There are all the files.
Highlight the file you want to download, then right click on it and select
"copy to folder" then select whatever directory you want it downloaded in.

after a few minutes (or hours), the download is complete.

Chris.

(for bart's ftp follow the same instructions but type in his address and
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From: martinjames <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) 18 first reaction
Date: 11 Apr 2002 01:13:43 +0100


> last night, i dreamt that "extreme ways" was in the background of a Shell Oil
> commercial.
>
> elissa
>
thanks mate, you made me laugh like an idiot. i was on a train at the time.
shell oil...


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From: "Paradise Cowgirl" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) moby video on mtv europe
Date: 10 Apr 2002 17:39:41 -0700


I don't know about MTV but it "debuted" on VH1 top 20 this week at #20...

Cheers!

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+> From: [e-mail]
+> [mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of maMLUKa
+> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 3:44 PM
+> To: [e-mail]
+> Subject: (mobility) moby video on mtv europe
+>
+>
+> they just show it all day long
+> it's so cool i am so happy
+> is that like this in the usa too?
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Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V4 #697
Date: 10 Apr 2002 21:50:34 -0700



mobility-digest wrote:

>Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 09:52:01 -0500
>From: "Troy N" <[e-mail]>
>Subject: (mobility) Speaking of Strings ...
>
>Did anyone else notice this tribute album on Amazon?
>
>String Quartet Tribute to Moby
>
>http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000658IU/qid=1018450190/sr=1-2/ref=
>sr_1_2/002-5874775-8638448
>
>
>No tracklisting, though.   Releases April 30.
>  hmpf.
>
>
>
>Troy
>
Actually, I went to the website for the record company that is to put
that out, http://www.vitaminrecords.com    and they have 3 audio samples
of the CD.  It sounds like it might be pretty good, so I'll probably
wind up getting it.

BTW, I'm new to the list, so I just wanted to say hello to everyone.
 I've been collecting Moby stuff for a little while now and I thought
I'd join this group.  :-)

Tony


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From: blue armadillo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V4 #697
Date: 10 Apr 2002 22:23:13 -0700 (PDT)

hello tony. welcome to the list. btw, are you the
frosted flake from the moby.com boards?

--- Anthony Stokes <[e-mail]>
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>
>
> mobility-digest wrote:
>
> >Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 09:52:01 -0500
> >From: "Troy N" <[e-mail]>
> >Subject: (mobility) Speaking of Strings ...
> >
> >Did anyone else notice this tribute album on
> Amazon?
> >
> >String Quartet Tribute to Moby
> >
>
>http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000658IU/qid=1018450190/sr=1-2/ref=
> >sr_1_2/002-5874775-8638448
> >
> >
> >No tracklisting, though.   Releases April 30.
> >  hmpf.
> >
> >
> >
> >Troy
> >
> Actually, I went to the website for the record
> company that is to put
> that out, http://www.vitaminrecords.com    and they
> have 3 audio samples
> of the CD.  It sounds like it might be pretty good,
> so I'll probably
> wind up getting it.
>
> BTW, I'm new to the list, so I just wanted to say
> hello to everyone.
>  I've been collecting Moby stuff for a little while
> now and I thought
> I'd join this group.  :-)
>
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From: ian crowther <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) 18 is good
Date: 11 Apr 2002 01:41:02 -0400

yeah, just wanna toss another two to four cents in. i've been
listening to it more, and each time i hear it, i do like it more. its
a lot more personal, a lot less allovertheplace, and its got a
simple, synthy sound that makes me think of moby just sitting in his
loft or his warehouse or wherver it is that he lives and just picking
stuff out on a keyboard. some of the music is sort of similar to
older stuff, but some of it, usually under his vocal tracks, is
really quite different. its a quieter, simpler, more downtempo effort
- which moby does well. he's been promising us "more soulful" for
months now, and i think what moby continues to do right (even if its
in less variable ways) is make electronic, machine-produced music
that has a soul and is meaningful - even if his distribution or his
commerciality is not. everything is wrong is still one of my favorite
albums of all time - its the album that proved to me that electronic
music could still be music instead of effetcs and beats. thats
something moby has over the chem. bros. or fatboy or the other
superstar dj's out there.

as to whether 18 will hit as big as play did - i dunno. i remember
when play came out and he was so in need of promotion that he was
doing free concerts. i caught him in boston for free just as
'bodyrock' was getting some airplay. before that, i never thought
anyone would like him other than me. there were upwards of 14,000
people there that night. it might hit. "porcelain" was everywhere,
remember? that single went through the roof - and i think that as a
whole, 18 sounds like porcelain more than any other song on play, and
more like first cool hive than any other song on everything is wrong.
and thats great. its a really good album. he has a consistent sound
that's still branching out. he's not breaking his career this time
around with an animal rights (also a good album) that has no
commercial appeal - hes doing what a whole lot of other musicians do,
in fact. if his next album is a subtle development from 18, i think
we will still have every reason to be happy.

ian
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From: "Shaun Rader" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) Sunday - (The Day Before My Birthday)
Date: 10 Apr 2002 23:06:54 -0700

Matt Olson wrote:

> well... it doesn't sound very gospel to me.... at least not
> in a conventional sense...

I got to listen to Sunday again and the vocal sure sounds like a sample from
another record.. it has that same residual background noise/music that a lot
of the other samples have.  Either that or he recorded it with lower-fi
equipment (which isn't impossible given some demo songs were on Play).

Oh yeah the Wired article mentions that Moby had people buying him records
of all kinds not just gospel :)

I still have only listened through track 11.  I think the slow approach to
this cd might have made me appreciate it more.  I find that if I'm
overwhelmed with new music it all becomes a blur.  I would have listened to
it all if I had all the tracks though (I was limited by my crap internet
connection).

I like it a lot so far!!  Signs Of Love is my fav and Jam For The Ladies is
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From: "Shaun Rader" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) We Are All Made Of Stars
Date: 10 Apr 2002 23:32:09 -0700

Did everyone notice that the version of "Stars" on the album is an extended
and slightly different mix of the single?

Ok ok I guess it's obvious but I didn't download it right away since I had
heard it already...


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From: Arcya Self <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) any questions?
Date: 11 Apr 2002 00:32:02 -0700 (PDT)

--- Christopher Michael Bourke wrote:
> Okay, first, shut off your...
> Second, get an FTP program....  .
> ftp://129.93.210.61

I was also having a hard time with Bart's, so thank
you!  Now I can feel cool like the rest of you lucky
people & know what the hell you're talking about in
your reviews of each song!  I hope I like most of
it...

love&big huge thanks,
- m gabriele

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From: "Troy N" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V4 #697
Date: 11 Apr 2002 08:47:54 -0500

I couldn't find a listing for the moby strings tribute album on this site.
Where do you click?

 Thanks,




> Actually, I went to the website for the record company that is to put
> that out, http://www.vitaminrecords.com    and they have 3 audio samples
> of the CD.  It sounds like it might be pretty good, so I'll probably
> wind up getting it.


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) All The Remixes
Date: 11 Apr 2002 8:58:50 -0700

Can some list out all the remixes of Stars and where they are (or aren't!)=2E

Thx,

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From: "Bart van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) All The Remixes
Date: 11 Apr 2002 19:12:31 +0200

>Can some list out all the remixes of Stars and where they are (or aren't!).

Moby - We Are All Made Of Stars (Bob Sinclar Kutz Dub)
Moby - We Are All Made Of Stars (Bob Sinclar Main Vocal Mix)
Moby - We Are All Made Of Stars (Dj Tiesto Non Vocal Remix)
Moby - We Are All Made Of Stars (Dj Tiesto Vocal Remix)
Moby - We Are All Made Of Stars (Timo Mass Instrumental Remix)
Moby - We Are All Made Of Stars (Timo Mass Vocal Remix)
Moby - We Are All Made Of Stars (Radio Edit)
Moby - We Are All Made Of Stars (Album Version)
Moby - We Are All Made Of Stars (Downtempo)

Most of them are on my ftp, or chris's, I haven't checked it yet.

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From: "Bart van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) simularities
Date: 11 Apr 2002 19:30:36 +0200

Lots of striking simularities on the album, listen and judge for yourself.

WAAMOS -> ....
In This World -> WDMHFSB
In My Heart -> Hymn
The Great Escape -> Moby & Heather Nova - Straight to hell
Signs of Love -> Novio (very Novio :)
One Of These Mornings -> Angels Sing
Another Woman -> Has sample from beat of Natural Blues
Fireworks -> .... (guitar flute & strings?)
Extreme Ways -> .....
Jam For The Ladies -> .....
Sunday (The day...) -> WDMHFSB and Sunday Was A Fine Day
18 -> J Breas
Sleep Alone -> Whispring Wind (and not only because of the vocoded voice)
At Least We Tried -> Timmy T - One More Try
Harbour -> .....
Look Back In -> Bruce Springsteen - Streets of Philadelphia
The Rafters - Fatboy Slim - Praise You
I'm Not Worried At All - anything by The Righteous Brothers

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From: Arcya Self <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) similarities
Date: 11 Apr 2002 11:20:48 -0700 (PDT)

Hello everybody,

Listening to "18" for a 3rd and slower time.  It's
exciting to be there as an artist continues and
changes, even if it's not that drastic of a change or
up to our high expectations :)  I am still enjoying it
a great deal & many of them are already stuck in my
head...  I agreed with Bart a lot:

> WAAMOS -> ....
I'm just happy this has some bold guitar even if it's
simple.

> In This World -> WDMHFSB
> In My Heart -> Hymn
Bart is right on.

> Another Woman -> Has sample from beat of Natural
> Blues
Actually the beginning is VERY Doors-y to me.  I get a
strong similarity to "Riders on the Storm"...haha...

> Sunday (The day) -> WDMHFSB and Sunday Was A Fine
Day
Exactly.

> At Least We Tried -> Timmy T - One More Try
Unfortunately I must agree...blah!..

> Look Back In -> Bruce Springsteen - Streets of
> Philadelphia
> I'm Not Worried At All - anything by The Righteous
> Brothers
Hahahahaha... :)

> The Rafters - Fatboy Slim - Praise You
I can see that, though I think this one is more of a
mutated love child of Carnie and Revival music.

Well I don't want to over-listen to it this early on.
Thanks again to you ftp criminals :)

love&on & on, etc, etc yeaow!
- m gabriele

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From: "Matt Olson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) We Are All Made Of Stars
Date: 11 Apr 2002 12:18:49 -0700

I noticed, and I think it's very nice :)

-Matt

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>Did everyone notice that the version of "Stars" on the album is an
>extended
>and slightly different mix of the single?
>
>Ok ok I guess it's obvious but I didn't download it right away since I had
>heard it already...



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From: "Bart van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) simularities
Date: 11 Apr 2002 22:30:51 +0200

>Listening to "18" for a 3rd and slower time.  It's
>exciting to be there as an artist continues and
>changes, even if it's not that drastic of a change or
>up to our high expectations :)  I am still enjoying it
>a great deal & many of them are already stuck in my
>head...  I agreed with Bart a lot:

Indeed, to set the record straight, I'm not saying 18 is a bad album, it
just needs a few listens :)

>> Another Woman -> Has sample from beat of Natural
>> Blues
>Actually the beginning is VERY Doors-y to me.  I get a
>strong similarity to "Riders on the Storm"...haha...

Indeed! Listened to it again and that bassline is just like Riders on the
storm :)

>> At Least We Tried -> Timmy T - One More Try
>Unfortunately I must agree...blah!..

There's no denying it :)  *evil grin*

>> Look Back In -> Bruce Springsteen - Streets of
>> Philadelphia
>> I'm Not Worried At All - anything by The Righteous
>> Brothers
>Hahahahaha... :)

That's not funny, they really do sound that way :)

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From: Topher Yorks <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) String Q Tribute album
Date: 11 Apr 2002 16:34:10 -0500

What's up?  This is my first post to the list.  I'm all nervous.  Not
really, just wish to show my non-existent flair for the dramatic.

I recieved the "String Quartet Tribute to Moby" CD in the mail yesterday.
I ordered it off the website when someone posted a link a few weeks ago.
Here's the track listing:

1.  God Moving Over the Face of the Waters (5:44)
2.  Porcelain (3:59)
3.  Why Does My Heart Feel So Bad? (5:21)
4.  Everything Is Wrong (3:00)
5.  Hymn (4:31)
6.  Novia (2:36)
7.  Everloving (3:38)
8.  Guitar, Flute & String (2:12)
9.  Run On (3:34)
10. Holiday Rush (6:10)  -original track inspired by the music of Moby)

Players:
Vln:  Janna Jacoby, Pam Jacobson
Vla:  Tom Tally, Pam Jacobson
Vlc:  Steve Velez
Vb:  Frederick Charlton

My opinion of this disk is that it is very interesting.  I've checked out
other tribute albums but have always been dissappionted.  There's usually
only one track (typically track one) that is worth repeating.  The last
track is usually then a piece of trash.

I don't think this is the case with "the String Quartet Tribute to Moby."
The interpretations are very tasteful.  I'm glad to see that the producer
and engineers avoided using extraneous effects and synth/voice overdubs,
opting to allow the acoustic instruments render the material (though I
think they stray from this a bit with the original track)

GMOTFOTW is very nice.  Porcelain is cool too (they use the low strings to
mimic the voice sample... which made me laugh).  Other highlights include
their version of Hymn and GF&S.  Run On is jaunty.  The original track is
complex and is a throw back to some of his earlier material.  I've always
wondered what techno/house rhythms would sound like pumping from a string
quartet.  Now I know.

All I can say is that it is interesting and worth a listen.  I've not heard
"re-play, a tribute to moby."  Can anyone speak on this album?

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From: _bjorkdoll <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) spend a day with moby.. thee pictures.
Date: 11 Apr 2002 13:45:10 -0700 (PDT)

i had entirely too much fun.  whoever is responsible for all these radio
contests is my new god.  *grin*

here's the pictures: http://shhh.sugarcube.net/moby_me

enjoy.  i did.  :)

: sarah :
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From: "Troy N" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) String Q Tribute album
Date: 11 Apr 2002 15:43:34 -0500

Has anyone been able to find audio samples of this string quartet tribute cd
on the web?  (I couldn't find the link on the vitamin site, either).
Amazon says it's supposed to be released April 30th -- congrats on getting
it early, Topher.  Can you upload a track or 2 to the FTP?   :o)
 Also, you can hear snippets of Re:play Tribute to moby on the cdnow site:

http://cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/SID=1467420245/pagename=/RP/CDN/FIND/album.
html/ArtistID=VA-TRIBUTE+MOBY/ITEMID=1508784

Nothing blew me away on this one, but it might be fun to hear the entire
album before I pass judgment.


Thanks,

Troy



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> What's up?  This is my first post to the list.  I'm all nervous.  Not
> really, just wish to show my non-existent flair for the dramatic.
>
> I recieved the "String Quartet Tribute to Moby" CD in the mail yesterday.
> I ordered it off the website when someone posted a link a few weeks ago.


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From: "Matt Olson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) spend a day with moby.. thee pictures.
Date: 11 Apr 2002 14:31:48 -0700

don't forget this one!

http://1077theend.com/andy/archives/041102_moby/studiopics01.htm

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On 4/11/2002 at 1:45 PM _bjorkdoll wrote:

>i had entirely too much fun.  whoever is responsible for all these radio
>contests is my new god.  *grin*
>
>here's the pictures: http://shhh.sugarcube.net/moby_me
>
>enjoy.  i did.  :)
>
>: sarah :
>: i like this resonance :
>: http://myheadphones.org :
>: it elevates me :
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From: _bjorkdoll <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) spend a day with moby.. thee pictures.
Date: 11 Apr 2002 14:44:11 -0700 (PDT)

*hehe*  i _just_ got through saving those ones to my harddrive.  :D

: sarah :
: i like this resonance :
: http://myheadphones.org :
: it elevates me :

On Thu, 11 Apr 2002, Matt Olson wrote:

> don't forget this one!
>
> http://1077theend.com/andy/archives/041102_moby/studiopics01.htm
>
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> On 4/11/2002 at 1:45 PM _bjorkdoll wrote:
>
> >i had entirely too much fun.  whoever is responsible for all these radio
> >contests is my new god.  *grin*
> >
> >here's the pictures: http://shhh.sugarcube.net/moby_me
> >
> >enjoy.  i did.  :)


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Ron Jeremy
Date: 11 Apr 2002 18:13:05 EDT

Ron Jeremy was on the Bob & Tom radio show this morning, he said working with
Moby on the "Stars" video was quite fun.

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From: dj pagan <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) digest instructions - off list please
Date: 11 Apr 2002 15:22:51 -0700 (PDT)

hey there!

can someone please send me a copy of the welcome
letter.  it seems my folders were wiped out,
which is odd.  i want to switch to digest version
as well.

off list, please!
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From: Anthony Stokes <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V4 #698
Date: 11 Apr 2002 16:46:23 -0700



mobility-digest wrote:

>
>Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 22:23:13 -0700 (PDT)
>From: blue armadillo <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V4 #697
>
>hello tony. welcome to the list. btw, are you the
>frosted flake from the moby.com boards?
>.
>
That is me, the ubiquitous FrostedFlake20.  I'm pretty much
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Subject: (mobility) Re: 18 Decide For Yourself
Date: 11 Apr 2002 20:04:43 EDT


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Hey Everyone,
       I'm listening to 18 (The Album as we speak)  And I think that the
things that everyone was saying all have value.  I personally like this.
Lately I've been goin through some rough times, and this mellow, "soulful"
and laidback sound is really calming and relaxing to me.  I think favorites
are 18, Signs of Love, and At least we tried, but it may change.
       One thing about what everyone has been saying though... I think
everyone needs to decide for themselves.  I mean I might be being
hypocritical in saying this, and if any of you are offended, I apologize and
didn't mean to offend anyone.  I think it goes without saying that no matter
what any of you think about this album, everyone on the list is going to
listen to it.  But then again, I understand that it's fun to talk about the
album, and it's really exciting with this upcoming album and tour and all.
So I don't know what I'm trying to say... but I hope you all know what i
mean. :-)  Moby has an amazing talent...  We should give the album a little
time before we bash it.....  I hope everyone enjoys something about the new
album.  Peace out everyone.
                                           -Nick

::love is like war: easy to begin but hard to stop.

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       I'm listening to 18 (The Album as we speak)  And I think that the things that everyone was saying all have value.  I personally like this.  Lately I've been goin through some rough times, and this mellow, "soulful" and laidback sound is really calming and relaxing to me.  I think favorites are 18, Signs of Love, and At least we tried, but it may change.<BR>
       One thing about what everyone has been saying though... I think everyone needs to decide for themselves.  I mean I might be being hypocritical in saying this, and if any of you are offended, I apologize and didn't mean to offend anyone.  I think it goes without saying that no matter what any of you think about this album, everyone on the list is going to listen to it.  But then again, I understand that it's fun to talk about the album, and it's really exciting with this upcoming album and tour and all.  So I don't know what I'm trying to say... but I hope you all know what i mean. :-)  Moby has an amazing talent...  We should give the album a little time before we bash it.....  I hope everyone enjoys something about the new album.  Peace out everyone.<BR>
                                           -Nick<BR>
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From: Anthony Stokes <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V4 #699
Date: 11 Apr 2002 17:09:47 -0700



mobility-digest wrote:

>Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 15:43:34 -0500
>From: "Troy N" <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Re: (mobility) String Q Tribute album
>
>Has anyone been able to find audio samples of this string quartet tribute cd
>on the web?  (I couldn't find the link on the vitamin site, either).
>
That's odd.  When I went to their website a couple of weeks ago, Moby
was in the "artists" menu which led to another page that described the
album and featured 3 audio samples.  Now I can't even find him from
searching the site.  That's odd that they'd take down infor on a new
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From: Brad Caviness <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) if you only buy one cd on May 14...
Date: 11 Apr 2002 19:15:03 -0700 (PDT)

buy Weezer's *Maladroit* too.

I downloaded it off the net... Weezer actually posted the
entire thing on their website and sent it to radio stations
on their own dime to force Geffen to put it out. Why Geffen
would be reluctant to release it is anyone's guess. It has
all the comfortable "weezer" elements, but without a hint of
the sense that they are repeating themselves. So fresh.

I'm saving my change so I can buy *18* & *Maladroit* when
they come out.

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From: BRIAN HOVEY <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) similarities
Date: 11 Apr 2002 20:54:10 -0700 (PDT)


What i did was i burned it and then went for a
Looooooooongggg drive giving it some road i guess
cleansed me a bit. going from small jbl speakers to
12" is a huge diff.
Any whoo its great driving music, its all a mesh of
past material, and im so sorry to say this but stars
is his most complex piece of work to date. if you
sample it down and pick it apart its HUGH!! Truely
amazing that will be the only track to make it off of
this album on to radio.
So in the end I really do get my wish.........
Hmmmmmmmmm.......

Bri

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From: "mike e." <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) ftp
Date: 12 Apr 2002 09:44:14 -0700 (PDT)

someone recently sent out a link to a site where you
can set up your own ftp fairly easily....does anyone
have that?

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Subject: (mobility) Stars Mixes
Date: 12 Apr 2002 10:39:48 -0700

I read 18 is coming out in Japan with an extra 3" CD  There'll be a Cornelius=20=
mix of Stars on it


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From: "Bart van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) ftp
Date: 12 Apr 2002 20:08:20 +0200

>someone recently sent out a link to a site where you
>can set up your own ftp fairly easily....does anyone
>have that?

direct download of (an older version) at Download.com:
http://download.com.com/3120-20-0.html?qt=g6+ftp&tg=dl-20&search=+Go%21+

The company's website (newest version):
http://www.bpftpserver.com/   (they changed their name from "Gene6" to
"BulletProof")

With a little knowledge of file sharing and ftp it should be fairly easy to
set up your own server, I have the beta 7 version fom Download.com, it has a
good html help documents that explain almost everything.

This program is for MS Windows only!

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From: "Bart van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Stars Mixes
Date: 12 Apr 2002 20:09:54 +0200

>I read 18 is coming out in Japan with an extra 3" CD  There'll be a
Cornelius mix of Stars on it

*sigh* There goes my money... Being a Moby collector is not easy,
financially speaking :)

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From: "mike e." <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) ftp
Date: 12 Apr 2002 11:00:21 -0700 (PDT)

thanks bart...i found bulletproof, started the whole
damn process, then realized my retarded firewall at
work won't let me set this up, and i am in the middle
of getting a new set up at home :(
oh well...


--- Bart van Eijck <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >someone recently sent out a link to a site where
> you
> >can set up your own ftp fairly easily....does
> anyone
> >have that?
>
> direct download of (an older version) at
> Download.com:
>
http://download.com.com/3120-20-0.html?qt=g6+ftp&tg=dl-20&search=+Go%21+
>
> The company's website (newest version):
> http://www.bpftpserver.com/   (they changed their
> name from "Gene6" to
> "BulletProof")
>
> With a little knowledge of file sharing and ftp it
> should be fairly easy to
> set up your own server, I have the beta 7 version
> fom Download.com, it has a
> good html help documents that explain almost
> everything.
>
> This program is for MS Windows only!
>
> Bart
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From: "mike e." <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Stars Mixes
Date: 12 Apr 2002 11:02:07 -0700 (PDT)

ohhh! cornelius mix!!

=)

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>  There'll be a Cornelius mix of Stars on it
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From: Christopher Michael Bourke <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) ftp progs/cornelius
Date: 12 Apr 2002 13:56:11 -0500 (CDT)


> thanks bart...i found bulletproof, started the whole
> damn process, then realized my retarded firewall at
> work won't let me set this up, and i am in the middle
> of getting a new set up at home :(
> oh well...

You may also want to check out some alternatives, there are a lot of
decent freeware servers available.  Check out download.com and search for
ftp server.

> ..CORNELIUS MIX...

fucking a!  I hope this will be <cheaply> available here in the US, or
else its mp3 d/l time.


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From: Geoffrey Sproule <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Stars Mixes
Date: 12 Apr 2002 18:58:45 +0000

I am trying to upload the downtempo mix and the timo mass dub to the ftp
site ;-) and I will hopefully get the radio mixes f all the dance stuff up
as well


On 12/4/02 6:09 pm, "Bart van Eijck" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>> I read 18 is coming out in Japan with an extra 3" CD  There'll be a
> Cornelius mix of Stars on it
>
> *sigh* There goes my money... Being a Moby collector is not easy,
> financially speaking :)
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Subject: Re: (mobility) similarities
Date: 12 Apr 2002 13:29:42 -0700

At 08:54 PM 4/11/2002 -0700, Brian wrote:

>is his most complex piece of work to date. if you
>sample it down and pick it apart its HUGH!! Truely
>amazing that will be the only track to make it off of
>this album on to radio.

Why do you think that Stars will be the only song to make it on the radio?


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Subject: (mobility) Cornelius?
Date: 12 Apr 2002 13:30:34 -0700

Forgive my ignorance but who the heck is Cornelius?


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From: BRIAN HOVEY <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) similarities
Date: 12 Apr 2002 13:46:21 -0700 (PDT)

Given the fact that ive worked as Promo Director for
Radio 104 in Hartford, CT, this is all that this cd
will give up for todays radio listening aud. Its sad
but its the only thing that has any commercial sound
to it and it will be marketed that way.

On an up note I love just about all of the remixes of
Stars.

Bri
--- Shaun Rader <[e-mail]> wrote:
> At 08:54 PM 4/11/2002 -0700, Brian wrote:
>
>
> Why do you think that Stars will be the only song to
> make it on the radio?
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Subject: Re: (mobility) Cornelius?
Date: 12 Apr 2002 14:05:49 -0700 (PDT)

http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=B44120r1at489

japanese popster/producer guy...kool


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From: chris <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) similarities
Date: 13 Apr 2002 00:31:54 -0400

Heh so what if you are a promo director.
The songs will be sold to be used for commercials and movies or
whatever.
The public will respond to them, then V2 will release them as singles.
Then the radio will play them because they are just as marketable as the
singles on play.
Natural Blues did well, Why does my heart..didn't do too shabby either,
new songs, same formula.
They may be unoriginal, but I think they can be cashed on still.
I don't have much respect for Radio Directors anyways, because they are
so closed off to think that only one song on an album full of potential
singles can be used.  This album is made for radio listening public,
because it sure isn't made for critical music listening.

Chris

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 4:46 PM

Given the fact that ive worked as Promo Director for
Radio 104 in Hartford, CT, this is all that this cd
will give up for todays radio listening aud. Its sad
but its the only thing that has any commercial sound
to it and it will be marketed that way.

On an up note I love just about all of the remixes of
Stars.

Bri
--- Shaun Rader <[e-mail]> wrote:
> At 08:54 PM 4/11/2002 -0700, Brian wrote:
>
>
> Why do you think that Stars will be the only song to
> make it on the radio?
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From: Arcya Self <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) similarities & 9/11
Date: 12 Apr 2002 22:24:17 -0700 (PDT)

--- chris <[e-mail]> wrote:
> Heh so what if you are a promo director.
Sheesh, dude!  I don't think he was saying that to
sound better than anyone else.

> The songs will be sold to be used for commercials
> and movies or whatever. The public will respond to
> them, then V2 will release them as singles.
I agree with that prediction.  Even if I think that
none are all that marketable under regular
circumstances, if these songs are repeated for free
via commercials to the masses, they will sell.  That's
just how it works.

I like how some people are sticking to different
songs.  Example: I'm liking "In my heart" while
someone else really enjoys "Signs of love".
And I can't help but think that a reason for a
mellower album is what happened back in September (&
ever since).  The lyrics to "We Are All Made of Stars"
especially makes me feel like a comfort & healing song
in light of that event.

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Subject: RE: (mobility) similarities
Date: 13 Apr 2002 07:10:03 -0700 (PDT)


--- chris <[e-mail]> wrote:
> Heh so what if you are a promo director.
> The songs will be sold to be used for commercials
> and movies or
> whatever.

yes it may be true there may be use for them in
commercials or in movies, but none too catchy to keep
a lister glued for three min.

> The public will respond to them, then V2 will
> release them as singles.

They may but they will do poorly unless there is
enough stuff for collectors to go out and buy them for
stuff that they couldnt get on the cd

> Then the radio will play them because they are just
> as marketable as the
> singles on play.

No they are NOT, im telling you this album may be a
whole shit load of rehash of his other shit but it has
a much too laid back feel to it, thats why i already
like the remixes better then the album they unlike the
album are ALIVE.

> Natural Blues did well, Why does my heart..didn't do
> too shabby either,
> new songs, same formula.

> They may be unoriginal, but I think they can be
> cashed on still.
> I don't have much respect for Radio Directors
> anyways, because they are
> so closed off to think that only one song on an
> album full of potential
> singles can be used.  This album is made for radio
> listening public,
> because it sure isn't made for critical music
> listening.
>
> Chris
> Im sorry that you have such a bias towards someones
job, and that we have a difference of opion but that
is what makes This List GREAT, its a melting pot of
opions and fact and fun, please dont take my comments
to heart, i dont mean them to be taken that way just
my opion.

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From: BRIAN HOVEY <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) top 40 hair metal bands
Date: 13 Apr 2002 07:14:44 -0700 (PDT)


I was just wondering if anyone got the chance to see
the top 40 hair metal bands countdown last night on
VH1?
It was hosted by Dee Snyder and it had Moby on there
commenting on some bands. Wht struck me most i she
said that he just went out and got Motley Crews first
cd again and fell in Love with it again.

Never took him for a crew fan :)

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From: scott stoddard <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) 18 is good just not really better...
Date: 13 Apr 2002 07:35:41 -0700 (PDT)

As I listen to 18, I really enjoy all of the songs. It
is a solid album, but I think A lot of us are
dissapointed not because it is bad music, but because
it isn't better than play. In my opinion, most of his
other albums have had pretty drastic changes fromt the
one that preceeded, and got better, whereas this one
is very similar in feel to play.

Maybe moby after all these years of searching has
really found a style that he likes. I certainly would
not mind if he sticks with the gospel sample, techno
beats, and moving strings formula.

I think it is beautiful music, just not a big step up
from play. I'll certainly buy the album when it comes
out.

Scott

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Subject: (mobility) d/ling "18" on a mac
Date: 13 Apr 2002 11:21:51 EDT

Hi.  I've been on the list for a long time (three years, maybe four, I don't
know) and have sporadically sent messages from my old e-mail address.  I've
been having some problems downloading "18".  Maybe someone can help (I think
that there may have been a message about how to do what I'm asking a couple
of months ago... can't remember).  Anyway, I can download the songs to open
as a Quicktime file, but I can't get them to save on my comp.  Thus, with a
dial up modem, I have no way of "keeping" the files on my computer (a Mac, so
no right and left clikcing on the mouse, etc.).  I can't select "Save as
Quicktime Movie" because it won't let me select it.  Can someone please help
me?
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From: Paul Simpson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) re: stars being the only 'single'
Date: 13 Apr 2002 08:40:20 -0700 (PDT)

quite interesting... i think theres a little room for
some of the other stuff... altho for a rock station,
especially fucking 104, yeah i see what you mean...

*sigh* 104 was my favorite radio station from 1994-97
or so, when i discovered college radio n stuff. after
that, rap-metal and stuff took over, and i just could
not bear it at all. now, it's the most horribly
ANTI-pc radio station in the world. kids listen to
this shit and think it's ok to call people 'gay' or
'retarded'. it's like a breeding ground for all these
snotty, nasty kids who grow up being misogynist and
crap. i hate it. i'm surprised play did as well as it
did on "modern" "rock" radio.



oh yeah, i've heard abour half of "18" now. i played
some of it on my show the other night. it's not as bad
as i thought it would be, "the great escape"
particularly is a nice new direction, sort of (but,
yeah, come one, couldnt you get hahn rowe or someone,
like to play LIVE strings??!?!? that synth-violin
sound just does not cut it!) but it just sound like
play 2. and the songs that he sings himself are just
crap.


but so far, it seems like a good album... just not a
great one.


maybe i dont buy enough new music, but the only truly
great album i've heard this year is the new Boards Of
Canada. truly a magnificent work of art. i've been
finding that BOC is doing a lot of things for me,
musically, that Moby hasn't in a few years.


but, these are all just my opinions.

later.
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From: John Turpin <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) d/ling "18" on a mac
Date: 13 Apr 2002 10:49:17 -0500

At 11:21 AM -0400 4/13/02, [e-mail] wrote:

>Hi.  I've been on the list for a long time (three years, maybe four, I don't
>know) and have sporadically sent messages from my old e-mail address.  I've
>been having some problems downloading "18".  Maybe someone can help (I think
>that there may have been a message about how to do what I'm asking a couple
>of months ago... can't remember).  Anyway, I can download the songs to open
>as a Quicktime file, but I can't get them to save on my comp.  Thus, with a
>dial up modem, I have no way of "keeping" the files on my computer (a Mac, so
>no right and left clikcing on the mouse, etc.).  I can't select "Save as
>Quicktime Movie" because it won't let me select it.  Can someone please help
>me?

Instead of right-clicking in your browser, you click-and-hold. Select
"save file as..." or "save target as..." or whatever.

BTW, iTunes <http://www.apple.com/itunes/> is a much better mp3
player than QuickTime.

It's easier to do FTP if you have an FTP program like NetFinder
<http://members.ozemail.com.au/~pli/netfinder/> or Fetch
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From: BRIAN HOVEY <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) re: stars being the only 'single'
Date: 13 Apr 2002 09:46:29 -0700 (PDT)

Everything that you have written here is TRUE!!

Bri

--- Paul Simpson <[e-mail]> wrote:
> quite interesting... i think theres a little room
> for
> some of the other stuff... altho for a rock station,
> especially fucking 104, yeah i see what you mean...
>
> *sigh* 104 was my favorite radio station from
> 1994-97
> or so, when i discovered college radio n stuff.
> after
> that, rap-metal and stuff took over, and i just
> could
> not bear it at all. now, it's the most horribly
> ANTI-pc radio station in the world. kids listen to
> this shit and think it's ok to call people 'gay' or
> 'retarded'. it's like a breeding ground for all
> these
> snotty, nasty kids who grow up being misogynist and
> crap. i hate it. i'm surprised play did as well as
> it
> did on "modern" "rock" radio.


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From: "Elie Franca" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) 18 is good just not really better...
Date: 13 Apr 2002 14:23:35 -0400

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<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>>As I listen to 18, I really enjoy all of the songs. It
<DIV></DIV>>is a solid album, but I think A lot of us are
<DIV></DIV>>dissapointed not because it is bad music, but because
<DIV></DIV>>it isn't better than play. In my opinion, most of his
<DIV></DIV>>other albums have had pretty drastic changes fromt the
<DIV></DIV>>one that preceeded, and got better, whereas this one
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<DIV></DIV>>Maybe moby after all these years of searching has
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<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>I think it is beautiful music, just not a big step up
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<DIV></DIV>>Scott
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From: "Shaun Rader" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) 18 is good just not really better...
Date: 13 Apr 2002 15:25:17 -0700

Scott Stoddard wrote:

> Maybe moby after all these years of searching has
> really found a style that he likes. I certainly would
> not mind if he sticks with the gospel sample, techno
> beats, and moving strings formula.

I agree I don't see anything wrong with the new album (still only listened
through track 12 though).  I like it a lot In This World has grown on me a
lot recently.

> check this out:
> http://www.spiritonin.com/stuff/capoeiragame.html


Hey man that's true talent.  Very cool stuff!!


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Subject: Re: (mobility) d/ling "18" on a mac and comments on "18"
Date: 13 Apr 2002 20:28:23 EDT

Thank you so much.  I completely forgot that I already have NetFinder, now
I'm using it and am currently downloading "Fireworks".  "18" sounds a lot
like "Play" to me, the same feelings in a lot of places, as everyone has been
saying ("In My Heart", for example).  I like "The Great Escape"... it is
different from everything else that I have listened to on the album so far...
very soothing and contagious.  It does have that Moby quality of getting
stuck in my head so that I feel the spotaneous need to listen to it often.

Overall, it's pretty good though not what I had expected.  Moby kept saying
it was more romantic, etc. and I don't get that feeling really from the sound
of the album.  Maybe the rest of the songs will convince me that this is
worth the three years since "Play" was released.

Girl

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Subject: RE: (mobility) 18 is good just not really better...
Date: 14 Apr 2002 00:32:43 -0400

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From:  [e-mail] (Sandra Casadei, FCL)
Subject: Re: (mobility) Stars Mixes
Date: 15 Apr 2002 09:13:46 +0200

>ohhh! cornelius mix!!
>
>=)



arf arf

someone HAS to get his nails on it and ftp it, PLEASE!

:))

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From: "Blanco, Ruben A." <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) PreOrdering Moby's 18
Date: 15 Apr 2002 14:50:47 -0600

Anybody pre-ordering Moby's new 18?

I just ran across these links:

http://www.bestbuy.com/MandM/ProductInfo.asp?ST=11121309&m=254
You can pre-order Moby 18 from bestbuy.com for $13.99

Also you can pre-order Moby 18 from Amazon.com for only $12.99
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000668IF/qid=1018903415/sr=1-3/ref=
sr_1_3/103-5965595-3911817

CDNow is the most expensive at $15.49 Buy.com didn't have a listing for this
release yet. (I do not work for any of the mentioned websites.)

I think I pre-ordered Moby's PLAY for about $19.99 or more (I can't
remember the amount right now.) What do you guys think about this?
I think that this is the cheapest price I will have paid for a new
MOBY release. I don't know if that is good or bad (good for the fans.)

Lates all,
Ruben


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Subject: Re: (mobility) PreOrdering Moby's 18 - support your local independent store
Date: 15 Apr 2002 14:11:07 -0700 (PDT)

--- "Blanco, Ruben A." <[e-mail]> wrote:
> Anybody pre-ordering Moby's new 18?

no.  i will wait until it comes out at one of the
many independent record stores in either los
angeles or denver, and then purchase from there
instead of giving my money to some corporation to
save myself a few dollars.  besides, it's usually
cheaper there anyway.

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From: "Blanco, Ruben A." <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Shocked about low Moby 18 price.
Date: 15 Apr 2002 15:15:20 -0600

This will be my last post for now (unless somebody asks me something
directly.)

This weekend's Advertisement for circuitcity. They list some recent releases
for CDs $11.99 then mention "Free Shipping on all CDs @ circuitcity.com
(offer applies to standard USPS ground shipping.)"

So you could wait for play to be released in May and maybe pay a walk in
price of maybe $11.99 (+ sales tax) for Moby's play 18 (?),
or pre-order it on their website for CD $13.99 with FREE SHIPPING?
Is this correct? Anybody work at circuitcity reading this? Can you please
veryify for the rest of us Moby nuts. :) (or you could just direct e-mail
one nut, me, with the info.)

The new music is great! Thanks for the MP3s all, AND I AM Running out to BUY
the new release. :) I am still shocked about the price, I cringed at the
price that I paid to pre-order PLAY.

Ruben

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From: Mike A <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) PreOrdering Moby's 18 - support your local independent store
Date: 15 Apr 2002 18:13:45 -0400

dj pagan wrote:
> no.  i will wait until it comes out at one of the
> many independent record stores in either los
> angeles or denver, and then purchase from there
> instead of giving my money to some corporation to
> save myself a few dollars.  besides, it's usually
> cheaper there anyway.

Amen!!! Record Time in Detroit baby!!!!! Indie stores are the best.

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Subject: Re: (mobility) PreOrdering Moby's 18
Date: 15 Apr 2002 15:46:43 -0700

Blanco, Ruben A.wrote:

> Also you can pre-order Moby 18 from Amazon.com for only $12.99

I noticed it was $12.99 at amazon about a week ago but just recently it was
$13.99 (I just checked this morning again mainly to see how well it's
selling).  Now it's $12.99 again.  Crazy.  It's #9 in sales right now BTW!
Pretty darn good considering it's not out for a month.

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Subject: (mobility) Re: PreOrdering Moby's 18 - support your local independent store
Date: 15 Apr 2002 15:51:41 -0700

Whorehouse, I mean Wherehouse, was offering a set of 18 Moby cards if you=20=
preordered from them

Didn't do it, I hate them


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Subject: (mobility) oh my baby!!
Date: 15 Apr 2002 23:58:48 -0400

<html><div style='background-color:'><DIV>i don't know people..</DIV>
<DIV>this cd has taken me on such a journey..i do not even know where i began and where i ended...all i know is that the more i listen to it, the more i fal in love with it and the more i thank God for bringing such a talented musician like Moby to this world...</DIV>
<DIV>i mean, not to toot anyone's horn here, but DAMM!!!</DIV>
<DIV>i cannot wait to see the man live and to be able to dance and dance and dance..</DIV>
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<DIV>yeah, sure, there are similarities to Play, but so what??? Moby made Play and loved it and wanted everyone to love it as well..i'm sure he had the same intentions for this one and if it is like a Play 2, so be it dammit...WHEN DOES HE COME OUT WITH ANOTHER ALBUM!!  LOVE..ELIE </DIV>
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From:  [e-mail] (Sandra Casadei, FCL)
Subject: Re: (mobility) PreOrdering Moby's 18 - support your local independent store
Date: 16 Apr 2002 09:31:43 +0200

dj pagan wrote:
> no.  i will wait until it comes out at one of the
> many independent record stores in either los
> angeles or denver, and then purchase from there
> instead of giving my money to some corporation to
> save myself a few dollars.  besides, it's usually
> cheaper there anyway.


holy words!
ah, those days spent in la at rhino and penny lane...
and yes, mike, indie stores rock

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From: "Barry O' Halloran" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) 18: track by track preview
Date: 16 Apr 2002 12:10:45 +0100

Exclusive preview of a musical monster: Moby's new album revealed!
How do you follow the biggest-selling dance album of all time? Like this...

In a year that promises big albums from many big dance music names, Moby's
follow-up to 'Play' is, by a long way, the most eagerly awaited album of
2002.
Called '18' - ostensibly due to the number of tracks on the record, although
Moby has hinted that here are also other reasons - the album has the
unenviable task of following in the footsteps of its zeitgeist-capturing, 10
million selling predecessor. Famously, every track from play was licensed
for use on a film and/or commercial.
'18' employs the full range of Moby's styles. Occasionally, the Deep South
blues samples that characterised 'Play' reappear, as well as the
electro-gothic sound of 'Porcelain' and the housier flavour of the music
that originally made his name.
But the most notable and contentious aspect of the album is a seam of
material referring to the events of September 11th last year - a date which
also happens t be Moby's birthday.
Much of the album was completed before September 11th and Mute claim that
some apparent references to the New York attacks are nothing more than
spooky foresight, but others clearly refer to the terrorist attack and must
have been completed afterwards.
Moby wrote, produced and played all the instruments on the album, which he
completed in his home studio in New York. There are a number of guest
vocalists, including Sinead O' Connor, MC Lyte, Angie Stone and Azure Ray, a
duo from Athens, Georgia.
Mute are quietly confident about '18' and they've been raising Moby's
profile again by having him perform the title track from the album as the
Olympic flame was extinguished at this year's Salt Lake City Winter
Olympics.
'18' will be released in May and the order of the tracks previewed here may
change by the time of release. The album will be preceded by the single 'We
Are Made Of Stars', sometime in late April. Muzik has heard the radio edit
of the track, and we don't like it as much as the album version, but hey,
we'll get over it.

1. WE ARE MADE OF STARS
An electro-pop song featuring the line "No one can stop us now/Cos we  are
all made of stars", which may be a post-9/11 reference to the   American
flag.

2. IN THIS WORLD
Very 'Play'. A treated blues/soul vocal swings over a breakbeat with the
refrain, "Lordy, don't leave me all by myself". Very catchy, and a possible
future single.

3. IN MY HEART
A muffled vocal again appeals to the Almighty, carried on a forlorn string
sweep and cascading piano reminiscent of Sabres Of Paradise's 'Smokebelch'.

4. GREAT ESCAPE
A cello and violin provide melancholy accompaniment to Azure Ray's vocals.
It's in stark contrast to the previous two numbers, and sounds not
dissimilar to U2's 'Cruel'.

5. SIGNS OF LOVE
Lush orchestration and a low, talkative voice (Moby's?) are joined halfway
through by fuzz guitar, leading the song to a conclusion that's reminiscent
of Spiritualised.

6. ONE OF THESE MORNINGS
The rainy day soul tones of a female vocal are backed by a banquet of warm
'Twin Peaks'-style keyboard, Hammond and strings. Another possible single.

7. ANOTHER WOMAN
Intriguing. Backward percussion gives way to vocals, voodoo bongos and a
slouching 4/4 beat. We look forward to the deep house remixes.

8. FIREWORKS
A spacey piano doodle which works more as a pause between tracks than a
standalone song.

9. EXTREME WAYS
An ode to those lost late night moments. Screechy 'Psycho' strings and
emotive orchestration compete for your attention, with Moby's drawled vocals
over the top.

10. JAM FOR THE LADIES
A bass-heavy breaker replete with Angie Stone's vocals and some tasty
rapping from MC Lyte. Vocal hook: "It's a jam for the ladies and a
superstar".

11. THE DAY BEFORE MY BIRTHDAY
"Sunday was a bright day yesterday/Dark cloud is come into the way". Moby's
birthday is on September 11th. Builds to a piano and vocal crescendo.

12. 18
Performed at the close of February's Winter Olympics, this is a grandiose,
cinematic number with a mild classical bent and keyboard sounds that fall
like raindrops.

13. SLEEP ALONE
A eulogy for the lost and the loneliness of those left behind after the Twin
Towers attack. Closes on the chilling line "At least we were together
holding hands/Flying through the air".

14. AT LEAST WE TRIED
A tender love song played out over a clicky Eighties-style drum track and
smoochy organ, until Gary Numan-style synths cut in with a haunting melody.

15. HARBOUR
Sinead O' Conor sings on this low-key number, while synths create a heavy
atmosphere in the background.

16. LOOK BACK IN
An epic, sweeping string-led number in the generic Moby style. It's another
of his cinematic bridges that conjures up visions of slow-motion imagery.

17. THE RAFTERS
A track that revolves around some simple blues humming, recalling the 'Play'
sound. There's also a bit of old skool rave piano thrown in, a nod to Moby's
more distant past.

18. I'M NOT WORRIED AT ALL
A peaceable, life-affirming closer that features a croaky old bluesman
repeating the title phrase, backed by lilting, waltz-time rhythms.

(I robbed this from an article in MUZIK Magazine NO. 83 APRIL 2002 It is a
great magazine (a bit expensive) It also has interviews with the Chemical
Brothers, Danny Tenaglia, Timo Maas, New Order, and Busta Rhymes. One of the
questions in a interview with DJ Tiesto is "What's on your home stereo?" His
answer: "The new single from Moby, which I'm remixing. And I've just bought
the new album from Muse." It comes with a free Groove Armada CD.

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From: Christine <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) 18: track by track preview
Date: 16 Apr 2002 09:00:31 -0400

I missed the beginning of the Winter Olympics closing ceremony... I only
heard In This World. Was 18 performed first?
Just curious... Christine

>
> 2. IN THIS WORLD
> Very 'Play'. A treated blues/soul vocal swings over a breakbeat with the
> refrain, "Lordy, don't leave me all by myself". Very catchy, and a possible
> future single.
>
> 12. 18
> Performed at the close of February's Winter Olympics, this is a grandiose,
> cinematic number with a mild classical bent and keyboard sounds that fall
> like raindrops.


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From: blue armadillo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) PreOrdering Moby's 18
Date: 16 Apr 2002 07:02:13 -0700 (PDT)

how can you preorder it when amazon is telling its
customers who already preordered that the cd release
has been cancelled?


--- Shaun Rader <[e-mail]> wrote:
> Blanco, Ruben A.wrote:
>
> > Also you can pre-order Moby 18 from Amazon.com for
> only $12.99
>
> I noticed it was $12.99 at amazon about a week ago
> but just recently it was
> $13.99 (I just checked this morning again mainly to
> see how well it's
> selling).  Now it's $12.99 again.  Crazy.  It's #9
> in sales right now BTW!
> Pretty darn good considering it's not out for a
> month.
>
> Shaun
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Subject: Re: (mobility) PreOrdering Moby's 18 - support your local independent store
Date: 16 Apr 2002 09:57:57 -0700 (PDT)

--- "Sandra Casadei, FCL" <[e-mail]> wrote:
> holy words!
> ah, those days spent in la at rhino and penny
> lane... and yes, mike, indie stores rock

they just opened an amoeba in hollywood on sunset
and cahuenga.  half a city block - all
independent.  love it!

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Subject: Re: (mobility) support your local independent store
Date: 16 Apr 2002 10:09:59 -0700

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<DIV></DIV>> > lane... and yes, mike, indie stores rock
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>they just opened an amoeba in hollywood on sunset
<DIV></DIV>>and cahuenga. half a city block - all
<DIV></DIV>>independent. love it!
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Subject: Re: (mobility) support your local independent store
Date: 16 Apr 2002 15:24:26 -0400

Here in metro Detroit there's lots of indie stores to
 choose from.

Record Time is my favorite though, I can't even begin to
 tell you how much promo vinyl, CD's, regular CD's, vunyl
 etc. I've bought from there over the years. Plus they
 specialize in electronic music so it's vinyl heaven.
Always worth a trip a week to see what used or promo vinyl
 they've gotten in, how many boring chain stores can you
 say that about?

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From: "Shaun Rader" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) 18: track by track preview
Date: 16 Apr 2002 09:39:18 -0700

Christine wrote:

> I missed the beginning of the Winter Olympics closing ceremony... I only
> heard In This World. Was 18 performed first?
> Just curious... Christine

I heard a slow quiet piece as they were going to commercial I believe.. I
can check the tape but I do remember hearing it.  I read somewhere that he
played 5 tracks off of 18 although I only heard In My Heart and (maybe) 18
for sure...

Is Sunday (The Day Before My Birthday) really about Sept 11?  Sept 11 was a
Tuesday was it not?


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Subject: Re: (mobility) 18: track by track preview
Date: 16 Apr 2002 17:54:56 EDT


In a message dated 4/16/02 5:29:36 PM, [e-mail] writes:

<< Is Sunday (The Day Before My Birthday) really about Sept 11?  Sept 11 was a

Tuesday was it not? >>

In the New York Times Magazine article from a few weeks ago, it ways that
"Sunday(...)" is an allusion to September 11th, a Tuesday.  I think, maybe
Sunday is the name of it for some other reason, perhaps, and the day before
my birthday is the calm before the storm or something.  (It made sense in my
mind.)

Also, "Sleep Alone" isn't about September 11th.  Moby described it as being
about a teenage girl who comes home from school in the afternoon to do her
homework, or at least that she is kind of the song's "speaker".  Some of the
lyrics allude to Sept 11th, but it was written way before then.  Actually, he
said that he revised the song after Sept 11th so that it wouldn't appear to
be about Sept 11th (I guess this means that he made it less macabre,
lugubrious that it originally was).

Girl

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From: Christopher Michael Bourke <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) SUNDAY about 9-11
Date: 16 Apr 2002 17:05:16 -0500 (CDT)


> << Is Sunday (The Day Before My Birthday) really about Sept 11?  Sept 11 was a
>
> Tuesday was it not? >>
>
> In the New York Times Magazine article from a few weeks ago, it ways that
> "Sunday(...)" is an allusion to September 11th, a Tuesday.  I think, maybe

I would have to listen to the original unreleased version (which I had
over 2 years ago) but I honestly don't think that it has anything to do
with 9-11; the lyrics weren't changed over the original, were they?  The
demo version far predates 9-11, and unless Moby says otherwise, I would
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From: Rob <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) 18: track by track preview
Date: 17 Apr 2002 00:06:30 +0200

Moby at the Olympics: first an eight-minute piece combining "18" and "We are
all made of stars", and then later on "In my heart" together with Angie Stone
... I've read somewhere that he also performed "Bodyrock" later on, but the
broadcast was cut off here in Holland AND in the UK (BBC) ...
See this link for more insights by Moby himself:
<http://www.moby.com/cms/viewdiary.asp?Diary_ID=623&ViewType=Current>

And yes, you're right about the day before his birthday, but as someone stated
before: it's an older 'thing' re-done for the new album ... you can draw your
own conclusions if and why and when ... (when WAS the last time September 10th
was a Sunday??)

Rob

PS I still have the BBC coverage taped digitally, still trying to convert it
(momentarily lacking harddisk space) ... maybe later ...

Shaun Rader wrote:

> Christine wrote:
>
> > I missed the beginning of the Winter Olympics closing ceremony... I only
> heard In This World. Was 18 performed first?
> > Just curious... Christine
>
> I heard a slow quiet piece as they were going to commercial I believe.. I can
> check the tape but I do remember hearing it.  I read somewhere that he played
> 5 tracks off of 18 although I only heard In My Heart and (maybe) 18 for
> sure...
>
> Is Sunday (The Day Before My Birthday) really about Sept 11?  Sept 11 was a
> Tuesday was it not?


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From: Christine <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) 18: Moby in the Olympics and MTV
Date: 16 Apr 2002 18:09:58 -0400

Interesting - I think it's a pity we didn't get to hear more of his music
but I guess we should be happy they aired him on tv... well, sorta
anyways. :\

On a brighter note... I saw moby on MTV this morning (the stars
video that is). Granted it was 8am
it's still nice! And it was crazy to see music video's on MTV period! Too
bad they only play them in the middle of the night til 9 or 10 am when
they switch to the real world.. Bleh

Christine

 On Tue, 16 Apr 2002, Shaun Rader
wrote:

> Christine wrote:
>
> > I missed the beginning of the Winter Olympics closing ceremony... I only
> > heard In This World. Was 18 performed first?
> > Just curious... Christine
>
> I heard a slow quiet piece as they were going to commercial I believe.. I
> can check the tape but I do remember hearing it.  I read somewhere that he
> played 5 tracks off of 18 although I only heard In My Heart and (maybe) 18
> for sure...
>
> Is Sunday (The Day Before My Birthday) really about Sept 11?  Sept 11 was a
> Tuesday was it not?
>
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Subject: Re: (mobility) 18: Moby in the Olympics and MTV
Date: 16 Apr 2002 15:18:57 -0700 (PDT)


  Well I think it's even more interesting that
Christine never sent anything, ever.  :(

EricTheRed


--- Christine <[e-mail]> wrote:
> Interesting - I think it's a pity we didn't get to
> hear more of his music
> but I guess we should be happy they aired him on
> tv... well, sorta
> anyways. :\
>
> On a brighter note... I saw moby on MTV this morning
> (the stars
> video that is). Granted it was 8am
> it's still nice! And it was crazy to see music
> video's on MTV period! Too
> bad they only play them in the middle of the night
> til 9 or 10 am when
> they switch to the real world.. Bleh
>
> Christine
>
>  On Tue, 16 Apr 2002, Shaun Rader
> wrote:
>
> > Christine wrote:
> >
> > > I missed the beginning of the Winter Olympics
> closing ceremony... I only
> > > heard In This World. Was 18 performed first?
> > > Just curious... Christine
> >
> > I heard a slow quiet piece as they were going to
> commercial I believe.. I
> > can check the tape but I do remember hearing it.
> I read somewhere that he
> > played 5 tracks off of 18 although I only heard In
> My Heart and (maybe) 18
> > for sure...
> >
> > Is Sunday (The Day Before My Birthday) really
> about Sept 11?  Sept 11 was a
> > Tuesday was it not?
> >
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Yes RECORD TIME in Roseville ROCKS!!!  I also love how they have the "test"
turntables attached to the speakers so you can watch people's reactions while
they are shopping for records.  I have found brilliant imports that I would
have paid so much for on ebay there.  It's better than gramophone in Chicago
because there's so much more of a variety there and more space.  The smaller
one is cool too but it's harder to find stuff there although sometimes I'll
find some cool things there.  The last time I went there was for RHawtin's
DE9 Cd  release party and that was very very nice :)  Bla bla bla....  If you
 go to Desirable Discs in Dearborn you will find a huge basement FULL of old
records that they are selling for 5 dollars for a bagful.  It's
unfiltered...you can find ANYTHING that dates early.

18s music is very wonderful tap into emotion music and this summer weather
makes the whole experience so SUBLIME.

And for the math people out there.....who on earth said that Linear Algebra
was easy.  I find it disconcerting, not the least bit gratifying and
extremely time consuming.

Have a wonderful day!
Sharmila

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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  SIZE=1 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Yes RECORD TIME in Roseville ROCKS!!!  I also love how they have the "test" turntables attached to the speakers so you can watch people's reactions while they are shopping for records.  I have found brilliant imports that I would have paid so much for on ebay there.  It's better than gramophone in Chicago because there's so much more of a variety there and more space.  The smaller one is cool too but it's harder to find stuff there although sometimes I'll find some cool things there.  The last time I went there was for RHawtin's DE9 Cd  release party and that was very very nice :)  Bla bla bla....  If you  go to Desirable Discs in Dearborn you will find a huge basement FULL of old records that they are selling for 5 dollars for a bagful.  It's unfiltered...you can find ANYTHING that dates early.<BR>
<BR>
18s music is very wonderful tap into emotion music and this summer weather makes the whole experience so SUBLIME.  <BR>
<BR>
And for the math people out there.....who on earth said that Linear Algebra was easy.  I find it disconcerting, not the least bit gratifying and extremely time consuming.<BR>
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From: Hi I'm Eric! <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) support your local independent store
Date: 16 Apr 2002 15:49:50 -0700 (PDT)


    Well here in Central Jersey my favorite indie
stores to shop at are "Vintage Vinyl" and "The
Princeton Record Exchange".  They are just amazing
places and a few friends and I had always gone to VV
every Tuesday to hang out and look through all the
CD's in the place.  :)

EricTheRed


> Here in metro Detroit there's lots of indie stores
> to choose from.


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From: Hi I'm Eric! <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) I haven't listened to 18 and here's why
Date: 16 Apr 2002 16:26:22 -0700 (PDT)


   Mostly everyone on the list keeps repeating over
and over why they dislike the CD and/or why they love
it.  I view his release of "18" as Christmas Day (Even
though I am agnostic, Christmas is still in my blood)
and I don't want to ruin the suprise in anyway shape
or form.  Reading through all of this <Mobility> mail
has been hurting that whole feel of surprise, but I
guess that's ok.  lol  I loooooove the crispness of
the money trembling with my wrist, the feel of the
coolness of the CD as it rests in my hand, the first
time I pop it into my CD player, and the gleeful smile
that creeps across my face as I listen to Moby's
newest opus.  :)  I can't just download it all and
hear it BEFORE I should.  That'd be cheating.  I
haven't downloaded ANYTHING except for "We are all
made of stars" but that was after I heard it on the
radio.  That's all I want to hear for now, and I will
wait for "18" to reach my nearest indie music store.

EricTheRed

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Subject: Re: (mobility) I haven't listened to 18 and here's why
Date: 17 Apr 2002 00:36:50 EDT


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In a message dated 4/16/2002 7:27:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:


> I can't just download it all and
> hear it BEFORE I should.  That'd be cheating.

I understand what you mean about wanting to listen to the actual CD.  I don't
really like mp3s a whole lot anymore and I listen to CDs mostly but I think
it was totally worth it downloading and listening to it now.  This album
brings a lot of elements from a lot of his older tracks that gives it a
nostalgic quality.  I'm listening to "Extreme Ways" right now and I love the
music in the background which has strains of older beats and at the same time
the words have the feel of the Animal Rights tracks.

Sharmila

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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  SIZE=1 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 4/16/2002 7:27:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [e-mail] writes:<BR>
<BR>
</FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I can't just download it all and<BR>
hear it BEFORE I should.  That'd be cheating.</BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
</FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=1 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
I understand what you mean about wanting to listen to the actual CD.  I don't really like mp3s a whole lot anymore and I listen to CDs mostly but I think it was totally worth it downloading and listening to it now.  This album brings a lot of elements from a lot of his older tracks that gives it a nostalgic quality.  I'm listening to "Extreme Ways" right now and I love the music in the background which has strains of older beats and at the same time the words have the feel of the Animal Rights tracks. <BR>
<BR>
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Subject: Re: (mobility) support your local independent store
Date: 17 Apr 2002 01:09:59 -0400

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From:  [e-mail] (Sandra Casadei, FCL)
Subject: Re: (mobility) PreOrdering Moby's 18 - support your local independent store
Date: 17 Apr 2002 09:48:38 +0200

> they just opened an amoeba in hollywood on sunset
>and cahuenga.  half a city block - all
>independent.  love it!
>
>/djp


thanx, i'll go check it as soon as i have enuff money to get back to lala land and roll in a sea of used cds... yum!
there's another good one in the valley, studio city to be precise, on ventura blvd.
can't remember the name of the store though, i'll see if i have some flyers home and i'll let all of you know.

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From: "Shaun Rader" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Amazon stream & 18 art cards
Date: 17 Apr 2002 12:40:31 -0700

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000668IF/103-4755818-6771029

Amazon seems to have the cards someone mentioned by pre-ordering at
Wherehouse..

But the interesting thing they seem to offer is a full stream of the cd
immediately after you buy the album.  Has anyone tried this?

I wonder what would happen if someone listened to the album a few times via
this stream, didn't like it.. and decided to cancel the cd order before the
release.  Have they ever offered the full cd stream a month before the
release date if you pre-order?


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From: "Cale Smith" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) NEW FTP SITE
Date: 17 Apr 2002 19:20:58 -0600




I just started a new FTP site i dont have anything on it if you wanna upload
some music or video's feel free and dont worry i have plenty of space

the address is ftp://moby:moby@24.116.141.173/

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Subject: Re: (mobility) support your local independent store
Date: 18 Apr 2002 15:15:45 -0700 (PDT)


   I left for a little bit because my email address
was cancelled at Excite.com and I had to get it on my
MAIN account so now I am back.  I tried saying hi to
you a bunch of times but you never responded.  So how
have you been?  Are you still in the area?

EricTheRed

 WELCOME BACK BRO...DID YOU EVER EVEN LEAVE OR AM I
JUST CRAZY.

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From: "Elie Franca" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) support your local independent store
Date: 18 Apr 2002 20:29:04 -0400

<html><div style='background-color:'><DIV>well..i moved back up to northern jersey with the rents for this year..</DIV>
<DIV>but i still go to the school of Rutgahs!</DIV>
<DIV>cannot wait to be out of there this may..</DIV>
<DIV>but i am still around...peace..elie</DIV>
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From: Arnar Oskarsson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) 18 - excellent album
Date: 18 Apr 2002 22:07:49 -0700 (PDT)

Moby, thank you so much for an excellent album! This
is one I'm not going to buy a copy of - but two!

Listening to it for the last few day, my feeling is
that this is an ever stronger album than Play... and
Play, is of course, something difficult to measure up
to...

MOBY! Thank you for the music!

- fan in Iceland

...btw... when u coming over to play for us penguins?

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From: "Matthieu" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) 18 without synths ?????????
Date: 19 Apr 2002 12:23:34 +0200

Hi all,
Thanks to Bart and the one who put the album on his ftp, i got the
opportunity to listen to 18 a month before its release (nice to be part of a
kind of elite that get the cds before they are actually released :) ). I
wanted to know if it was just me or if it is a real problem, it's about the
presence, and opportunity of those synths layers and nearly all tracks ! Do
they (the tracks) really need them ? Really i don't think so. Just imagine
The Rafters or I'm not worried at all or At Least We Tried or One of Thes
Mornings.... actually the list is quite long :( Each time i'm very impressed
by the beginning of each track, the voices, usually are extraordinary, the
melody is a bit more uptempo than on Play and that's not bad and then you
have the layers after 1mn -1mn30 and really the song is fucked up. Only
Another Woman didn't get "the treatment" and seriously it doesn't miss it.
Because IMHO 18 would have been better if Moby had left them aside and had
given a more "accoustic" feel on the tracks, i was a bit disappointed by his
effort. I mean, these layers make the unity of the album, it would seem much
more diverse without them because if you don't really tak care of all the
arrangements, this album is just a collection of downtempo tracks with synth
layers. Come Moby, leave them aside, come closer to Animal Rights keeping
the Play vibe. Let's be acoustic !!

cheers,
matthieu

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From: "Shaun Rader" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Extras Needed?
Date: 19 Apr 2002 15:31:49 -0700

Hey all in the LA/Southern California area... check out www.moby.com and
click on News.  They want extras for the next music video for 18 (it's about
the 3rd or 4th news update from the top) tomorrow Sat, April 20!

How cool is that?  Anyone go to one of these are they usually fun?


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Date: 21 Apr 2002 17:15:07 -0700 (PDT)

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 Eric-
I feel the same way about downloading the cd before it's released.  I'm just hanging on until it's "officially" released.  I want to be at the store a half hour before it opens, bugging the people who work there to let me in to get my moby fix... I can't wait.
loving the suspense,
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From: "Shaun Rader" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Extreme Ways video taping
Date: 21 Apr 2002 17:41:35 -0700

Hey I went to the video taping for Extreme Ways last night in Victorville CA
it was pretty fun.  I left at about 12:30am but I guess the filming went on
til 6am!!  According to one of the Foby's (I guess it stands for fake Moby
but that's what they were calling 5 bald head Moby look-alikes who seemed to
be in the video-) they started shooting Friday at 9am.  So I guess they had
to finish in 2 days or so.

It was pretty fun but the majority of the 'extras' were professional extras
so to speak and could care less about being in a Moby video.  I met about 5
or 6 Moby fans and it was real fun.  There was a lot of sitting around (from
1:30 pm til about 8 pm everyone did nothing) and they film maybe 10 minutes
every hour after they get started.  It was a unique experience and I got to
meet Moby.  Didn't say much to him just wished him luck on his new cd.  I
never know what to say when I meet the guy who I've been a major fan of
since 93...

Shaun


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Subject: Re: (mobility) waiting to exhale (in a manner of speaking...)
Date: 22 Apr 2002 14:23:56 -0700 (PDT)


   Well at least SOME people feel the same way about
it as I do.  I was starting to think that I was one in
a million.  :)

EricTheRed

>  Eric-
> I feel the same way about downloading the cd before
> it's released.

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Subject: (mobility) Admin Message: Pending mailing list change.
Date: 23 Apr 2002 05:26:12 -0600

Hello everyone,

It's been a long... long time since I've written.  As always, I apologize.
I am writing to inform you that this mailing list will be making a change in
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In general, Mailman will make this mailing list easier for me to operate and
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This change will take place before the end of the week.  I have decided to move
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very cool thing i just found out about...moby's label is putting
together a contest to design a t-shirt in support of the new
release...i just got the link.  anyone who's into graphic design
should enter...winner gets 500 bucks AND tickets to a show!  not to
mention the fact that your design will be all over the place to
support the album release!  here's a link:

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From: "Bart van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Extreme Ways video taping
Date: 23 Apr 2002 21:07:18 +0200

>Hey I went to the video taping for Extreme Ways last night in Victorville
CA
>it was pretty fun.

So Extreme ways is a next single candidate??? So there IS a god! :) Extreme
Ways is by far my most favorite tune from 18 (Oh wait, I already told that
like a 100 times :)

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